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heyemsta
I've been searching and searching on information of spirits taking material objects from houses/people/etc., but couldn't find any. Maybe someone here has some insight to offer? Here's the story:

This morning my parents woke up to our burglar alarm system going off. (I never woke up. I was in some kind of... coma.) The alarm does sometimes go off spontaneously, being an old, generic alarm system from a Radio Shack. They searched the house, but nothing was out of order, so they went back to bed. A few hours later, I woke up and got ready for work. Upon getting ready to leave, I couldn't find my purse. I never lose my purse in the mornings, because I NEVER go to sleep without it directly near my bed. (It provokes anxiety if it isn't near my head, on the floor. Not sure why.) My mother and I tore up the house for 30 minutes searching for it, when she finally drove me to work.

My mother came back home, tore up the house for another 5 hours, until she finally believed me that it was stolen. However, there were NO signs of forced entry. No signs of ANY entry. I don't want to type out all the details of how I know for sure that I had my purse near my bed, but I did. It was right next to my bed when I went to sleep. I didn't lose it. It just vanished.

I lost my iPod, my brand new digital camera (which I NEVER keep in my bag. Something just prompted me to put it in there for some reason.), and all my identification and money in my wallet. And my mom's camera, like, a 5 dollar camera, is missing.

How can someone come INTO my room, the hardest room to get to on the second floor, and grab my purse with my keys jingling on the side, without me waking up? Walking past my parents' room without my mother waking up? With my cat sitting still on the stairs when the alarm went off, and when my parents woke up again in the morning? (She's terrified of any person not me.)

My great uncle was a big prankster, to the point of sometimes taking pranks to a new level, where only HE thought it was funny, and he died in August last year. My mom thinks he's always trying to contact us. The more I think about this, the more I believe it wasn't the effort of somebody. For some reason I didn't plug my iPod into my computer last night, but I left it in my bag. And then there was the urge to put my camera in my bag. And my cat was calm. None of my credit cards were used. The house was in perfect condition. Even the police were perplexed.

Lastly, the strangest thing I noticed missing, was an object of my uncle's that was in my "special" box -- it's suddenly gone, and I've never moved it.

Do/can spirits take material things? Could it have been my uncle playing a rude joke on me? Or am I just being silly, and it's obviously a theft from a living, breathing person? I really appreciate any input. I know I'll never know the whole story, but just knowing something is nice. happy.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(heyemsta @ Jul 14 2007, 01:49 AM) *
I've been searching and searching on information of spirits taking material objects from houses/people/etc., but couldn't find any. Maybe someone here has some insight to offer? Here's the story:

This morning my parents woke up to our burglar alarm system going off. (I never woke up. I was in some kind of... coma.) The alarm does sometimes go off spontaneously, being an old, generic alarm system from a Radio Shack. They searched the house, but nothing was out of order, so they went back to bed. A few hours later, I woke up and got ready for work. Upon getting ready to leave, I couldn't find my purse. I never lose my purse in the mornings, because I NEVER go to sleep without it directly near my bed. (It provokes anxiety if it isn't near my head, on the floor. Not sure why.) My mother and I tore up the house for 30 minutes searching for it, when she finally drove me to work.

My mother came back home, tore up the house for another 5 hours, until she finally believed me that it was stolen. However, there were NO signs of forced entry. No signs of ANY entry. I don't want to type out all the details of how I know for sure that I had my purse near my bed, but I did. It was right next to my bed when I went to sleep. I didn't lose it. It just vanished.

I lost my iPod, my brand new digital camera (which I NEVER keep in my bag. Something just prompted me to put it in there for some reason.), and all my identification and money in my wallet. And my mom's camera, like, a 5 dollar camera, is missing.

How can someone come INTO my room, the hardest room to get to on the second floor, and grab my purse with my keys jingling on the side, without me waking up? Walking past my parents' room without my mother waking up? With my cat sitting still on the stairs when the alarm went off, and when my parents woke up again in the morning? (She's terrified of any person not me.)

My great uncle was a big prankster, to the point of sometimes taking pranks to a new level, where only HE thought it was funny, and he died in August last year. My mom thinks he's always trying to contact us. The more I think about this, the more I believe it wasn't the effort of somebody. For some reason I didn't plug my iPod into my computer last night, but I left it in my bag. And then there was the urge to put my camera in my bag. And my cat was calm. None of my credit cards were used. The house was in perfect condition. Even the police were perplexed.

Lastly, the strangest thing I noticed missing, was an object of my uncle's that was in my "special" box -- it's suddenly gone, and I've never moved it.

Do/can spirits take material things? Could it have been my uncle playing a rude joke on me? Or am I just being silly, and it's obviously a theft from a living, breathing person? I really appreciate any input. I know I'll never know the whole story, but just knowing something is nice. happy.gif



Hi, Actually having things go missing is common with spiritual activity but not all in one night. This may not be paranormal but a true theft, did you call the police anyway? JN
Watchful
Well, I have heard of this happening. Cannot be really sure if it really does, but I have read where people talk about missing things, and think that a spirit takes them. They say that if you think that an otherworldly spirit is responsible for missing items, just tell them to put them back. Now, I'm no expert on this, just from what I have observed.

Though, I have tried this. In the house down in Jersey, there have been numerous items missing from some time, not just our house, but in the house next door. All neighbors that have lived in that house, have reported missing items and not able to find them. It wasn't until lately, and I could be wrong, that I sometimes think that the house I live in now might be haunted. When things are unbelieveable missing, I sometimes either say outloud, or in my head, for that someone to put the things back or something close to that. Then, very soon after, the missing items turn up. Maybe to humor yourself, tell the individual in your house, who you think is responsible for your missing purse, to please put it back! See what happens.
heyemsta
JN - I did call the cops. They too were puzzled, and were not sure why the "thief" left me alone when I was sleeping in my room, and not sure even why he had attempted to go upstairs into my room.

And also, another question, regarding Stubbly's suggestion -- I really don't want to get, err, involved, per se, with any spirits. I've heard bad stories about people getting involved in the spirit world when they shouldn't. Is telling them to put something back an invitation to... I don't know how to say it. Does anyone know what I mean? I don't want anything trying to contact me...
Watchful
QUOTE(heyemsta @ Jul 13 2007, 10:13 PM) *
And also, another question, regarding Stubbly's suggestion -- I really don't want to get, err, involved, per se, with any spirits. I've heard bad stories about people getting involved in the spirit world when they shouldn't. Is telling them to put something back an invitation to... I don't know how to say it. Does anyone know what I mean? I don't want anything trying to contact me...
I think, that is a good question.
I don't think this is an invitation. I would think using something like other stuff, and I am very much do not want to say what it is by name, and other things, would be like an invitation. I would think that it's your stuff, the spirit made itself it's own invitation. Like I said, I could be wrong, and we should wait for the experts on this board to say something.
heyemsta
Thanks, I really appreciate it. I don't want to be overzealous and disrepectful by stepping into an area I'm not familiar with.
JustNormal
QUOTE(heyemsta @ Jul 14 2007, 02:13 AM) *
JN - I did call the cops. They too were puzzled, and were not sure why the "thief" left me alone when I was sleeping in my room, and not sure even why he had attempted to go upstairs into my room.

And also, another question, regarding Stubbly's suggestion -- I really don't want to get, err, involved, per se, with any spirits. I've heard bad stories about people getting involved in the spirit world when they shouldn't. Is telling them to put something back an invitation to... I don't know how to say it. Does anyone know what I mean? I don't want anything trying to contact me...


I have had money taken, clothes, shoes, credit cards and important documents. Since the last "exorcism" of my home every now and then I will find a twenty dollar bill just laying on the floor. A week or two ago I went to go to the store, and could not adjust my seat on my SUV, so figured something was blocking it. I just had it cleaned the day before so could not imagine there was anything behind the seat. I looked in and there was a $20.00 bill, and I thought OMG..My debit card was taken in late April and never used, so of course had to report it missing/stolen and have a new one and I KNOW I had it in my pocket when I went to store, came home and hung up flannel shirt, GONE. My son is missing lots of clothes, and I sure didnt take them. I think the best thing to do is, before you go to bed, say a prayer of your choice, and ask to have your stuff returned, in the prayer. That way, you are not talking to a spirit, but the God of your choice..Think you can do that? JN...
Barek Halfhand
I tried that story when I pawned a bunch of stuff.....it didn't work no.gif .....B






halfhandshuffle:Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc53eG1Gbv0
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 14 2007, 02:57 AM) *
I tried that story when I pawned a bunch of stuff.....it didn't work no.gif .....B
halfhandshuffle:Jane's Addiction - Been Caught Stealing (Video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc53eG1Gbv0



I hate when that happens... mad.gif
Lonecat
Do/can spirits take material things? Could it have been my uncle playing a rude joke on me? Or am I just being silly, and it's obviously a theft from a living, breathing person? I really appreciate any input. I know I'll never know the whole story, but just knowing something is nice.
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I have had the experience of things' vanishing from my flat, too. About three years ago I posted this account on a site that dealt with this subject in some detail. In fact, I'll give you the link to the site and hope it is still operating. Here is my account:

" I live in a small attic flat far removed from the hubbub of the streets below but I have experienced quite a number of "strange phenomena" while living there. I used to wear my Father's gold wrist-watch which he had left me when he died in 1975. My Mother gave it to me and told me that Dad had said he wanted me to wear it. I wore it for years but always took it off at night and placed it on the bed-side table beside the alarm clock. One morning I awoke to find that the watch was not there. My first thought was that my cat Ramba might be responsable (always blame the cat first!) but I thought this hardly likely. Search as I might, I could not find the watch anywhere in the small, snug dwelling. I was sorry the watch had gone and was puzzled, to say the least, but nevertheless dismissed it from my mind. About two years after its disappearance my Mother came from England to visit me. On the morning she was due to arrive I awoke and there was the watch, lying as if nothing had ever happened to it, on my bedside table. Of course I was much surprised indeed. Shortly after my Mother's arrival she told me about how excited she was and how she had enjoyed the flight from England via JAL (or a well-known Japanese airline if you prefer) and how the flight attendant had presented her with a beautiful pair of Japanese, paper slippers for her in-flight comfort. Of course, my Mother kept the slippers and showed them to me and wore them for the rest of that evening in my place.

The next morning I got up before her to prepare the breakfast and heard Mum call fom the bedroom, "Terry, have you got my slippers?" Well, to keep the story short, I said of course not and poor Ramba was again suspect number one. Mum said she had taken the slippers off and placed them beside the bed the night before as one might expect. That was in 1986 or thereabouts and since then the slippers have not re-appeared. However, Mum died in 1997 and about two years afterwards I was in the kitchen and had taken off my Father's watch (the same one as before) and laid it on the work-top just beside me in order to wash my hands. I dried my hands and turned to take up the watch again only to discover that it had again vanished. This time there was no cat to blame as Ramba had died the year before. To this day, neither my Mother's Japanese slippers nor my Father's watch has re-appeared though I still live in hopes as a watch that can vanish twice could just as easily reappear twice. There have been other strange occurrences in the place where I still live but all that, is, as they, say, another story..."

Well, that was three or four years ago and neither the watch nor the slippers have yet turned up. Here now is the link to that website which will give you many more accounts of things disappearing and reappearing:
http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/objs.html Good luck! Lonecat thumbsup.gif
Regency
The flip side of this is if anyone has had strange things turn up in their house that they know shouldn't have been there? JN said she had a $20 dollar bill turn up, has anyone else experienced this?
conundrum
QUOTE(heyemsta @ Jul 13 2007, 07:49 PM) *
Do/can spirits take material things? Could it have been my uncle playing a rude joke on me? Or am I just being silly, and it's obviously a theft from a living, breathing person? I really appreciate any input. I know I'll never know the whole story, but just knowing something is nice. happy.gif


I think they can. When I used to stay over at my wife's grandparents/moms house, several mornings I would wake up to put on my socks only to be missing one.

I never believed in ghosts until I stayed over at that house a few times, and it would only happen every once in a while on a night that some weird haunting things happened, like noises, feelings of being watched, etc. I would wake up and look all over the room, there wasn't really a lot in the room for socks to be hiding.

I always blamed it on her dog, a tiny Brussels Griffin, but after it happened like the 5th time and the dog wasn't in the room with the door locked and shut each time, I believed it was probably a ghost or something taking it.

It was weird because only one sock would be missing each time, never a pair or anything haha. I lost like a dozen socks over a course of maybe 6 months or so. Eventually, I just began stuffing them into the bottom of my shoes and that seemed to stop it.

The grandma told us she lost some kind of blush makeup kit thing and like months later it appeared in her underwear drawer. And the mom found some really old coloring book that had been missing for years on the kitchen table one morning. However, my missing socks never appeared again.
Please Explain
QUOTE(heyemsta @ Jul 14 2007, 01:49 AM) *
However, there were NO signs of forced entry. No signs of ANY entry.
lol...inside job.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Lonecat @ Jul 16 2007, 10:42 AM) *
Do/can spirits take material things? Could it have been my uncle playing a rude joke on me? Or am I just being silly, and it's obviously a theft from a living, breathing person? I really appreciate any input. I know I'll never know the whole story, but just knowing something is nice.
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I have had the experience of things' vanishing from my flat, too. About three years ago I posted this account on a site that dealt with this subject in some detail. In fact, I'll give you the link to the site and hope it is still operating. Here is my account:

" I live in a small attic flat far removed from the hubbub of the streets below but I have experienced quite a number of "strange phenomena" while living there. I used to wear my Father's gold wrist-watch which he had left me when he died in 1975. My Mother gave it to me and told me that Dad had said he wanted me to wear it. I wore it for years but always took it off at night and placed it on the bed-side table beside the alarm clock. One morning I awoke to find that the watch was not there. My first thought was that my cat Ramba might be responsable (always blame the cat first!) but I thought this hardly likely. Search as I might, I could not find the watch anywhere in the small, snug dwelling. I was sorry the watch had gone and was puzzled, to say the least, but nevertheless dismissed it from my mind. About two years after its disappearance my Mother came from England to visit me. On the morning she was due to arrive I awoke and there was the watch, lying as if nothing had ever happened to it, on my bedside table. Of course I was much surprised indeed. Shortly after my Mother's arrival she told me about how excited she was and how she had enjoyed the flight from England via JAL (or a well-known Japanese airline if you prefer) and how the flight attendant had presented her with a beautiful pair of Japanese, paper slippers for her in-flight comfort. Of course, my Mother kept the slippers and showed them to me and wore them for the rest of that evening in my place.

The next morning I got up before her to prepare the breakfast and heard Mum call fom the bedroom, "Terry, have you got my slippers?" Well, to keep the story short, I said of course not and poor Ramba was again suspect number one. Mum said she had taken the slippers off and placed them beside the bed the night before as one might expect. That was in 1986 or thereabouts and since then the slippers have not re-appeared. However, Mum died in 1997 and about two years afterwards I was in the kitchen and had taken off my Father's watch (the same one as before) and laid it on the work-top just beside me in order to wash my hands. I dried my hands and turned to take up the watch again only to discover that it had again vanished. This time there was no cat to blame as Ramba had died the year before. To this day, neither my Mother's Japanese slippers nor my Father's watch has re-appeared though I still live in hopes as a watch that can vanish twice could just as easily reappear twice. There have been other strange occurrences in the place where I still live but all that, is, as they, say, another story..."

Well, that was three or four years ago and neither the watch nor the slippers have yet turned up. Here now is the link to that website which will give you many more accounts of things disappearing and reappearing:
http://amasci.com/weird/unusual/objs.html Good luck! Lonecat thumbsup.gif



WOW Thanks for sharing. Seems to me your Dad took the watch and returned it when his wife came. Then she spent time with you and her slippers were gone. I think Dad wanted those items as well, possibly for reasons of his own. I am so sorry for your losses of your Mum, Dad and kitty. I dont understand why family would do that, then again they are on a different plane and those items were important to them. I would hope some years down the line, the items will reappear, as they are known to. Things like that happened alot here, but lately just random things and we dont even question it anymore, just accept those items are gone...Bless you..JN
JustNormal
QUOTE(Regency @ Jul 16 2007, 11:15 AM) *
The flip side of this is if anyone has had strange things turn up in their house that they know shouldn't have been there? JN said she had a $20 dollar bill turn up, has anyone else experienced this?



Hi Reg, yes money has surfaced since, but not my debit card and that ticked me off, but it was never even used and could be used as a credit card too, so obviously it was not stolen. My son still thinks I threw his good jeans, nice shirts and dress shoes away LOL..I would never do that, but he doesnt want to accept certain things that transpire here. But now we dont even talk about it, things still go missing and we just let it go. We get tired of stressing over things like this, it is what it is. BUT I have faith that at some point, more items will return..JN
conundrum
That makes me glad my ol' one sock ghost just grabbed a sock and not my wallet or debit card and cash. original.gif Wonder where the stuff goes.
Violet_Blue
I hate the missing socks thing! disgust.gif I have a basket full of hopeful socks that one day I'll find their pair. I look everywhere and still they disappear, and there is nowhere socks could be hiding. !!?!! mad.gif



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JustNormal
QUOTE(conundrum @ Jul 17 2007, 01:36 AM) *
That makes me glad my ol' one sock ghost just grabbed a sock and not my wallet or debit card and cash. original.gif Wonder where the stuff goes.


That is a question we may never know the answer to. I do know I found a twenty in my SUV and another on living room floor, but just showed up out of the blue. My Demonologist said eventually things will be returned "all in due time." I "think" they hide them somewhere, I just dont know. How did that cash end up in my SUV? I washed carpet and vacuumed interior the day before and a bill WONT stop an automatic seat from moving. Weird stuff happens. If I question it, I will lose my little mind.. w00t.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Violet_Blue @ Jul 17 2007, 02:35 AM) *
I hate the missing socks thing! disgust.gif I have a basket full of hopeful socks that one day I'll find their pair. I look everywhere and still they disappear, and there is nowhere socks could be hiding. !!?!! mad.gif
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LOL I think the dryer eats them..I can never find a match to most of them..OMG a dryer ghost.. unsure.gif
Violet_Blue
Yeah I sometimes wonder if we are oblivious to the fact that dryers are really portals into the unknown... dontgetit.gif and that's where all missing socks go.

Look inside your Dryer if you dare....


no.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Violet_Blue @ Jul 17 2007, 05:27 AM) *
Yeah I sometimes wonder if we are oblivious to the fact that dryers are really portals into the unknown... dontgetit.gif and that's where all missing socks go.

Look inside your Dryer if you dare....
no.gif


OMG I skeered now..Going to start washing them by hand, but there are questions about sinks and Woolite too. Whats a girl to do? w00t.gif
Regency
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 17 2007, 01:56 AM) *
Hi Reg, yes money has surfaced since, but not my debit card and that ticked me off, but it was never even used and could be used as a credit card too, so obviously it was not stolen. My son still thinks I threw his good jeans, nice shirts and dress shoes away LOL..I would never do that, but he doesnt want to accept certain things that transpire here. But now we dont even talk about it, things still go missing and we just let it go. We get tired of stressing over things like this, it is what it is. BUT I have faith that at some point, more items will return..JN


Very freaky.

I was thinking about things that don't belong there turning up - maybe really old things, I'm sure I've heard about this before but can't place where.
Jaguat
I think that what you are dealing with is a poltergeist. It is a sympton of having them in your place.
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It may also explain why it didn't bother you or why no-one has seen it....
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