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Banana Man


http://uk.geocities.com/tmjones28/harrison.htm#a
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Well, this was considered paranormal back in the 19th century but now it is clearly a cloth of some kind. Back in those days, it looked real and they had no way to prove it or disaprove it. Just imagine years from now when they can easily disaprove or aprove pictures from our time. What do you think on this subject?
BRAT2
looks like sheets, these things were faked by alot of mediums back in those days and alot. well at least some books i have say so happy.gif . but if it is real looks really uncomfortable grin2.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(Banana Man @ Jul 16 2007, 02:23 PM) *
http://uk.geocities.com/tmjones28/harrison.htm#a
Story Above.

Well, this was considered paranormal back in the 19th century but now it is clearly a cloth of some kind. Back in those days, it looked real and they had no way to prove it or disaprove it. Just imagine years from now when they can easily disaprove or aprove pictures from our time. What do you think on this subject?


Ectoplasm shows in many forms, and I have seen photos like this before. All it is, is stuff oozing from a spirit and can be seen in many parts of the body, for many centuries. I have seen some that looks like material, white globby stuff, heavy thick mist etc. Hard to say because there are so many forms of it, but I think due to newer technology it appears differently. Hard to say what they will think of our photos, but with each one, old and new, we learn something..JN- yes.gif
NatalieK
I've seen a lot of old photos of ectoplasm coming from a medium, but does anyone know where to find some recent ones? are there any? could it possibly be that most, if not all, were simply faked because they could get away with it then but not so much now with our digital cameras and ability to properly analyse images? if anyone knows where to find some more recent accounts, I would love to see them, or had any experiences?
JustNormal
QUOTE(n_a_t_a_l_i_e @ Jul 16 2007, 03:22 PM) *
I've seen a lot of old photos of ectoplasm coming from a medium, but does anyone know where to find some recent ones? are there any? could it possibly be that most, if not all, were simply faked because they could get away with it then but not so much now with our digital cameras and ability to properly analyse images? if anyone knows where to find some more recent accounts, I would love to see them, or had any experiences?


Every time you post I ROFL at your avatar, its just too cute. Thing about ectoplasm as I said, I believe looks different with newer technology, as opposed to the old black and white stuff from years and centuries ago. I mean its the same stuff, just now we have it in color and can enhance it etc. I could find hundred on the web but instead will post one of my own which I posted before. It has been deemed as ectoplasm in my bedroom. Now theres a comforting thought LOL..



spiridion
So obviously a piece of cloth.
NatalieK
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 17 2007, 01:27 AM) *
Every time you post I ROFL at your avatar, its just too cute


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Thing about ectoplasm as I said, I believe looks different with newer technology, as opposed to the old black and white stuff from years and centuries ago. I mean its the same stuff, just now we have it in color and can enhance it etc. I could find hundred on the web but instead will post one of my own which I posted before. It has been deemed as ectoplasm in my bedroom. Now theres a comforting thought LOL..


I meant more in terms of the mediums/psychics who appear to have it coming out of their mouths, ears, nose, etc, does that even happen anymore? mellow.gif that's a weird photo you have, under what circumstances was it shot? I already have a wardrobe door that opens on its own at the same time every night, if I photographed weird mists floating around my room I'd probably move out LOL
sixxx
I would suggest reading 'Spook - Science Tackles the Afterlife' by Mary Roach. She goes into great detail about how Mediums back in the day would 'practice' swollowing and controling their gag reflexes to produce these 'ectoplasms', and even go as far as to insert them into their vaginas or anus. It at one point got out of control that someone would have to inspect a Medium prior to their 'performance' to see if this cheese cloth 'ectoplasm' was - ahem - inserted somewhere it should never, ever be.
Primeval
QUOTE(Banana Man @ Jul 16 2007, 07:23 AM) *
Just imagine years from now when they can easily disaprove or aprove pictures from our time.


Don't think thats possible.
BRAT2
QUOTE(si*** @ Jul 16 2007, 08:55 AM) *
I would suggest reading 'Spook - Science Tackles the Afterlife' by Mary Roach. She goes into great detail about how Mediums back in the day would 'practice' swollowing and controling their gag reflexes to produce these 'ectoplasms', and even go as far as to insert them into their vaginas or anus. It at one point got out of control that someone would have to inspect a Medium prior to their 'performance' to see if this cheese cloth 'ectoplasm' was - ahem - inserted somewhere it should never, ever be.


Ouch!!!! ohmy.gif huh.gif happy.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(n_a_t_a_l_i_e @ Jul 16 2007, 03:47 PM) *
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I meant more in terms of the mediums/psychics who appear to have it coming out of their mouths, ears, nose, etc, does that even happen anymore? mellow.gif that's a weird photo you have, under what circumstances was it shot? I already have a wardrobe door that opens on its own at the same time every night, if I photographed weird mists floating around my room I'd probably move out LOL


Ohh Honey I should have moved out years ago. I told this before, but one night I was laying on my bed trying to go to sleep. I then noticed an orangish/reddish worm sort of thing up between ceiling and shelf. I thought it was a reflection of my electric blanket control as that color is silimar but it bothered me so I shut blanket off and it was still there. Every time I looked at it, it had moved, so I stood up and almost touched it (DAAAH) but opted not to. I thought it was kinda cute..So got my disposable camera and took a shot. Totally forgot about that one and had pics developed a few days later. When I saw what showed I thought OMG WHAT IS THAT? That is ectoplasm in my room..EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW..I have never seen Mr Worm since, and if I do he will get his pic taken again.... passifier.gif
Fluffybunny
To me each and every one of the photos I have seen looks like cheesecloth...sometimes wet cheesecloth, but cheesecloth nonetheless... It seems like something that some person tried to freak out people; it worked and then every person in the business went out and bought yeard of cheesecloth and it started to show up everywhere. I personally could not see how people could take it seriously....
Barek Halfhand
Many of the mediums from that area were pressured to produce on demand and of course now we realize that it doesn't always work that way ....... of course you see a multitude of suspect pictures from that period but some of them are intriguing.....B

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Banana Man
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 16 2007, 10:59 AM) *
Don't think thats possible.
We do that with 19th century photos and they said no one could ever disapprove/approve them.
Episteme
QUOTE(Primeval @ Jul 16 2007, 11:59 AM) *
Don't think thats possible.

It's looking more and more like it will be. I refer you here. It's possible now, but not easy (if you want to do it for free). But to do it easily and affordably, the software is now in the development stages! thumbup.gif

(Thanks, Please Explain!)
Banana Man
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jul 16 2007, 06:22 PM) *
It's looking more and more like it will be. I refer you here. It's possible now, but not easy (if you want to do it for free). But to do it easily and affordably, the software is now in the development stages! thumbup.gif

(Thanks, Please Explain!)
Exactly, I don't see how he thinks it isn't possible.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 16 2007, 01:25 PM) *
Many of the mediums from that area were pressured to produce on demand and of course now we realize that it doesn't always work that way ....... of course you see a multitude of suspect pictures from that period but some of them are intriguing.....B

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plus the apports may be genuine...

It looks to me like a guy with his head surrounded by fluffy cotton...

Can you tell me what the items are in the bottom photo? I am not sure exactly what it is that I am looking at there.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Jul 16 2007, 07:15 PM) *
To me each and every one of the photos I have seen looks like cheesecloth...sometimes wet cheesecloth, but cheesecloth nonetheless... It seems like something that some person tried to freak out people; it worked and then every person in the business went out and bought yeard of cheesecloth and it started to show up everywhere. I personally could not see how people could take it seriously....



Thanks, I have seen some of those old shots and they are gross, but you are correct it isnt ectoplasm as we know it, but does look like cheesecloth. WOW They scammed people back then too huh? UGH..This is a shot in my bedroom over my bed, and this is clearly ecto as we know it..
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Jul 16 2007, 06:35 PM) *
It looks to me like a guy with his head surrounded by fluffy cotton...

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For someone who is so well educated on the subject of ectoplasm I am rather suprised that you didn't recogonize this as Mary M from TG Hamiltons' UOM experiments...so when I show the entire photo we shall see that it must be a mighty small head ....

Mr Halfhand

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Can you tell me what the items are in the bottom photo? I am not sure exactly what it is that I am looking at there

edit : the APPORTS are a picture from the link in the OP.....
http://uk.geocities.com/tmjones28/harrison.htm#a
Violet_Blue
^^Very interesting, I don't think I've ever seen the full picture and didn't know that old man's face was part of ectoplasm next to someone's face?! ohmy.gif

Those ecto pictures with the cheesecloth are so gross! LOL disgust.gif
Episteme
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 16 2007, 07:42 PM) *
WOW They scammed people back then too huh?

I always liked looking at Mulmer's "spirit photographs". He was apparently caught in the act, but the charges had to be dropped for lack of evidence. Some "spirits" were found to be alive... ohmy.gif His photographs are great all the same. I was always curious how he pulled off the one below, and the story behind the photo is great.

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JustNormal
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jul 17 2007, 02:38 AM) *
I always liked looking at Mulmer's "spirit photographs". He was apparently caught in the act, but the charges had to be dropped for lack of evidence. Some "spirits" were found to be alive... ohmy.gif His photographs are great all the same. I was always curious how he pulled off the one below, and the story behind the photo is great.

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WOW That so looks fake... yes.gif
Please Explain
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jul 17 2007, 02:38 AM) *
I was always curious how he pulled off the one below,

A lot of fakers during those days huh !
I wonder why there is no full photo of ghost now when almost everyone got digital camera.
All we see are orbs. Does anyone really think that ghost can be captured by a camera?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Violet_Blue @ Jul 16 2007, 09:11 PM) *
Those ecto pictures with the cheesecloth are so gross! LOL disgust.gif
grin2.gif yes.....yes they are .....B







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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K27d7Ut5bXo
Please Explain
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 17 2007, 03:06 AM) *
WOW That so looks fake... yes.gif
Hey JN, that's more convincing than your thumb. jk
JustNormal
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 17 2007, 03:20 AM) *
Hey JN, that's more convincing than your thumb. jk



LOL ahhh shucks thanks PE. I am so touched.. tongue.gif
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 16 2007, 10:12 PM) *
.... Does anyone really think that ghost can be captured by a camera?
Not with that attitude Andy hmm.gif .....B








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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uqou-oEBcUY
Please Explain
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 17 2007, 03:31 AM) *
Not with that attitude Andy hmm.gif .....B


Oh ok, i mean when you see a ghost and you shoot it you might capture it.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 17 2007, 03:36 AM) *
Oh ok, i mean when you see a ghost and you shoot it you might capture it.



LOL You two crack me up!! grin2.gif
Jennie 1
QUOTE(Episteme @ Jul 16 2007, 09:38 PM) *
I always liked looking at Mulmer's "spirit photographs". He was apparently caught in the act, but the charges had to be dropped for lack of evidence. Some "spirits" were found to be alive... ohmy.gif His photographs are great all the same. I was always curious how he pulled off the one below, and the story behind the photo is great.

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Thanks for posting that Episteme!
So, fake ghost photos have been around for a very long time.
Those are good though and probably fooled a lot of people, I too would love to know how he did the one you posted.
It is incredible for it's time.

I wonder if he could have gotten away with putting a red light and a blue light in a room and then taking a pic of the ceiling and calling it ectoplasm. I think not.
iain c
man,those early 'ectoplasm' photos really used to piss me off bigtime,i wouldnt even read any article of the subject,the victorians must have been pretty bored stiff to come up with,"i know lets put a bit of scraggy old smelly cheesecloth in our mouths and say it's something from the spirit world",and people lapped it up laugh.gif sooooo fake not bad early photo effects though.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 16 2007, 10:36 PM) *
Oh ok, I mean when you see a ghost and you shoot it you might capture it.
In my case; I feel it then try to capture it....although I often get pings from certain photos that have absolutely nothing visible...
Keep in mind these old giant negative plate (whatever that means) cameras they used during the "ecto-era" may be of a design matrix that does in fact capture the elusive teleplasmic phenomena.......B

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Barek Halfhand
I found some more original.gif .... (caution: OMG-gross! ).....B

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Please Explain
They cut a real photos and inserted into a...what's that again? ahh...cheesecloth.
Concentrate on the edges because it's obvious fake.
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 17 2007, 09:13 PM) *
They cut a real photos and inserted into a...what's that again? ahh...cheesecloth.
Concentrate on the edges because it's obvious fake.
Do you think they may have been trying to create an atmosphere?..I see the suspicious borders myself...they are SO obvious and that is what intrigues me..since there are no guidelines how do we know the real thing doesn't look really fake?.....now is that the outline of a picture that was cut and placed craftfully in (looks more like) cotton? ...or is that a teleplasmic aura we see?...

way to spoil eveybodys' fun Andy....B

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JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 17 2007, 04:56 PM) *
I found some more original.gif .... (caution: OMG-gross! ).....B

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Those are just gross!!!
someoldlady
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 17 2007, 10:10 PM) *
Those are just gross!!!

Well, he warned you, lol. Okay, so if psychics drip this ectoplasm out of every orifice of their bodies, why have I never seen it happen? I have to confess, I didn't read about any of it, just looked at the pics and wondered if people really fell for them. What JN, ectoplasm doesn't drip out of your nose sometimes?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(someoldlady @ Jul 17 2007, 10:19 PM) *
Well, he warned you, lol. Okay, so if psychics drip this ectoplasm out of every orifice of their bodies, why have I never seen it happen? I have to confess, I didn't read about any of it, just looked at the pics and wondered if people really fell for them. What JN, ectoplasm doesn't drip out of your nose sometimes?
I would encourage eveone to look at the scenario...for two weeks straight on a nightly basis a group of a main medium , auxilliary mediums (2) and up to six additional "sitters"... the common opinion is that it takes weeks for the channeling medium to build up this ectoplasm...then only a soft red lighting can be used to see the exteriorizations....then the camera gear of the era is a factor....the photos I think are more of an illustration of what cannot be captured on film...or at least what is extremely difficult to catch on film....B


halfhandshuffle:Gary Numan-cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cdgTWitj_o
JustNormal
QUOTE(someoldlady @ Jul 18 2007, 03:19 AM) *
Well, he warned you, lol. Okay, so if psychics drip this ectoplasm out of every orifice of their bodies, why have I never seen it happen? I have to confess, I didn't read about any of it, just looked at the pics and wondered if people really fell for them. What JN, ectoplasm doesn't drip out of your nose sometimes?




:::sniff sniff:::LMAO..If I ever saw a photo with ecto anywhere near my body I would have a heart attack... innocent.gif
Banana Man
Indeed, ecto is nasty.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 18 2007, 03:34 AM) *
I would encourage eveone to look at the scenario...for two weeks staright on a nightly basis a group of a main medium , auxilliary meduims (2) and up to six additional "sitters" the common opinion is that it takes weeks for the channeling medium to build up this ectoplasm...then only a soft red lighting can be used to see the exteriorizations....then the camera gear of the era is a factor....the photos I think are more of an illistration of what cannot be captured on film...or at least it is extremely difficult to catch on film....B
halfhandshuffle:Gary Numan-cars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cdgTWitj_o



I think because those old pics are so fake, we think of Ecto as emitting from a person's oriface, which alone is gross to even think about. These days the photos I have seen of ecto is that smoky, misty stuff that is around a home, a person, animal etc. I know alot of channelers, psychics etc and have never seen ecto around them. Ecto is that "stuff" that oozes from "ghosts" or "spirits" so I am not sure it has anything to do with the person taking the photo or channeling but the photo itself, and under the circumstances under which the photo was taken. That is just my thoughts on it BF ((Hugs)) JN
tercado
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tercado
Weird stuff. So is ecto just a result of seances?
Barek Halfhand
you guys have a lot of nerve mad.gif .......B

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JustNormal
QUOTE(tercado @ Jul 19 2007, 05:34 AM) *
Weird stuff. So is ecto just a result of seances?


No Ecto is "stuff" that oozes out of "ghosts" and sort of helps them materialize. The modern day photos are not gross, like the much older ones. JN
Barek Halfhand
More from the abyss....B

http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/books/ha...on/chapter3.htm
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Dr. Hamilton obtained some three hundred exposures of fifty-two separate teleplasms. Some thirty of these fifty-two have been chosen for photographic illustrations of this report. The following Table indicates the distribution of varieties of types.

Mary M. Teleplasms
Classified According to Grade of Organization

Type Photographed In Text
All grades 52 (6) 30
Unorganized 19 7
Imitative 10 7
Utilitarian 3 3
Differentiated 21 13


The largest number excluded were of the unorganized, which in our opinion were the least interesting and important. Nothing has been lost by the omission of three imitative and eight differentiated plasms; one example is given of the five "veil" materializations


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....DAVID THOMPSON MATERIALIZATION MEDIUM - PROBABLY THE BEST WE HAVE IN THE WORLD TO-DAY. Some of you will soon be sitting with David to witness the phenomenon of materialization mediumship. It is critical to fill in a standard form identifying who you are and giving a procedural undertaking that you will abide by the rules - primarily for David's safety. I can tell you from nearly 20 years of investigating the paranormal, that David Thompson is risking his life every time he sits for materializations. This is because of ectoplasm which is exuded through his nostrils, ear or stomach. We, the sitters of the Circle of the Silver Cord, have witnessed in red light this whitish ectoplasm, composed of leucocytes white or colorless blood cells and epithelial cells taken from the various protective tissues of David's body. We have seen David unconscious, exhuding this beautiful looking whitish ectoplasm. But we know that with any sudden light this ectoplasm will be pulled back into his body at fantastic speed and could seriously injure and in the worst case scenario, could even kill David - the way ectoplasm killed Helen Duncan and injured many other materialization mediums ..
Nachtmahr
Looks like nothing but cloth to me.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 19 2007, 07:10 PM) *
you guys have a lot of nerve mad.gif .......B

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EWWWWWWWWW Those old pics give me the creeps.. ohmy.gif
Cold.
The first photograph looks like a person chewing on a sheet.
Banana Man
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Jul 20 2007, 11:43 AM) *
The first photograph looks like a person chewing on a sheet.
Indeed it does.
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