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July 17, 2007
Islamic Creationist and a Book Sent Round the World
By CORNELIA DEAN
In the United States, opposition to the teaching of evolution in public schools has largely been fueled by the religious right, particularly Protestant fundamentalism.

Now another voice is entering the debate, in dramatic fashion.

It is the voice of Adnan Oktar of Turkey, who, under the name Harun Yahya, has produced numerous books, videos and DVDs on science and faith, in particular what he calls the “deceit” inherent in the theory of evolution. One of his books, “Atlas of Creation,” is turning up, unsolicited, in mailboxes of scientists around the country and members of Congress, and at science museums in places like Queens and Bemidji, Minn.

At 11 x 17 inches and 12 pounds, with a bright red cover and almost 800 glossy pages, most of them lavishly illustrated, “Atlas of Creation” is probably the largest and most beautiful creationist challenge yet to Darwin’s theory, which Mr. Yahya calls a feeble and perverted ideology contradicted by the Koran.

In bowing to Scripture, Mr. Yahya resembles some fundamentalist creationists in the United States. But he is not among those who assert that Earth is only a few thousand years old. The principal argument of “Atlas of Creation,” advanced in page after page of stunning photographs of fossil plants, insects and animals, is that creatures living today are just like creatures that lived in the fossil past. Ergo, Mr. Yahya writes, evolution must be impossible, illusory, a lie, a deception or “a theory in crisis.”

In fact, there is no credible scientific challenge to the theory of evolution as an explanation for the complexity and diversity of life on earth.

The book caused a stir earlier this year when a French translation materialized at high schools, universities and museums in France. Until then, creationist literature was relatively rare in France, according to Armand de Ricqles, a professor of historical biology and evolutionism at the College de France. Scientists spoke out against the book, he said in an e-mail message, and “thanks to the highly centralized public school system in France, it was possible to organize that the books sent to lycées would not be made available to children.”

So far, no similar response is emerging in the United States. “In our country we are used to nonsense like this,” said Kevin Padian, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who, like colleagues there, found a copy in his mailbox.
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Oh oh I bet I've open a creationist can of created worms.
Chokmah
...I wonder if people would beleive a religious nut if they actually or even had a degree in Evolution.

I for one, can say I wouldn't.
__Kratos__
Nope, christians muslims are both wrong. mad.gif IT IS THE INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN'S DESIGN AND CREATIONS THAT WE ALL ARE AND ALL THAT WE KNOW! yes.gif

There we have it... My idea is just as valid as christians or muslims. original.gif

But wait... What if it's the garden fairies that designed and created all life? ohmy.gif I'm having a crisis of faith!!! unsure.gif


He he tongue.gif
~HaParash~
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 17 2007, 09:47 AM) *
Nope, christians muslims are both wrong. mad.gif IT IS THE INVISIBLE PINK UNICORN'S DESIGN AND CREATIONS THAT WE ALL ARE AND ALL THAT WE KNOW! yes.gif

There we have it... My idea is just as valid as christians or muslims. original.gif

But wait... What if it's the garden fairies that designed and created all life? ohmy.gif I'm having a crisis of faith!!! unsure.gif
He he tongue.gif

Even if the IPU created the world, creationism would still be valid.
__Kratos__
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 17 2007, 01:28 PM) *
Even if the IPU created the world, creationism would still be valid.


Yeah... That was the point...

I could even say that this can of vanilla coke that I'm drinking created all and it's still a valid for creationism. Creationism bases it's theory on ignorance and lack of reason. Is anybody really in their right mind going to pray and worship my can of vanilla coke now? It's the same idea. Just because people want to say it's true... It's laughable up to the point till they hand in some evidence to show they're not totally losing it by worshipping my can of vanilla coke.
~HaParash~
QUOTE(__Kratos__ @ Jul 17 2007, 11:58 AM) *
Yeah... That was the point...

I could even say that this can of vanilla coke that I'm drinking created all and it's still a valid for creationism. Creationism bases it's theory on ignorance and lack of reason. Is anybody really in their right mind going to pray and worship my can of vanilla coke now? It's the same idea. Just because people want to say it's true... It's laughable up to the point till they hand in some evidence to show they're not totally losing it by worshipping my can of vanilla coke.

It isn't based on lack of reason, it's based on the belief that there is a God.
fullywired
It is no surprise that Islam does not believe in evolution.they are still in the middle ages .They are still fighting the Crusaders to hear them talk.

Christians are coming round to the idea that there may be something in it ,except of course for the card carrying ,paid up members of the fundamental right


fullywired
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Just 'cause more than one spread the same gibberish does not make it any truer. But then again, we can lock ourselves up in a cellar and claim that the sun does not go up. The sun does not care.

ED:TYPO
~HaParash~
QUOTE(fullywired @ Jul 17 2007, 01:17 PM) *
It is no surprise that Islam does not believe in evolution.they are still in the middle ages .They are still fighting the Crusaders to hear them talk.

Christians are coming round to the idea that there may be something in it ,except of course for the card carrying ,paid up members of the fundamental right
fullywired

And those of us who know there isn't enough evidence for evolution to make it veritable.
Shaftsbury
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And those of us who know there isn't enough evidence for evolution to make it veritable.


Well if you apply the same logic as your previous post then evolution wouldn't have to be a fact, you would only have to BELIEVE it is.
fullywired
QUOTE(Child-Of-Israel @ Jul 17 2007, 09:27 PM) *
And those of us who know there isn't enough evidence for evolution to make it veritable.




I thought you were a party member????


fullywired
~HaParash~
QUOTE(fullywired @ Jul 17 2007, 01:55 PM) *
I thought you were a party member????
fullywired

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