Ashigaru
Jul 17 2007, 07:07 PM
The Three Ventriloquists
Jul 17 2007, 07:19 PM
wii fit may help get those crazy anti-video game people off our backs. Wii fit will not only promote an even more active style of game play but it will also give a more inovative experience.
Ashigaru
Jul 17 2007, 07:35 PM
If someone is lazy they aren't going to suddently become an all-star athlete because wiifit came out. If anyone buys this pos it will probably end up being an expensive doorstop after a month or two.
JeremyGTS
Jul 17 2007, 08:33 PM
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Jul 17 2007, 03:35 PM)

If someone is lazy they aren't going to suddently become an all-star athlete because wiifit came out. If anyone buys this pos it will probably end up being an expensive doorstop after a month or two.
lol i dont think you get it... this could be used for more than just wii fit this could be used in different games like a boxing game where you would use the wiimote and nunchku as your gloves and you would be able to side step on the board and weave the punches endless possiblilites with this..
and of course no one is going to be a star athlete by buying this thats just stupid to think and even say...
why would you post on this if you think its a POS? to flame people and put down their opinions... i think thats trolling?
you know for the "UM Game Guru" you are very biased on your opinions and childish.
Ashigaru
Jul 17 2007, 08:39 PM
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Jul 17 2007, 03:33 PM)

you know for the "UM Game Guru" you are very biased on your opinions and childish.
Because I know a gimmick when I see it?
JeremyGTS
Jul 18 2007, 03:26 PM
how is it a gimick? this will be big, alot of non gamers will buy a wii for just this and that just ups the sales which is good.
theres been talk the some developers already have some big ideas for the balance board, which will change the way we interact in games...
some people are too lazy to do any sort of physical activity and need to bash anything thats different or require any sort of movement, sad it is.
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 18 2007, 03:48 PM
this is a great idea i for one see many great possibilities for it's use this is why Nintendo kicks ass you don't have to pay hand over fist just to have fun which is what games should do let you have fun the idea of a balance board is great it can be incorporated into many different things i for one am buying one
Ashigaru
Jul 18 2007, 04:32 PM
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Jul 18 2007, 10:26 AM)

how is it a gimick? this will be big, alot of non gamers will buy a wii for just this and that just ups the sales which is good.
Non gamers haven't been buying the wii, why would they start now?
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 18 2007, 04:34 PM
i know plenty of people who never gamed before who bought the wii as a party favor or something to pass the time and they absolutely love that lil machine
noyritus
Jul 18 2007, 04:44 PM
Non gamers haven't been buying Wii????? Where they hell have you been? WiiFit is going to sell and be a staple of the future of the industry.
Primeval
Jul 18 2007, 04:48 PM
I don't know why they just couldn't make a console to compete with the 360 and PS3. They would probably be in front or behind the 360.
Ashigaru
Jul 18 2007, 05:04 PM
QUOTE(noyritus @ Jul 18 2007, 11:44 AM)

Non gamers haven't been buying Wii????? Where they hell have you been?
I see you've bought into nintendos propaganda. Less than 10% of people that have bought the wii are non gamers.
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 18 2007, 05:06 PM
which completely defeats your previous post of "Non gamers haven't been buying the wii, why would they start now? "
The Three Ventriloquists
Jul 18 2007, 06:16 PM
This is not a gimmick it will help you be brought even further into the game and help with physical fitness which will get rid of one of those anti video game peoples arguments.
JeremyGTS
Jul 18 2007, 06:21 PM
Ashigaru-
there are plenty of non gamers buying wiis like hotcakes... how else could you explain the high sales of the wii cant all be nintendo fanboys buying wii.
like i said before why even post about wii or anything nintendo related if all you have is negative comments? You will not change the opinion of anyone in here with your incorrect info and childish remarks.
Ashigaru
Jul 18 2007, 06:51 PM
QUOTE(JeremyGTS @ Jul 18 2007, 01:21 PM)

there are plenty of non gamers buying wiis like hotcakes... how else could you explain the high sales of the wii cant all be nintendo fanboys buying wii.
When the Wii matches the sales of the PS2 I'll believe non gamers are buying it. But polls show less than 10% are non gamers.

Nintendo puts out **** like this and says they care about hardcore gamers. Nintendo hasn't cared about us since the 64.
JeremyGTS
Jul 18 2007, 07:14 PM
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Jul 18 2007, 02:51 PM)

When the Wii matches the sales of the PS2 I'll believe non gamers are buying it. But polls show less than 10% are non gamers.
PS2 has a 7 year head start on wii and is still being sold... not saying wii cant do it but kinda hard with 7 year head start...
what polls? you provide no links to back up your statements...
AztecInca
Jul 22 2007, 07:20 AM
Interesting, once someone actually asked ashigaru to provide evidence to back up his comments he fails to post in this thread again. I would advise others to not bothering arguing with ashigaru as he is incapable of seeing reason and accepting anothers opinion if it differs from his own. He has already resorted to namecalling in this thread and his continuing behaviour with be noticed by the moderators especially if he is reported but others for his behaviour.
WiiFit is quite an interesting gadget and although I`m not personally interested in buying it for my own fitness I can see how it will appeal to many. It has already attracted mainstream media attention, with many believing it will vastly expand the casual gaming audience while improving many people's health and fitness. Its potential though for actual gaming could be quite immense if devleopers use the hardware appropraitely. Both casual and hardcore gamers could benfit from this little innovation.
Ashigaru
Jul 22 2007, 10:09 AM
QUOTE(AztecInca @ Jul 22 2007, 02:20 AM)

Interesting, once someone actually asked ashigaru to provide evidence to back up his comments he fails to post in this thread again.
Actually its because I don't remember where I saw the article and I couldn't find it. That and I have nothing else to say, besides the Wii is a piece of sh** that is.
QUOTE(AztecInca @ Jul 22 2007, 02:20 AM)

Its potential though for actual gaming could be quite immense if devleopers use the hardware appropraitely. Both casual and hardcore gamers could benfit from this little innovation.
Have you not seen the third-party titles for the Wii? You're just going to keep seeing the same sh** from them, poor quality titles only released to make a quick buck. Also every gamer that I've talked to doesn't care about WiiFit. Theres also the fact hardcore gamers don't play the Wii but thats besides the point. If you have seen that mario kart thing at E3 you'd know why hardcore gamers are not going to buy the Wii. They are making experience and skill unimportant.
Why does everyone think the Wii will be the god of all consoles when it has almost no third-party support?
AztecInca
Jul 23 2007, 01:42 AM
QUOTE
Actually its because I don't remember where I saw the article and I couldn't find it. That and I have nothing else to say, besides the Wii is a piece of sh** that is.
Again, you are rendering yourself and your arguments irrelevant, stating your opinion as if it is fact does not make it so. Why you cannot merely state that you prefer the other consoles over the Wii is beyond me. If in your opinion it is simply so bad why do you continually post in Wii related discussions and event start up topics on the Wii? You are simply opening yourself and your arguments up for attack.
QUOTE
Have you not seen the third-party titles for the Wii? You're just going to keep seeing the same sh** from them, poor quality titles only released to make a quick buck. Also every gamer that I've talked to doesn't care about WiiFit. Theres also the fact hardcore gamers don't play the Wii but thats besides the point. If you have seen that mario kart thing at E3 you'd know why hardcore gamers are not going to buy the Wii. They are making experience and skill unimportant.
Why does everyone think the Wii will be the god of all consoles when it has almost no third-party support?
And again you are stating your own opinions and experiences as if they are fact. You should really do some research before posting such statements. The Wii has vast third-party support and although to begin with much of it has been rather crappy with many ports and movie tie-in games, you cannot expect developers to immediately rush their very best products onto a new console in its first year. With every passing month more and more developers are jumping on board the Wii bandwagon with many announcing titles that look quite decent. The 360 certainly didn`t start getting constant highquality games until after its first year and the same is happening with the PS3 and Wii. They both have a number of high-quality games, but far more vastly inferior ones. It takes time for large numbers of quality games to appear on any console.
Ashigaru
Jul 23 2007, 02:30 AM
QUOTE(AztecInca @ Jul 22 2007, 08:42 PM)

Again, you are rendering yourself and your arguments irrelevant, stating your opinion as if it is fact does not make it so. Why you cannot merely state that you prefer the other consoles over the Wii is beyond me. If in your opinion it is simply so bad why do you continually post in Wii related discussions and event start up topics on the Wii? You are simply opening yourself and your arguments up for attack.
When you are actually able to present a counter-point let me know.
QUOTE(AztecInca @ Jul 22 2007, 08:42 PM)

And again you are stating your own opinions and experiences as if they are fact. You should really do some research before posting such statements. The Wii has vast third-party support and although to begin with much of it has been rather crappy with many ports and movie tie-in games, you cannot expect developers to immediately rush their very best products onto a new console in its first year. With every passing month more and more developers are jumping on board the Wii bandwagon with many announcing titles that look quite decent. The 360 certainly didn`t start getting constant highquality games until after its first year and the same is happening with the PS3 and Wii. They both have a number of high-quality games, but far more vastly inferior ones. It takes time for large numbers of quality games to appear on any console.
Name 1, just 1, popular third-party game for the Wii.
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 23 2007, 02:54 AM
fine one game OK easy Rayman Raving Rabbids
Ashigaru
Jul 23 2007, 03:46 AM
lol good one
Wow that came out a year ago and this is the first I've heard of it. Obviously its not that popular.
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 23 2007, 03:48 AM
was that sarcasm or do we happen to agree on this cause if so I've got like 10 000 balloons prepared to drop and champagne on the ice!!!
Ashigaru
Jul 23 2007, 03:51 AM
I don't think we'll be agreeing on anything anytime soon.
Has that game ever been in the top 10 anywhere?
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 23 2007, 04:02 AM
haha what a shame and a top ten doesn't prove much, but for anecdotal evidence best buy, futureshop, and eb games were sold out for 2 months in my town as well as a couple major cities in my province alone, that's proof enough for me that the game is or rather was at the time popular among gamers, and for you never hearing about it i don't find that very stunning as you have shown how much you hate the wii as well as Nintendo I wouldn't even be surprised if you didn't know what the legend of zelda games were about. The fact of the matter that you fail to realize or simply ignore is that the wii is a popular console with popular gamers garnered at all ages as well as all ranges of video gamers your ignorance is absolutely stunning
Ashigaru
Jul 23 2007, 04:12 AM
That paragraph was just full of fail.
I'd go into more detail but its 11:30 and I'm going to bed.
AztecInca
Jul 23 2007, 06:29 AM
QUOTE
Name 1, just 1, popular third-party game for the Wii.
Madden NFL 07, Tiger Woods 07, SSX Blur, RE4, Rayman Raving Rabbids, Trauma Center, Call of Duty 3, Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Tenkaichi 2,Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors(Only just released in Japan to massive sales), Sonic and the secret rings, even Red Steel achieved such good sales that it was not only profitable but a sequel is now in the works. There are others but that is all I can name off the top of my head. With Red Steel being the exception, all those games have averaged decent review scores, with some scoring quite high as well as achieving high levels of sales.
Ashigaru
Jul 23 2007, 08:59 PM
Most of those are launch titles so obviously they'd get ok sales. And everything I've heard about red steel was not good.
TheNomad
Jul 23 2007, 11:50 PM
As someone who owns numerous consoles (Dreamcast, N64 with the Philips 3rd party cd deck that sits underneath, Gamecube, NeoGeo, PSX, PS2, PS3, Xbox , Xbox 360 & Wii), the console that gets the most use out of all of those is the Wii without any shadow of a doubt. The PS3 is terrible & overhyped IMHO and nothing more than a glorified cheap BluRay player (especially since Sony decided to remove the hardware Emotion Engine from the European model and now going to remove it from the 80GB model worldwide) & backwards compatiability with PS2 titles is patchy at best especially with third party games such as the GTA series & even the Gran Turismo series that are Sony's own titles (if Sony cannot make their own flagship titles work then what chance is there for anyone else?). The X360 barely gets switched on anymore other than to use the HD-DVD add-on drive for movie playback purposes (better audio quality on my seperates system compared to the PS3's BluRay player). All of the GameCube games that we own play perfectly on the Wii (third party or Nintendo own).
My wife is the main gamer in the family and she will sit down and play a game until she finishes it regardless of how long it takes (not that long generally). She will choose a Wii game over any other on the other consoles when it is time to purchase a new one. Even my kids prefer the Wii to the PS3 (which we bought after the Wii!) and not just for the type of games available for it, but because they prefer the 'hands on' approach rather than just to sit there motionless twiddling thumbs. Even with my neck and back disability, I will at times play the games on the Wii even though it causes me discomfort, but it is the fun part of it at the end of the day that makes or breaks a console. If there is no enjoyment from playing a game, then it is not worth playing.
Ashigaru
Jul 24 2007, 12:46 AM
People don't buy the PS3 to play PS2 games. Not all Xbox games can run on the 360, infact most didn't when it first came out, so what is your point? And if you're getting poor sound quality on the PS3 there is something wrong with your setup.
JeremyGTS
Jul 24 2007, 02:43 PM
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Jul 23 2007, 08:46 PM)

People don't buy the PS3 to play PS2 games. Not all Xbox games can run on the 360, infact most didn't when it first came out, so what is your point? And if you're getting poor sound quality on the PS3 there is something wrong with your setup.
people bought the PS2 because it played PSx games... so yes people will buy a system that is fully backwards compatible so they can play the games they already own.....
Ashigaru
Jul 25 2007, 12:03 AM
I don't know anyone who bought the ps2 just to play ps1 games. Where are you getting your information from?
DДrk_Lotu§
Jul 26 2007, 03:37 AM
I bought a ps2 to play my old ps1 games and didn't buy a ps2 game for almost a year after it was released, because there were no games that interested me beforehand.
Dredimus
Feb 28 2008, 07:28 PM
The January figures state that the wii is in the top spot AGAIN.... Oh.. and I do have back up for that statement...
http://www.technewsworld.com/story/61711.html450 Game titles currently released world wide, some where around 217 in the US (give or take 20 cause they pop them out every few hours at this point) The wii isnt going anywhere, from my experience its loved by new comers AND HardCore Gamers...
grither
Feb 28 2008, 10:30 PM
The Wii fit looks absolutely stupid and I for one would not waste my hard earned cash on it. If you want to exercise go for a walk, if you want games you play a video game.
AztecInca
Feb 29 2008, 08:36 AM
^That however is simply your opinion and as Wii Fit has already sold 1.5 million copies in only 3 months in japan with supply constraints, it's obvious this is quite a popular "game". It's been in the top 5 software titles every week in Japan since launching and would have sold much more if Nintendo could manufacture more.
Benjo Koolzooie
Mar 27 2008, 03:11 PM
I've always been a Nintendo fan...but I also play other consoles. Each has their ups and downs. My point being - I'm not a "fan boy" to clear that up right away.
Secondly, the Nintendo 64 was brilliant - and the Gamecube had great games too. The loss of Rare was a bit sad, as they made plenty of good games for Nintendo, but still, there were good games on the Gamecube. As for the Wii, I have one now - and I have to say they are good, people that wouldn't play games in my family have been using it, and I know of a few people who own them who never would have owned a console before. Why? Because they obviously are fun consoles, and plenty of fun for people. There are a lot of fun party games - why not...games are meant to be fun. However, as a big fan of adventure games and such, I feel the Wii lacks that so far. Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime Corruption - good. Though we need more.
I saw the Mario Kart Wii wheel and thought "uhm..that looks a bit pointless"...but I think it comes with the game as an extra anyway...so it isn't all bad.
As for Wiifit....it isn;t stupid. Did you know overweight children are activley, and being encouraged, to use wii sports/wii fit...as part of school, and out of. Overweight children are not always willing to partake in PE as they feel ashamed...things like this gives them a chance to do it in the comfort of their own home and become more comfortable with their body. I don't think Wiifits claiming anyone will become an athlete, but it will encourage confidence and act as a learning ground for people.
I personally will not be buying Wiifit - but for me to cast it off as "stupid idea" would be stupid itself. I may have the confidence and body to go for a walk or go for a run, but there are lots out there who don't - who fear being ridiculed. Apart from the PC side of things - who said it wouldn't be fun in general anyway.
Leon S. Kennedy
Mar 27 2008, 05:39 PM
I don't care for the Wii one bit, and having a so called "fitness" game for it is rather pointless because of nintendo's statement saying "Excessive movement and/or throwing or whipping of the Wiimote can cause injury, the Wiimote is very sensitive and we advise only slight wrist movements." Now how are you suppose to get exercise out of that? I understand the idea, but they contradicted themselves and it made people really confused from what I heard. And as for my feeling about nintendo's other consoles, The super nintendo with mario was great, as was the 64, and cube wasn't bad, but the wii, i really don't care at all for it, sry to everyone out there, but its my opinion.
Benjo Koolzooie
Mar 27 2008, 06:00 PM
QUOTE (Leon S. Kennedy @ Mar 27 2008, 05:39 PM)

but the wii, i really don't care at all for it, sry to everyone out there, but its my opinion.
I don't think you need to apologize for your opinion. I like the Wii, but think it needs more games - that appeal to me anyway. Though I am looking forward to Smash Bros Brawl in the UK
Concerning the Wii remote thing with Wiifit - I've not investigated - but do you need to do your exercises with it...you get a sensor mat you stand on don't you?
Also I would like to add - though the Wii lacks games I'd like - so do many other consoles, infact Xbox, and Playstation 3 only have small amounts of games that interest me - that is why I play them all.
Leon S. Kennedy
Mar 28 2008, 03:54 AM
QUOTE (Benjo Koolzooie @ Mar 27 2008, 01:00 PM)

I don't think you need to apologize for your opinion. I like the Wii, but think it needs more games - that appeal to me anyway. Though I am looking forward to Smash Bros Brawl in the UK
Concerning the Wii remote thing with Wiifit - I've not investigated - but do you need to do your exercises with it...you get a sensor mat you stand on don't you?
Also I would like to add - though the Wii lacks games I'd like - so do many other consoles, infact Xbox, and Playstation 3 only have small amounts of games that interest me - that is why I play them all.
As for me apologizing for my opinion, it's a force of habit on my behalf, infact while reading this I'm tempted to apologize for some reason. For a sensor mat, I've heard nothing about it and I don't think there is one as it may pose a trip hazard which would lead to a lawsuit against Nintendo. And for your final topic, I think all the consoles lack games we can be interested in, but the companies are trying to appeal to a large crowd, and that hurts the hardcore gamers sometimes.
InHuman
Mar 28 2008, 04:00 AM
It alone is not going to make you FIT but its going to make you more aware of your body. It's not a substitute for a gym, but its an educational and fun tool.
It's also gonna be cool to see some other games that use it (skii)..
Also, a big plus with it is that it can calculate BMI (by % I think).. and I heard somewhere fat mass/bone/super cool stuff.
oh and some people were talking about backwards comp... the Wii is the only console that can play pretty much ALL games from last gen, WELL (because you can use GC controller).. so its 2 consoles in 1 +all the stuff on VC..
gigs
Mar 28 2008, 04:33 AM
It looked Ok in my opinion , made my abs hurt watching her.. If you can use if for games also, it is
a bonus. The BMI information is a great idea.
We really enjoy our Wii , we do our fitness test every day ( as a family ) !
G_Man
Mar 28 2008, 04:41 AM
work it baby work it... Gaming with excercise to cool
Benjo Koolzooie
Mar 28 2008, 06:56 PM
Leon.S.Kennedy - is there no mat then? I thought I read there was one that came with it, and it made the game almost as expensive as guitar hero?
AztecInca
Mar 29 2008, 08:49 AM
^Have you not see any screenshot's or video's of Wii-Fit in action? The "mat" as you call it is actually called a 'balance board" that you use to exercise on and weigh yourself on. The Wii-mote is is used sparingly and appropriately, with the balance-board as the key interface.
Benjo Koolzooie
Mar 29 2008, 01:12 PM
Ah! so you do get a "mat" .I have seen no videos, I am on 56k modem so very hardly view videos on my laptop if I can help it. However I did see a photos - that is why I mentioned the balance board. Not sure where a previous poster plucked up the idea there was none and only the remote was used.
remms
Mar 30 2008, 09:20 AM
most people that I have met that bought the wii are new gamers , so dont know what the person who started this thread is talking about saying alot of new gamers dont buy this. its the only machine thats gonna catch somebody new to gamings eye with the whole different gimmick , games are simple and easy to anyone just coming in to the new gaming experience . polls arent everything sometime ya know . and yeah the wii fit does seem a little fun , and im sure it will be used for some more games , the guitar for guitar hero was different at the time but did anyone give em sh** for it ? so why start with nintendo trying something new with the fit? new ideas , give em credit.
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