Agent. Mulder
Jul 17 2007, 07:48 PM
anyone see or buy this new vid yet?
if so, what do you think? any good? i havent seen it
http://www.thegodmovie.com/dvd.php?gclid=C...CFRI7ZQodGA530wseems interesting
Darkwind
Jul 17 2007, 11:25 PM
I thought it was good, worth watching. In the end you have to make up your own mind between atheism and theism.
♣FouxDuFafa♣
Jul 18 2007, 02:29 AM
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Jul 17 2007, 03:48 PM)

anyone see or buy this new vid yet?
if so, what do you think? any good? i havent seen it
http://www.thegodmovie.com/dvd.php?gclid=C...CFRI7ZQodGA530wseems interesting
True that. I mean, it was interesting, but in the end, it's up to you to decide.
Regency
Jul 18 2007, 07:33 AM
I've never heard of this, but judging by the link - it appears to be heavily biased towards discrediting Christianity, those who have seen it, is that it's purpose?
* The early founders of Christianity seem wholly unaware of the idea of a human Jesus
* The Jesus of the Gospels bears a striking resemblance to other ancient heroes and the figureheads of pagan savior cults
* Contemporary Christians are largely ignorant of the origins of their religion
* Fundamentalism is as strong today as it ever has been, with an alarming 44% of Americans believing Jesus will return to earth in their lifetimes
* And God simply isn't there
momentarylapseofreason
Jul 18 2007, 09:20 PM
From Wiki:
The God who wasn't There is an independent documentary written and directed by Brian Flemming which questions the existence of Jesus and examines evidence that supports the theory that the historical Jesus did not exist. Portrayed as a "guide through the bizarre world of Christianity", The God Who Wasn't There has generated significant controversy. According to the film's official website, the aim of the documentary is to hold "modern Christianity up to a merciless spotlight." The documentary's website goes on to claim it "...asks the questions few dare to ask. And when it finds out how crazy the answers are, it dares to call them crazy."[1]
Claims made by Flemming and interviewees in The God Who Wasn't There include:
* The divine Jesus was based on older, mythic "savior figures" such as Dionysus and Mithras and that Christian leaders are reluctant to teach early church history because it supports, rather than debunks, the theory that Jesus was a mythic figure rather than a historic personage.
* Earlier gods like Thor, Balder, Deva tat, Beddru, Dionysus, Bacchus and Horus shared one or more similarities to Jesus, including "Born of a virgin on December 25", "Killed on a Cross or Tree ", "Visited by Magi from the East", "Rode Donkeys into the City" and "Betrayed for 30 Pieces of Silver".
* Christianity's global success is based on its claim to historical accuracy. (Most other mythologies exist in the realm of metaphor and moral parable; the ancient Greeks never claimed that "Zeus walked the earth exactly 2000 years ago", nor did the followers of Mithras or Osiris claim to have documentary proof of the physical existence of their gods. But Christianity bases its claim to moral authority on the "fact" that God placed his own essence on Earth at a particular time and place, which "can" be documented.) Unfortunately for the Christian church, the "proof" evaporates on closer scrutiny.
* The letters of Saul/Paul of Tarsus, which were written prior to the Gospels, omit most of the events from the traditional "life of Jesus" (events that Paul would never have omitted from his arguments unless he had never heard of them), mentioning only the crucifixion, the resurrection, and the ascension as happening in a mythic realm, rather than in an Earthly one.
* Moderate Christianity makes even less sense than a fundamentalist interpretation of Christian doctrine.
* Christian doctrine is contradictory in details but unambiguous on one point: God demands you believe in him or be damned to eternity in hell. Flemming sees this doctrine as the key to, or the origin of, the Christian church's never-ending appetite for expansion and imperial conquest.
* Mel Gibson deliberately emphasized the blood and suffering in his film, The Passion of the Christ. Flemming quotes a number of scenes from the film and a running tally of depictions of violence, suffering or bloodshed is shown. The success of The Passion Of The Christ indicates that Christian audiences do not deplore, but rather revel, in the bloody, violent or even sadistic undertones of the Jesus myth, which gives the lie to Christian claims of moral superiority.
Hold on to your faith for it will be in for a bumpy ride !