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starlight64
Hey all,
Did anyone else see tonights episode?
It was one of the strangest I have ever saw! They went to a home located on the Property (about 200ft from) where Sharon Tate and others were murdered by Charles Manson and his Groupies.

They had a friend as a Guest w/ this EMF device that has lights on it instead of Needles. They asked questions and told the ghost to make it blink once for no and twice for yes. They also told the ghost to make the temp drop in a certain spot to a specific temp and it did. And there were some really creepy EVP's!

Now I went to browse the Sci Fi Ghosthunters forum and a bunch of people there are saying that it was faked. I am not sure but I find Tapp's investigators on the show to normally be straightforward and truthful. And the EVP's Were reallyyyyyyyy Creepy! ohmy.gif dontgetit.gif

I personally do not believe that the Ghosthunters investigators would allow themselves to be used OR even duped and take a chance on ruining their Credibility.

What do you all think? unsure.gif
NatalieK
Oooh which episode number was this? I've been downloading season 3 cause it doesn't show here in Australia, but this sounds like an awesome episode that needs to be watched right now. As much as I love TAPS and as credible as I find them, I wouldn't put it past them to maybe exaggerate or fake a little something to go out with a bang. In regards to them being duped, there's been a few episodes where I think they've been had. Like the Stanley Hotel, where they could hear voices calling out 'hello' in the employee passage way. About 10 minutes prior to the voice, they heard noises which turned out to be a group of employees down there. I personally think they were playing around with TAPS. Who knows, either way they're alot more genuine than most other ghost hunting shows.
randomhit10
that episode was a real eye opener...i believe anything can be faked but i do not believe this one was a fake....i believe they had a true encounter and was able to record it....i will watch it again.

randomhit10
seanph
I don't believe for one second that the TAPS guys are going to fool--or be fooled--by anyone. I've seen them dismiss evidence that I thought more than convincing--and I'm very skeptical.

An excellent show last night. Those EVP'S were just damn freaky!

Sean
HowdyDoo
I thought the homeowner seemed a little too exaggerated at the Tate location--but then, he's probably in show business somehow. He had the "talk show host" attitude about him.

I think the crew sensed that about him, and they were a little put off by it, but they were very professional about the investigation.

I also worried that they may have had someone try to pull a fast one on them--especially at the Henson Studios, where those people know how to stage special effects.

I worry about them bringing in that specific medium--I have seen him on Dead Famous, and he's sometimes just over-the-top with the possessions.

I just hope those guys keep their integrity about them. That's the best thing they have going for them.
NatalieK
I just finished watching it now, it was a very impressive episode. One thing I wanna mention though is in regards to the K2 meter, it's not exactly a specific "ghost tool." I've actually seen a guy demonstrate how it works (granted he was a Parapsychologist), but regardless he had us ask questions and stared hard at the meter, and answered us with it! seemingly with his mind, it was amazing. Not saying of course that the investigator who came in with the meter could have been creating the spikes and passing it off as a spirit, but just thought I'd mention that people can in fact affect the meter, it's not something restricted only to "ghosts", I was a little surprised they didn't mention that. The EVP's gave me chills, I had to get up and switch my bedroom light on cause the darkness was scaring me - I'm such a chicken $#*!. EVP's always freak me out, Grant was spot-on when he said they aren't always easy to listen to. Definitely one of the better episodes, though IMO it doesn't beat St Augustine's Lighthouse.

And I agree with HowdyDoo about the home-owner, in some respects he scared me more than any evidence they found in the house... he overacted bad. It's like he was genuinely surprised that they'd found something huh.gif
seanph
I think he got more than he expected. Those EVP's freaked him out. grin2.gif

Sean
Athena22
It sucks. No matter what kind of evidence that Ghost Hunters can present us, there will always be people to say that it was faked.
starlight64
QUOTE(Athena22 @ Jul 19 2007, 05:03 PM) *
It sucks. No matter what kind of evidence that Ghost Hunters can present us, there will always be people to say that it was faked.


You got that right!

I'm glad I am not the only one who actually believes the episode could be genuine. Supposedly the homeowner is coming out w/ a movie soon that has to do w/ the haunting. And that guy w/ the K-2 meter is suppose to be over the top as someone here said. That's why some were saying that it was probably faked. That 2nd evp sounded like a woman sreaming : " Why are you doing thisssssssssss? or Why are you doing this to us????????"
disintegration
I have a hard time believing the ghost hunters anymore. The first season was great. The guys were careful and professional. Now it seems every episode they are catching themselves with the thermal just before cutting to commercial. In regards to the finale I found it funny that the guest hunter was demanding the so called spirit drop the temperature in the room to a specific degree. I found it sad that Jason and Grant allowed this to happen. That is not professional IMO. Try and remember it is still reality tv.
Moondoggy
I would have to agree it gets a little commercial for me when the producers make it seem like they found something then cut for a commercial break and when they come back it is nothing. But they have to keep it interesting. But the thermal cam has really produced some interesting stuff from the images caught at the sanitarium, the trip to Ireland, the hotel in Arkansas etc... all very strange thermals that were not reflections.
starlight64
QUOTE(Moondoggy @ Jul 20 2007, 08:20 AM) *
I would have to agree it gets a little commercial for me when the producers make it seem like they found something then cut for a commercial break and when they come back it is nothing. But they have to keep it interesting. But the thermal cam has really produced some interesting stuff from the images caught at the sanitarium, the trip to Ireland, the hotel in Arkansas etc... all very strange thermals that were not reflections.



Of course they cut to a commercial at that moment of anticipation. Like someone else was saying... It is still a tv show. lol. They want to keep us on the edge of our seat if they can. But If you think about it, they debunk and disprove a lot more stuff than they prove. And they RARELY say flat out that any place is haunted.

And :disintegration Posted Today, 12:13 AM said:"
I have a hard time believing the ghost hunters anymore. The first season was great. The guys were careful and professional. Now it seems every episode they are catching themselves with the thermal just before cutting to commercial. In regards to the finale I found it funny that the guest hunter was demanding the so called spirit drop the temperature in the room to a specific degree. I found it sad that Jason and Grant allowed this to happen. That is not professional IMO. Try and remember it is still reality tv."


I am not a professional paranormal investigator so I suppose I don't know the proper procedures and protocols. BUT I know that they ask specific questions when recording EVP's and ask them to give them a sign ect.. SO, I don't know why it would not seem logical OR plausible to ask for specific answers/ responses while using this K-2 EMF device and the thermometer.

I think that the fact that they got such specific answers/ responses is so shocking to some people is really what is bothering them. Some people don't believe in ghost no matter what you show them (short of a personal experience, and even then they might just think they are losing it.) Some might find it easier to say : "yeah, they might have something there" than to flat out say : "Da*n! This is for real! In other words, to admit that there is real concrete proof that ghost/ paranormal entities exist.

Again, I honestly don't believe that Jason and Grant would allow their credibility to be ruined at this point. The show is established and doing well at this point, right? Why take a chance of doing that for one big show? If they were going to go this direction why not start going over the top and showy way before this finale? At this point all that they could hope to do is boost next season's ratings. Some suggest a pay off from movie makers. All I can say is that it would have to be a huge pay off to throw their reputations/ careers in the toilet at this point in time.
disintegration
My point was not about the dramatic commercial hangers but the fact that jason and grant are sloppy with the equipment and keep capturing their own shadows and reflections. I never said that they havent caught any legitimate activity whether be EVP, EMF, Thermal.... but the finale seemed over done and possibly faked in my eyes. Enjoy it for what it is....tv.
NatalieK
QUOTE
I think that the fact that they got such specific answers/ responses is so shocking to some people is really what is bothering them


I thought the "fake" claims might possibly have been because, as I mentioned above, K-2 meters can be controlled by people. This alone says amazing things about the capabilities of the human mind, but naturally when you apply it to ghost hunting, it can leave people questioning. I've never been to the Ghost Hunter forums so I dunno what people are saying over there or why some are claiming it was faked, but just by watching the episode myself, we have little information on the guest investigator and we don't know how credible he is or anything about his equipment. I love TAPS, and generally don't question whether what they've found is genuine or not (sometimes I suspect a fake occurance, but even then I don't let it bother me - I only watch because it's entertaining and I have an interest in the paranormal). So it's not Jason and Grant I'd attribute the "fake" cries to, but rather the guest investigator, because it was his equipment afterall and do we even know who this guy is? TAPS has earned the respect of the viewers and have a credible approach to the paranormal, we don't know anything about the other guy so naturally people probably don't trust him.
Daniella2310
aahh DANG IT, i turned the tv on , ghost hunters was on, but i was talking on the phone through the whole program! arrgghhh! (and it was with my dad, too, so i couldn't just tell him to call me later)
minkalover168
i saw that episode.....it was awsome! thumbsup.gif
KAOSInc
QUOTE(Daniella2310 @ Jul 22 2007, 05:22 AM) *
aahh DANG IT, i turned the tv on , ghost hunters was on, but i was talking on the phone through the whole program! arrgghhh! (and it was with my dad, too, so i couldn't just tell him to call me later)


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http://www.fanpop.com/spots/ghost-hunters/videos/87002

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