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Raptor

Jul 20 2007, 12:53 AM

A thread for the Order of the Phoenix movie has pretty much been hijacked, so I thought it was time to start a thread for the latest, final (

) book in the series, which is released tomorrow, on the 21st July.

I missed the hype for the last two books, so needless to say I've spend the last four days reading them both cover to cover so that I'm up to date for this one.

when.i.am.queen.

Jul 20 2007, 02:00 AM

12 hours to go here!

Goddness me, I do believe that I am hyperventilating.

What do people think of the good/bad Snape dilema?

Paranoid Android

Jul 20 2007, 03:14 AM

Oooh, tomorrow. I've only got 450 pages left to read of book 6

I was thinking something while reading through the beginning of book 6 though. We all know now that Dumbledore supposedly dies at the end. I was wondering - what if it isn't Dumbledore? At the beginning of Half-blood prince, when Dumbledore and Harry arrive at the Weasley's, Mrs Weasly let's Dumbledore and Harry in without even questioning them to see if they are who they say they are (despite Ministry protocol). Less than half a chapter later, Arthur arrives home from his job, and the first thing that Molly does is ask him secret question/answers as per the guidelines.

I'm just wondering why they would so blatantly disregard safety with Dumbledore. Maybe Rowlings just didn't want to give away the secret. This ties in with the Snape issue. First, Snape gets given the Dark Arts job which he's been denied for so long. Did Dumbledore really just have a change of heart, or was it a Death Eater making that decision? Also though, if Snape also knew that Dumbledore was being impersonated by a Death Eater, he'd have no issue killing him at the end, making him a good guy after all.

The only hole in my theory so far is that Dumbledore and Harry go on missions to destroy Horcruxes. I'm not entirely certain a Death Eater would help Harry do this. But it's worth thinking about anyway

~ PA

NatalieK

Jul 20 2007, 04:36 AM

I was hoping a thread would pop up, I didn't wanna open one myself though

in regards to Dumbledore, JK Rowling has confirmed that he actually did die. The only death she hasn't confirmed is Sirius Black's, obviously fans were asking, but she was always pretty vague about it. Daniel Radcliffe also spoke out in an interview one day about talking with JK, in which she said something about Dumbledore giving her trouble (while writing book 7) and he said, isn't Dumbledore dead? to which she said, yes he is "but it's complicated." I think he is gone, but obviously there was a reason he did what he did. My stomach is doing flip-flops, I can't wait til tomorrow

Talon

Jul 20 2007, 06:06 AM

QUOTE

What do people think of the good/bad Snape dilema?

I think Snape is still a good guy, and I'm confident he's going to die saving Harry. Dumbledore was begging him at the end... Dumbledore doesn't beg for his life, but he would beg for Snape to kill him if he thought it would solidify Snape's posistion with Voldomort and increase his worth as a spy + save Draco from doing it and staining his hands - as of yet, Draco is scum, but he's not a killer.

Shakezulah

Jul 20 2007, 07:04 AM

I can't wait to buy it. It's going to be an amazing book, for sure.

Raptor

Jul 20 2007, 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jul 20 2007, 04:14 AM)

I'm just wondering why they would so blatantly disregard safety with Dumbledore. Maybe Rowlings just didn't want to give away the secret. This ties in with the Snape issue.

I think that whole scene was just meant to be lighthearted, making fun of Mr. Weasley because he's always been so determined to follow every rule to the letter. I think that it was Dumbledore, after what happens with the penseive and the Horcruxes it wouldn't really make sense if it wasn't.

QUOTE(when.i.am.queen)

What do people think of the good/bad Snape dilema?

Pretty much the only person who ever believed Snape was good was Dumbledore, who was easily the wisest of all the witches and wizards. Even though he was killed I don't think he ever lost control of the situation, it was just part of a larger plan we don't yet know of. I think Snape had to kill Dumbledore, maybe Dumbledore even commanded Snape to do it? They were both arguing about something earlier on, maybe details of their plan? Right before the time of his death it says:

'Severus...'
The sound frightened Harry beyond anything he has experienced all evening. For the first time, Dumbledore was pleading.
Snape gazed for a moment at Dumbledore, and there was revulsion and hatred etched in the harsh lines of his gace.
'Severus ... please ...'
Snape raised his wand -- You know the rest.

All through the book Dumbledore tells Harry that there are things worse than death, and that one of Voldemort's weaknesses was not knowing that. Then it doesn't really make much sense that he would reduce himself to pleading for his own survival. In my opinion he was pleading for Snape to kill him.

when.i.am.queen.

Jul 20 2007, 01:49 PM

Wow....

13 minutes left

Im about to go down to the bookshop, but thought that I should post here first!!

I don't think that I am going to get too much sleep here!

MoonPrincess

Jul 20 2007, 03:22 PM

I'm going to buy the final book.

Get all the other books. And I'll start reading all of the books. Ending with "Deadly Hallows."

RedFFWolf

Jul 20 2007, 03:49 PM

Dumbeldore may be dead but I'm fairly sure he'll still play a big part in seven because of his portrait in the headmaster's room.
And I agree with Raptor X7 and Talon, Dumbeldore was pleading for death.
There's a couple of midnight openings tonight for the release of the book, I'm going to see if I can get down to one of them!

Finsup22

Jul 20 2007, 03:57 PM

What about Dumbledores Brother? Will he be a major ar minor player in this book? Do we learn all about Regelus Black(R.A.B.)?

RedFFWolf

Jul 20 2007, 04:00 PM

QUOTE(Finsup22 @ Jul 20 2007, 04:57 PM)

What about Dumbledores Brother? Will he be a major ar minor player in this book? Do we learn all about Regelus Black(R.A.B.)?

Oh yeah, there was something going around about Dumbeldore's brother being the barman at the Hog's Head. There was even a mention in Book 5 (I think that's the book) where Harry says he looks somewhat familiar.
I thought I should wrap it in spoiler in case it turns out to be real or people not wanting to know etc.

Finsup22

Jul 20 2007, 04:33 PM

QUOTE(RedFFWolf @ Jul 20 2007, 11:00 AM)

It is for real, I figured it out the same time you did.

CLICK HERE

RedFFWolf

Jul 20 2007, 04:45 PM

QUOTE(Finsup22 @ Jul 20 2007, 05:33 PM)

It is for real, I figured it out the same time you did.

CLICK HERE

I wonder if the death of his brother will cause Aberforth to assist the Order. I actually can't believe it's only a few hours before being able to read it. I managed to vow to mylsef not to spoil anything. Once I heard that a main chararcter was going to die in book 5, I went straight to near the end of the book, found out who died, then start reading. I did the same with book 6

but not this time, I avoided reading the last chapter that's available online aswell!!!

HowdyDoo

Jul 20 2007, 05:10 PM

I can't wait for #7.

I also think that Snape killed Dumbledore at his request. After all, he had that withering hand that would slowly kill him, anyway.
How many of you are going to jump to the last page to see the ending before reading the book?

NatalieK

Jul 20 2007, 06:19 PM

EEEEEEEEEEE it's 4:16am. There's no way I'm sleeping, too excited. On the subject of Snape, I believe he's a 'good guy' so to speak, I knew it the moment Dumbledore begged for his life. Dumbledore would do no such thing unless it was for show. Doesn't mean I like Snape, were he a real person I'd like to punch him, but I do think Dumbledore's death was planned prior to the event.

Thanks guys above for putting the spoiler tags on, much appreciated

Finsup22

Jul 20 2007, 06:22 PM

QUOTE(n_a_t_a_l_i_e @ Jul 20 2007, 01:19 PM)

I didn't take it as "begging" for his life, I took it more as a "pleading" for a solution to some unknown conversation they had.

NatalieK

Jul 20 2007, 06:35 PM

^ *shifty eyes* if you've read the leaked book and are revealing something then ... linked-image

Otherwise, I can see how that would work... though I'd have expected JK to be a little more specific. We'd have to assume that Snape would then reveal just what said conversation was, and were he actually a traitor to Dumbledore, I'd hope Harry would have kicked his a$$ long before any talking could get done

Finsup22

Jul 20 2007, 06:40 PM

QUOTE(n_a_t_a_l_i_e @ Jul 20 2007, 01:35 PM)

^ *shifty eyes* if you've read the leaked book and are revealing something then ... linked-image

nope, I did read anything.

I was not spoiling, I was mearly stating my opinion on the subject.

NatalieK

Jul 20 2007, 06:51 PM

QUOTE(Finsup22 @ Jul 21 2007, 04:40 AM)

nope, I did read anything.

I was not spoiling, I was mearly stating my opinion on the subject.

Then you're forgiven

we only have a few hours to go now anyway, the end is near

Raptor

Jul 20 2007, 08:08 PM

QUOTE(Finsup22 @ Jul 20 2007, 07:40 PM)

nope, I did read anything.

I was not spoiling, I was mearly stating my opinion on the subject.

I hope you mean "did not".

So apparently there're three editions, children, adult and special. Does any one know what's so special about the special edition? It costs almost twice as much!

A petition has been set up to persuade Rowling to write more books after this one. I know they don't usually do anything, but this one's being sponsored by Waterstones, so it's worth a shot, eh? Click

KingTomis

Jul 21 2007, 01:34 AM

I think Snape is good, regardless that he generally dislikes Harry and that he will die helping Harry.

I just got done reading #6 again in preperation and found something that is interesting. On page 405 in the US hardback version when Hagrid is telling Harry about a argument between Snape and Dumbledore, And snape was telling dumbledore that he took too much for granted and that maybe he (snape) didn't want to do it any more.

Spoiler*

I think what Snape was saying is that he did not want to kill Dumbledore if a situation came up where he had to either help Malfroy by killing dumbledore, or not, which would kill snape because of his unbreakable vow.

I also think that Harry will probably die. I think that harry is either a horocrux, made by accident by voldemeort when he killed Harry's parents and then tried to kill him, or some sort of half horcrux that voldemort turned harry into in his last moments. So if harry wants to kill him, he has to kill himself at the same time.

I also was stumped about the R.A.B thing actually until I just saw the latest movie. When Sirius is talking about his brother. His brothers initials match and he ran afould of the death eaters before he was tracked down and killed.

jesspy

Jul 21 2007, 02:24 AM

Its officially out here lol. I m sick so i cant get to the shops. But according to the radio to prevent people from picking up the book and flipping to the back and reading the last chapter all the books are individually wrapped lol. and have security tags all over them

but yeah i havent read any of the books as im a picture person more then a word person lol. so ill just wait for the movie to see what happens

AztecInca

Jul 21 2007, 03:14 AM

^I've come down with a really bad case of the flu but as my sister is a massive fan of the series, she went earlier today and got a copy for me as well. I`ve read around 120 pages so far and its shaping up nicely, with the usual high quality humour and action already underway.
I was quite surprised to find that the book was only just over 600 pages long, I had expected at least 700, hopefully 800 but I`m convinced everything can be tied up in 600 pages.

telirium

Jul 21 2007, 03:21 AM

i really pray we have a repeat of this

KingTomis

Jul 21 2007, 04:15 AM

hhmm, I was hoping for an extremely long book thinking thats what it would take to tie so many things up

I remember when the fourth book came out which was 734 pages I think. I got it at midnight and had finished it lunch time.

Ring Tailed Lemur

Jul 21 2007, 05:41 AM

Me and a friend of mine went to this HP party at the bookstore where the book was released at midnight. The party had things like face painting and baloon hats. We got some hats and I actually bought a porcupine puppet and tied it to my hat and walked aroud like that for the rest of the night.

At midnight there was a lot of screaming and everyone was all like OMGHARRYPOTTERRLEIKDAMOSTAWESOMESTBOOKSEVERNNOWDANUMBER7ISOUTNLIEKOMGYAY

when.i.am.queen.

Jul 21 2007, 06:03 AM

They are pretty expensive! I just got mine for $27.99, but the RRP is $49.95! That is a ridiculous ammont imo.
I got mine from Target, but as far as I coud tell they were all about the same price (including David Jones, Myers, Angus&Robinsons etc)

QUOTE(jesspy @ Jul 21 2007, 12:24 PM)

.. But according to the radio to prevent people from picking up the book and flipping to the back and reading the last chapter all the books are individually wrapped lol. and have security tags all over them...

I didn't actually see this...my one isn't individually wrapped.
Wish it was though!

Shakezulah

Jul 21 2007, 06:08 AM

I was going to get it tonight. I had completely forgot by midnight and didn't really know any 24 stores that sold books. But at around midnight, I went to the grocery store I work at to buy ice cream. I was talking a friend that works the late shift when a lady asked him if they sold the book there. I didn't even think about the fact they sold those books there. He looked, but didn't see any and didn't know where to find any. So I went to pay for my stuff, and a lady was buying a copy. The person ringing me up had another copy right next to here, and said they were keeping them somewhere. So I bought one. They sell them for 20 bucks even though the list price is $34.99. That was an awesome surprise. I'm going to start reading it ASAP.

RedFFWolf

Jul 21 2007, 10:44 AM

QUOTE(HowdyDoo @ Jul 20 2007, 06:10 PM)

I have 'warned' myself not to skip to the last chapter(s). It was a bad habit I had with the previous two books.
My older brother bought the book earlier this morning, and now he's gone to work for a long time.
I WANT IT WANT IT WANT IT!!! linked-image

Cdt_Lovekamp_US_ARMY_ROTC

Jul 21 2007, 11:09 AM

Todays the day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NatalieK

Jul 21 2007, 01:52 PM

So I've just finished reading it, thought I'd give my current opinion. I will say that I enjoyed some aspects of it.. and others I didn't. I think the Harry/Voldemort conclusion was fitting and a perfect way to end the series. I thought the particular deaths at the end weren't necessary (there were other characters I felt would have provided more shock value), though two of them, Lupin and Tonks, obviously paralleled Harry's own life, with them leaving behind a child. I guessed they would die when Lupin appointed Harry as Godfather, and Harry then compared himself as a Godfather to Sirius. It's still sad that Ted will grow up not knowing his parents. I understand that she felt she had to kill a Weasley (there's so many haha naturally she'd have to take out at least one), but I dunno why Fred... he and George always provided comic relief, I didn't think either of them warranted a death. The deaths I was most upset about would be Hedwig and Dobby... poor innocent creatures. Other plot lines were pretty obvious, like Regulus Black as R.A.B, Harry as a horcrux, Snape loving Lily, Snape's loyalty, Hogs Head owner being Aberforth, etc, obviously these had been discussed to death and contemplated by fans, so it wasn't too surprising - that's just me though, obviously I don't speak for everyone. I thought the final chapter was pretty cheesy, but nice to have a glimpse of the future. Hmm what else... there were certain loose ends, ones that I had assumed were vital, from previous books that she hastily tidied up, which isn't necessarily a bad thing considering she'd opened so many questions and only had one novel in which to answer them all. I would have liked to have had more information in previous books in regards to the Deathly Hallows - wand, cloak, and stone - some clues that could have hinted at that aspect of the overall story. Also I thought the whole Wormtail life debt would be a bit more climatic, that was one aspect of the story I was hanging out to read. And that's all I can pluck from the jumble that is my mind atm. It's not my fav book of the series, but it was a perfect end to the story, so kudos to JK

These are just my thoughts of course, can't wait to hear what other people think.

Talon

Jul 21 2007, 04:16 PM

i'm such a slow reader, i've been reading for 6 hours and i'm only onpage 127.... that 3 minutes per page

Shakezulah

Jul 21 2007, 09:01 PM

I'm about a fifth of the way through the book. Some of the events in it are schocking, to say the least, but it's still very good. I can't seem to put it down.

AstroForce

Jul 22 2007, 02:38 AM

Owned! - *WARNING - SPOILERS*

QUOTE

So who does die in this book?

There are so many...

The first death is Professor Charity Burbage, Professor of Muggle Studies at Hogwarts. The book actually opens with Voldemort torturing her, hitting her with Avada Kedavra, the killing curse, and feeding her to his snake as a punishment for standing up for the rights of Muggles.

In Chapter Four, as Harry leaves Privit Drive for the final time, the group sent to protect him is attacked by Voldemort and the Death Eaters. We lose Hedwig, the white snowy owl that has been Harry's friend and mail carrier through the previous six books.

In this battle Mad-Eye Moody, the Auror is killed. George Weasley is badly wounded, but survives.

Scrimgeour, the Minister of Magic is killed to put Voldemort's man in power.

Gregorovitch, the wandmaker, and Grindelwald, the dark wizard, are killed by Voldemort in his search for the Elder Wand, one of the three Deathly Hallows. Ollivander, the wandmaker is tortured, but saved by Dobby.

Bathilda Bagshot, an old friend of Dumbledore's family who still lived in Godric's Hollow, was murdered in order to lure Harry into a trap if he visited her for information.

Dobby, Harry's loyal protector dies rescuing him from Malfoy's house as Voldemort is about to arrive.

In Chapter 27 the goblin from Gringotts who brings news to Voldemort that the cup has been stolen is killed as are many Death Eaters. The Malfoys manage to escape from the room and survive the Dark Lord's murderous rage.

Snape is killed by Voldemort or more specifically by Nagini, but not because he was found to be a traitor...

Quite a few Hogwarts students, many who were part of Dumbledore's Army, plus members of the Order of the Phoenix died in the final battle. Crabbe was killed by the Fiendfyre he created to kill Harry - it almost killed Draco Malfoy. Tonks, Lupin and Fred Weasley are the main characters lost in the Battle of Hogwarts, but more than 50 were killed.

The biggest loss should have been Harry...the odds-on favorite to not outlive the series. He does get murdered by Voldemort, but the killing curse winds up only destroying the piece of Voldemort's soul that lived in Harry. Pretending to be dead, Harry is carried back to Hogwarts where Neville Longbottom risks his life to destroy Nagini, the last of the Horcruxes. The last victim in the book is Voldemort, himself. Destroyed by his own curse...

What were the Horcruxes? Voldemort split his soul into seven pieces in an attempt to conquer death. As long as any of the pieces of his soul survived, he could be returned to life. Unknown to Voldemort, he also left part of his soul with Harry when he attempted to kill him. That meant there were eight pieces of Voldemort's soul. One in his body, one in Harry and the other six stored in objects that had value or special meaning to Voldemort.

Tom Riddle's Diary - destroyed with a Basilisk's fang by Harry
The Gaunt Ring - destroyed with the Sword of Gryffindor by Dumbledore
The RAB Locket - destroyed with the Sword of Gryffindor by Ron
Hufflepuff's Cup - destroyed with a Basilisk's fang by Hermione
Rowena Ravenclaw's Lost Diadem - destroyed by Crabbe's Fiendfyre during the Battle at Hogwarts
Nagini, The Snake - destroyed by Neville Longbottom
Harry - survives, but the piece of Voldemort's soul is destroyed... by Voldemort
Voldemort - destroyed by Voldemort

Snape - the Half Blood Prince - was he good or bad? Both and neither? It turns out that Snape was a loyal Death Eater until Voldemort killed Lily Potter, Harry's mother. Severus Snape fell in love with Lilly as a young boy, before they came to Hogwarts. He pleaded with Voldemort to spare her life. After she was killed, he worked to overthrow the Dark Lord. He worked with Dumbledore to protect Harry even after Dumbledore was dead. As Snape died, he asked Harry to look at him. One last vision of Lily Potter's eyes...

What are the Deathly Hallows? The Tales of Beedle the Bard included a story of three brothers who cheated death and received three items - the Deathly Hallows. Ignotus Peverell, an ancestor of Harry's was one of the brothers. The Invisibility Cloak which was passed down through his family to James and then to Harry, was one of the Deathly Hallows. The Elder Wand, the Wand of Destiny, the Death Stick, which Voldemort stole from Dumbledore's tomb was another. The Resurrection Stone, which was passed through Voldemort's family mounted in the ring that was used as a Horcrux was the third. Voldemort and Harry were related since they both descended from the Peverell brothers!

Epilogue - 19 Years Later

Yes, Hermione and Ron get married and have a family. So do Harry and Ginny. One of Harry's boys, Albus Severus, is named for Dumbledore and Severus Snape!

Draco Malfoy also marries and his son, Scorpius, goes to Hogwarts with the Potters and Weasleys.

These are just bits of information. If you want to fill in the blanks, read the book. It's brilliant!!

Source

jesspy

Jul 22 2007, 02:47 AM

QUOTE(when.i.am.queen. @ Jul 21 2007, 04:03 PM)

Yeah i havent seen it either they might have been talking about overseas or something. Alot of the stores here are just keerping copies near or behind the counter

Oh can someone please PM me the ending lol or something and will this one be a movie too?

glorybebe

Jul 22 2007, 02:59 AM

QUOTE(The PuppetMaster @ Jul 21 2007, 07:38 PM)

Owned!

I read the spoilers, I'm weak. But, you may get shouted at if you don't kinda hide them. Others don't like the suspense to be ruined. But, thanks for the info!!!

jesspy

Jul 22 2007, 03:13 AM

thanks puppet master but could please edit your post to its covered in that special spoiler thing so other peopl edont get the ending

__Kratos__

Jul 22 2007, 03:57 AM

I haven't read anything in a while so I spent my entire day reading. Finally finished it!!!

Amazing that it's been a decade since the first book has been released.

I was a bit taken back by the amount of death she threw into this book and there was a bit more swearing. I don't mind just seemed out of place for Harry Potter books.

The storyline was capturing... I hardly put the book down at all todays. It's a great read over all and a fitting ending to the series.

AztecInca

Jul 22 2007, 06:19 AM

Well I just finished the final book and I must say I am satisfied with the ending.I never really believed it was necessary to kill Harry, Ron or Hermonie, so I am quite glad Rowling didn't kill them off. In my opinion everyone else was fair game though. Dooby's death was the saddest though as he was such a fine example of innonce and loyalty. The deaths of both Tonk's and Lupin just after they've had a child is quite awful also but Rowling did have to kill off a believable amount of good guys.When you sit back and think about what happens it is rather predictable, but as I said, I am extremly happy with how Rowling ended it. I would have however liked the epilogue to have been a bit more detailed as it would have been interesting to know what happened just after the final confrontation and the years leading up to that final scence. Then again, those 19 years leave quite a lot of untold stories now don`t they?

jesspy

Jul 22 2007, 06:40 AM

i see her writing more books or at least other authors trying to pick up from where she left it

Talon

Jul 22 2007, 09:59 AM

After 12 hours of reading I'm only on page 240... god I'm a slow reader. At least I seem to have done well on the price, Morrison's is selling it for £5 / $10.16.

AstroForce

Jul 22 2007, 02:03 PM

QUOTE(glorybebe @ Jul 22 2007, 02:59 AM)

I read the spoilers, I'm weak. But, you may get shouted at if you don't kinda hide them. Others don't like the suspense to be ruined. But, thanks for the info!!!

Lol thats why i put it

jesspy

Jul 23 2007, 01:59 AM

i loved it on the tv show "Rove" he had a copy of the book on screen and he is reading like the last page. Puts the book down and says....."it doesnt say what happens to Gollum...." and he drops the book annoyed

Talon

Jul 23 2007, 11:34 PM

MY god finally finished after 28 collective hours reading!

Okay. I thought Dolbey's death was the most upsetting, the only part of the book were I cried. I thought it was a really good book until the last two chapters were I think it fell apart. The Vold vs Harry fight was rubbish, four pages of the two bragging at each other while all the supporting cast stand around them watching, yeah right, someone would have tried to interfere on someone's behalf. Tonks and Remis' death was sick given the had a baby only a few months old, and why did Fred have to die? Why not Charlie; a minor character who could have been the token Weasley death without as much heartache. It was criminal to kill hedwig - animals and children... and hot girls - should be immune to death. The epologue sucked, it was tacky and poorly written, and I feel a future look at Harry's life could have been written far better. I feel more could have been done to explain what happened after the war to the supporting cast members.

Fantastic book, just I feel the last two chapters seemed to be an 'oh, almost done, and I have the money now, so I'll just rush the end' moment

jesspy

Jul 24 2007, 01:19 AM

QUOTE(Talon @ Jul 24 2007, 09:34 AM)

It was criminal to kill hedwig - animals and children... and hot girls - should be immune to death.

hahahaha I nearly fell off my chair laughing when i read that

AztecInca

Jul 24 2007, 04:59 AM

QUOTE

Fantastic book, just I feel the last two chapters seemed to be an 'oh, almost done, and I have the money now, so I'll just rush the end' moment

I personally didn`t mind the final battle, but the epilogue I agree was far too short and quite a let down. Although apparently she had written that long ago and wasn`t about to change or extend it for anyone. It was how she wanted to end it and for all we know she may be planning on writing about those 19 years after shes had a nice long holiday without a computer or pen in sight. In about 5-10 years maybe.

jesspy

Jul 24 2007, 10:27 AM

QUOTE(AztecInca @ Jul 24 2007, 02:59 PM)

I seriously see that happening shell miss it

ifisurvive

Jul 24 2007, 10:52 AM

Like others I felt the epilogue was way too short - I wanted to know so many things like how George dealt with Fred's death, more story on the aftermath, what jobs they ended up in etc. But, in a way I did see it pretty positively because I know that there is a 'happily ever after'. It bugs me when a book/film ends with success over adversity and then just throws it all away in a sequel. Actually I had a flick through Order of the Phoenix after I finished Deathly Hallows and the final battle has Sirius, Moody, Lupin, Tonks and Kingsley rushing in to the rescue - knowing only one of them makes it to the end added a bit more of a sombre note to that book!

Generally though I really enjoyed the book. I felt it had a lot less filler than the past couple of books and was well paced apart from the Hermione/Harry in a tent slow bit in the middle. Neville's story arc finishing as it did was great and Mrs Weasley's battle with Bellatrix was possibly my highlight of the whole series. The deaths didn't bother me too much apart from Lupin and Tonks, which was mostly because their deaths were just passed over, it would have been a lot easier if we actually saw them die heroically.

Oh yeah - Colin Creavey - how random was that?!

Paranoid Android

Jul 26 2007, 02:12 PM

I finished reading Deathly Hallows last night. Overall I was impressed with the finale, with many chapters ending on such annoyingly good cliffhangers that it was almost impossible to stop at the end of the chapter. Like everyone else so far, I think that Dobby's death was the saddest - he was just so innocent and happy and I cried when it happened. I was shocked that they killed so many people..... Fred, Lupin and Tonks (their death was particularly shocking, what with the bub and all), Mad-Eye. I wanted Lucius Malfoy to die, after all he'd done. I think Narcissa and Draco showed enough remorse and humanity to be allowed to live.

As far as the final chapters go, I do think the epilogue was a little too brief, but not altogether unpalatable. The final battle between Voldemort and Harry was overshadowed by the prrevious battle - Bellatrix and Molly Weasley going head on was tense..... I was cheering Molly on while at the same holding my breath that she didn't die.

What I found most interesting was the way certain characters were given a new direction. Particularly, Dudley's turn-around by shaking Harry's hand, and Harry calling him "Big D" was just strange, like I was in a parallel universe when the Dursley's were suddenly nice guys. Also, Kreacher's turnaround ultimately leading into his leading the House-Elves against Voldemort was just great.

In short, a satisfying read

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