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Is this the proof that spirits DO exist?

By HAZEL COURTENEY
20th July 2007
Daily Mail

Strange orbs of light have suddenly been appearing on scores of photographs ... what are they?

At first, it seemed no more than a curious coincidence. Professor Klaus Heinemann, a researcher for NASA, the U.S. space agency, was studying a collection of photographs his wife had taken at a gathering of spiritual healers when he noticed that many of them featured the same pale but clearly defined circle of light, like a miniature moon, hovering above some of the subjects.

Like most rational people, he assumed that the pictures were faulty. 'I presumed the circles were due to dust particles, flash anomalies, water particles and so on,' says Prof Heinemann.


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After-thought: An orb appeared on this photo taken by Klaus Heinemann


'But I was sufficiently intrigued that I returned to the room in which the pictures were taken, in the hope of finding an explanation - like a mirror in the background. None was forthcoming.'

Nor could he find any faults with his wife's camera. And as a scientist with considerable experience in sophisticated microscope techniques - examining matter down to atomic levels of optical resolution - his methods were nothing if not rigorous.

Still puzzled, Heinemann set out to discover what else might have caused the mysterious circles. He and his wife began taking hundreds of digital photographs at random events to see whether they could recreate the mysterious effect.

The answer was that they could make these shimmering 'orbs' appear again, but only - absurd as it may sound - if they 'asked' the apparitions to make themselves visible to the camera. And they found this method worked particularly well when the couple photographed spiritual gatherings.

What on earth was going on? Again, a maverick technical glitch seemed the obvious answer. Such anomalies happen frequently in digital photography. If you accidentally jog a camera while a picture is being taken, especially in dim light, you can easily get a double image.

But again, Prof Heinemann ruled out a technical fault. 'We were quickly able to eliminate the common problems associated with photography - such as dust particles, water droplets, reflections and a host of other likely causes.'

Yet the orbs still kept appearing. And the more images he took, the more he was able to study the bizarre properties of these shimmering lights.

Heinemann set up dozens of experiments using two cameras on static tripods under controlled conditions. His early experiments found that orbs can move very fast, up to 500mph or more.

Heinemann also found that during his numerous dual camera experiments, when he used twin cameras to capture an object from two different angles, a single orb shape would often appear - but only in one of the two images taken simultaneously.

It was as if the orbs somehow chose which camera to appear on, or whether to appear at all.

Eventually, Heinemann was left with only one conclusion: that he was witnessing some form of paranormal intelligence.

'There is no doubt in my mind that the orbs may well be one of the most significant "outside of this reality" phenomena mankind has ever witnessed,' says Professor Heinemann.

'Until now, there has been a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that the spirit world exists. I believe it's no longer anecdotal. Thanks to digital technology, we can see it for the first time. We are dealing with a non-physical - albeit real - phenomenon.'

The temptation, of course, is to dismiss such claims as bunkum. Indeed, many of Professor Heinemann's colleagues consider his research to be 'utter flaky nonsense'.

And yet a growing number of respectable scientists refuse to write off the possibility that these orbs, which are starting to appear on cameras around the world, just might offer a fascinating glimpse into the unknown.

Earlier this year, the world's first conference on orbs took place in Sedona, Arizona, where several scientists controversially stated that they believed orbs were indeed a genuine paranormal phenomenon.

Their conclusions, if correct, could have huge implications on the way we view the universe and our part in it. The experts say that just because something has not yet been scientifically proven, it doesn't mean that it is not real.

Professor William Tiller, a theoretical physicist who spent 35 years researching consciousness and matter at Stanford University in California, reminded the conference that what we see with our physical eyes comprises less then 10 per cent of the known universe.

This is because human vision operates only within a limited range of the electromagnetic spectrum. For instance, we cannot see radio waves, which carry huge amounts of information, yet we know they exist.

Similarly, Miceal Ledwith, a former professor of Theology, who for ten years was President of Maynooth College at the National University of Ireland, reminded the sceptics that when, in 1861, Dr Ignaz Semmelweis had claimed there might be some unseen link between surgeons who didn't wash their hands and the high rate of infection in childbirth, his mainstream colleagues ridiculed him.

Yet he had found the first evidence of what was later to become known as bacteria.

'Most great discoveries throughout history have been initially ridiculed,' Ledwith told the orbs conference. 'To my mind, there is no doubt that the orb phenomenon is real and deserves to be taken seriously. There are not just a few pictures of orbs, which could easily be faked, but hundreds of thousands from all over the world.'

To date, Ledwith, who was also a member of the International Theological Commission at the Vatican, has a collection of more than 100,000 orb pictures .

'They come in all sizes, ranging from a few inches to several feet across,' he says. 'Sometimes they appear alone, and at other times hundreds of them, in colours ranging from white to blue, green, rose and even gold.

'Over time, I realised that a flash seemed to be essential to capture them, even in daylight. I believe this is because we can see the orbs only through the process in physics known as fluorescence. The camera flash sparks this fluorescence process, making the orbs visible to the camera.'

Ledwith is still uncertain about what these orbs might actually be, but he has no doubt that they are some sort of paranormal apparition.

'I believe they could be many things. They lay turn out to be the spirits of those who have passed on; or, as some spiritual teachers state, they might be spirits waiting to be born into a physical body,' says Ledwith.

'They may also be, or represent, a host of other intelligences - from nature spirits to beings of pure energy that have never been incarnated in a physical form. There are hundreds of different types of orb.'

Many of the scientists at the conference believe the orbs are plasma-like balls of energy - but an energy that can be detected by physical means, and which appears to have some control over its own shape and form.

It's certainly the case that they can often be photographed best at places of psychic significance. 'They definitely seem drawn to spiritualtype gatherings,' says Ledwith.

'We regularly see orbs near healers' hands or heads. Perhaps they assist in the spiritual healing process.'

Take the case of Anna Donaldson, a freelance photographer who was commissioned to take pictures of Keith Watson, a medium who had been drafted in to help solve the disappearance of Sarah Payne, the little girl who was snatched while playing near her grandparents' home in West Sussex seven years ago.

The shoot took place at the exact spot where Sarah was last seen, because the medium had suggested that he 'might pick something up'. Sure enough, when the pictures were developed, a mysterious glowing dot appeared in one of the crucial images.

'I didn't believe in any of this paranormal stuff,' says Anna, 'but I couldn't find any fault with the camera - if there had been, then all the images would have been tainted, not just one of them.'

Still sceptical, Anna had the film and images analysed for technical faults, but again no one could provide a logical answer - until a member of the Psychic Institute suggested that the pictures could indeed be evidence of 'auras'. In this case, Anna was told that the blueish colour of the orb suggested the presence of a very young soul.

Still intrigued, Anna arranged to photograph Watson again - at the exact spot from where another young child had disappeared, this time in Greece. To her astonishment, the photographs again showed the presence of a blue orb.

And when Anna repeated the shoot the next day, in a bid to rule out a trick of the light, she got the same result - only this time it was two orange orbs.

'So what I now had was pictures of orbs from three different cameras, in two different countries, on three different days - there's simply no way that could be a chance occurrence or a technical fault,' says Anna.

'I still don't know what to think about it, but I suppose because a camera can pick up an image at a shutter speed of 1/2,000 of a second, it's possible it can detect things the naked eye cannot see.'

Could it have been the spirits of the lost children?


Terri Caldwell, a healer from Belbroughton, in Worcestershire, is among those who are convinced that orbs are a visible manifestation of human spirits.

'To my mind, the orbs are the spirit world simply going about their business,' she says. 'I believe we are all spirits having a physical experience, and when we die our energy field which carries all the information about us continues on.'

But not everyone is convinced. Gary Schwartz, Professor of Psychiatry at Arizona University, has conducted many experiments into orbs with the help of optical scientist Katherine Creath and remains sceptical.

'We feel that a large majority of so-called orb pictures are too readily attributed to some form of paranormal phenomena when, in fact, stray reflections in uncontrolled environments often produce orb-like images,' he says.

That does not deter those, like Miceal Ledwith, who feel orbs are simply too widespread to be written off as a misunderstanding. 'The orbs are an everyday part of reality, as much as we are,' he maintains. 'Their world may be as real as ours, but exists on higher frequencies.

'If you change your TV channel, you switch to different frequencies, which contain different information. It's illogical to think that what we cannot see is not real, because the human eye is able to receive only a very narrow part of the light spectrum. Many animals can see in spectrums invisible to us.'

As Professor Heinemann summarised: 'Research into orbs is only in its infancy. But the photographs of these spirit emanations offer evidence - as close to scientific proof as we have ever come - in proving the existence of spiritual reality.'


• Klaus Heinemann's and Miceal Ledwith's book, The Orb Project, will be published by Simon & Schuster in November.

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Sea
Right......
Cdt_Lovekamp_US_ARMY_ROTC
ohh intresting maybe???
Sea
... Uh Huh...
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 05:38 AM) *
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I am beginning to detect a pattern geek.gif ......B

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edit:..the three ORB-migos?....... no.gif nah!
Snake022
um.. i dont think THAT itself is proof that they exist.. we kinda already know they exist, because we have lots of proof. thats possible either a big ass piece of dust, or a moth, or some flying insect that is big, and dark, making it hard to see at night, so you didnt notice its there
KyrusRose
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 06:38 AM) *
Strange orbs of light have suddenly been appearing on scores of photographs ... what are they?


No.. these things have been around for YEARS. Speaking of which, when did this artical come out?

QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 06:38 AM) *
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After-thought: An orb appeared on this photo taken by Klaus Heinemann


This looks to me like a close up on a much larger picture, making the orbs seem HUGE when they are prolly no bigger then most seen in photographs. Also, if this is the type of orb in ALL the photos, I feel it is just dust. There are orbs, yes, but not this hazzy stuff that floats around when theres lots of people or yer in a basement.

QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 06:38 AM) *
Heinemann set up dozens of experiments using two cameras on static tripods under controlled conditions. His early experiments found that orbs can move very fast, up to 500mph or more.


Seems like a bit of over kill, because unless you where in a vacuum, theres no way to get rid of dust in the air, and no way of seeing most of it.. and HOW does one judge speed from still photographs??

QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 06:38 AM) *
'Over time, I realised that a flash seemed to be essential to capture them, even in daylight. I believe this is because we can see the orbs only through the process in physics known as fluorescence. The camera flash sparks this fluorescence process, making the orbs visible to the camera.'


This is what makes me thinks its nothing more then dust.

Sorry, this guy can't see the forest for the trees, would love to have a talk with him though, and see more pictures, maybe some of them are real. Hundreds of pictures and hundreds of sightings? No one could be that lucky.
She-ra
This is interesting! original.gif Jody
Never Here
I dont know what the big deal is about orb's.The fact is,they are for some of us,a fact of life.They show up in alot of my pics.They must be Spirits,of what i dunno.Im assuming humans.I noticed that my HP320 camera seems to pick them up better than any of my newer cams.It kinda makes me laugh when people say stuff like they arent real.Or that they are dust particles.I'd hate to go and die then come back as a dust particle.
Please Explain
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 21 2007, 03:06 PM) *
I am beginning to detect a pattern geek.gif ......B

Since you always visit a cemetery, why not do this experiment.
Set up a camera in a tripod to shoot succesive shots via remote control.
What you do is to talk with any spirits to show up in the camera.
Shoot one without talking to them and shoot again after talking to them.
JustNormal
If you look closely at the original photo (which I have seen before) there is something wrong. His sombrero (spelling) does not look like it was part of the orginal photo. It appears to be somehow placed on top of his head there after the fact with PhotoShop or another kind of program. Just doesnt look real.. no.gif
Please Explain
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 22 2007, 07:00 AM) *
If you look closely at the original photo
You have points in there.
How about the big necktie with the same design as the sombrero?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 22 2007, 12:40 AM) *
Since you always visit a cemetery, why not do this experiment.
Set up a camera in a tripod to shoot succesive shots via remote control.
What you do is to talk with any spirits to show up in the camera.
Shoot one without talking to them and shoot again after talking to them.
I've suspended that hobby andy unsure.gif ....except for the Bachelors' Grove visit I'm planning! innocent.gif .....
anyway...upon further review....B


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JustNormal
QUOTE(Please Explain @ Jul 22 2007, 08:40 AM) *
You have points in there.
How about the big necktie with the same design as the sombrero?


I feel it was designed to appear to be matched with the tie. The necktie might be real, the sombrero does not appear to be on his head when the photo was taken, it looks like a cartoon or something. unsure.gif
Never Here
No,i can promise you that is a REAL orb.See?Morons come out in droves saying his hat dont look right.It's been photo shopped.His tie dont match.He's not circumsized.That's a banana in his pants.It's a frikkin' orb,(i should know,i have a million pics of 'em)And that is an orb.And honestly,i have no idea what they are,i only know they are.And btw,anyone who wears a sombrero and wants to be takin seriously on here should change clothes first so as not to confuse the skeptics,Who will pick apart even the most credible person.I dont care if he's wearing a bra and panties,that is an orb.I have taken pics of them so close up,you can see some detail to it...like a face.Only it looks like some distorted cartoon type face,so if thats a hint at what they are...maybe they are the spirits of emoticons!
JustNormal
QUOTE(soldierspy @ Jul 22 2007, 06:43 PM) *
No,i can promise you that is a REAL orb.See?Morons come out in droves saying his hat dont look right.It's been photo shopped.His tie dont match.He's not circumsized.That's a banana in his pants.It's a frikkin' orb,(i should know,i have a million pics of 'em)And that is an orb.And honestly,i have no idea what they are,i only know they are.And btw,anyone who wears a sombrero and wants to be takin seriously on here should change clothes first so as not to confuse the skeptics,Who will pick apart even the most credible person.I dont care if he's wearing a bra and panties,that is an orb.I have taken pics of them so close up,you can see some detail to it...like a face.Only it looks like some distorted cartoon type face,so if thats a hint at what they are...maybe they are the spirits of emoticons!



The orb is not in question, the hat IS..I am in no way a skeptic and I have seen orbs I felt were of the paranormal. Even though its a great orb, the photo itself looks fake. If he was truly wearing that sombrero there would have been some evidence of it on his head, but instead there is a definate sign that it doesnt fit correctly on his head and appears to be placed there somehow, after the fact. That has been on the Internet for as long as I can remember and most of us are not morons, and in addition any photo inserted on this forum even by one of us, is debated. How do you "know" the entire photo is real? Care to elaborate? JN
Never Here
Yeah,i will...why would he fake the hat and not the orb....NEXT!
KyrusRose
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 22 2007, 02:52 PM) *
The orb is not in question, the hat IS.


Haha Yeah the title of this post was "Is this hat real???"

Lets just forget about the story and the orb and go DIRECTLY to the HAT, huh? Not off topic at all with that one.

As for the orb.. Its huge cause its a cropped image and zoomed in, and its prolly no different then the thousands of other orbs posted, but I don't think its a ghost or spirit or even an emoticon. Sure, its REAL, but a real piece of dust! you got yer dust ball simi-transparent smiley face things, and you have your ORBS, your glowing balls of light that when FILMED dart around, the ones that don't need a flash, unlike this guys. Yeah orbs are out there, but I think the only supernatural property of this one is it was put there by a ghost as a huge joke. "Those silly fleshys will believe anything!"
mychemicalromance
Its proof that your camera is a great pice of sh**.
JustNormal
QUOTE(soldierspy @ Jul 22 2007, 08:36 PM) *
Yeah,i will...why would he fake the hat and not the orb....NEXT!


The same reason millions of others do on the Internet. The Orb could have been a real one but added to photo too. Dont believe everything you see on the web....
Primeval
No it's not. It's actually the exact opposite! 100% sure this is just an anomaly on the photo.
irish girl
i do beleive in ghosts but that's a REFLECTION.
Shadow_Wolf
The sub-heading on the article illustrates how little research had been done by the author - orbs "suddenly" appearing huh.gif I've been doing empirical research since 1994, and orb photos were in circulation in the UK from at least 1992.

Prof Heinemann's research, analysis and conclusions are questionable - assuming they are published. His peers at NASA appear to give an honest appraisal...
She-ra
QUOTE(Shadow_Wolf @ Jul 23 2007, 01:14 AM) *
The sub-heading on the article illustrates how little research had been done by the author - orbs "suddenly" appearing huh.gif I've been doing empirical research since 1994, and orb photos were in circulation in the UK from at least 1992.

Prof Heinemann's research, analysis and conclusions are questionable - assuming they are published. His peers at NASA appear to give an honest appraisal...



Hmmmmm, I guess we can't base his ENTIRE research on one lousy picture then, huh? An honest appraisal from his peers at NASA; that's pretty STRONG in my book. Just my opinion. original.gif Jody
Bogeyman
Well i'm no big proponent of the orb / spirit theory because it's all too easy to disprove and show orbs that have been formed by moisture , dust etc but i will tell this story which i've told before here.
I was interested to read that he says when you ask them to appear they are more likely to.

I was at home one saturday and having a few beers by myself. I was thinking about my brother who'd passed on a few months before and to be honest i was missing him badly, i had his favourite CD on.The camera happened to be on the table so to take my mind off things i messed around with it ...i took a photo and noticed a small orb in it ....so i decided to talk to my brother (jokingly) and tell him to pose for the photo.
So i'd say something like "stand by the tv" or "stand by the chair" ...well here's the thing ,everywhere i asked for him to stand ,an orb would appear in the photo ....i kid you not.
Eventually i said "okay lets have no doubt this time okay , sit in your chair and let me know you're definitely here" . I pointed the camera at the chair he always sat in and right where a persons head would be there was a large solid (not transparant) white orb.....this freaked me out and i really got scared......When Mrs Bogey came home i told her the story and went to show her the pics .....but my son had since been at the camera and deleted my pictures to take pictures of his new skateboard. ohmy.gif
I've tried many times since to recreate what i captured that day but to no avail. As i said in the beginning of the post i'm pretty sceptical when it comes to orbs but i just cant explain what happened that day.
One more point ....The camera i used is the one i also use in work , it occurred to me that i had taken hundreds of photo's in factories all over the place with it, dirty ,dusty, damp,smokey factories......i decided to go through the photo's one day in work....in all the work related photo's i couldn't find one photo containing an orb of any kind....not a single one. But yet any photo's taken at family events always seem to have orbs in there somewhere.
Make of this what you will but thats just the way it was.
Bogey
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Bogeyman @ Jul 23 2007, 09:33 AM) *
....I took a photo and noticed a small orb in it ....so i decided to talk to my brother (jokingly) and tell him to pose for the photo.....
So i'd say something like "stand by the tv" or "stand by the chair" ...well here's the thing ,everywhere i asked for him to stand ,an orb would appear in the photo ....i kid you not.....

I've heard the same story from others Bogey....and they are generally in the wake of a loss (like your brother)...maybe some of us should experiment more with this....B






halfhandshuffle:U2-Elevation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDTV1ZeRBJw
JustNormal
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 23 2007, 02:07 PM) *
Hmmmmm, I guess we can't base his ENTIRE research on one lousy picture then, huh? An honest appraisal from his peers at NASA; that's pretty STRONG in my book. Just my opinion. original.gif Jody


Peers at NASA? I assume he knows someone that works there and they cannot tell a fake from a legitimate photo. How could anyone, even a skeptic or someone that knows jack about photos, can tell the difference..IMO..((Jody))
Shadow_Wolf
I guess we'll have to defer this argument until November wink2.gif
She-ra
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 23 2007, 12:11 PM) *
Peers at NASA? I assume he knows someone that works there and they cannot tell a fake from a legitimate photo. How could anyone, even a skeptic or someone that knows jack about photos, can tell the difference..IMO..((Jody))


I dunno sad.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif
JustNormal
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 23 2007, 08:31 PM) *
I dunno sad.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif passifier.gif



OMG You took all the binkies, just because or NASA? Then again, we need more than binkies to believe them. whistling2.gif
-Cult of the wolves-
I have a fun question HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A PICTURE OF A DUST PARTICLE AND COMPAIR IT WITH ORBS?
ValkyrieVoice
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 05:38 AM) *
Is this the proof that spirits DO exist?

By HAZEL COURTENEY
20th July 2007
Daily Mail

Strange orbs of light have suddenly been appearing on scores of photographs ... what are they?

At first, it seemed no more than a curious coincidence. Professor Klaus Heinemann, a researcher for NASA, the U.S. space agency, was studying a collection of photographs his wife had taken at a gathering of spiritual healers when he noticed that many of them featured the same pale but clearly defined circle of light, like a miniature moon, hovering above some of the subjects.

Like most rational people, he assumed that the pictures were faulty. 'I presumed the circles were due to dust particles, flash anomalies, water particles and so on,' says Prof Heinemann.
linked-image
After-thought: An orb appeared on this photo taken by Klaus Heinemann
'But I was sufficiently intrigued that I returned to the room in which the pictures were taken, in the hope of finding an explanation - like a mirror in the background. None was forthcoming.'

Nor could he find any faults with his wife's camera. And as a scientist with considerable experience in sophisticated microscope techniques - examining matter down to atomic levels of optical resolution - his methods were nothing if not rigorous.

Still puzzled, Heinemann set out to discover what else might have caused the mysterious circles. He and his wife began taking hundreds of digital photographs at random events to see whether they could recreate the mysterious effect.

The answer was that they could make these shimmering 'orbs' appear again, but only - absurd as it may sound - if they 'asked' the apparitions to make themselves visible to the camera. And they found this method worked particularly well when the couple photographed spiritual gatherings.

What on earth was going on? Again, a maverick technical glitch seemed the obvious answer. Such anomalies happen frequently in digital photography. If you accidentally jog a camera while a picture is being taken, especially in dim light, you can easily get a double image.

But again, Prof Heinemann ruled out a technical fault. 'We were quickly able to eliminate the common problems associated with photography - such as dust particles, water droplets, reflections and a host of other likely causes.'

Yet the orbs still kept appearing. And the more images he took, the more he was able to study the bizarre properties of these shimmering lights.

Heinemann set up dozens of experiments using two cameras on static tripods under controlled conditions. His early experiments found that orbs can move very fast, up to 500mph or more.

Heinemann also found that during his numerous dual camera experiments, when he used twin cameras to capture an object from two different angles, a single orb shape would often appear - but only in one of the two images taken simultaneously.

It was as if the orbs somehow chose which camera to appear on, or whether to appear at all.

Eventually, Heinemann was left with only one conclusion: that he was witnessing some form of paranormal intelligence.

'There is no doubt in my mind that the orbs may well be one of the most significant "outside of this reality" phenomena mankind has ever witnessed,' says Professor Heinemann.

'Until now, there has been a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that the spirit world exists. I believe it's no longer anecdotal. Thanks to digital technology, we can see it for the first time. We are dealing with a non-physical - albeit real - phenomenon.'

The temptation, of course, is to dismiss such claims as bunkum. Indeed, many of Professor Heinemann's colleagues consider his research to be 'utter flaky nonsense'.

And yet a growing number of respectable scientists refuse to write off the possibility that these orbs, which are starting to appear on cameras around the world, just might offer a fascinating glimpse into the unknown.

Earlier this year, the world's first conference on orbs took place in Sedona, Arizona, where several scientists controversially stated that they believed orbs were indeed a genuine paranormal phenomenon.

Their conclusions, if correct, could have huge implications on the way we view the universe and our part in it. The experts say that just because something has not yet been scientifically proven, it doesn't mean that it is not real.

Professor William Tiller, a theoretical physicist who spent 35 years researching consciousness and matter at Stanford University in California, reminded the conference that what we see with our physical eyes comprises less then 10 per cent of the known universe.

This is because human vision operates only within a limited range of the electromagnetic spectrum. For instance, we cannot see radio waves, which carry huge amounts of information, yet we know they exist.

Similarly, Miceal Ledwith, a former professor of Theology, who for ten years was President of Maynooth College at the National University of Ireland, reminded the sceptics that when, in 1861, Dr Ignaz Semmelweis had claimed there might be some unseen link between surgeons who didn't wash their hands and the high rate of infection in childbirth, his mainstream colleagues ridiculed him.

Yet he had found the first evidence of what was later to become known as bacteria.

'Most great discoveries throughout history have been initially ridiculed,' Ledwith told the orbs conference. 'To my mind, there is no doubt that the orb phenomenon is real and deserves to be taken seriously. There are not just a few pictures of orbs, which could easily be faked, but hundreds of thousands from all over the world.'

To date, Ledwith, who was also a member of the International Theological Commission at the Vatican, has a collection of more than 100,000 orb pictures .

'They come in all sizes, ranging from a few inches to several feet across,' he says. 'Sometimes they appear alone, and at other times hundreds of them, in colours ranging from white to blue, green, rose and even gold.

'Over time, I realised that a flash seemed to be essential to capture them, even in daylight. I believe this is because we can see the orbs only through the process in physics known as fluorescence. The camera flash sparks this fluorescence process, making the orbs visible to the camera.'

Ledwith is still uncertain about what these orbs might actually be, but he has no doubt that they are some sort of paranormal apparition.

'I believe they could be many things. They lay turn out to be the spirits of those who have passed on; or, as some spiritual teachers state, they might be spirits waiting to be born into a physical body,' says Ledwith.

'They may also be, or represent, a host of other intelligences - from nature spirits to beings of pure energy that have never been incarnated in a physical form. There are hundreds of different types of orb.'

Many of the scientists at the conference believe the orbs are plasma-like balls of energy - but an energy that can be detected by physical means, and which appears to have some control over its own shape and form.

It's certainly the case that they can often be photographed best at places of psychic significance. 'They definitely seem drawn to spiritualtype gatherings,' says Ledwith.

'We regularly see orbs near healers' hands or heads. Perhaps they assist in the spiritual healing process.'

Take the case of Anna Donaldson, a freelance photographer who was commissioned to take pictures of Keith Watson, a medium who had been drafted in to help solve the disappearance of Sarah Payne, the little girl who was snatched while playing near her grandparents' home in West Sussex seven years ago.

The shoot took place at the exact spot where Sarah was last seen, because the medium had suggested that he 'might pick something up'. Sure enough, when the pictures were developed, a mysterious glowing dot appeared in one of the crucial images.

'I didn't believe in any of this paranormal stuff,' says Anna, 'but I couldn't find any fault with the camera - if there had been, then all the images would have been tainted, not just one of them.'

Still sceptical, Anna had the film and images analysed for technical faults, but again no one could provide a logical answer - until a member of the Psychic Institute suggested that the pictures could indeed be evidence of 'auras'. In this case, Anna was told that the blueish colour of the orb suggested the presence of a very young soul.

Still intrigued, Anna arranged to photograph Watson again - at the exact spot from where another young child had disappeared, this time in Greece. To her astonishment, the photographs again showed the presence of a blue orb.

And when Anna repeated the shoot the next day, in a bid to rule out a trick of the light, she got the same result - only this time it was two orange orbs.

'So what I now had was pictures of orbs from three different cameras, in two different countries, on three different days - there's simply no way that could be a chance occurrence or a technical fault,' says Anna.

'I still don't know what to think about it, but I suppose because a camera can pick up an image at a shutter speed of 1/2,000 of a second, it's possible it can detect things the naked eye cannot see.'

Could it have been the spirits of the lost children?
Terri Caldwell, a healer from Belbroughton, in Worcestershire, is among those who are convinced that orbs are a visible manifestation of human spirits.

'To my mind, the orbs are the spirit world simply going about their business,' she says. 'I believe we are all spirits having a physical experience, and when we die our energy field which carries all the information about us continues on.'

But not everyone is convinced. Gary Schwartz, Professor of Psychiatry at Arizona University, has conducted many experiments into orbs with the help of optical scientist Katherine Creath and remains sceptical.

'We feel that a large majority of so-called orb pictures are too readily attributed to some form of paranormal phenomena when, in fact, stray reflections in uncontrolled environments often produce orb-like images,' he says.

That does not deter those, like Miceal Ledwith, who feel orbs are simply too widespread to be written off as a misunderstanding. 'The orbs are an everyday part of reality, as much as we are,' he maintains. 'Their world may be as real as ours, but exists on higher frequencies.

'If you change your TV channel, you switch to different frequencies, which contain different information. It's illogical to think that what we cannot see is not real, because the human eye is able to receive only a very narrow part of the light spectrum. Many animals can see in spectrums invisible to us.'

As Professor Heinemann summarised: 'Research into orbs is only in its infancy. But the photographs of these spirit emanations offer evidence - as close to scientific proof as we have ever come - in proving the existence of spiritual reality.'
• Klaus Heinemann's and Miceal Ledwith's book, The Orb Project, will be published by Simon & Schuster in November.

dailymail.co.uk


I don't know if it's "proof", per se, but it is just one more area to explore.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Spartan7 @ Jul 24 2007, 01:31 AM) *
I have a fun question HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A PICTURE OF A DUST PARTICLE AND COMPAIR IT WITH ORBS?




In a way I did, but I learned that orbs are a bit different than dust. It is said that dust is not perfectly round, but tends to be sort of fuzzy around the circle. Paranormal orbs tend to be perfectly round, and sometimes have texture, design and even a face. However, these are all up for debate with every photo seen on here..JN
Bogeyman
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 23 2007, 04:27 PM) *
I've heard the same story from others Bogey....and they are generally in the wake of a loss (like your brother)...maybe some of us should experiment more with this....B
halfhandshuffle:U2-Elevation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDTV1ZeRBJw



An easy experiment to run .....if everyone took a picture in their houses and then thought about a deceased family member and asked them to show up in the photo.....and take the photo in the same position again.
Cadetak
Even if they aren't dust particles that doesn't mean their spirits...it just means they are intangible white floaty balls.
Lizard King
Haha, you know, I was going to say this was a glare off of something, because I have experienced this taking pictures first hand. Then, as I started to take multiple bong hits and really stare into the large orb, I saw, and you can too, an alien face looking back at me. The head is large and its left eye, our right, is just coming off the top of the brim and you can see a little slit for a mouth below that. Stare into it.
Bogeyman
I'm going to try to run an Orb experiment okay.
Will start another thread on it.
Lizard King
Now go to the front page and look at the large color modified version of this picture. I have outlined what I see in the orb. Does anyone else see this?
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jul 24 2007, 07:38 PM) *
Now go to the front page and look at the large color modified version of this picture. I have outlined what I see in the orb. Does anyone else see this?


He would have seen it! yes.gif .....B

linked-image

halfhandshuffle:The Doors - Celebrarion of the Lizard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EnwYKNAiA
Lizard King
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 24 2007, 05:49 PM) *
He would have seen it! yes.gif .....B

linked-image

halfhandshuffle:The Doors - Celebrarion of the Lizard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6EnwYKNAiA


Yeah, a feast of friends.
Barek Halfhand
yeah jim... some of orbs seem to look more like aliens than spirit spectors ....B







ot-FOF and HIWAY is on youtube cool.gif

halfhandshuffle:The Doors-when the music's over
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slvPMU-7OyI
Lizard King
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 24 2007, 05:51 PM) *
yeah jim... some of orbs seem to look more like aliens than spirit spectors ....B
halfhandshuffle:The Doors -not to touch the earth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZKkmo4OfQ


Im serious, though. Do you see what I see in the orb?
ghosthunterxd
QUOTE(Blackwhite @ Jul 21 2007, 10:38 AM) *
Is this the proof that spirits DO exist?

By HAZEL COURTENEY
20th July 2007
Daily Mail

Strange orbs of light have suddenly been appearing on scores of photographs ... what are they?

At first, it seemed no more than a curious coincidence. Professor Klaus Heinemann, a researcher for NASA, the U.S. space agency, was studying a collection of photographs his wife had taken at a gathering of spiritual healers when he noticed that many of them featured the same pale but clearly defined circle of light, like a miniature moon, hovering above some of the subjects.

Like most rational people, he assumed that the pictures were faulty. 'I presumed the circles were due to dust particles, flash anomalies, water particles and so on,' says Prof Heinemann.
linked-image
After-thought: An orb appeared on this photo taken by Klaus Heinemann
'But I was sufficiently intrigued that I returned to the room in which the pictures were taken, in the hope of finding an explanation - like a mirror in the background. None was forthcoming.'

Nor could he find any faults with his wife's camera. And as a scientist with considerable experience in sophisticated microscope techniques - examining matter down to atomic levels of optical resolution - his methods were nothing if not rigorous.

Still puzzled, Heinemann set out to discover what else might have caused the mysterious circles. He and his wife began taking hundreds of digital photographs at random events to see whether they could recreate the mysterious effect.

The answer was that they could make these shimmering 'orbs' appear again, but only - absurd as it may sound - if they 'asked' the apparitions to make themselves visible to the camera. And they found this method worked particularly well when the couple photographed spiritual gatherings.

What on earth was going on? Again, a maverick technical glitch seemed the obvious answer. Such anomalies happen frequently in digital photography. If you accidentally jog a camera while a picture is being taken, especially in dim light, you can easily get a double image.

But again, Prof Heinemann ruled out a technical fault. 'We were quickly able to eliminate the common problems associated with photography - such as dust particles, water droplets, reflections and a host of other likely causes.'

Yet the orbs still kept appearing. And the more images he took, the more he was able to study the bizarre properties of these shimmering lights.

Heinemann set up dozens of experiments using two cameras on static tripods under controlled conditions. His early experiments found that orbs can move very fast, up to 500mph or more.

Heinemann also found that during his numerous dual camera experiments, when he used twin cameras to capture an object from two different angles, a single orb shape would often appear - but only in one of the two images taken simultaneously.

It was as if the orbs somehow chose which camera to appear on, or whether to appear at all.

Eventually, Heinemann was left with only one conclusion: that he was witnessing some form of paranormal intelligence.

'There is no doubt in my mind that the orbs may well be one of the most significant "outside of this reality" phenomena mankind has ever witnessed,' says Professor Heinemann.

'Until now, there has been a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that the spirit world exists. I believe it's no longer anecdotal. Thanks to digital technology, we can see it for the first time. We are dealing with a non-physical - albeit real - phenomenon.'

The temptation, of course, is to dismiss such claims as bunkum. Indeed, many of Professor Heinemann's colleagues consider his research to be 'utter flaky nonsense'.

And yet a growing number of respectable scientists refuse to write off the possibility that these orbs, which are starting to appear on cameras around the world, just might offer a fascinating glimpse into the unknown.

Earlier this year, the world's first conference on orbs took place in Sedona, Arizona, where several scientists controversially stated that they believed orbs were indeed a genuine paranormal phenomenon.

Their conclusions, if correct, could have huge implications on the way we view the universe and our part in it. The experts say that just because something has not yet been scientifically proven, it doesn't mean that it is not real.

Professor William Tiller, a theoretical physicist who spent 35 years researching consciousness and matter at Stanford University in California, reminded the conference that what we see with our physical eyes comprises less then 10 per cent of the known universe.

This is because human vision operates only within a limited range of the electromagnetic spectrum. For instance, we cannot see radio waves, which carry huge amounts of information, yet we know they exist.

Similarly, Miceal Ledwith, a former professor of Theology, who for ten years was President of Maynooth College at the National University of Ireland, reminded the sceptics that when, in 1861, Dr Ignaz Semmelweis had claimed there might be some unseen link between surgeons who didn't wash their hands and the high rate of infection in childbirth, his mainstream colleagues ridiculed him.

Yet he had found the first evidence of what was later to become known as bacteria.

'Most great discoveries throughout history have been initially ridiculed,' Ledwith told the orbs conference. 'To my mind, there is no doubt that the orb phenomenon is real and deserves to be taken seriously. There are not just a few pictures of orbs, which could easily be faked, but hundreds of thousands from all over the world.'

To date, Ledwith, who was also a member of the International Theological Commission at the Vatican, has a collection of more than 100,000 orb pictures .

'They come in all sizes, ranging from a few inches to several feet across,' he says. 'Sometimes they appear alone, and at other times hundreds of them, in colours ranging from white to blue, green, rose and even gold.

'Over time, I realised that a flash seemed to be essential to capture them, even in daylight. I believe this is because we can see the orbs only through the process in physics known as fluorescence. The camera flash sparks this fluorescence process, making the orbs visible to the camera.'

Ledwith is still uncertain about what these orbs might actually be, but he has no doubt that they are some sort of paranormal apparition.

'I believe they could be many things. They lay turn out to be the spirits of those who have passed on; or, as some spiritual teachers state, they might be spirits waiting to be born into a physical body,' says Ledwith.

'They may also be, or represent, a host of other intelligences - from nature spirits to beings of pure energy that have never been incarnated in a physical form. There are hundreds of different types of orb.'

Many of the scientists at the conference believe the orbs are plasma-like balls of energy - but an energy that can be detected by physical means, and which appears to have some control over its own shape and form.

It's certainly the case that they can often be photographed best at places of psychic significance. 'They definitely seem drawn to spiritualtype gatherings,' says Ledwith.

'We regularly see orbs near healers' hands or heads. Perhaps they assist in the spiritual healing process.'

Take the case of Anna Donaldson, a freelance photographer who was commissioned to take pictures of Keith Watson, a medium who had been drafted in to help solve the disappearance of Sarah Payne, the little girl who was snatched while playing near her grandparents' home in West Sussex seven years ago.

The shoot took place at the exact spot where Sarah was last seen, because the medium had suggested that he 'might pick something up'. Sure enough, when the pictures were developed, a mysterious glowing dot appeared in one of the crucial images.

'I didn't believe in any of this paranormal stuff,' says Anna, 'but I couldn't find any fault with the camera - if there had been, then all the images would have been tainted, not just one of them.'

Still sceptical, Anna had the film and images analysed for technical faults, but again no one could provide a logical answer - until a member of the Psychic Institute suggested that the pictures could indeed be evidence of 'auras'. In this case, Anna was told that the blueish colour of the orb suggested the presence of a very young soul.

Still intrigued, Anna arranged to photograph Watson again - at the exact spot from where another young child had disappeared, this time in Greece. To her astonishment, the photographs again showed the presence of a blue orb.

And when Anna repeated the shoot the next day, in a bid to rule out a trick of the light, she got the same result - only this time it was two orange orbs.

'So what I now had was pictures of orbs from three different cameras, in two different countries, on three different days - there's simply no way that could be a chance occurrence or a technical fault,' says Anna.

'I still don't know what to think about it, but I suppose because a camera can pick up an image at a shutter speed of 1/2,000 of a second, it's possible it can detect things the naked eye cannot see.'

Could it have been the spirits of the lost children?
Terri Caldwell, a healer from Belbroughton, in Worcestershire, is among those who are convinced that orbs are a visible manifestation of human spirits.

'To my mind, the orbs are the spirit world simply going about their business,' she says. 'I believe we are all spirits having a physical experience, and when we die our energy field which carries all the information about us continues on.'

But not everyone is convinced. Gary Schwartz, Professor of Psychiatry at Arizona University, has conducted many experiments into orbs with the help of optical scientist Katherine Creath and remains sceptical.

'We feel that a large majority of so-called orb pictures are too readily attributed to some form of paranormal phenomena when, in fact, stray reflections in uncontrolled environments often produce orb-like images,' he says.

That does not deter those, like Miceal Ledwith, who feel orbs are simply too widespread to be written off as a misunderstanding. 'The orbs are an everyday part of reality, as much as we are,' he maintains. 'Their world may be as real as ours, but exists on higher frequencies.

'If you change your TV channel, you switch to different frequencies, which contain different information. It's illogical to think that what we cannot see is not real, because the human eye is able to receive only a very narrow part of the light spectrum. Many animals can see in spectrums invisible to us.'

As Professor Heinemann summarised: 'Research into orbs is only in its infancy. But the photographs of these spirit emanations offer evidence - as close to scientific proof as we have ever come - in proving the existence of spiritual reality.'
• Klaus Heinemann's and Miceal Ledwith's book, The Orb Project, will be published by Simon & Schuster in November.

dailymail.co.uk





linked-image




notice the difference between the orbs i took this picture in a cemetery and never edited it and i suspect your is just glare from the flash
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Jul 24 2007, 08:02 PM) *
Im serious, though. Do you see what I see in the orb?


I see it in the original as well as the augmented version thumbsup.gif ....good eye ......B







halfhandshuffle:The Doors - Shaman's Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBw0zWOezSI
Lizard King
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 24 2007, 06:11 PM) *
I see it in the original as well as the augmented version thumbsup.gif ....good eye ......B
halfhandshuffle:The Doors - Shaman's Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBw0zWOezSI


Haha! Yeah! Thanks, man. I see faces in almost everything, sadly, most of them are screaming. Hey look, its happy hour...
Anukis
A friend of mine sent me this via e-mail, and i found it very interesting, and im sure most of you will too since orbs are and were discussed alot in these forums--- so i thought about sharing it with my UM pals original.gif


It seems like some scientists are now studying the phenomenon. Here is a very interesting report about what they think they are and what they have discovered so far---

Source: The Daily Mail - London, UK

http://tinyurl.com/37ypca

20th July 2007

Is This The Proof That Spirits Do Exist?By Hazel Courteney

At first, it seemed no more than a curious coincidence. Professor Klaus Heinemann, a researcher for NASA, the U.S. space agency, was studying a collection of photographs his wife had taken at a gathering of spiritual healers when he noticed that many of them featured the same pale but clearly defined circle of light, like a miniature moon, hovering above some of the subjects.

Like most rational people, he assumed that the pictures were faulty. 'I presumed the circles were due to dust particles, flash anomalies, water particles and so on,' says Prof Heinemann.


'But I was sufficiently intrigued that I returned to the room in which the pictures were taken, in the hope of finding an explanation - like a mirror in the background. None was forthcoming.'

Nor could he find any faults with his wife's camera. And as a scientist with considerable experience in sophisticated microscope techniques - examining matter down to atomic levels of optical resolution - his methods were nothing if not rigorous.

Still puzzled, Heinemann set out to discover what else might have caused the mysterious circles. He and his wife began taking hundreds of digital photographs at random events to see whether they could recreate the mysterious effect.

The answer was that they could make these shimmering 'orbs' appear again, but only - absurd as it may sound - if they 'asked' the apparitions to make themselves visible to the camera. And they found this method worked particularly well when the couple photographed spiritual gatherings.

What on earth was going on? Again, a maverick technical glitch seemed the obvious answer. Such anomalies happen frequently in digital photography. If you accidentally jog a camera while a picture is being taken, especially in dim light, you can easily get a double image.

But again, Prof Heinemann ruled out a technical fault. 'We were quickly able to eliminate the common problems associated with photography - such as dust particles, water droplets, reflections and a host of other likely causes.'

Yet the orbs still kept appearing. And the more images he took, the more he was able to study the bizarre properties of these shimmering lights.

Heinemann set up dozens of experiments using two cameras on static tripods under controlled conditions. His early experiments found that orbs can move very fast, up to 500mph or more.

Heinemann also found that during his numerous dual camera experiments, when he used twin cameras to capture an object from two different angles, a single orb shape would often appear - but only in one of the two images taken simultaneously.

It was as if the orbs somehow chose which camera to appear on, or whether to appear at all.

Eventually, Heinemann was left with only one conclusion: that he was witnessing some form of paranormal intelligence.

'There is no doubt in my mind that the orbs may well be one of the most significant "outside of this reality" phenomena mankind has ever witnessed,' says Professor Heinemann.

'Until now, there has been a huge amount of anecdotal evidence that the spirit world exists. I believe it's no longer anecdotal. Thanks to digital technology, we can see it for the first time. We are dealing with a non-physical - albeit real - phenomenon.'

The temptation, of course, is to dismiss such claims as bunkum. Indeed, many of Professor Heinemann's colleagues consider his
research to be 'utter flaky nonsense'.

And yet a growing number of respectable scientists refuse to write off the possibility that these orbs, which are starting to appear on cameras around the world, just might offer a fascinating glimpse into the unknown.

Earlier this year, the world's first conference on orbs took place in Sedona, Arizona, where several scientists controversially stated that they believed orbs were indeed a genuine paranormal phenomenon.

Their conclusions, if correct, could have huge implications on the way we view the universe and our part in it. The experts say that just because something has not yet been scientifically proven, it doesn't mean that it is not real.

Professor William Tiller, a theoretical physicist who spent 35 years researching consciousness and matter at Stanford University in California, reminded the conference that what we see with our physical eyes comprises less then 10 per cent of the known universe.

This is because human vision operates only within a limited range of the electromagnetic spectrum. For instance, we cannot see radio waves, which carry huge amounts of information, yet we know they exist.

Similarly, Miceal Ledwith, a former professor of Theology, who for ten years was President of Maynooth College at the National University of Ireland, reminded the sceptics that when, in 1861, Dr Ignaz Semmelweis had claimed there might be some unseen link between surgeons who didn't wash their hands and the high rate of infection in childbirth, his mainstream colleagues ridiculed him.

Yet he had found the first evidence of what was later to become known as bacteria.

'Most great discoveries throughout history have been initially ridiculed,' Ledwith told the orbs conference. 'To my mind, there is no doubt that the orb phenomenon is real and deserves to be taken seriously. There are not just a few pictures of orbs, which could easily be faked, but hundreds of thousands from all over the world.'

To date, Ledwith, who was also a member of the International Theological Commission at the Vatican, has a collection of more than 100,000 orb pictures .

'They come in all sizes, ranging from a few inches to several feet across,' he says. 'Sometimes they appear alone, and at other times hundreds of them, in colours ranging from white to blue, green, rose and even gold.

'Over time, I realised that a flash seemed to be essential to capture them, even in daylight. I believe this is because we can see the orbs only through the process in physics known as fluorescence. The camera flash sparks this fluorescence process, making the orbs visible to the camera.'

Ledwith is still uncertain about what these orbs might actually be, but he has no doubt that they are some sort of paranormal apparition.

'I believe they could be many things. They may turn out to be the spirits of those who have passed on; or, as some spiritual teachers state, they might be spirits waiting to be born into a physical body,' says Ledwith.

'They may also be, or represent, a host of other intelligences - from nature spirits to beings of pure energy that have never been incarnated in a physical form. There are hundreds of different types of orb.'

Many of the scientists at the conference believe the orbs are plasma-like balls of energy - but an energy that can be detected by physical means, and which appears to have some control over its own shape and form.

It's certainly the case that they can often be photographed best at places of psychic significance. 'They definitely seem drawn to spiritualtype gatherings,' says Ledwith.

'We regularly see orbs near healers' hands or heads. Perhaps they assist in the spiritual healing process.'

Take the case of Anna Donaldson, a freelance photographer who was commissioned to take pictures of Keith Watson, a medium who had been drafted in to help solve the disappearance of Sarah Payne, the little girl who was snatched while playing near her grandparents' home in West Sussex seven years ago.

The shoot took place at the exact spot where Sarah was last seen, because the medium had suggested that he 'might pick something up'. Sure enough, when the pictures were developed, a mysterious glowing dot appeared in one of the crucial images.

'I didn't believe in any of this paranormal stuff,' says Anna, 'but I couldn't find any fault with the camera - if there had been, then all the images would have been tainted, not just one of them.'

Still sceptical, Anna had the film and images analysed for technical faults, but again no one could provide a logical answer - until a member of the Psychic Institute suggested that the pictures could indeed be evidence of 'auras'. In this case, Anna was told that the blueish colour of the orb suggested the presence of a very young soul.

Still intrigued, Anna arranged to photograph Watson again - at the exact spot from where another young child had disappeared, this time in Greece. To her astonishment, the photographs again showed the presence of a blue orb.

And when Anna repeated the shoot the next day, in a bid to rule out a trick of the light, she got the same result - only this time it was two orange orbs.

'So what I now had was pictures of orbs from three different cameras, in two different countries, on three different days - there's simply no way that could be a chance occurrence or a technical fault,' says Anna.

'I still don't know what to think about it, but I suppose because a camera can pick up an image at a shutter speed of 1/2,000 of a second, it's possible it can detect things the naked eye cannot see.'

Could it have been the spirits of the lost children?

Terri Caldwell, a healer from Belbroughton, in Worcestershire, is among those who are convinced that orbs are a visible manifestation of human spirits.

'To my mind, the orbs are the spirit world simply going about their business,' she says. 'I believe we are all spirits having a physical experience, and when we die our energy field which carries all the information about us continues on.'

But not everyone is convinced. Gary Schwartz, Professor of Psychiatry at Arizona University, has conducted many experiments into orbs with the help of optical scientist Katherine Creath and remains sceptical.

'We feel that a large majority of so-called orb pictures are too readily attributed to some form of paranormal phenomena when, in fact, stray reflections in uncontrolled environments often produce orb-like images,' he says.

That does not deter those, like Miceal Ledwith, who feel orbs are simply too widespread to be written off as a misunderstanding. 'The orbs are an everyday part of reality, as much as we are,' he maintains. 'Their world may be as real as ours, but exists on higher frequencies.

'If you change your TV channel, you switch to different frequencies, which contain different information. It's illogical to think that what we cannot see is not real, because the human eye is able to receive only a very narrow part of the light spectrum. Many animals can see in spectrums invisible to us.'

As Professor Heinemann summarised: 'Research into orbs is only in its infancy. But the photographs of these spirit emanations offer evidence - as close to scientific proof as we have ever come - in proving the existence of spiritual reality.'


- Klaus Heinemann's and Miceal Ledwith's book, The Orb Project, will be published by Simon & Schuster in November
GeneBrowne
Anukis ... You chose a good time to post this article. Very nice read indeed. And we still have people saying there is no proof. Even though I'm not a huge fan of orbs you have made a very good post, I tip my hat to you. When are people going to realize there is proof. I don't know whats worse sometimes... choosing to believe or being too stubborn not to.


Cheers,

Gene
Jjbreen
Or - they could be dirty lenses, dust, lense glare, lense flare or lense reflection. Which is likely more the case.

Yesterday - due to another thread on this topic I called three local camera shops. Do you know the average camera owner never thinks of actually cleaning their cameras? Outside or inside. They do not think about the fact that dust and that film you see on your house windows and cars - also builds up on your camera, inside and out.

Just some food for thought.
GeneBrowne
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jul 26 2007, 07:11 PM) *
Or - they could be dirty lenses, dust, lense glare, lense flare or lense reflection. Which is likely more the case.

Yesterday - due to another thread on this topic I called three local camera shops. Do you know the average camera owner never thinks of actually cleaning their cameras? Outside or inside. They do not think about the fact that dust and that film you see on your house windows and cars - also builds up on your camera, inside and out.

Just some food for thought.



You are also very right Jj ... there are more cases of just dirty lenses than there are actual orb photographs. But ... as it said, they checked the camera for inperfections, and I hope being who these people are they made aure to wip off the lense lol... it wouldn't be much of an experiment if it wasn't sterile. If they never, well ... it's just dust on the lense.

Cheers Jj --> oh and I think I read your biopsy went well??

Gene
Sweetpumper
QUOTE(Jjbreen @ Jul 26 2007, 06:11 PM) *
Yesterday - due to another thread on this topic I called three local camera shops.


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