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goldsteincollection
Hi, I've just started to hear my dead grandfather's voice through a vintage radio he used to listen to. Any advice on how to mantain periodic communications? An insiders view will be much appreciated.

I also started a weblog (www.goldsteincollection.com) where I write down the details of all the events regarding these strange EVP.

Regards,

Matt
She-ra
Hmmmm, very interesting post; however, I am not knowledgable enough to help you with this topic. I'm sure someone who is will be by shortly. WELCOME to U-M!! original.gif Jody
hewak
Well if he's talking to you through your radio, then that means that he's broadcasting a sound wave through the receiver and so on so that you can hear it. Basically your grandfather is using EVP to contact you. To get a clearer message, you'll have to tune the radio into a channel with very little distrubance from other broadcasts, so find a channel that is farthest away from any of your local radio stations, probably at the beginning or end of the dial, I believe AM will give you a stronger signal. Since your grandfather is selective and using something related to him (his radio), if you are able to contact him, try convincing him to use the television. The same thing is done here, except you'll have to put your television on an AIR setting as opposed to cable or CATV. Just tune to a channel that is not disrupted by any other stations, and you'll get something if he cooperates.

If communicating back to him doesn't appear to work, try buying a microphone and broadcasting on an empty channel like he is, it might able him to hear you through that channel. That's all I can really add. Post again in the morning.
JustNormal
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Jul 22 2007, 04:21 AM) *
Hi, I've just started to hear my dead grandfather's voice through a vintage radio he used to listen to. Any advice on how to mantain periodic communications? An insiders view will be much appreciated.

I also started a weblog (www.goldsteincollection.com) where I write down the details of all the events regarding these strange EVP.

Regards,

Matt


Hi Matt, and I am so sorry for your loss. The "white noise" is very common and many times they really dont make a great deal of sense whether you try an EVP or not. I would keep it simple for both your sakes, and pray for his soul, and tell him when radio is on something like "I love you and miss you and I know you feel the same, but its okay to move on, its OK" pray outloud and let him go. The more you listen the more HE thinks you need him, so give him your approval that he does not have to stick around. You certainly dont want him Earthbound, lost or stuck, because he is concerned about you or confused. Then he will rest in peace. God Bless..JN
Lonecat
Hi, I've just started to hear my dead grandfather's voice through a vintage radio he used to listen to. Any advice on how to mantain periodic communications? An insiders view will be much appreciated.

This sounds fascinating. Consider yourself very lucky indeed. As far as any advice from me is concerned, I can't think of anything along a technical line to suggest regarding your efforts to respond to your grandfather but one idea has occurred to me. It may sound a bit way out, but here it is: presumably your grandfather is aware that you have access to his old radio and this suggests to me that he can see you and hear you. I think you could try all methods of response that have been suggested so far but you could also try writing out messages in large letters on a large piece of paper or on one of those portable "whiteboards" kids often use for writing exercises. As you write, read the words out loud and concentrate on your message as strongly as you can. You could also have a tape-recorder going at the same time. One question. Is the radio in question plugged into the mains? Or do these messages come through without power? While trying to respond to your grandfather you should ask him if he can see you or what he thinks the best means of contacting him might be. Good luck to you and to him! wink2.gif
Cdt_Lovekamp_US_ARMY_ROTC
huh interesting like to hear more about it but know little on the subject talk ill check back soon
Barek Halfhand
Is it a 'solid state' radio?......B






halfhandshuffle:system of a down-nuguns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbSxI85l9f8




goldsteincollection
Hi to all and thanks for your comments. I'll try to answer each below:

To Hewak:

QUOTE(hewak @ Jul 22 2007, 01:58 AM) *
To get a clearer message, you'll have to tune the radio into a channel with very little distrubance from other broadcasts, so find a channel that is farthest away from any of your local radio stations, probably at the beginning or end of the dial, I believe AM will give you a stronger signal.


After my grandfather's passing the radio was completely detuned. It doesn't work anymore in a "normal" way (i.e. you can't tune any radio station now, you only hear white noise whithin all the spectrum).


To JustNormal:

QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 22 2007, 04:22 AM) *
The more you listen the more HE thinks you need him, so give him your approval that he does not have to stick around.


Thanks for your kind words... The other day he said very clearly "Listen!" and then his voice vanished. I wonder if he have an important message to deliver. Maybe regarding the mysterious circumstances of his death, two weeks ago. I don't know...


To Lonecat:

QUOTE(Lonecat @ Jul 22 2007, 06:57 AM) *
Is the radio in question plugged into the mains? Or do these messages come through without power? While trying to respond to your grandfather you should ask him if he can see you or what he thinks the best means of contacting him might be. Good luck to you and to him! wink2.gif


The radio is battery operated and, yes, it was turned on the three times I listened to his voice. In our first communication my grandfather answer directly to my call, after I felt his presence in the room. So I'm almost sure that there is a two way communication going on. You can read the details here: http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/3


To Barek Halfhand:

QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 22 2007, 01:40 PM) *
Is it a 'solid state' radio?......B


Yes, it's a solid state. I took a picture of the radio. It's a Spica. Check it out:

http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/5


Best regards to all and thanks again for your help.

Matt
Cdt_Lovekamp_US_ARMY_ROTC
try to communicate back by using a mic sound like it could work who knows lol
Barek Halfhand
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Jul 22 2007, 05:17 PM) *
http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/3
To Barek Halfhand:
Yes, it's a solid state. I took a picture of the radio. It's a Spica. Check it out:

http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/5
Best regards to all and thanks again for your help.

Matt
Just AM/FM ? no funky short wave bands right? (I just see AM on the dial).....from what I see so far, your radio is considered prime gear for ITC....B

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irish girl
be friendly and kind towards the spirit. Then when you get the nerve ask him to move on and tell him how much better it would be if he just MOVED ON. and if you don't want him to leave tell him so. i wish i still had a Grandfather.
Kriven
From your blog, it sounds like maybe he wanted you to talk into the phone?
Threepwud
If the radio doesn't work and gives out nothing but white noise... then why were you listening to it in the first place?
Bogeyman
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Jul 22 2007, 05:21 AM) *
Hi, I've just started to hear my dead grandfather's voice through a vintage radio he used to listen to. Any advice on how to mantain periodic communications? An insiders view will be much appreciated.

I also started a weblog (www.goldsteincollection.com) where I write down the details of all the events regarding these strange EVP.

Regards,

Matt



Check out the work of Marcello Bacci who's been using old radios for years to communicate using evp.
http://www.aaevp.com/articles/articles_about_itc5.htm

For good general advice on EVP and ITC go here

www.worlditc.org
www.aaevp.com

As a matter of interest what's he been saying to you and how clear are the communications.......have you tried taping them and playing the back later ?
goldsteincollection
Hi again to all. I'll try to answer each message:

To Grim_Reaper_Death:
QUOTE(Grim_Reaper_Death @ Jul 22 2007, 07:20 PM) *
try to communicate back by using a mic sound like it could work who knows lol

It seems that my grandfather can hear me. During our first communication through EVP he answered directly to my question...

To Barek:
QUOTE(Barek Halfhand @ Jul 22 2007, 07:36 PM) *
Just AM/FM ? no funky short wave bands right? (I just see AM on the dial).....from what I see so far, your radio is considered prime gear for ITC....B

Yes, it's a plain old AM personal radio (no short wave, not even FM). He used to listen to this radio every night, for years.

To Kriven:
QUOTE(Kriven @ Jul 23 2007, 05:48 AM) *
From your blog, it sounds like maybe he wanted you to talk into the phone?

Oh... Good point... I didn't think that... But the fact is that the phone did not ring again (well, it rung, but for normal communications) and I heard mi granfather's voice a couple of times afterwards coming directly from the radio...

To Threepwud:
QUOTE(Threepwud @ Jul 23 2007, 09:12 AM) *
If the radio doesn't work and gives out nothing but white noise... then why were you listening to it in the first place?

The radio was working fine until the day my grandfather died. Then, one week later of his passing away, I turned on the radio just to fill the house with the usual sounds I've been hearing every day while he was alive, but the Spica didn't work as always: it gave me nothing but white noise.

Best regards,

Matt
JustNormal
Hi Matt, As I said they can and do communicate via electricity, water or any form of communcation they see fit. I heard white noise on my alarm clock and even when I unplugged it, I still heard it. So does not matter about the channel it was on, or frequency, they always find a way. So he had something to say or wanted to say and that is wonderful..JN- yes.gif
She-ra
This is VERY COOL! Are you recording these??? I can't wait to hear more. Good Luck! original.gif Jody
goldsteincollection
Hi again...

Bogeyman, thanks for your links. I've just started to read the texts and they are much helpful. You can find all my grandfather's messages in the weblog: www.goldsteincollection.com, look under the Messages category. Regarding the clearness of his communications: it tends to vary, but I don't know according to what; last time he delivered a very neat message, but our communication before was sort of interrupted with a gasp and several waves of increasing white noise levels.


To She-ra:

QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 23 2007, 04:33 PM) *
This is VERY COOL! Are you recording these??? I can't wait to hear more. Good Luck! original.gif Jody


He talked again yesterday. Here you can read what happened: http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/9. It seems that he has some sort of message for me, but, unfortunately, I can't figure out what's its meaning...

I'll try to tape or record our communications. If I have any results I'll post them here.

Best regards to all,

Matt
sixxx
I want to hear recordings!
JustNormal
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Jul 24 2007, 03:43 PM) *
Hi again...

Bogeyman, thanks for your links. I've just started to read the texts and they are much helpful. You can find all my grandfather's messages in the weblog: www.goldsteincollection.com, look under the Messages category. Regarding the clearness of his communications: it tends to vary, but I don't know according to what; last time he delivered a very neat message, but our communication before was sort of interrupted with a gasp and several waves of increasing white noise levels.
To She-ra:
He talked again yesterday. Here you can read what happened: http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/9. It seems that he has some sort of message for me, but, unfortunately, I can't figure out what's its meaning...

I'll try to tape or record our communications. If I have any results I'll post them here.

Best regards to all,

Matt


Hi again Matt, As I said, the more you listen and record, the more he will remain Earthbound. PLUS you cannot say with all surety it is your Grandfather. I have a feeling there is more to this, than meets the eye. As I said, when they do speak they normally say one or two words, and many times they dont make a whole lot of sense. If indeed it is him, he may not know he has passed on, which is not a true comfort here. Normally when humans pass, they will pop in every now and then to watch over loved ones. It has not been long enough for him to manifest himself to the point to talking. I dunno I just dont feel comfortable with the white noise or messages. Lastly if you are recording these, why post the words, why not post the EVP'S? I just dont have a good feeling about this, something is not right...JN
coldethyl
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 24 2007, 01:07 PM) *
I just dont have a good feeling about this, something is not right...JN


I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Amnesiac
isn't this the premise of a really bad movie starring michael keaton?? unsure.gif
Sweetpumper
QUOTE(Amnesiac @ Jul 24 2007, 08:13 PM) *
isn't this the premise of a really bad movie starring michael keaton?? unsure.gif


Mulitplicity?

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hewa
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 24 2007, 02:07 PM) *
Hi again Matt, As I said, the more you listen and record, the more he will remain Earthbound. PLUS you cannot say with all surety it is your Grandfather. I have a feeling there is more to this, than meets the eye. As I said, when they do speak they normally say one or two words, and many times they dont make a whole lot of sense. If indeed it is him, he may not know he has passed on, which is not a true comfort here. Normally when humans pass, they will pop in every now and then to watch over loved ones. It has not been long enough for him to manifest himself to the point to talking. I dunno I just dont feel comfortable with the white noise or messages. Lastly if you are recording these, why post the words, why not post the EVP'S? I just dont have a good feeling about this, something is not right...JN


I'm just neutral on this subject, I don't agree or disagree with you on this one but how did you come to these conclusions of the behaviour of the afterlife and it's existance? Like I usually say: Any sources?
Shankpin
QUOTE(hewa @ Jul 24 2007, 10:00 PM) *
I'm just neutral on this subject, I don't agree or disagree with you on this one but how did you come to these conclusions of the behaviour of the afterlife and it's existance? Like I usually say: Any sources?


What about a source- What's considered validated source on the subject, for God, sakes? Personal experience is a source on it's own!

& I do agree with JN on this one... it doesn't seem quite right.
JustNormal
QUOTE(hewa @ Jul 25 2007, 03:00 AM) *
I'm just neutral on this subject, I don't agree or disagree with you on this one but how did you come to these conclusions of the behaviour of the afterlife and it's existance? Like I usually say: Any sources?



I have as many sources as anyone has, it's called experience. First of all, we have not heard one thing such as an EVP from him, and that is not to say its not true. Secondly even if we did, how would anyone know it was him? White noise many times is not a human spirit, as they pass on I believe they go into another demension. If a person has died, and wants to communicate with a loved one, initially they come to us in dreams, or we might see them for a split second, or get a scent that allows us to know they are close by and at times they show up in a photo. But traditionally white noise comes from either spirits who are lost, confused, Earthbound, stuck, trapped between 2 dimensions, or its of the demonic nature. Listening to EVP's seems to most to be alot of fun, but in reality it isnt, nor do I personally find it a comfort. If I were to hear my late Mother ask for help or something on an EVP I would be horrified knowing she is not resting in peace. These are disembodied voices, that are extremely disturbing and frightening. They dont have vocal cords so we cannot tell a male from a female. The stories are fun to read, people love to record them, but think of ultimately comes out of these? Its been my experience that any disembodied voice is not good, regardless of what the average person believes. Our loved ones would never terrorize, harm or scare us, other things would. I am no expert on the afterlife, who is? I just have a feeling what this guy is hearing is not good. That is my conclusion and personal opinion. JN
JustNormal
QUOTE(Sunni @ Jul 25 2007, 03:20 AM) *
What about a source- What's considered validated source on the subject, for God, sakes? Personal experience is a source on it's own!

& I do agree with JN on this one... it doesn't seem quite right.



Exactly, thanks ((Sunni))
She-ra
You know, the more I read this thread the more t's beginning to scare me. That is so true JN about how a loved one connects to you. (I of all people can attest to the small notions).

I'm concerned Matt. It may not be your granfather but something that is using HIS WAYS to get to you. I would suggested to always surround yourself with protection when doing these sessions. Just a thought.

Take care, Jody
JustNormal
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 25 2007, 01:47 PM) *
You know, the more I read this thread the more t's beginning to scare me. That is so true JN about how a loved one connects to you. (I of all people can attest to the small notions).

I'm concerned Matt. It may not be your granfather but something that is using HIS WAYS to get to you. I would suggested to always surround yourself with protection when doing these sessions. Just a thought.

Take care, Jody


I agree Jody, and many times when a close loved one passes, that person opens up a gateway to other things that may not be good. Once we communicate, its like an addiction to continue to listen over again, wait, record, try to make sense out of what is said, and grieving all at the same time. Its a great feeling to think they are still with us, and want to contact us, but in reality it may not be them after all. I say the same thing, protect yourself, while praying for your loved one's soul to rest in peace. JN
Jouster
welcometo UM anyways I haven't a clue on how to do what you asked! sorry!!
hewa
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 25 2007, 02:23 AM) *
I have as many sources as anyone has, it's called experience. First of all, we have not heard one thing such as an EVP from him, and that is not to say its not true. Secondly even if we did, how would anyone know it was him? White noise many times is not a human spirit, as they pass on I believe they go into another demension. If a person has died, and wants to communicate with a loved one, initially they come to us in dreams, or we might see them for a split second, or get a scent that allows us to know they are close by and at times they show up in a photo. But traditionally white noise comes from either spirits who are lost, confused, Earthbound, stuck, trapped between 2 dimensions, or its of the demonic nature. Listening to EVP's seems to most to be alot of fun, but in reality it isnt, nor do I personally find it a comfort. If I were to hear my late Mother ask for help or something on an EVP I would be horrified knowing she is not resting in peace. These are disembodied voices, that are extremely disturbing and frightening. They dont have vocal cords so we cannot tell a male from a female. The stories are fun to read, people love to record them, but think of ultimately comes out of these? Its been my experience that any disembodied voice is not good, regardless of what the average person believes. Our loved ones would never terrorize, harm or scare us, other things would. I am no expert on the afterlife, who is? I just have a feeling what this guy is hearing is not good. That is my conclusion and personal opinion. JN


Personal experience is a source, but how can you use it when you have never personally experienced the after-life, connecting with the living whilst dead, and being able to be completely sure that it is either his grandfather who is trapped (how do you even know he's trapped or unrested or so) or a demon? Have you ever died before, because if not, I find it hard to accept your terms of the nature of what happens after we die, or is it that you are just giving a hypothesis?
JustNormal
QUOTE(hewa @ Jul 26 2007, 03:28 AM) *
Personal experience is a source, but how can you use it when you have never personally experienced the after-life, connecting with the living whilst dead, and being able to be completely sure that it is either his grandfather who is trapped (how do you even know he's trapped or unrested or so) or a demon? Have you ever died before, because if not, I find it hard to accept your terms of the nature of what happens after we die, or is it that you are just giving a hypothesis?


I stated I am no expert in the afterlife, no one is. But I know enough about spirits and EVP's to make that my personal opinion only. I think we all share different views, and have totally different experiences, so we share every bit of that on here. I read every word and whether I agree with a post or not, is neither here nor there, but I do store every bit of knowledge in my memory, in case I ever should need it.The one thing I do know about is EVP's and they are not as cool or fun as most people think they are. The one thing I learned if anything in this life, is EVP's are ugly, and nasty, and for the most part we dont know who is talking to us. Even when asked they dont tell us. The more we listen, the more they gain energy to stay here, and the stronger our need becomes to listen, just like a Ouija board, it can become one's addiction of sorts. Once that line of commication is made, anything and anyone can travel in and take over..If you listen to every EVP on here or YouTube, they are extremely sad. There was people saying things like "Help Me" or "I'm lost" and horrible things like children asking for their Mommies. I have never heard an EVP that was comforting, telling someone they are happy or not in pain any longer, or ones filled with love. They are all disturbing..I am not sure if it is or isnt his Grandfather, I just feel something else could be messing with him during his time of grief..JN


She-ra
QUOTE(JustNormal @ Jul 25 2007, 10:51 AM) *
I agree Jody, and many times when a close loved one passes, that person opens up a gateway to other things that may not be good. Once we communicate, its like an addiction to continue to listen over again, wait, record, try to make sense out of what is said, and grieving all at the same time. Its a great feeling to think they are still with us, and want to contact us, but in reality it may not be them after all. I say the same thing, protect yourself, while praying for your loved one's soul to rest in peace. JN


YES Matt, I would take this to heart; JN is right on here. It's always better to be safe than sorry. Study up on protection. There are threads here on how to do that. Be careful and be AWARE. Take care hun, Jody
JustNormal
QUOTE(She-ra @ Jul 26 2007, 04:09 AM) *
YES Matt, I would take this to heart; JN is right on here. It's always better to be safe than sorry. Study up on protection. There are threads here on how to do that. Be careful and be AWARE. Take care hun, Jody



Very well said- passifier.gif
She-ra
Thanks sweetie. xo, Jody
goldsteincollection
Hi again to all, I've been busy lately but luckily I'm back. I managed to record some EVPs, as you requested. You can listen to them here:

http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/19

I would like to hear your expert opinions. I asume that the technical aspects may not be perfect. I hope to get better on this with each next recording.

I also want to tell you that I started some sort of campaign. As you may already know for what I wrote in my weblog, my grandfather died watching an internet video from youtube. I was able to took one picture of the computer screen, but I have no other information to locate the file he was watching. I know that this video conceals some vital information for me, for it is connected in a way or another with my granfather's passing away. Here you can find the image I'm talking about:

http://www.goldsteincollection.com/archives/23

If you saw the complete footage (or know something about the user who posted it, where was it shoot, etc.) please let me know. Feel free to pass the image to others -friends, family, etc-. Maybe they saw it and can guide me to it.

To perform a blind seach in youtube's database is harder than to find a needle in a haystack. An accurate hint will be a blessing.

Best regards to all,

Matt
Veliska
QUOTE(Grim_Reaper_Death @ Jul 22 2007, 10:20 PM) *
try to communicate back by using a mic sound like it could work who knows lol

Yeah that might work. I remember listening to evps actually done over the phone with the answering machine on...there is actually a website on it. I wish I remembered the link. If I find it I will give it too you.
Regency
I can hear some sounds along with the music on your evp - and if I had to put a sex/age on the voice I would say older man.

I really don't think that what your grandfather was watching would have killed him, though I understand your desire to know what he was watching. I can imagine it's pretty tough for you right now, your grandfathers passing wasn't very long ago.



goldsteincollection
QUOTE(Regency @ Sep 28 2007, 05:46 PM) *
I can hear some sounds along with the music on your evp - and if I had to put a sex/age on the voice I would say older man.

I really don't think that what your grandfather was watching would have killed him, though I understand your desire to know what he was watching. I can imagine it's pretty tough for you right now, your grandfathers passing wasn't very long ago.


Hi Regency. You are right. My grandfather passed away just a couple of months ago. And the feeling of loss is still vivid. Regarding the video, I would say that maybe he saw something that was so scary for him, something that he didn't expect to see there that may induced his death (not caused it). But I really don't know, and that's why I'm trying to find that footage.

Thanks for your comment.
TruBeliever
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Sep 29 2007, 01:13 PM) *
Hi Regency. You are right. My grandfather passed away just a couple of months ago. And the feeling of loss is still vivid. Regarding the video, I would say that maybe he saw something that was so scary for him, something that he didn't expect to see there that may induced his death (not caused it). But I really don't know, and that's why I'm trying to find that footage.

Thanks for your comment.


Having read your threads and the responses before answering, I feel I need to interject something here. As many have already read about me, I have had my own personal experience and I won't bother to repeat it here you can read my thread to get the info. Having said that, I feel compelled to tell you, that caution is STRONGLY adviced. Being that you are working from a state of grief coupled with unanswered questions puts you in a precarious situation. Your need to communicate with your grandfather is so great, that you can be easily fooled into to thinking that it is actually him that is communicating, when the truth is, the entity could be something of a dark nature. My advice is to go to someone, that you feel you can trust, or contact an organization equipped to deal with this situation, and have the Spirit, if indeed is your grandfather, move into the Light of Goodness and Peace. If it is indeed something of a darker nature, then you need to have your house cleansed and blessed. I would hate to see you stumble down that path that I have been down and it is for this reason I am advising you in this way.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever
Veliska
QUOTE(TruBeliever @ Sep 29 2007, 06:37 PM) *
Having read your threads and the responses before answering, I feel I need to interject something here. As many have already read about me, I have had my own personal experience and I won't bother to repeat it here you can read my thread to get the info. Having said that, I feel compelled to tell you, that caution is STRONGLY adviced. Being that you are working from a state of grief coupled with unanswered questions puts you in a precarious situation. Your need to communicate with your grandfather is so great, that you can be easily fooled into to thinking that it is actually him that is communicating, when the truth is, the entity could be something of a dark nature. My advice is to go to someone, that you feel you can trust, or contact an organization equipped to deal with this situation, and have the Spirit, if indeed is your grandfather, move into the Light of Goodness and Peace. If it is indeed something of a darker nature, then you need to have your house cleansed and blessed. I would hate to see you stumble down that path that I have been down and it is for this reason I am advising you in this way.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

I agree with you...spirits can be very tricky at times.
Veliska
sad.gif I am very sorry for your lose.
Harte
QUOTE(goldsteincollection @ Jul 21 2007, 11:21 PM) *
Hi, I've just started to hear my dead grandfather's voice through a vintage radio he used to listen to. Any advice on how to mantain periodic communications?


Invest in a better antenna?
BDK
No offense, but this reeks of a viral marketing campaign (ie: viral video such as lonelygirl15). The use of YouTube as a reference point is key to this - YouTube makes a good load of money off people spending time on the site due to advertising (the more people visit the site, the more advertisers will pay), and a ton of people contacted through webboards (and email spam as this individual has done) and such spending hours searching for this mysterious video ... well hmmm. SCREAMS viral marketing to me.
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