I'd like to try something here but for it to be a valid experiment we would need lots of participation. In a linked article in another thread it has been suggested by researchers that asking for a spirit to appear on camera produces more orb photo's......(i have some subjective evidence of this myself) BUT i was thinking if we could get loads of people to take two photo's of the same place ...a chair ,a wall ...whatever ..
In the first photo ....just snap a spot
In the second photo snap the same spot but think about say a deceased relative and ask them to show up ....
If a lot of people took part it would be interesting......no?
Anyway sign up if your up for it and we can give it a go...
We'd need to verify the results here of course .....someone would need to give us a quick lesson in uploading our photo's for the thread....


ANY TAKERS ?

Sounds interesting to me, my house isn't that haunted, the ghosts kind of keep to themselves until they're messed with. But I'll give it a shot tomorrow or something.

And you can upload to http://www.imageshack.us or http://photobucket.com or something, I think even the attachments on here give a pretty decent sized amount of space for photo uploads.

You dont need a haunted house .....just some dead relatives ....One thing we've all got in common.

I assume a requirmement for the experiment would be to upload two un-edited/cropped/zoomed or processed images - except perhaps a resize?

Exactly

I would say that the most scientific way to do it would be to take two pictures ..one directly after the other.
If enough people took part any trend would show up. It would need honesty though ....
The null hypothesis would be

" Asking for spirits to appear in photo's does not make orbs appear in said photo's"

Our mission then would be to either prove or disprove this theory.

So i see it like this.

1/ You point at a spot take your photo .

2/ You think of one of your passed over relatives that you were close to ,ask them to show up in the photo in the designated spot ....then take your second photo.

We could then do a count on the number taking part and from this the number who may have been successful......I dont think theres any need to post unsuccessful photo's but there would be a need to count them......so for example we might say that out of 100 taking part 10 or 15 were successful.
This can then be statistacally analysed to see how likely the request was to influence the result.
Scientists and Statisticians .....dont get on your high horses now it's ony an experiment.
Bogey

NOBODY will do that ...
This is an objective experiment (I'm in) ...I am interested in the results....B


the Halfmungus will not be deprived....

Was just testing my new camera anyway, so thought i might aswell try this. I had no luck getting any orbs, i have never had any orbs in any photos before either actually, at least not any that were noticable.

Since i didnt get any orbs, i'll just post links to the photos instead of posting them here. Maybe someone with better eyes than me, can spot anything

photo 1

photo 2

Thats the idea but i would avoid pointing at any reflective surfaces such as glass or chrome .....this way they can't be blamed for any orbs that may appear

hi there

Ive actually done this experiment before but you can count me in for the sake of you experiment will take the pics tonight see what a happens

blessing spiritual_soul79 xoxo

Didnt think of that Well there were no orbs anyway, so cant blame the glass for anything this time

If anyone has done it but not got results ....say so anyway ,this way you can be part of the count for the trial.I'll also give it a go at home tonight.

The reason I took this photo back in January, was because I felt a presence in the room..... the orb is in the lower portion of the speaker...notice the strange reflection above the turntable...I have yet to get a satisfactory (or logical) explanation for the angle of the glare...(it's dark outside btw).....I may try some of this again WITH the turntable included....B



halfhandshuffle:scorpions-he's a woman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGqlC1UZPo

Okay Trial conditions / Rules

Lets make this as objective as can possibly be , do not keep taking photo's of the same spot until you capture something that may be an orb.

Take one Photo without thinking of anything or anyone in particular.

Take your second photo of the same spot but before you do take a few moments to remember some happy memories with a relative you particularly liked and miss.

Ask them to try and show themselves in the photo you're about to take.

Take the photo if nothing shows up....leave it at that ....it's a negative result , just post negative on the thread. If something does show up ....post it here (the photo's) as a positive result.

Okay ?

Bogey

GOT YA LOUD AND CLEAR

Not an orb to be found, and with all those reflective surfaces too. I was surprised.

I'll do it. It'll be sometime this week when I get home from work.

Sounds like fun.

Since i have nothing else to do, why not.

Maybe those orb making spirits are afraid of me?

I have done an experiment where I took the same pictures multiple times with a digital camera. With lights on/off and flash on/off. Then done after beating a piece of furniture senseless to stir up dirt..... and surprise surprise.... there are more orbs when you stir up dust. Orbs seem to mostly appear with the flash on and more are produced with the lights in the room off. And a side note is that the placement and amount of "orbs" produced in a room could constantly change because there are thousands of dust particles floating in rooms.... all the time. I wish that I could say that photographs were really a way to see spiritual things, but they're really just good ways of producing light anomalies.

Hey Bogeyman, I'm game. I would suggest though - that people use a tripod or set the camera on a solid table or base. So that motion is limited as much as is possible. Also that they avoid areas w/windows, mirrors, glass picture frames and such. As this can create false orbs.
I'll do this tonight w/my Nikon 995 w/thinking of my mom, who died when I was 13. I will post the results tomorrow.

I will do it too, tonight, when there is no one here but me. I will ask my mom to pose for a picture.

I get lots of orbs when I take pictures of my yard and inside of the house. I always find that, well, most times, that it is a reflection that causes it. I will post some pictures showing why later on.

I don't think orbs are a very good measure of the paranormal. Even if you take 5 pictures of the same thing with five different cameras, you could pick up dust or such in only one or two of them, thus giving you "orbs".

I'll do it!! I'll take a couple pictures in my home, then later in the week I'll take some more at my parents "haunted" house... maybe I can get another photo of the "creepy old man" I've seen there many times.

Ok, first attempt: NADA.

Here are two pictures. The wooden spoon is something that my mother got as a special gift - she really like it. So there is a emotional attachment to it with her. She died when I was 13, some 40 yrs ago.

I covered anything and everything that could carry a reflection on it.
I turned out the light so the room was totally dark - so only the flash from my Nikon 995 digital camera was lighting the room:

1st pic: Test -
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Then picture asking my mom to give a 'sign'.
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Nothing on the picture. I will try again at 10PM and 11PM and maybe 12AM - but not sure I'll stay up that late or not. Have a doctor's appointment tomorrow about lung surgery. At 52, I need my beauty sleep.

I wish i could but my computer doesn,t have upload capabilities, and my camera passed away in it,s sleep not to long ago! But good luck! I,ll be interested in hearing what the results are!

I see what your talking about,looks cool! BTW, I LOVE the Scorpions!

Ok, I took 10 seqential pictures at 10:15 and 11:15 and no orbs. I'll be glad to post the pictures, but they are no different from the ones above.

Like I stated, anything and everything that could even slightly reflect light off was covered. TV, Windows, Pictures - etc. I also cleaned my camera lense to insure no dust or lense flare. I will continue to do so over the next few nights. But I've always thought that these "orbs" were dust and/or lense flare or reflections. When you take steps to insure this, funny thing happens.... No Orbs....

I took two yesterday but saw nothing on the camera screen. I'll wait until after i've put them on the pc to judge because sometimes you'll see things on the pc that you wont see on the camera.......But initial impressions are ......a negative result.

Okay I will show you guys this. I was at my friend Beth's house in Florida that is haunted by the original owner (the whole community is aware of this). Anyway, she invited me down and later hinted to me if I "felt" anything in the house. (she's seen my haunted house). Anyway, I asked to be left totally alone in the house and grabbed my camera. After about 20 minutes of talking to the house (okay I'm psychotic-- SHUT UP) I saw a clear image to the left of me. I stood in one spot of the room, by myself asking it to appear to me and took a series of pictures standing stationary in one spot...one right after the other. Here's what I got:

Orb Image 1

Orb Image 2

Okay I never moved;just click, click, click...
No one else was around me.

What are your thoughts? xo, Jody

NEGATIVE result may give it another go later but im not holding out much hope . I am still of the opinion that they are dusy,moisture light reflections and such but will be interesting to see the results of this thread .

I agree with jj keeping the camera stationary is a must and also covering any reflective surfaces ..

spiitual_soul79

I took pics in a spare room that my kids claim had a ghost in it. I have never seen anything to indicate there was a ghost in there.
I was going to do it last night, but didn't get it done, so I went up there this morning. Since there was light coming in from the window I
didn't use the flash. There was no difference in the 2 pics, but it was daylight, so I thought I might try to do it again tonight. If there is a difference
I will post those pics.

I didn't get a chance to do it last night because we had company from out of town and I was on the phone with Dell.

I'll try and do it tonight.



There's not a set date to do it by is there?

No... just bump the thread up when anyone wants to try it. As a matter of fact forcing it could produce less effective results. If you get a feeling to try it....thats probably the best time.
Bogey

my camera batteries are dead again ....I wonder if I need a charger and rechargable batteries? .......B









halfhandshuffle:Talking Heads -Making Flippy Floppy-live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLB7m_I8mDo

Why is the Response window suddenly almost twice as long? I cannot upload pictures because everything is screwed up. I went to three different computers in the house. Netscape Browser, MS-IE and Firefox. All the same. This is only on this thread.

Because of the size of the picture that She-ra posted. (Sorry She-ra).

No, you need this:





Lock the door
We kill the beast
Kill it

Oops. Can it be re-sized? SORRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!

PS: OKAY I REPORTED MY POST... Hopefully those pic's can be made smaller. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!

Either:

1. You missed the UFO that was overhead; or
2. A genuine paranormal event actually occurred courtesy of the Cosmic Joker

Don't laugh on the second one, weird EM effects affecting camera (and phone) batteries occurred very regularly at crop circle sites - how did the hoaxers do that

Tried some photos tonight, no anomalies to report...

OR I was going to attempt Bogeys' orb experiment as outlined in the OP........funny stuff tho .....B




halfhandshuffle:Dethklok - Dethkompilation
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPyOFQjN03Y

I have to honestly challenge that you did not move between the two pictures, She-ra. The evidence is pretty clear that you did. Please do NOT take this personally. You easily might have forgotten that you moved.

Picture 01:
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Notice the angle and the FOV (Field of View) of what looks to be a "stero or something", with the orange thing on top. The clock the door way and the palm tree. Also notice that we only see the two wall hangings in the other room.... Now for Picture 2

Picture 02
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Notice that first we see A LOT further into the next room, even the lamp at the other end of the other room. The angle of the FOV is totally different and way to significant. One would have to move to see further into the next room that we see in this picture. Plus I have to ask - what happened to the 'stero or something' w/the orange thing in this picture?

Most Respectfully - Jj

Nice mirrror (on right).....B

Oh, a couple of people PM'd me about Orbs and such. They realized that they had NOT taken the steps to remove, glare, flare, reflections and clean lenses. Hmmm.... Now if these are ALL taken into serious and recognized steps of consideration - I cannot help but wonder how much "orb" photos will drop in pictures? Also using a tripod to keep the camera steady.

Okay, I see your points Jj and BH.

I meant to say my feet stayed stationary; like I wasn't walking arount the room. Yes, the camera did move because I move it to where I sense something. I understand your questioning; I didn't make myself clear.

Okay the enhancement. Ummmm, might be the window. This is my friends Beth's house, not mine so I will look into that further. Let me ask you this. If there was a source that far away how could it create what the picture captured? I'm not trying to be a smart a$$...I truly am curious.

Thanks Jody

Edited to add more photos:

Okay here's the shot after the shadow one:


((The orange and pink thing is my Vera Bradley purse. The Black thing is my wallet))

Okay yes, I found this, there is a mirror next to the door and then the windows:





Here's more shots I took that night:





Anyway, Those are my pic's. xo, Jody


Edited today to say: Don't look at the tiny dots in the stall on that last one...LOL...that's Mariah the Clydesdale's EYES. LOL!!

Jody - every play shadow games? Where you can make shadows bigger - longer - smaller and such? I have a feeling that is exacly what this is. Something very natural being effected by lights and mirrors instead of "smoke and mirrors".

Okay. I added more pic's (I think I was editing as you posted this...lol) xo, Jody

Negative results ....(may try again at night).....B







halfhandshuffle:Urge Overkill - Sister Havana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm__hVQXnQo

NEGATIVE again last night for me .

ss79

Negative for me too, after I got into the dark, scary (allegedly haunted) room only to turn the camera on and have the batteries die. Yeah, I tend to creep myself out by thinking about the stories my kids have told (even tho I have never experienced anything in that room).