Submitted by Nigel Watson: A crowd of 100 stunned stargazers brought a town centre to a standstill when five mysterious UFOs were spotted hovering in the sky. Drinkers spilled out of pubs, motorists stopped to gawp and camera phones were aimed upwards as the five orbs, in a seeming formation, hovered above Stratford-Upon-Avon for half an hour. The unidentified flying objects lit up the otherwise clear night sky above Shakespeare's birthplace in Warwickshire on Saturday. Although Air Traffic Control reported no unusual activity, some witnesses were convinced they were witnessing an extra-terrestrial spectacle. The strange episode started just after 10.30pm, when the lights were seen hovering slowly over the town before three of them formed a triangular shape with one positioned just to the right. A few minutes later a fifth came into view travelling towards the others at breakneck speed before slowing down and stopping a short distance away. Sceptics dismissed the UFOs as nothing more than hot air balloons, fireworks or even lanterns which had broken loose from a local rugby club.

Others, however, claimed the speed and agility of the objects was unlike any known aircraft and said the odd movement, lack of noise and the length of time in the air discounted any man-made explanation. Tom Hawkes, who captured these amazing images, spotted the lights during his girlfriend Kate Lyall's birthday at the One Elm pub. He and the 15 other revellers were in the bar when they spotted some commotion outside. Tom, 30, said: "We walked outside and there was at that time a growing crowd of about 60 people looking up at something in the sky. "I saw this light appear, then three others. They came over our heads in formation but then manouvered into different positions. "Three had formed a triangular shape and one was to the right. Then another one came hurtling towards the rest at what looked like a very fast speed. But as it neared them it suddenly slowed and stopped altogether.

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Too me it looks like a glare on the camera, :-P (Im being sarcastic, just a heads up for those who would otherwise attack me) Now that is basicly skeptic proof right there, people are just hard headed and scared to believe we arent as powerful and superior as we want to be.

OMG flying lanterns

Looks real. I wouldn't have been able to take my eyes off the sky for more then a few sec like most in that footage, but what can you do?

There comming. It's going to happen soon.

Hopefully the Moderators will merge this with the existing thread on the topic/sighting

I would like to make clear that the daily mail article states that the nearby rugby club released balloons this is NOT true at all.

Yesterday i personally got in contact with Jim Leach the chairman of the Stratford-Upon-Avon Rugby Club and he assured me that the club released NO balloons of any kind and are not in possesion of these lanterns. However i agree the posibility of this event being lanterns is still a very real one and nobody should be dismissing that as a possible explaination just yet. There are many facts of this case which contradict the lanterns explaination:

1, The amount of time these things were in the air was 30 minutes lanterns only last for a maximum of 10 minutes.

2, The formation of four objects remains stationary in the sky for a long period of time as shown in the video footage available via the daily mails website.

Sam.

This wont convince the public, but it's some of the best proof ive seen yet!
The government will just deny it over and over until enough of the people who actually are smart enought to realise it may not be "laterns" decide to sit back down because its not worth the hassle.

IF the laterns are true one source said they were release days earlier
The laterns that were released were released days earlier by the local rugby club, I dont care what kinda laterns you got they aint gona hang round for days, and the wont stay grouped together.

This video looks very similar to others that are around, eventually people will wake up and realise that these things are too regular, similar and the bs fed to the public is always the same.

The light's clearly form a pattern in the video, and the pic. I can accept that somone can make a bunch of lanterns, tie them together and make these patterns. but they cant make them change formation very easily. The witnesses blow this lantern $hit out of the water by saying that they moved at incredible speed and disappeared over the horizon together

My belief is what these guys are witnessing is an alien ship (the bright solo one) making contact with earth's own ships built on alien technology. The pattern will be a communication, possibly a welcome or signal for the ship to follow them to a safer location for tea and coffee. Obviously some people - even believers are going to find this to swallow, and ive given up trying to convince those who are not ready.

If you really believe this is rockets, lanterns, flares or whatever
give me the reason's and a theory so i can blow it out of the water please, because it's so frustrating to see everyone denying the obvious

We are not alone, the government knows this! to all those that think they don't or they would let us know i ask: why would they tell you and the world? so religions can fight over what the aliens represent? so people who fear them can try to attack them? the fact is they wouldnt tell us, its too dangerous and their job is to protect. So if they are never going to tell us, dont you think its time you start looking for the signs - if you can handle the truth!

so whats it gonna be? the red pill? or the blue?

Here's my problem with "believers", you act as if these images and videos constitute proof of aliens. The fact is, you have absolutely no way of verifying the source of the lights, let alone whether they are extraterrestrial in origin or not. The only thing these images can possibly prove is that the lights are in fact unidentifiable.

Unidentified ≠ Extraterrestrial

That statement is false please see my previous post.

I agree this footage alone does not proove any existance of ET's whatsoever, but by the same token it shows that these event's are being witnessed by masses of people and are being written off as baloon's etc without even taking the witness' desciptions in to account.
It is my belief these are alien's. I obviously do not expect anyone to believe this on this video alone. But when you have spent as much time as I have looking at footage, you see alot of clips hold very similar properties.
What convinces me they are aliens is not the clips, its the history surrounding our ancient past, tesla, the 1940's period, and past anti gravity projects such as those run by the nazi's. Seeing clips like this simply makes me suspect they are ET's
But as you said this is not proof of anything including anything anyone else has offered as explanation, yet there they are...

cool thanks for clearing that up... i wasnt sure, thats why i put the big IF there ;-)

As there is considerable doubt as to the actual date of this event (APRA had original witness reports from 7 days earlier), this conclusion may also be flawed.

Can science proove that a conscience exists? they can show electrical activity or whatever but if we had not experienced a conscience science would never be able to proove exists or moreso if they did we would not understand it. I feel the same about trying to proove ET's are there its hard to proove somthing when ou dont know exactly what it is you are after...

Doesnt really have much to do with anything but the more i beers i have the more wacked my thought's become and this one just hit me, so even tho it doesnt fit right ill chuck it here anyways ;-)

I only live a few miles from Stratford.....how exciting...what-ever the UFO's were.

I wonder if they were seen by people in other surrounding areas? Maybe there will

be something in the local papers.


"ET or not ET, that is the question." ......

ehhh, UFOlogists...

Hmm interesting and strange according to that article it seems these things have been witnessed in other areas

Spyda... I've been on your side in the past. Raptor I currently subscribe to your perspective. It'd be interesting to do a study on b'leever converts to rationalists to skeptics. Cause to me there is a difference IMO, but that's for another thread.

The ONLY thing we know for sure is that there were lights in the sky. Whether they were a distictive pattern or not is really a matter of conjuncture. Cause ANY 4 objects can be seen to have a 'pattern'. There were lights, they lasted a durration, some moved rapidly and it was at night. Those are the facts. Thats it. No conclusions beyond this can be drawn that hold any merit on these facts. Even and especially if only to strengthen an argument.

Reminds me of the pheonix lights. That got explained pretty logically. Yet people swore it was a mothership.

Very Interesting none-the-less. I also like MoD's stance... "it aint our job to investigate past the ruling out of a national threat?... but, good luck guys!"

The phoenix lights have not been explained. Fair enough sightings which only saw lights may have been flares however sightings which occured during the event before the 9pm period could not have been flares as a SOLID object was reported.

Sam.

OK, read the witness accounts and watch the video footage; the witness statements do not tally with what is actually captured by the camcorder, and a camera is not affected by human misperception. The 5th light that approached from the south clearly does not come "hurtling" at "breakneck speed"; the 5 lights do not disappear into the distance together, the original 4 are clearly higher and further away as they drift up on the wind - oops bit of a clue there ;)

That's interesting. I think the truth'll reveal itself soon, whatever it may be.

TeraLink Was Here!

What about the formation. The formation is similar to other UFO formations. Are these lanterns able to be maneuvered? If not then they are not lanterns.

I think some sceptics are in such denial they end up looking like morons. the counter part to the extreame of people who do believe in ufo's.

both lack credibility.

that 5th object came as fast as a plane . pretty fast for a 'balloon' . a plane could explain it all , but the hovering for the length of time becomes a problem. helicoptors ? but then wouldn't they have been plainly heard ? of course they would have.

A group of 4 lights or objects moving randomly could form any number of 'formations' depending on the viewers perspective - I have other original reports (actually from the 14 July) that state these 4+1 lights formed a 'Plough-like' formation (ie the constellation of the Plough/Big Dipper); this is reminiscent of the scenes from Close Encounters, but of course a depiction of the Plough requires 7 lights...
Lanterns are affected by and at the whim of wind and air currents; if you believe that wind and air currents are constant at every given altitude above any place on the ground then you should study meteorology.

I was noting thier triangular shape thats common with UFO light formation.

I watched the video and I didn't see anything moving as fast as a plane. But without knowing the exact altitude they were at you can't accurately determine their speed. They were below the cloud line, so there's a limiting factor. It didn't seem to be moving too fast at all.



I'm curious, how can three points not make a triangle? Unless they're lined up perfectly there's no other shape they can possibly make.

Remember the sighting lasted for a total of 30 minutes we have only seen 3 minutes of footage every single thing each witness explained is not going to be featured in this tiny portion of the sighting.

There were four lights making the triangle in the vid but your point is a valid one.

I was looking for the objects moving fast as well but because of the unsteady camera and maybe the missing footage it doesn't seem to be there.

There is an apparent faster movement as the videographer swings round to pick up the incoming 5th light, but how much of that is down to his panning and zooming (increased magnification means a higher apparent motion/speed); when he zooms out the motion of the 5th light isn't fast.

watch the video of the 5th object before the tree ( which is fairly dark ) - it gives you a fair determination to it's speed. it is moving at least as fast as a plane. planes can fly quite fast below the cloud line .

you forget the point of hovering .

does it coincide with the floods, just a theory but did this happen to say "hey you are thinking to small and you are destroying yourselves"

or

The aliens are running their ufos on our misery, our bad vibes create energy for their engines. just a thought

it struck me - you say they were below the cloud line yet it's stated it was cloudless. how could you know where the cloud line is ? isn't fog nothing more than a cloud ? what is the point as where a cloud can and can't form ?

as for the triangle - is it the proximity to each. me , the so called president and the moon are points that make a triangle , but we have no relation to each - our proximity keeps us from being anything more than accidental.

these aren't accidental.

Interesting, but like everything else--it isn't something that makes me believe aliens are visiting us.

They're lights in the sky. Other than that there isn't much that can be concluded from the footage. I couldn't even tell if they were moving when watching the clip. The one far to the left seemed like it may have been, but the other 4 in the triangular formation I really couldn't tell if they were or not.

The footage would have been much more interesting had it showed these "lights" moving more noticeably in the sky.

If a UFO landed in front of them there would still be sceptics. I believe that they are real and nothing they say will change my mind. I have made up my mind so dont confuse me with facts.

There's no logic behind calling them ETs. However, there is tons of logic in my opinion, to say that SOMETHING odd is going on that we don't know about. The massive and massive amount of eyewitness accounts and pictures/videos such as this one is undeniable evidence that SOMETHING odd is going on in our skies.

I personally think you'd have to be in denial to say that absolutely nothing is going on and that 100% of this phenomena is just natural happenings such as illusions, weather, etc.

Where does it say it was cloudless? In the article it says:

"The objects were there for about half an hour. It was very eerie because they didn't make any sound and they stayed still before moving slowly beyond the horizon. There were no stars in the sky, just them.

No stars suggests that it was cloudy. Not to mention that in the last two weeks England has been plagued by heavy storms, there have been deep floods across the country. Click

If I'm right in saying that there were clouds, the fact that these lights can be seen suggests that they are below the clouds. Low level clouds are typically at an altitude of 7,000ft, this places a limit on how high the object may be. Obviously the lower an object is, the faster it will appear to travel.

Even if it was cloudless, it's still going to be extremely difficult to gauge the altitude of the objects with no reference point.

it really annoys me when people videotape these alleged UFOs and can't seem to stay on the damn thing without zooming in and out and shaking the damn camera, i can understand moving the camera to the other light but jeez just turn a bit instead of going out of focus shaking and then zooming back in

A salute to Shakespeare ?

ahem -



it was a clear night. no clouds. I 've seen jets fly extremal fast at low levels. and the objects hovered in place for about a half hour. so they weren't balloons. planes. fireworks ? lol helicopters ? and no one anywhere heard them ? nonsense.

if one used the tree before the fifth object flew behind it on video , they could actually find the altitude with minimal trouble. they could go back to the same position and triangulate it. it wasn't those people who only saw it. enough data and they can map it out being pretty close to how far these things were. and because of that same tree caculate how fast it was moving.


as for no stars ? when I go Downtown and look up I don't see any stars . even on a clear night.

is this because you need glasses or to much flooded light? i find my eyes deteriorate and cant see the stars like i used to

It really annoys me when people complain about UFO footage. It seems they complain if no footage is presented (no evidence) and they complain when there is footage because its to shakey. Its very hard to keep a camera still without a tripod the video was probably done by a local resident with a small video camera not the BBC news television crew.

Witness reports indicate the sighting lasted anywhere between 10 and 30 minutes (and/or occurred over two separate weekends!), so which is correct?


You are referring to apparent velocity as seen thru the camcorder (with an unknown zoom factor), not an actual velocity as seen by the naked eye. Witnesses describing motion as seen thru a camcorder viewfinder is common; an example is some video footage sent to APRA in 2004 of a "pulsating light" - this light was in fact Venus (which had been visible every night for about 2 months prior to this report), the witness completely failed to notice that street lights were pulsating exactly the same as Venus as he kept zooming in and out with the autofocus also hunting in and out as it desperately tried to lock onto something. Similar poor quality footage has recently been posted for a supposed 'UFO event' in North Wales - a classic example of wild panning and zooming to result in video footage that bears no relationship to the claimed sighting

This Stratford video footage provides no actual evidence of the objects hovering; a balloon in still air will be motionless, it is not exerting force to remain there to hover. Motionless and hovering are not the same action.

Want to see something truly amazing? Take a look at these threads below, which predate this incident. I've been following this "mystic" for about a year now. He posts here on occasion, but I haven't seen him for awhile now. First, here's a better photo and a link to the [video.]

Something to think about also, is the flooding going on in the UK right now is widely reported as the worst in modern times. Shakespeare is best known for his tragic plays, and oddly his hometown is where this curious sighting occurred.

They are here actually ! We are them !

So if you don't believe either one , why are you here ?