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Ashigaru
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I can't wait for this movie.
Talon

I just hope they go the way of Lord of the Rings and not Dungeons & Dragons.

P.S. Who's 'Ewy Ball'?
Never_Hit_Nirvana
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 7 2007, 07:45 AM) *
I just hope they go the way of Lord of the Rings and not Dungeons & Dragons.

P.S. Who's 'Ewy Ball'?

I can't get the video to load, but if they are talking about Uwe Boll to direct it, it will be horrible. He directed such classics as "Alone in the Dark", "BloodRayne" and "House of the Dead". Nobody out there makes a worse movie.
Ashigaru
They haven't picked a director yet but I doubt it will be Uwe Boll. This is the same production company that worked on 300, Batman Begins, and Superman Returns so I have high hopes for this movie.

Another link if anyone else cant get the first to play.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSG2DiejFJ8
jesspy
Hands up who thinks WETA will be on board with this one....*raises hand*

Hands up who thinks Jackson will show interest in directing.....*Raises hand with a little hesitation*

Hands up who thinks this will blow a 200 million dollar budget ..........*raises hand*

Hands up if you think this will go the way of Halo and get thrown out in a few months........*raises both hands*

My best bet this will not be live action. it will more then likely be a direct to DVD CGI animated movie or at worst turned into a TV series
Talon
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Hands up who thinks this will blow a 200 million dollar budget ..........*raises hand*


The budgets only $100 million

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Hands up if you think this will go the way of Halo and get thrown out in a few months........*raises both hands*


Doubt it, they seem to be running full steam with it.


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My best bet this will not be live action. it will more then likely be a direct to DVD CGI animated movie or at worst turned into a TV series


No, they specifically say it will be live action
Ashigaru
QUOTE(jesspy @ Aug 8 2007, 05:11 AM) *
Hands up if you think this will go the way of Halo and get thrown out in a few months........*raises both hands*
They've been working on this for years so I doubt they'll just throw it out.
jesspy
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 8 2007, 10:57 PM) *
The budgets only $100 million


theyll blow that in two days

but yeah i cant see this working as live action maybe as a CGi movie it would work better. But hey I thought Final Fantasy ould work as CGI and it sucked
Ashigaru
Each of the LotR movies had about a $100 millon budget. I don't see how a WoW movie would need twice that.
Talon
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but yeah i cant see this working as live action maybe as a CGi movie it would work better. But hey I thought Final Fantasy ould work as CGI and it sucked


I though Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children was really really good personally, certainly better than Spirits Within

Anyway, Lord of the Rings was a live-action fantasty and it was one of the greatest movies ever made, so WOW could be as well.....only problem is LOTRs was based on one of the greatest books ever written so it had a head start.
Cadetak
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 10 2007, 06:33 PM) *
I though Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children was really really good personally, certainly better than Spirits Within

Anyway, Lord of the Rings was a live-action fantasty and it was one of the greatest movies ever made, so WOW could be as well.....only problem is LOTRs was based on one of the greatest books ever written so it had a head start.


Advent Children was a fan service...if you weren't a fan you had no idea what the hell was going on in the movie...and even then I still didn't know what the hell was going on.

Is the Warcraft story good enough for a movie? Can it translate well?(don't know anything about it)

Just because Warcraft is a fantasy world and LOTRs is a fantasy world doesn't mean that Warcraft will end up as good as LOTR.

On paper it sounds good...so did Fantastic Four. Take some of the most famous comics in history, with some of the best storylines and characters in the industry, and it should turn out like X-Men or Spider-man right? No because people who don't know what their doing or how to handle things will screw it all up.

Hell the Dungeons and Dragons movie should have theoretically bin like a LOTRs movie.

Talon
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Advent Children was a fan service...if you weren't a fan you had no idea what the hell was going on in the movie...and even then I still didn't know what the hell was going on.


It was the sequal to Final Fantasy VII, what did you expect? Most sequals require you to watch the first one. Try watching The Two Towers without watching Fellowship of the Ring and you'd be confused too.


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Is the Warcraft story good enough for a movie? Can it translate well?(don't know anything about it)


The warcraft story is based over forty odd years of war (thousands if you take in the exdended history), sure why not - certainly better ideas for a movie than Monopoly

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Just because Warcraft is a fantasy world and LOTRs is a fantasy world doesn't mean that Warcraft will end up as good as LOTR.


No, but it should mean people should stop complaining it can't work as a movie, when fantasy movies can be good.

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On paper it sounds good...so did Fantastic Four. Take some of the most famous comics in history, with some of the best storylines and characters in the industry, and it should turn out like X-Men or Spider-man right? No because people who don't know what their doing or how to handle things will screw it all up.


Warcraft is about the ongoing war between the Alliance (Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, Dreani, and their allies such as the few remaining High Elves etc) and the Horde (Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, Undead, and Blood Elves) for the lands of Azoroth, while in the North the Lich King threatens to sweep down and kill both sides, in the south the Silithid threaten to eat them all, and the deamonic Burning Legion threaten to blow the entire planet up. ... you have to wonder given all the common threats, why the Horde and Alliance just can't get along.

... and trust me, its not like the Fantastic Four, X-Men or Spider-man. Good or bad, it will be aimed at a different audience and have a completely different feel.

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Hell the Dungeons and Dragons movie should have theoretically bin like a LOTRs movie.


They mention D&D in the interview (although not by name), and describe it as a rushed movie simply made to cash in on the franchise. D&D was made for the Xena generation, these guys seem to realise true fantasty fans want movies like LOTR which return to the days of Willow etc when fantasty was serious. It might not be a fantastic movie, but at least they're starting out with the right mind set.


In the end its being made by the same people who did 300 and Batman Begins, and those were great. People, rather than moaning at the mere mention of the movie, lets wait until it comes out and then moan if we have to.
jesspy
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 11 2007, 08:33 AM) *
I though Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children was really really good personally, certainly better than Spirits Within

Anyway, Lord of the Rings was a live-action fantasty and it was one of the greatest movies ever made, so WOW could be as well.....only problem is LOTRs was based on one of the greatest books ever written so it had a head start.


I was talking about spirits within just so you know havent seen advent

QUOTE(Cadetak47 @ Aug 11 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Is the Warcraft story good enough for a movie? Can it translate well?(don't know anything about it)

Just because Warcraft is a fantasy world and LOTRs is a fantasy world doesn't mean that Warcraft will end up as good as LOTR.

On paper it sounds good...so did Fantastic Four. Take some of the most famous comics in history, with some of the best storylines and characters in the industry, and it should turn out like X-Men or Spider-man right? No because people who don't know what their doing or how to handle things will screw it all up.

Hell the Dungeons and Dragons movie should have theoretically bin like a LOTRs movie.



Thats the problem with games and a few comics they lack the substance needed to be turned to film. People can make movies and base them on the game but there is no way you can get a word for word translation because there are just too many people who dont read the comic or play the game. Millions of people read the LOTR series hence a biigger fan base.Theres more substance more direction in books aswell and its just 1 persons writing or whatever. With games especially one like WOW you have got people playing it Hoping that when they see the movie they can say hey yeah I remember doing that in the game, and it just doesnt work.
I have heard about WOW I admit i have never played it but from what i have seen I still dont believe live action will do it justice
Ashigaru
QUOTE(jesspy @ Aug 11 2007, 10:22 PM) *
I was talking about spirits within just so you know havent seen advent
That wasn't a bad movie, it just wasn't Final Fantasy.

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Thats the problem with games and a few comics they lack the substance needed to be turned to film. People can make movies and base them on the game but there is no way you can get a word for word translation because there are just too many people who dont read the comic or play the game. Millions of people read the LOTR series hence a biigger fan base.Theres more substance more direction in books aswell and its just 1 persons writing or whatever. With games especially one like WOW you have got people playing it Hoping that when they see the movie they can say hey yeah I remember doing that in the game, and it just doesnt work.
Warcrafts backstory is very well developed. There are also over 1.5 million people playing WoW and millions of others who played the previous warcraft games. They've already said it takes place before the events of WoW so if WoW players have been paying attention to it they will know things they've done ingame wont happen in the movie, at least not in the first one.
AztecInca
Well this has definately gotten my attention. I am a massive fan of the earlier warcraft games and fantasy books and movies. This will obviously be right up my alley and if its half as good as LOTR then it will be worth the price of admission. I`ve been longing for a maturre fantasy epic ever since the LOTR movies came to an end, here's hoping it goes the way of LOTR rather than D&D. thumbsup.gif
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Cadetak
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 11 2007, 05:14 AM) *
It was the sequal to Final Fantasy VII, what did you expect? Most sequals require you to watch the first one. Try watching The Two Towers without watching Fellowship of the Ring and you'd be confused too.
The warcraft story is based over forty odd years of war (thousands if you take in the exdended history), sure why not - certainly better ideas for a movie than Monopoly
No, but it should mean people should stop complaining it can't work as a movie, when fantasy movies can be good.
Warcraft is about the ongoing war between the Alliance (Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, Dreani, and their allies such as the few remaining High Elves etc) and the Horde (Orcs, Tauren, Trolls, Undead, and Blood Elves) for the lands of Azoroth, while in the North the Lich King threatens to sweep down and kill both sides, in the south the Silithid threaten to eat them all, and the deamonic Burning Legion threaten to blow the entire planet up. ... you have to wonder given all the common threats, why the Horde and Alliance just can't get along.

... and trust me, its not like the Fantastic Four, X-Men or Spider-man. Good or bad, it will be aimed at a different audience and have a completely different feel.
They mention D&D in the interview (although not by name), and describe it as a rushed movie simply made to cash in on the franchise. D&D was made for the Xena generation, these guys seem to realise true fantasty fans want movies like LOTR which return to the days of Willow etc when fantasty was serious. It might not be a fantastic movie, but at least they're starting out with the right mind set.
In the end its being made by the same people who did 300 and Batman Begins, and those were great. People, rather than moaning at the mere mention of the movie, lets wait until it comes out and then moan if we have to.


If the source material is good, and the people making it know what they are doing, and the tone is right(depends on who they are marketing it to) then it can be a good movie.

Every comic book movie that has bin released so far has had great source material to pick from...some capture the source material almost perfectly(300, V for Vendetta), sometimes they change the source material but still keep the feel, tone, and basic story of it(Spider-man, X-Men, Batman Begins) and then some totally screw it up(Fantastic Four, Batman and Robin, Hulk).

As for Advent Children I played through FF7 and still found the movie confusing...this could just be because I haven't played FF7 in like a decade or the fact that all anime type stuff confuses me.

I'm just saying lets not get too far ahead of ourselves and say that the Warcraft movie is going to be good when we really know nothing about it. Even with Hollywood's best working on it, good source material, good actors, etc. something can always go terribly wrong(Holmes in Batman Begins almost ruined it.) Then we have to ask ourselves if anybody would go see the movie even if it is good. I think one of the reasons why fantasy movies do well is because of their recognition before hand...a lot of them are based off best selling books. Warcraft doesn't have the smae recognition of lets say Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings. People know Warcraft is a good game...they don't know its a good story.
Talon
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I was talking about spirits within just so you know havent seen advent


Spirits within really wasn’t a final Fantasy movie, had nothing in common with the games – which is probably why it was so poor.



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With games especially one like WOW you have got people playing it Hoping that when they see the movie they can say hey yeah I remember doing that in the game, and it just doesnt work.
I have heard about WOW I admit i have never played it but from what i have seen I still dont believe live action will do it justice


I think you misunderstand what Warcraft is about. It’s about the world and history of it. No fan will want a game based on their levelling up in WOW, nobody will care if the deadmines aren’t in it or anyone of the other hundred-odd dungeons. So leaving that aside, even the first 3 games don’t follow the same characters as many are based generations apart, and the main character in all of them is the player who directs the armies. Warcraft has been developed through 3 strategy games, 6-odd expansion packs, and the biggest online game of all time to have a massive history. It is not a game where you can see everything you have done in a movie.
In the end the fans will only want to see a horde vs alliance setting in that world.


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There are also over 1.5 million people playing WoW


Actually that’s only the figures for Europe. Its 9 million worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft


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Every comic book movie that has bin released so far has had great source material to pick from...some capture the source material almost perfectly(300, V for Vendetta), sometimes they change the source material but still keep the feel, tone, and basic story of it(Spider-man, X-Men, Batman Begins) and then some totally screw it up(Fantastic Four, Batman and Robin, Hulk).


Warcraft is not a comic book series – although it has one based on it. Nether is it a super-hero movie, so those examples are not really accurate.
It’s a war movie. If your going to do a comparison it would be more like 300, LOTR (GOOD) vs D&D (BAD). These people made 300, and they say through the interview they are going for LOTR tone. Indeed they might muck it up, but they haven’t even filming started, so what’s they point of focusing so much on the potential problems when we know so little yet?


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As for Advent Children I played through FF7 and still found the movie confusing...this could just be because I haven't played FF7 in like a decade or the fact that all anime type stuff confuses me.


Well I know five other people who played FF7 and understood it fine, I don’t know what went wrong with your copy.


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I'm just saying lets not get too far ahead of ourselves and say that the Warcraft movie is going to be good when we really know nothing about it.


And all I’m saying is will people stop claiming its going to be rubbish before we know anything about it.


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Warcraft doesn't have the smae recognition of lets say Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings.


While I first read the Hobbit when I was a child and watched the animated movie of LOTR right up until I was old enough to read it, you’d be surprised how many people did not know the movie was based on a book and still went to see it. I even read movie reviews were people claimed it was ripping off D&D despite the book being written decades before. Trust me, there are plenty of people out there who went to see LOTR without knowing it was based on a book from the 1950s. Warcraft is played by 9 million people worldwide, that’s a starting fanbase, and if its good and brings in good reviews others will come hoping to see another LOTRs whether they have heard of it or not.
If everyone took the attitude 'why make a movie that nobodies heard of' then most of the movies out there would never have been made - the only movies would be based on the No1 best selling books. Beleive it or not there are hundreds of movie outthere that have gotten great reviews and not flopped that had fewer fans that WOW when they were conceived - do you know how many of the biggest movies in history had no source material to begin with and started solely as a screenplay?
And anyway, you’ve never played the game, so why do you even care? Why are you so desperate to bash it before its even entered production?!
jesspy
QUOTE(Ashigaru @ Aug 12 2007, 03:03 PM) *
That wasn't a bad movie, it just wasn't Final Fantasy.

Warcrafts backstory is very well developed. There are also over 1.5 million people playing WoW and millions of others who played the previous warcraft games. They've already said it takes place before the events of WoW so if WoW players have been paying attention to it they will know things they've done ingame wont happen in the movie, at least not in the first one.



oh okay well again i have never played it so i am not sure what goes on really. I have only seen bits and pieces on Youtube and watching others play it at cafes and stuff
Cadetak
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 12 2007, 07:15 AM) *
Spirits within really wasn’t a final Fantasy movie, had nothing in common with the games – which is probably why it was so poor.
I think you misunderstand what Warcraft is about. It’s about the world and history of it. No fan will want a game based on their levelling up in WOW, nobody will care if the deadmines aren’t in it or anyone of the other hundred-odd dungeons. So leaving that aside, even the first 3 games don’t follow the same characters as many are based generations apart, and the main character in all of them is the player who directs the armies. Warcraft has been developed through 3 strategy games, 6-odd expansion packs, and the biggest online game of all time to have a massive history. It is not a game where you can see everything you have done in a movie.
In the end the fans will only want to see a horde vs alliance setting in that world.
Actually that’s only the figures for Europe. Its 9 million worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_of_Warcraft
Warcraft is not a comic book series – although it has one based on it. Nether is it a super-hero movie, so those examples are not really accurate.
It’s a war movie. If your going to do a comparison it would be more like 300, LOTR (GOOD) vs D&D (BAD). These people made 300, and they say through the interview they are going for LOTR tone. Indeed they might muck it up, but they haven’t even filming started, so what’s they point of focusing so much on the potential problems when we know so little yet?
Well I know five other people who played FF7 and understood it fine, I don’t know what went wrong with your copy.
And all I’m saying is will people stop claiming its going to be rubbish before we know anything about it.
While I first read the Hobbit when I was a child and watched the animated movie of LOTR right up until I was old enough to read it, you’d be surprised how many people did not know the movie was based on a book and still went to see it. I even read movie reviews were people claimed it was ripping off D&D despite the book being written decades before. Trust me, there are plenty of people out there who went to see LOTR without knowing it was based on a book from the 1950s. Warcraft is played by 9 million people worldwide, that’s a starting fanbase, and if its good and brings in good reviews others will come hoping to see another LOTRs whether they have heard of it or not.
If everyone took the attitude 'why make a movie that nobodies heard of' then most of the movies out there would never have been made - the only movies would be based on the No1 best selling books. Beleive it or not there are hundreds of movie outthere that have gotten great reviews and not flopped that had fewer fans that WOW when they were conceived - do you know how many of the biggest movies in history had no source material to begin with and started solely as a screenplay?
And anyway, you’ve never played the game, so why do you even care? Why are you so desperate to bash it before its even entered production?!


At no point did I say that this movie is going to bad...I said it could be bad. Your acting as if it is automatically going to be good just because the game is good and the people working on are going to try to make it like LOTR.

I haven't ever played world of warcraft but I've played through Warcraft 2 a couple of times. I didn't pay much attention to the story but get the basic theme and concept behind it.
Talon
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At no point did I say that this movie is going to bad...I said it could be bad. Your acting as if it is automatically going to be good just because the game is good and the people working on are going to try to make it like LOTR.

I haven't ever played world of warcraft but I've played through Warcraft 2 a couple of times. I didn't pay much attention to the story but get the basic theme and concept behind it.


At no point did I ever say its automatically good, I too state my fears in an early post; “I just hope they go the way of Lord of the Rings and not Dungeons & Dragons”.

What I’m taking issue with is both your posts paint a very negative picture of a movie that isn’t out – its as if your expecting it to be bad without giving it a chance. Stating a few fears is one thing most people here have, but two posts detailing where it might fail just seems like you aren’t even giving it a chance.

All I’m saying it don’t be so negative, indeed it might suck and sink like Resident Evil 2, but equally it could be another 300.
Mad Manfred
WoW as a movie would be absolutely preposterous if they used actors. However, if it were animated like the trailers and TMNT, it'd totally kick a***.
Talon
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WoW as a movie would be absolutely preposterous if they used actors. However, if it were animated like the trailers and TMNT, it'd totally kick a***.


GGI trailers are indeed cool, and TMNT was nostalgic bliss *cry*

I don't like WOW live-action would be bad, it would be like LOTR.... only WOW
Cadetak
QUOTE(Talon @ Aug 15 2007, 06:55 AM) *
At no point did I ever say its automatically good, I too state my fears in an early post; “I just hope they go the way of Lord of the Rings and not Dungeons & Dragons”.

What I’m taking issue with is both your posts paint a very negative picture of a movie that isn’t out – its as if your expecting it to be bad without giving it a chance. Stating a few fears is one thing most people here have, but two posts detailing where it might fail just seems like you aren’t even giving it a chance.

All I’m saying it don’t be so negative, indeed it might suck and sink like Resident Evil 2, but equally it could be another 300.


Understood.

I don't think this movie will be anything like 300 though...it would be foolish to try to emulate that movie. 300 is a great movie but to match that movie's style, tone, violence, and over all theme wouldn't seem fitting in my opinion. LOTR yes but not 300. I think we can all agree that this movie isn't going to be rated R either.
Talon
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I don't think this movie will be anything like 300 though...it would be foolish to try to emulate that movie. 300 is a great movie but to match that movie's style, tone, violence, and over all theme wouldn't seem fitting in my opinion. LOTR yes but not 300. I think we can all agree that this movie isn't going to be rated R either.


I only mentioned 300 as its one of the last movies the company making WOW movie made, I don't think and don't want them to make it in 300 style. I want the movie to be rated 12 at most, no sex scenes, and no funny lighting.
Mad Manfred
laugh.gif be cool if they added something funny like a half naked Night Elf female dancing in the city square "spare g?"
jesspy
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Aug 17 2007, 08:48 PM) *
laugh.gif be cool if they added something funny like a half naked Night Elf female dancing in the city square "spare g?"



of course you would say that lol tongue.gif
Ashigaru
QUOTE(Mad Manfred @ Aug 17 2007, 05:48 AM) *
laugh.gif be cool if they added something funny like a half naked Night Elf female dancing in the city square "spare g?"
With Blizzards sense of humor it wouldn't suprise me if they did this.
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