Sorry for requesting clarification. You quoted my post, I asked what you meant so I woudn't accidentally misconstrue your meaning. I've misunderstood you far too often and I think asking or clarification before responding is the responsible thing to do.
This thread is about Buddhism and violence, I gave my reasons on why people think Buddhism is completely non-violent, when in reality many sects are not. I compared it to the old tales of Christian Noble Chivalry and King Arthur.
You quoted my post and I didn't understand why, so I said I didn't understand in hopes for clarification.
I'm not sure why that freaked you out.
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MW no freak outs jsut keeping it real , I don''t play pretend real well..
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I took it buddhism as no better tahn a serila killer ireal serious and investigated it came up empty..... but i for no reason would affiliate with anything that harms others let alone pat them on the back and i ask why do you??????...and defend it or outright, claim relgion is all love and rainbows (chrsitinaity) but now buddhism now thats the blood curdling one... If i may what was your adgenda MW????? a little stab was it, a pm to stir the pot( we have the pms MW) try to pit dear friends against each other, or pretend you are a mod and the scoop on who is to be banned as kismet told you....... and this you call love and one who can inspire others ... hmmm??????? thats why i said i don't want to play games with you ..
.but i do extend the peace pipe because that is who i am..... and lets move on okay for the last time ....
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I took it buddhism as no better tahn a serila killer ireal serious and investigated it came up empty..... but i for no reason would affiliate with anything that harms others let alone pat them on the back and i ask why do you??????...and defend it or outright, claim relgion is all love and rainbows (chrsitinaity) but now buddhism now thats the blood curdling one... If i may what was your adgenda MW????? a little stab was it, a pm to stir the pot( we have the pms MW) try to pit dear friends against each other, or pretend you are a mod and the scoop on who is to be banned as kismet told you....... and this you call love and one who can inspire others ... hmmm??????? thats why i said i don't want to play games with you ..
.but i do extend the peace pipe because that is who i am..... and lets move on okay for the last time ....
I was on topic wasn't I? The questions were asked, I gave what I belived were well thought out answers, fair, based on experience to a certain extent since I lived in Buddhist Japan and Buddhist Thailand for a while. Ever been either place? It's nice. I just didn't understand your reply. For pete sake. Stop the insanity.
Serveral posts have pointed out that buddhism isn't necesssarily non-violent. PA gave some good links, I gave a good Powerpoint that origniated from an ultra liberal university that had a lot of good straight forward information.
I don't affiliate myself with anything that harms others and I don't defend anything that does. I've said that about a zillion times and have provided you with links to not only my church, but also to the Quaker UN Office for Peace, to the Historic Peace Churches of which Quakers are an original member of. Then you tell me that I said Buddhism was blood curdling? I never said any such thing NEVER. I've quoted all my own posts. You wonder why I get so furious with you. This would be the reason why.
Look what you said:
Now go back and read the paragraph RIGHT above this quote.
My posts:
Serveral posts have pointed out that buddhism isn't necesssarily non-violent. PA gave some good links, I gave a good Powerpoint that origniated from an ultra liberal university that had a lot of good straight forward information.
I don't affiliate myself with anything that harms others and I don't defend anything that does. I've said that about a zillion times and have provided you with links to not only my church, but also to the Quaker UN Office for Peace, to the Historic Peace Churches of which Quakers are an original member of. Then you tell me that I said Buddhism was blood curdling? I never said any such thing NEVER. I've quoted all my own posts. You wonder why I get so furious with you. This would be the reason why.
Look what you said:
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but i for no reason would affiliate with anything that harms others let alone pat them on the back and i ask why do you??????...and defend it or outright, claim relgion is all love and rainbows (chrsitinaity) but now buddhism now thats the blood curdling one...
Now go back and read the paragraph RIGHT above this quote.
My posts:
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 13 2007, 03:32 PM) 
And in all fairness... some portion of every religions followers have discriminated, killed, maimed, and done terrible things to one another and those who are outside their immediate circle. Is there any religion that doesn't have some kind of violent history somewhere in its past? Even my own pacificst branch of Christianity has a little bit of offensive violence in it's history... or at least a few of them took up arms in the military.
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 13 2007, 04:08 PM)
Yes, even Buddhism... Buddhism isn't exactly completely non-violent. The marial arts are deeply rooted in Buddhism and so were the Samuri. Do Buddhists go out and wage war to save buddhism? No, not precisely. But then again, it's my point of view that just about all wars waged in the name of religion aren't really about religion, they're really more about politics with religion being a convenient rally flag.
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 13 2007, 05:36 PM)
This is a good PPT file about violence and Buddhism:
http://academic.hws.edu/chinese/huang/fysm068/outline4.ppt
It's not entirely non-violent and there ARE doctrine and precepts that allow for violence... read the entire powerpoint deck carefully, it's well done.
http://academic.hws.edu/chinese/huang/fysm068/outline4.ppt
It's not entirely non-violent and there ARE doctrine and precepts that allow for violence... read the entire powerpoint deck carefully, it's well done.
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 15 2007, 04:54 PM)
I dunno, probably because Samuri's, Ninja's and Monk's warring is a nobel and romantic image to a lot of people. Kinda like King Arthur and the Round Table is.
*shrug*
Let's face it, most people don't even realize that buddhism like christianity has about a bazillion different sects too... just like Christianity does.
And just like Christianity, some buddhist sects value non-violence and pacifism more than others.
*shrug*
Let's face it, most people don't even realize that buddhism like christianity has about a bazillion different sects too... just like Christianity does.
And just like Christianity, some buddhist sects value non-violence and pacifism more than others.
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