If Scientests announced that they had found conclusive evidence that evolution was fake, what would you think?

Supposing they provided huge amounts of evidence to prove it, said that everything that they believed in was fake or misunderstood, and stopped believing in it, what would you do, what would you say, would you believe anything differently?

Please, no comments like "Evolution won't be proven wrong." It isn't about that, I'm just curious how people would react if evolution was some how proven wrong.

To be "proven" fake, something else would have to replace it.

And, if you are going to say "god did it", that would require your deity to actually make an incontraverible appearance, claiming credit for creation.

I'd look at the evidence and if it fit... Evolution would be wrong then. It's all about finding knowledge. Science each day tries to disprove it's self so they can know for sure what is and what isn't.

What do you mean by evolution?

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I believe that if evolution were found to be in error (which it is anyway) people would have a hard time fitting into a new social structure. Societies beliefs would be thrown into flux and this would cause a new serious of movements to occur that would try to fill the gap left by that belief system.

Many people would have to reevaluate their lives, since if a natural phenomenon didn't cause our existence then it would become highly probable that a supernatural intervention was the cause. People would have a very difficult time dealing with that issue....

It is called the theory of evolution for a reason.........its not fact just a theory..but that dont mean its true or untrue..its all up to us to descide what to make of it

its a complex theory and a lot of thinking is involved in it

If evolution were proven wrong, it would leave a bit of a gap in our history, but it wouldn't be necessary to fill that gap. Now is the only thing that's real.

Unfortunately most people don't think like that. It might not be a major disruption in many lives but the need to know is part of our psyche and as such people would not rest until they had a convenient substitute for evolution...

Um thats a tad unfair to claim - most people

just saying lol

I have a hard time with the question, are we all supposed to now hide an awful lot of large cumbersome dinosaur bones and fossils in our closet???

I guess that would leave the two acorns on the tree of life story.

Then I wouldn't believe it. What if it was proven to be true?(which it is) What would you do?

Outside of biology I don't think that it would do too much to society, my understanding of it is that what we know is constantly changing and so must our theories, if we proved that it was wrong then in doing so we would open up new avenues of study and so it would be replaced with a new and more accurate theories. If you mean that god came down and said "hey guys... yeah you've got it all wrong and this is how it actually goes (insert whatever dogma you so desire) so... yeah." and then we'd be all like "Wow we were way off... (awkward silence) so yeah we'll get to worshiping you now." At least that's how I imagine it would go.

So what would happen? Evolution is wrong so the scientists are wrong? If they're wrong about that, maybe they're wrong about everything else? the world isn't round, the earth doesn't go around the sun, gravity is a myth and the guy who invented the artificial heart really just made a very small jet printer? That would mean medical science might be wrong too.. the chicken pox vaccines might cause cancer and stitches kill brain cells.. If it WHERE proven false (not fake.. you sound like yer talking about a CGIed ghost picture when you say fake) then a lot might change, and we might be rethinking a lot of the things we "know" now. Of coarse, on a purely personal level.. I dun see this happening.

When evolution is seen as false, I think many will find it hard to accept. Even though most people don't actively think about it all the time, they are comforted by the 'fact' that we are the smartest, greatest, most highly evolved creatures that have ever existed. It serves to stroke the ego. When people see that this isn't the case, it will really turn their world upside down.

I think those people who can't see evolution as being able to be false are the very definition of 'close-minded'. People, especially scientists, must always be open to all possibilities. They must follow where the evidence leads.

10 years ago, people would have laughed at you if you disagreed with Einstein and said that there were forces faster in the Universe than the speed of light.

Woah, I dont know anyone like that. I'd say believing you were created in God's image strokes the ego far more than the brutal life and death reality of our own existance.



And for evolution to be proven wrong it will take mountains of evidence which totally discredits all the evidence we have for evolution. A creationist quoting half of a chapter on Charles Darwin on the eye wont disprove evolution.

As for Einstein, thats physics, this is biology. All the stuff we have to work with in biology is on one planet, physics, and especially theoretical and quantum physics is done far back in time or far out in space on the very large or very small scale, and most of the work is done in the mind with advanced mathematics. It's far more likely that the big bang model is wrong than it is that evolution is wrong, but the big bang model fits the evidence we have.

Now, to answer your question, what if evolution was proven wrong?

I dont know what I'd do. I'd certainly not turn into a christian.

I actually think evolution and creationism go hand in hand - So it wouldn't really affect me. But the people who just downright refuse to accept evolution would probably carry on living in denial - They're not generally the sort of people who will accept a scientists word as fact.

Followed by the presentation of evidence to support such a claim. Regardless of the power, knowledge, fortune, expertise and so on of the individual or being making the claim unless they have evidence it is nothing more than a claim.

They're out there. I've ran into many.

As for Christian philosophy, we were created in God's image but sin corrupted us all and now we are the lowest of the low. My personal belief is that we are in a sort of 'reverse evolution'- ancient people were much more highly evolved. As time goes along and Satan tightens his grip, we suffer more and more from sin. The more sin that is in us, the farther we are away from God.

I know that it would take a lot to change people's minds about evolution, seems nigh impossible these days. Anything could happen though




Yeah, there is a difference. I didn't mean that as an arguement against evolution, I was just pointing out how widely held views can change as science evolves.

Show us these mountains of evidence then. Everytime i find a source of someone (or scientist) claiming evidence for creationismI find a source or scientists to shoot it back down or de-bunk it' And no, I don't believe for a second satan is behind it-as many of you do. Again you can use any verses you wish -as all christians do-to fit and mold them to your purpose or deepest wish. It's a psychological phenomenon. How else can one explain all the different christian beliefs that came from this source called the bible ? I know -you scream !!! .................. What an excellent cop out to mistrust the evidence.


If evolution were proven a myth I would probably then be a ???????
I would actually be happy if it were a myth for numerous reasons.

evolution being proved wrong wouldnt change this... actually evolution is the theory that pretty much says that we are all just stupid instinct driven animals like everything else. highly evolved stupid instinct driven animals but... we arnt as special as creationism would have us believe.



the evidence leads us towards evolution so far...

There's no such thing as being "highly evolved", all organisms have evolved to suit their own needs. The people you describe obviously don't understand evolution.



The thing people don't realize is that evidence is often found which conflicts with specific aspects of our understanding of evolution, but it's looked at properly and incorporated in to the theory. I find it funny how the people who outright disbelieve the theory and attempt to bring up evidence to falsify it, are the ones who simply don't have a clue about it. It's rare to come across someone who actually has an understanding of the theory, yet still believes it's completely false.

There's a reason it's the commonly accepted theory.

why? no one has to come forward on evolution....

randomhit10

because evidence suggests that it is most likly true.
creationism doesnt have any "real" evidence so the only way to prove it existing would be through proving god existing which would only happen if "it" showed itself.

i know that tune...it's the andy griffith show...right? lol....ready for coffee now, i just made a pot....

randomhit10

Because the evidence does that. There's no evidence for creationism, but if a god appeared and claimed credit for it, that would be evidence.

Oh my! If this doesn't fit the "logical fallacy" category, I don't know what does!

Sean

It was never proven to be true.

The scientific process is always self correcting. As new information comes along and is found to be solid evidence things are flexible enough to be adapted to the new evidence. For example the age of the universe has moved around between 13-19 billion years as different findings take place. Science is flexible where as religion is not. Creationism is a great example in the the process starts with the answer and then searches for evidence to support it, bypassing evidence that does not support it. That is not a very sound way to go about finding the truth.

If the evidence changed then science would adapt. The same thing cannot be said for religion.

Theories can't be proven true, they can only be proven wrong or left neutral. Although it might not seem like it, that's what makes them so reliable.

It is always nice to have an IF in a hypothesis.

If evolution was wrong I would challenge anybody to please give me an explanation why certain animals separated from their likes start behaving differently and adapting to new environments by acquiring new abilities. Like land iguana acquiring diving capabilities, or a finch turning into a blood sucking parasite. The place to see all this are the Galapagos islands.

What R7 stated ... Facts support a theory. A theory stands until disproven. Evolution has yet to be disproven. In fact, many thousands of experiments have proven it correct. Creationism ...

Sean

For some reason creationists believe that if they somehow crush the theory of evolution and force people to accept that we were created, we'll all have to start believing in the christian god. Why? Putting aside, for a moment, the fact that I'm a Deist... if I were an Atheist and the only option open to me was to believe we were created, why would I like the bible god any more than I do now, and why would anybody else? We don't all disbelieve simply because the theory of evolution exists... we disbelieve because the bible god is a horrid fiction.

I wouldn't like the biblegod any more if the theory of evolution were tossed out the window. In fact, even if he popped in for afternoon tea in person my opinion of him wouldn't change.

If evolution is wrong.... I will eat my hat

How about that

that is an absolute nonsense answer....

randomhit10

What's nonsensical about it?

Good post FB. It all comes down to the evidence found in the natural world.

yeah really

Excellent post and yes you are correct....if evidence changed religion would NOT adapt

lol what?? dude you asked for an answer, then you rag on it and call it nonsense lol...good grief..next time, why dont you give a multiple choice ...making one answer to suit you and the other answer to suit everyone else LOL

This topic has popped up a few times since I have been here, I think it would be interesting to see people answer the questions, If science proved beyond any doubt tomorrow that god was not real, what would you do?

If evolution was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt not to be true...I still wouldn't become a creationist.

Gonna make a quick straight to the point post from a scientist.

Theories are supported by mountains of evidence, facts. The word theory in science is not used the same way as one of Andy Griffith's hunches. Furthermore theories are not proven nor do they need to be. We can often times assess the usefulness of theory by its ability to predict. In this case evolutionary theory is very useful at prediction. We use theories in science to support laws, facts of life if you will.

A different subject example is planetary motion. The planets rotate about the sun and do not fall into it, this is a fact of life, a law of nature. But why? There is many theories that support this, from Newton to Lorentz.

Evolution is a fact of life, a law. Theres no way around that. It is not a belief, it is not disputable. Many, many, many (insert many more many's here.) technologies and medicines are based upon evolution. They work because evolution is a fact of life.

Evolutionary theory describes the mechanisms by which evolution occurs. The theory, supports the law. Theories are often revised, a revision does not mean they are incorrect. Revision on only adds to the predictive power of the theory. Evolutionary theory makes many correct predictions of the world, therefore we know it is fairly well describe theory, that is not to say it is all encompassing or complete. We have much to learn still about evolutionary mechanisms. This process can take centuries, as with the earlier example, it has taken us the better part of half a millennium to describe planetary motion with the accuracy we can today.
Edit: Actually you could say it has taken us the better part of 2 millennium.

To express disbelief in evolution only lets your ignorance of how the world works show.

Many creationists misuse or misunderstand science being critical of itself. Scientists are just as critical of evolutionary theory as anyone else. In this way we ensure we get our science correct. This is where evolution and creationism differ greatly. Most creationists are not critical of creation, Creationism under the lightest scientific scrutiny falls apart. For this reason, I believe, they attack evolution or feel threatened by evolution. That is why creation is a matter of faith, there is no scientific evidence to support the claims, it can only be faith to accept ideas without evidence. I am not saying this is wrong, its up to each of us to decide our beliefs.

I have noticed though, how creationists accept evolution slowly, as in waves. Once upon a time, any evolution was impossible, then that changes to "well macro evolution is not possible", which transforms into oh yeah evolution is really a tool of God, he set evolution and speciation into motion. Thats just an observation I have made, but anyway now I am ranting and I had said this would be breif

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BERLIN — Benedict XVI, in his first extended reflections on evolution published as pope, says that Darwin's theory cannot be finally proven and that science has unnecessarily narrowed humanity's view of creation.

In a new book, Creation and Evolution, published Wednesday in German, the pope praised progress gained by science, but cautioned that evolution raises philosophical questions science alone cannot answer.

"The question is not to either make a decision for a creationism that fundamentally excludes science, or for an evolutionary theory that covers over its own gaps and does not want to see the questions that reach beyond the methodological possibilities of natural science," the pope said.





A question for creationists ? Why do we share 99.4 % of the same DNA with Bonobo chimps ?

So does that make you 99.4 percent chimp?

I'd be disappointed .
But see, even though my deepest hope is that there is a "benign" god-I still won't believe what I wan't.
I decide with my head and the evidence placed in front of me-not my emotions.
If god wants to" talk to me "he has to do it through my head too-not just my heart. He supposedly gave me both right ?