Check out this fabulous article I found. http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=3473665&page=1

Now dont get me wrong, I think the crime doesnt fit Jeff's m.o, but its worth the read all the same.

That was a pretty damn good read. thanks for posting that.

Yes it is an interesting read. However i agree that it doesn't fit Dalmers MO. He didn't kill children. He may have been a sadistic cannibal, psychopathic freak, murderer. But he wasn't a pedophile or child killer.

Thats very true, but at the time of Adam Walsh,s murder Jeffrey D. would have still been young, mabey just a teen himself. And often serial killers will start out commiting a crime in an unsure way that later gets honed to their real preferances! Which in Jeffrey D,s case was still small young men! Mabey he just started with a child then finding he was succeful with a child he then gained confidence in seeking out what really gave him the thrills! Just a thought!

I believe. .. And could be wrong, but I think Jeff started killing (so they say) at 18. His youngest known victum was 14. And I do believe he was charged with child molestation of 12 or 13 year old. . .

Thank you great internet god wikki . . .

When the Army discharged Dahmer in 1981, they provided him with a plane ticket to anywhere in the country. Dahmer told police he couldn't go home to face his father, so he headed to Miami Beach, Florida, because he was "tired of the cold."

On September 25, 1988, he was arrested for sexually fondling a 13-year-old Laotian boy in Milwaukee, for which he served 10 months of a one year sentence in a work release camp. However, in 1988 there was not yet a law requiring offenders to register when convicted of a sex crime against a minor. He convinced the judge that he needed therapy, and he was released with a five-year probation on good behavior. Shortly thereafter, he began a string of murders that would end with his arrest in 1991.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Dahmer

I think he killed before he was 18 and i think he killed alot more than the 17 men / boys that he was charged with,,he was in the military staioned in germany. I have a feeling he was getting some practice over there. He may have not been a child killer but he was a pedophile.Maybe he did kill adam walsh the connection is very intersting and the timeline fits.

What really bugs me in child abduction cases is people like this:

Bill Bowen, a television producer, said he was about to enter the mall when he heard a loud altercation taking place next to a blue van. He said he saw a disheveled man holding a boy by the arm up in the air.

Bowen said the boy yelled, "I'm not going. I don't want to go," and the man screamed, "Yes you are," and then threw the boy into the van, jumped in, and sped away. Police don't dispute that these witnesses came forward at the time, although no record of their statements exists.

What did he do about it? It's like with Madelaine MacCann, you hear time and again of people who think they've seen her, in a couple of cases people who say they're 100% certain it's her, but they don't do much about it. I can honestly say I'd make such a scene if I even thought it could be an abducted child.

I had to ask my self , Reg, when I read that part of the article too. It is sad that he didn't do anything because it very well could have been adam's abduction he was witnessing. I find another sad point is John Walsh's refusial to concider that some one other than the man who admitted to the crime could have been responsible. Jon Carr said he killed Jon Benet. It was untrue. People admit to crimes they didn't comit all the time.

Thats unfair to expect out of people. When my son was 2 I took him to the park for a walk, we walked all around, it was a nice day and we spent it playing and talking about trees ect... When it started to get dark I said it was time to go, cause the mosquitoes were bad. Needless to say my son threw a kicking screaming fit (the embarassing kind,) and I actually had to carry him kicking and screaming to the car. Next thing I know Im surrounded by a horde of highschool volleyball players trying to stop me from loading my own son into the car. I actually had to show them the pics in my wallet before they would step back. I was so mad for days and days about that.

I'm new, so I don't know if this has already been covered, but the majority of Dahmer's victims were African American gay males.

But that's good in my opinion. If you see a child being carried off kicking and screaming, it should be questioned - so what, it embarrassed you? what if your son really was being abducted (god forbid) and afterwards witnesses step forward and say "... well yeah, we saw this kid being carried off, he was screaming and we did nothing about it" - never mind being mad for days, you'd be mad for the rest of your life if anything bad happened to him.

If you see a child being physically held in distress - it's right to question what's going on.

I have never disagreed with anything more... I would guess your not a parent, or you would know that distress and kicking and screaming are always present, even if there is no abduction. You truly beleive that its ok to thrust yourself between parent and child, and tell the parent that they cant have their kid until they prove you are the parent? Thats just sick IMO... Especially if the child is already acting upset, it just upsets them more. Could you imagine if everyone thought like that, confronting you because your child was throwing a fit?

You've got to be kidding me - I'm a mother of three and if I saw a child being picked up and carried off, screaming his/her head off - yes, I would go and see if everything was OK. Kids have paddies and screaming fits - mine did, and no I don't go up every one to find out what the score is. In your own words - you were in the park, it was getting dark, and you're carrying off kicking and screaming child to a car - I would question that in a heartbeat every single time.

What if your son was being abducted, kicking and screaming and people just stood and watched? Apathy is all too rife in the world today.

You've got a weird idea of what's sick. We live in a society where children are abducted and abused regularly, you call people trying to stop this sick? Oh right, you got embarrassed, how awful.

Yeah, doesn't sound like JD's m.o
But you never know (sinister laugh)

This is redicules, a stranger who comes between a parent and their child, and tell that parent they cant have their kid without proof is twisted. Go ahead and do that to someone while they are dealing with their screaming child.... see how they like it. It's not about embarassment, its about respect, courtesy, and understanding... I dont know how you raised three kids without that. Its not like its an odd site to see a kid screaming as his parents make him leave the park. Go ahead and question it everytime, but Im gonna say I told you so when you yourself get charges against you for keeping a child from his parents.

I don't think you get it at all, you can't see past yourself and think about the child and the childs welfare.

Children get abducted, children get abused. You are in a dark park, carrying off a screaming boy and some people questioned what was going on - ???? and your problem with that is what!! again, you were embarrassed. I don't know what they said to you, I don't know how they treated you - this part I'm not aware of and may well be why you're so mad about it. Personally, I would ask, is everything OK? and come and talk to the person and the child - that's what I'd do, I wouldn't stand there accusing you of running off with him, but I'd find out what was going on.

And you know what, I'd rather risk having charges pressed (did YOU press charges?) than read in a paper that a young kid had been abducted and I'd just stood by and watched and let it happen - any day of the week.

I've raised my kids very well thank you very much, they're delightful and I'd hope, if the table were turned and I were in your shoes that day, that I'd be asked as well - with my hand on my heart I say that.

I can relate. When my oldest son was about 3 or 4, we were in the parking lot at a grocery store. I unloaded my groceries and then proceeded to lift him from the cart seat and put him in the car. He out of the blue started yelling, " Help! Help!" I was so shocked! I had no clue what made him decide to do that! ( I still dont, unless it was something he saw on TV.) I told him to stop that, please! While there wasn't anyone very close by, i was still amazed no one came to his rescue. While i would have been very embarrassed, I would have been glad someone cared.

That's exactly what I mean - if you think about it, if it hadn't been you your child was protesting at, you'd like to think someone would step in and just check.

I think Dahmer had a connection with Walsh before -- way before this article surfaced. Nothing was ever proven, and I doubt Walsh will ever find his son's killer. It'll be an unsolved mystery. But that must break Walsh's heart. If Dahmer was his son's killer he can never proven it and the b****** is now dead! But new DNA technologies are coming out every day, so who knows what can be proven in the next 10 years, if Walsh is still around then, with all the enemies he's made over the years.

People should learn to control their children so that there never IS any kicking and screaming in public, but BACK TO TOPIC,

this could easily have been Dahmer, I think he was an experienced and canny killer and paedophilia was definitely right up his street. I think he was not very well understood by people studying him, he really struck me as being exceptionally intelligent and extremely dangerous and cool.

I thought that it had been fairly well established that the murderer of young Adam Walsh was Henry Lee Lucas' confederate, the monstrous Ottis Toole.

Did I miss a turn somewhere?

I've just finished downloading and reading the PRIMETIME article.

It's just creepily possible that two of America's most noissome serial killers were both present at the mall that day, each totally unsuspected by the other, like two evil pirate ships passing unknowingly in the fog.

But what are the odds? That's almost paranormal in itself.

Whats with the cack about they're not disputing the witness making statements they just can't find them?

Huh? I find that really hard to believe personally.

It would be hard to distinguish if a mum/dad was just disciplining their child when the child is shouting and sounds distraught... and saying they don't wanna go... unless ofcourse they're being chucked in the back of a van. I think it could turn into a highly embaressing situation but I'd sooner be embaressed than feel guilty for the rest of my life.

My boyfriend got yelled at the other day in the park we were cutting through because he picked up a little boy who fell over, the mum screamed at him telling him to get off her son... it's a huge shame but the reality is thats how we pretty much have to be now....

Better to be safe than sorry in my opinion. Regency is absolutely right.

I dunno. If every time I acted bratty towards my Mom in public some adult stranger had moved in to separate us and detain us until the cops arrived I'd be a lot worse psychological mess than I actually am.

On the other hand, under those circumstance maybe I'd have acted the brat only once.