Gods many names

Elohim Yahweh Jehovah ect there are prolly more lol

" In Messianic Judaism, generally regarded as a form of Christianity, YHWH (pre-incarnate) and Yeshua (incarnate) are one and the same, the second Person, with the Father and Ruach haQodesh (the Holy Spirit) being the first and third Persons, respectively, of ha'Elohiym (the Godhead). YHWH is expressed as "haShem," which means 'the Name.'

I wondered as to why so many different names for God?

I just refer to God as..........God lol...it makes things easier

I wondered if people that call God by a different name...that it must mean they get heard faster than anyone else?? If so, I think its a tad silly, no offence...


Why so many names for the one God???

because people are different. it's the same reason there are so many paths to God.

How many ways are there to say hello ?

I like the term God. for me it represents all. or rather an energy. much like a light or pluck of a harp string. no figure no gender no shape no anything that can be pinned down. Just as easily one energy or one thousand parts.

Hi, hiya..or if you are Irish like me its - Whadda boutcha LOL Hows it goin? Hey there? LOL

I too prefer the term - God...it does represent all and much easier

Depends what sounds better when you smash your thumb with a hammer.
Incidentally all my gods are named after swear words.

The names represent different aspects of God (in Judaism). It's one way to know that HaShem, is NOT Allah. Muslims and Jews DON'T serve the same God. Hence, why Jews take offense when you say that Allah is a different name for God. It isn't. Just like Vishnu is not a name for HaShem. You can follow Vishnu and I'll follow HaShem. Yes, we all use God at some point in referring to our God. In prayer I use El Adonai (The Lord). Contrary to what LT said, I would have to say that its only partially because people are different. It's mostly because people serve different gods. You can say there are many paths to God, and maybe there are, but to which God are you going to? I take offense when someone says HaShem and Allah are the same, and Muslims (the real ones in the Middle East) take offense too. Simply, we serve different gods, and we don't like to hear people say we serve the same gods, because we don't. So, we have different names. When God spoke to Moses he called himself HaShem (or YHVH). When Gabriel spoke to Muhammed he called himself Allah (if of course, that was a real story).

Compliments of word web.....god a noun...

A material effigy (A representation of a person (especially in the form of sculpture) that is worshipped....

A man of such superior qualities that he seems like a deity to other people.....

Any supernatural being worshipped as controlling some part of the world or some aspect of life or who is the personification of a force.....
Used to express surprise

the supernatural being conceived as the perfect and omnipotent and omniscient originator and ruler of the universe; the object of worship in monotheistic religions.....

My guess is the biblical god has multiple personality disorder. He is a loving god one day, ruthlessly killing the next, another day wise, another day supposedly flooding the world and killing all but a few of his faulty creations. In a real sense leave it up to the fact that even the biblical god is an amalgam of many other gods and stories about gods.

I missed the loving part ....

God's love is an awesome thing to experience.

good point I guess in a sick way you could say after asking Abraham to sacrifice his son and at the last minute saying ah no just testing you is sort of loving. In a really messed up way...

oh my gosh or the two that cheat( I forget which story ) and for punishment he orders the baby to be killed or has his own son ( jesus ) murdered , or kills all the first borns. or finds rape a worthy endeavor (lots daughters) ....I can't wrap my mind around this at all...

God is loving, but love is in the eyes of the beholder. If you think he isn't, than no matter what you will see him that way. If you know of his love, than no doubt shall cross your mind about his love.

i wouldn't find this love....but what ever works for ya...,

I've heard women who date serial killers say the same thing...

That wasn't God, it was Solomon, and he ordered the baby killed to see who was the true mother. The baby wasn't harmed.


That story is bull to Orthodox Jesus because the Messiah will not come to be killed when he comes.



My only response it, he is God and can do as he pleases.



It wasn't worthy at all. Lots daughters seduced him with wine and he was under the influence. As a result they were cursed.


Read up on your Bible Sheri before you make ridiculous claims.

Child i odn't care how you slice it this isn't loving behavior and i would ask how is it you find this loving if you don't mind me asking???

Well, he hasn't killed the woman has he? Besides, that is a bad example because a person (the serial killer) isn't God. Men don't have the right to take life from Men because men do not give men life. Yet God has the right to take life from Men because God is the giver and creator of all life.

Of course its not loving to the person he kills, that wouldn't be the point. Life, is conditional (notice I said life, not love). While God does still love the Heathen, he may still take his life because the Heathen lives on after that anyways. If you want to live here and now, you obey, otherwise you may lose your life for not meeting the requirements. If you do, God still loves you, and when you die and stand before him he will tell you as much. He will add up your life's work and give you some new clothes, and sit you down in a grave and say "Wait till I establish my Kingdom, than you may live there."

gosh that helps i was saying to self this is beyond what I can comprehend( calling killing babys love etc raping women love) but in the context you just defined you are indeed correct and the abused call, the abuser loving....Gosh we have a long way to go as a humanity if we call this diety loving..... Its sad...

how is this working for you to beleive this if you don't mind me asking ???
are you afraid of death child???

Umm...well for one I have experienced God's love first hand, but I also know that he is a loving and beautiful God. If you spoke to him you would see Sheri. Also, I am not afraid of death. I welcome it with open arms and a joyful heart because after death I see HaShem, he greets me and says "Hello my child, this meeting will be short. Here is the account of the good you have done. Now wait until I establish my Kingdom on Earth." And then I get back in my grave an wait, or go to a waiting place (as some believe.) However, if the afterlife/realm of the spirit has not time than I will be with HaShem in his Kingdom.

child relogoin still today do not recognize basic human rightrs or equalities amoungst each other let alone love , women are still ocnsidered inferior and ahiests deserve to die according ot soem dogmas and homosexuals deserve the same.... this isn't love and this is what is taught today..how do you feel about this child????

Yes, actually, it does recognize basic human rights and equalities. They are outlined in the Declaration of Independence. "...All men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator certain unalienable rights that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..." These are basic human rights Miss Sherri, and all people (in America) have them. Regardless of the religious.


Yes, religion isn't all that loving. But no, women are not still considered inferior (at least not in the religion you hate most (Christianity)).


Only in Islam.


Again, only in Islam. In Judaism only homosexual offenders (those who have participated in homosexual acts of a sexual nature) deserve death. However there is much love to be observed in the Torah Miss Sherri. You don't understand it because your lack of forgiveness and abundance of grudge against Christianity clouds you.


In America it isn't really taught today. Not by those who know the Bible and its purpose. I feel perfectly fine with the way things are (in most cases). There are some things I would change, other than those few things we need to stop pissing and moaning over who's solving the problem, and solve it. Yes, we need to get to the source of the problem and adjust likewise, but going into the blame game (as you do constantly Sherri) is completely pointless and does nothing to solve the current problem we face culturally, socially, emotionally in children, and religiously...

Gosh hon are you young I mean no idspresepct to ya either...

i really don't feel many of those ideas as that is all morals are are not meant to be so mean and , i think they are probably attempts to articuate and express underlying principles that support life and I feel its sincere, gosh i hope so anywys.... i can't imagine humans actaully being as heinous as some of the ideas they have come up with....so my point you are wondering is man gets into trouble when he focuses more on his mental creations and loses sight of the underlying meaning and this is what has happened so you see althiough it looks real good life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness in implemnaetaiton we have little to none of this ...........you'll see soon enough once you get on your own.....

You are really something aren't you Sherri? You go so far as to say these are mental creations, yet you yourself display constant mental damage in that you hold so much hatred for religion because of your past. You need to let go. You say that you like to understand, but you don't want to understand, because your not making an attempt to. People (religious ones) try hard to explain their beliefs and the beauty they see. But if isn't how you like it, you say its a "Mental creation." We have a lot of Life Liberty and Happiness to be pursued in the US. Only the greedy and ungrateful don't see it. You obviously don't know how much the poorest of our human bretheren hope to come to America. It is a beacon of hope. Why? Because there is freedom. Americans are too greedy to care for others and are selfish to the point that we have debates such as this one. Sherri, I can't even talk to you anymore today because you have made me so angry with your hypocrisy and grudgery. You say you want to learn and understand and see beauty, but you don't, you want to learn your stuff, see your beauty, and understand that which you like. Please take an example from your talk, and walk it as you claim to do.

why don't you try saying that in a way that's about 200% less offensive. I'm sure you did not mean what you wrote.

wow child, I think you have over reacted, you can only filter your awareness into what i inferred.. To see a construct for what it is isn't hatred child as a matter of fact i live outside of hatred...LOL my walk does support that LOL..

You are telling a person who uses her live to be the diffenrce from a place of exeprince i am not a child i am a 40 year old woman raising beautiful children, it is also not for you to define how i learn learning is not conversion LOL... it may be helpful to understand true learning brings one to their own wisdoms......as a woman who doesn't parent in violence as a matter of fact I fele an authotiy on the subject and have tthe ability to discern the diffenrce.....its simply my pov ...

you have not addressed my point you have atempted to define me how can you do this without knowing me LOL..silly.... all you can be telling about is yourself .. so back on topic child ideas are mental constructions , morals beleifs and often dogmas get caught up in that and lose sight of the underlying core reasons to begin with.... which should be love and peace.....


You are so fond of calling me hateful * giggles* yet my posts are kind and gracious and hate free, observably consistently, I do not engage in hate mongering, i do disagree with construct s that exisit to generate harm yet i do not feel it rquires hate posts or threats lol.....Its just a discussion..

good day Mw, why not address the point.... if you have a counter I would love to hear it....If you percieve this to be offensive as its a subjective pov I'd say it has more to do with you then me..remember you don't know me at all....LOL

Just a reminder MW lets keeps this on topic k....

I feel sad for you, honestly I do, and I will most certainly pray for you. I don't understand how someone who is so "the difference" as yourself can't see her own flaws. We don't have to know you to tell things about you, your posts act like a mirror and reflect your character (I think the mirror is dirty). I think that for the moment, I should cease responding to you. I don't know why I keep taking you off ignore, boredom probably. And please, don't talk that way to MW, open your eyes and use em to read ok? You forget that in your post with which MW replied to, you didn't make a point. You blasted religion, and then you ask how I felt about it. Then I called you a hate-mongering hypocritically delusional woman with a reading deficiency. But don't worry, I'm only talking about me

For the love of God...will you PLEASE get back on topic...quit trying to ruin this thread with your banter


good grief...

god our father the god that is above all that is,the first ,the last,that that is forever and ever amen.

that one that clamed that he is ,you know that jealous god the one of the jews he reminds me of that one from the greeks that one got his teeth kicked in and was sent to the underworld by his mother funny she brought him into the world and she took him out.

child you arent' making any sense my freind feel sorry for me hahahah lol I love life and have a beautiful life and am surrounded by love, and freinds, the internet isn't real child its a guage of nothng lol... maybe youare talig this way to serious..... and can we please stay on topic....I do think the rules say no name calling ....

Lol, of course I'm not making sense to you, I never have. Anyways, you are right, we should stay on topic...I've already posted my opinion so....hmm yep. No reason to keep coming back to this thread.

GOOD!!!!!!!

sheri, if you can't see why your post was offensive (I'll quote it again) then I really do pity you.

the idea that allah is different to jhvh intrested me, was allah really an evolution of an arabic moon god?
searched 'allah' and besides the usual wiki results, which are worth a read i found this....

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sou...llah/hubal.html

which you guys might find interesting.

i personally would suggest that allah does indeed refer to jhvh.

...could also point to the polytheistic origins of judaism....

....its a bit like the eskimo words for snow perhaps....

God has many names, each seem to indicate how he/she/it is approached.

...wonder what he calles himself.......

I AM !!!!!!!!!!

if your still wondering?

I've wondered the same myself about the 'differnces' of 'God(s)'... and having said that, at the same time understand the need for so many flavors of that concept... we're all a different shade of rainbow exisiting in different sides of the planet wearing different clothese and say our basic 'hello' in different tongues. Need we say more about why so many names for 'god'?

Funny however that we also continue to 'fight' and make war of the 'names of the god' or title of the 'gods book'... or story of the 'gods' way... Is it not enough that we all have a god or 'god concept' even if it be of 'no god'? Most folks I find on UM are more open minded then not... but still, the majority of the 'god' believing population tends to be quite personal over it??? I am included in a 'god' believing population... so pls dont think me as excluded from what I say here.

I think it might have to do with the concept of 'names' all together? I've indulged in a self experiment where Ive chosen recently to 'stop' giving people my 'real' name. I noticed with 'myself' that when I'm 'just an email address' or some avie name I made up or posing as 'some warped version of my own name'... I seem to be quite open about my own and other's ideas. When MY name is being used, I notice a much more 'cautious' air about what I say or do and I also tend to take things way more personal rather then objectively.

I wonder what our 'godly' discussions would be like if we 'abandoned' the 'name' of our 'gods' and perhaps even the 'stereo human' image of our 'gods' ... but discussed only our 'theories/concepts' about what our 'gods lessons' are.... so as to not 'take comments so personally'. I reminded myself of how 'insulted' we seem to get when hearing bad commments aobut our "Mother wearing combat boots..." It gives me a better perspective on why we fight over comments about 'our god wearing combat boots too...'

I've asked myself and other's... Am I 'my name' or am 'I' the person who wears it? Are your belief's IN the concepts of your 'gods' or are your beliefs within the 'names/images/books' of your 'gods'? If we 'stripped' our gods of their names, faces, clothese, books... I wonder what our discussions would be 'of' god then?

Just my ramblings -thanks for the post and the time.

If your muslim god has 99 names and i think 100 but the 100th no one knows/.

Amazing... not to post again, but as I continue reading down this thread or any other with the word 'god' in it... it seems to me (with no offence intended to anyone) that my point gets more reinforced to myself....

If we 'stripped' our gods of their names, faces, clothese and books... I wonder what our discussions would be 'of' god then?
Seems many 'know' how 'their book' reads... but not many seem know what their holy book 'says'....

And CERTAINLY, this and most posts like this tempt me to leave the following as a 'concept' as well...for 'god'. I would love to hear from anyone who elects to read....
I currently call 'My' personal god by the name of 'number'. Not to 'hijack' discussion away from here what so ever... but to leave you with food for thought....and I hope open discussions for another day.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showentry=15743

The God i follow and believe in only goes by one name - GOD

lol I am muslim and i have never heard this before, actually it is also against Kuran. Cebrail is Cebrail, and Allah is One Allah, unique. And for your claims about atheists and homosexuals being deserved to die according to Kuran is neither true, no verse something like that in Kuran.



lil gremlin, i think no need for this detailed refutation because Kuran is clear about these allegations.

This is how Kuran explains Allah(just 3 examples, one can find more):

1:1 All Praise is due to Allah, the Eternal Source of Life of the Universe and everything therein.

17:111 And say, "All Praise is due to Allah Who begets not an offspring, and has no partner in His Dominion, and has absolutely no weakness, hence no need of any aid." And so, extol His limitless Greatness. (Establish His Greatness in the Earth with all magnificence, as it is in the entire Universe). (9:33, 74:3).

Surah 112 – İhlas – The Pure Monotheism
Author’s note: This a very brief Surah that very forcefully and clearly
expounds strict Monotheism, nothing confusing about it as Trinity, Dualism or any shade of Polytheism.

With the Glorious Name of Allah, the Instant and Sustaining Source of all
Mercy and Kindness.

112:1 Say, "He is Allah, the One!
(He is Unique in His Essence and Attributes and He alone is the Sovereign
Law-Giver in the Universe).
112:2 Allah is Absolute, Eternal, Unique, Self-Sufficient, Perfect, Independent,
the Uncaused Cause of all that exists, Besought of all .
112:3 He begets not, nor is He begotten.
112:4 And there is none that could be comparable unto Him."


Kuran clearly says how moon is rejected as an idol:

41:37 (Divine Laws help you journey through life in great balance as you see in the Nature). Now among His Signs are the night and the day as well as the sun and the moon. Adore neither the sun nor the moon, but adore Allah Who created them, if it is Him you wish to serve.

Detailed analysis of Moon in Kuran:

1) Moon as a calculating device:
55:5 The sun and the moon run by a mathematical design.
6:96 He is the Cleaver of the daybreak. He has appointed the night for stillness, (rest and tranquility) and the sun and the moon to run their well-calculated courses. They become means of calculating time for you (10:5). Such is the Design of the All-Powerful, the All-Knowing.
2:189 (Self-control is a life-long challenge extending beyond the month of Ramadhan.) They ask you (O Messenger) about the phases of the Moon. Say, “They are calendars to help mankind determine certain seasons such as Hajj.” But know that righteousness can never be achieved by entering the System through the back door of ritualism. Only he who lives an upright life attains it. Enter the Divinely Ordained Way of Life straightforward as you must enter houses through their gates. Be mindful of Allah all year round in order to reap a rich harvest. (2:138, 2:177, 2:208. There is no such thing as a part-time Muslim.)

2) Moon is controlled by Allah:
13:2 Allah it is Who raised the heavens without pillars visible to you. Then upon the Throne of His Almightiness He assumed Supreme Control of the entire Universe. He committed the sun and the moon to be of service, each running to an appointed term. He keeps Order in the Universe and He explains His Messages in detail, so that you may be sure of meeting with your Lord. (Studying the Book of Nature will bring mankind closer to their Lord).

14:33 And makes the sun and the moon, both of them constant on their courses. And committed the night and the day to serve you.

16:12 He has committed in your service the night and the day, as well as the sun and the moon, and the stars are committed by His Command. These are sufficient signs for people who use their intellect.

3) Moon adores Allah:
22:18 Don't you see that all things and beings in the heavens and in the earth, the sun and the moon, and the stars and the mountains, and the trees, and the animals, and a great many human beings pay adoration to Allah? And there are a great many human beings who make themselves worthy of Requital. And those whom the Divine Law shall disgrace, none can raise them to honor. For, Allah carries out all actions according to His Laws.

4) Moon's phases also controlled:
36:39 And the moon: We have measured for it phases until it becomes (a crescent) like an old curved date-stalk.

5) Moon as a reflector of Sun’s light and borrows its light:
10:5 He it is, Who appointed the sun as a splendid glow, and the moon as a cool light. He appointed stages for the moon, in due measure. You make your calculations and calendars accordingly (6:97, 17:12). Allah has created the Universe as the Absolute Reality and for a Purpose. (It is neither a dream, nor a reflection of the world of ideas). Allah details His Verses for those who wish to learn.

25:61 Blessed is He (the Beneficent) Who set up in the sky great constellations, and put therein a radiant Lamp, and a Moon giving light.

71:16 And made the moon a light therein, and made the sun a radiant lamp.
91:2 And the Moon that borrows its light.

And many more, moon is controlled by Allah(14:33, 13:2, 16:12), moon is stuck to its orbit(21:33,36:40, 39:5), moon is submitted to Allah(29:61, 31:29, 35:13) etc…



You mean the attributes of Allah, like Most Merciful, Unique, Eternal etc, and Allah is one of these attributes(because of it is firstly mentioned by Cebrail, muslims use Allah) but I have never heard 100th one lol…

Btw the crescent moon and the star being the symbol of Islam, began with the Turks entering the Islam. Crescent moon and the star was a symbol of Ancient Turanians/Tur people and when Seljuks and Ottomans began to lead Islam then all muslim communities embraced the crescent moon and the star.

for those of you with no linguistic skills, "allah" is the same exact root as "el", the hebrew word for "god", as opposed to "YHVH", which is "God's" actual name, "Hashem", the name, which jews never say. shaddai, a plural noun, also found as el shaddai, means the all-powerful, and was revealed to abraham, shadai is used on mezuzot. elohim, which means "gods" is another plural noun, often referring to yhvh. there are many others, some female (eloah), some male. to truly understand the meaning of these, study a little kabbalah. "Yshuah", the name of moses's successor, is not a god-name in the tanach. many hebrew names contain a name of god, such as "Eli" (my god).

duplicate post-sorry