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Gridkeeper
What can I say?

Edit: Here are two videos of large craft in space. The first showing stills of these craft which also includes the space station surrounded in strange blue like energy fields. This is real, I have seen it. The second video shows digital footage of these craft, some of which are in deep space, turning and releasing huge amounts of photon light. The first half of the film has been reversed into negative format to give a different perspective. This was filmed from the ground using a telescope.

UFO Interstellar Still Pictures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFeQsS8DwJI


UFO Interstellar Video Footage

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHOoHH0sXIY

GK.
Magikman
Well, this being a discussion forum, you pretty much have to say something beyond just posting some video. Since its your production, try including some detail and your thoughts, should you actually have any, otherwise the thread will have to be closed.

Magikman
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Magikman @ Aug 16 2007, 05:54 PM) *
Well, this being a discussion forum, you pretty much have to say something beyond just posting some video. Since its your production, try including some detail and your thoughts, should you actually have any, otherwise the thread will have to be closed.

Magikman


Thanks for the advice, note taken.

Gridkeeper.
Agent. Mulder
weird. looks like im checking out something through a microscope
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Aug 16 2007, 06:08 PM) *
weird. looks like im checking out something through a microscope

A few people have said that. The footage was filmed through the eyepiece of the telescope. Note how the objects appear to be moving, always in one direction. This is the earth rotating and the operator correcting this every so often with quick adjustments to the telescope.

GK.
Primeval
QUOTE(Agent. Mulder @ Aug 16 2007, 10:08 AM) *
weird. looks like im checking out something through a microscope



Your right it really does. Anyone wanna give a verdict on authenticity?
sourpatchkid
So are these supposed to be alien craft out in space? I dont really get what is going on here.
sourpatchkid
QUOTE(Primeval @ Aug 16 2007, 12:18 PM) *
Your right it really does. Anyone wanna give a verdict on authenticity?



It looks like maybe these were taken through a telescope (read the youtube comments on the second vid). In that sense I believe they are real, but most of them look like rather unimpressive clumps of space gas/dust/debris. If they are pictures of alien ships taken through a telescope, they would have to be absolutely massive, as the standard telescope would not have enough resolution to see something that far away unless it was several miles across.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(sourpatchkid @ Aug 16 2007, 06:23 PM) *
It looks like maybe these were taken through a telescope (read the youtube comments on the second vid). In that sense I believe they are real, but most of them look like rather unimpressive clumps of space gas/dust/debris. If they are pictures of alien ships taken through a telescope, they would have to be absolutely massive, as the standard telescope would not have enough resolution to see something that far away unless it was several miles across.



Some appear to be over a hundred miles long.
GirlInBlack
The video kinda looks like simple cell organisms under a microscope. These are new videos I believe as they were uploaded recently and I hadn't seen them before. I appreciate you posting these because they are new, but they aren't descriptive or clear enough to really know what we are looking at.
Left Field
If your fond of sand dunes and salty air, quaint little villages here and there...........ahhhhh! (Cool tune, but could use a few more lyrics rofl.gif )

Some things in that first vid didn't impress me, but the second space ship labeled "What's this?" is pretty interesting. The stuff on the moon too. How exactly did you "prove" this to NASA?
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Left Field @ Aug 16 2007, 06:41 PM) *
If your fond of sand dunes and salty air, quaint little villages here and there...........ahhhhh! (Cool tune, but could use a few more lyrics rofl.gif )

Some things in that first vid didn't impress me, but the second space ship labeled "What's this?" is pretty interesting. The stuff on the moon too. How exactly did you "prove" this to NASA?


I believe they were shown raw footage.
The Silver Thong
Hi Gridkeeper

Welcome to U.M.

I have to ask, when you posted this comment on Youtube

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"Unfortunately it's not that simple, there are risks involved and they have to be addressed. I have been doing the "right thing" for a long time now, longer than many people will ever know. Are you ready for galactic conciousness? I think we all are."

Could you elaborate what you mean by "there are risks involved"

Great pics by the way.
Left Field
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 16 2007, 01:45 PM) *
I believe they were shown raw footage.


By who?

You mean you sent them what you are showing us? When you say "prove", I'm assuming you had some type of communication with them where at the very least they couldn't explain what it was while still believing the photos are genuine. hmm.gif
Pax Unum
look more like microscope specimens than UFO's... IMO mellow.gif
Alex01
Look buddy you can't take a telecope, take a photo of every smudge and dot you see and say it's an alien, it's just not like that, there are many things in space other than aliens, so every smudge, dot, line you see out there IS NOT AN ALIEN, I remind you that out there, there are planets, stars, nebulae, galaxies ect..........

This videos have no credibility since you are just taking a dot in space and you are calling it an alien. You actually call this evidence? Please....

I remind you that you are on Earth, with a telescope BOUGHT FROM THE STORE and you are looking at objects VERY VERY far away from your current position, by this conditions you CANNOT say that the current object you are seeing is an alien.
itsnotoutthere
Well i'm convinced unsure.gif
Alex01
QUOTE(itsnotoutthere @ Aug 16 2007, 08:41 PM) *
Well i'm convinced unsure.gif



I am convinced that all the rocks in the park are meteorites. rolleyes.gif
KyrusRose
I'm choose to disbelieve it. Really it just looks like microscope slides, like has been said before. But if it really was deep space.. well I found this a few days ago and that might explain it too.. so I still don't think its anything special.


"Explanation: What's happening to the galaxies of cluster Abell 2667? On the upper left, a galaxy appears to be breaking up into small pieces, while on the far right, another galaxy appears to be stretched like taffy. To start, most of the yellowish objects in the above image from the Hubble Space Telescope are galactic members of a massive cluster of galaxies known as Abell 2667. The distortion of the galaxy on the upper left is real. As the galaxy plows through the intercluster medium, gas is stripped out and condenses to form bright new knots of stars. This detailed image of ram pressure stripping helps astronomers understand why so many galaxies today have so little gas. The distortion of the galaxy on the far right, however, is an illusion. This nearly normal galaxy is actually far behind the massive galaxy cluster. Light from this galaxy is gravitationally lensed by Abell 2667, appearing much like a distant person would appear through a wine glass. Each distorted galaxy gives important clues about how galaxies and clusters of galaxies evolve." SEE LINK BELOW

Illusion and Evolution in Galaxy Cluster Abell 2667

edit: for clarity
bball
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 16 2007, 12:27 PM) *
Some appear to be over a hundred miles long.

how can you tell?
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(The Silver Thong @ Aug 16 2007, 06:50 PM) *
Hi Gridkeeper

Welcome to U.M.

I have to ask, when you posted this comment on Youtube

Quote
"Unfortunately it's not that simple, there are risks involved and they have to be addressed. I have been doing the "right thing" for a long time now, longer than many people will ever know. Are you ready for galactic conciousness? I think we all are."

Could you elaborate what you mean by "there are risks involved"

Great pics by the way.


Hi and thankyou. I have had interference from MI5 and been warned to stop talking.

GK.
Fluffybunny
To me it looks like what you are catching is nebulae; but without knowing times, location, and coordinates there is no way to know exactly what you were looking at.
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Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Left Field @ Aug 16 2007, 06:50 PM) *
By who?

You mean you sent them what you are showing us? When you say "prove", I'm assuming you had some type of communication with them where at the very least they couldn't explain what it was while still believing the photos are genuine. hmm.gif


Something like that yes, although I did not do the communicating myself .
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Aug 16 2007, 07:08 PM) *
look more like microscope specimens than UFO's... IMO mellow.gif

Do they look more to you like specimens in the first or second half of the video?


Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:37 PM) *
Look buddy you can't take a telecope, take a photo of every smudge and dot you see and say it's an alien, it's just not like that, there are many things in space other than aliens, so every smudge, dot, line you see out there IS NOT AN ALIEN, I remind you that out there, there are planets, stars, nebulae, galaxies ect..........

This videos have no credibility since you are just taking a dot in space and you are calling it an alien. You actually call this evidence? Please....

I remind you that you are on Earth, with a telescope BOUGHT FROM THE STORE and you are looking at objects VERY VERY far away from your current position, by this conditions you CANNOT say that the current object you are seeing is an alien.


Thanks buddy.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Aug 16 2007, 07:48 PM) *
I am convinced that all the rocks in the park are meteorites. rolleyes.gif


Good for you.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(bball @ Aug 16 2007, 10:48 PM) *
how can you tell?


One was measured to be more than a light year away but the size appeared as if it was a few hundred miles away. Some of these sizes seem to be fantastic, I did not film the footage myself although I have witnessed it.
clem
QUOTE(Fluffybunny @ Aug 16 2007, 10:07 PM) *
To me it looks like what you are catching is nebulae; but without knowing times, location, and coordinates there is no way to know exactly what you were looking at.
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wow cooool.. space is spectacular. thanx for the nebula pix . as i said on you tube .. no telling WHAT it is.. but if its a telescope capturing aliens you have GOT the be the luckiest guy alive with a camera or really good at it cause you know where to look-
sorry to come across all sarcast.. just got home from work and kickin its ass = kindof tired
i would love to say 'yes finaly ... proof' . sorry i cant quite on this one . fun pics nonetheless (and vids) - and who knows ?..maybe they are ( alien craft).
i dont think it is (but thats me) with soooo much sky and you happen to get all this different footage?
just my opinion,
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Orion437
I think that maybe some of the images could correspond to the ISS:

http://images.google.com.ar/images?client=...genes&gbv=1


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Sorry for my english.
offamychain
I see some very fuzzy images & in the stills some evidence of LOTS of pixelation around the object, giving an indication the images have been altered. I've got a 16" telescope & an SBIG CCD imager. Let me have some coordinates & I can give a second confirmation, if it's actually there. That's how we astonomers confirm things.


EDIT---Uummm....never mind. I saw the MI5 comment & that blew all credibility immediately.
KyrusRose
QUOTE(offamychain @ Aug 17 2007, 07:00 AM) *
I see some very fuzzy images & in the stills some evidence of LOTS of pixelation around the object, giving an indication the images have been altered. I've got a 16" telescope & an SBIG CCD imager. Let me have some coordinates & I can give a second confirmation, if it's actually there. That's how we astonomers confirm things.
EDIT---Uummm....never mind. I saw the MI5 comment & that blew all credibility immediately.



You saw that too huh? "I have been warned to stop talking"

So, Gridkeeper, why are you still talking and showing pictures? Are you in fear for your life? If they're going to get you anyway, why not tell us everything now before they shut you up for good? Your not telling us what kind of telescope you used, what you used for filming... wait.. these aren't even yours.. forgot. alien.gif
sourpatchkid
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 16 2007, 12:27 PM) *
Some appear to be over a hundred miles long.


Sure. I would assume, because of the distance. Some of the photos were interesting, most just looked like normal space objects through a standard telescope. Nice to see someone so interested though.
DigitalSentinal
Although a firm believer, I don't really get excited over videos and pictures anymore (I work with Photoshop and Adobe Premiere Pro in RL). I get more excited hearing people's stories and anecdotes - especially if they're high level officials.
Emma_Acid
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 16 2007, 11:19 PM) *
One was measured to be more than a light year away but the size appeared as if it was a few hundred miles away. Some of these sizes seem to be fantastic, I did not film the footage myself although I have witnessed it.


How do you mean you've witnessed it? And besides which, I doubt hugely (one for MID, Waspie etc to answer) whether you could get the quality of video that you did from an object 5,879,000,000,000 miles away.
Alex01
Conclusion: HOAX, or he was just looking at nebulae or trying to convince us that those are aliens when they are actually creatures under the microscope.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(offamychain @ Aug 17 2007, 12:00 PM) *
I see some very fuzzy images & in the stills some evidence of LOTS of pixelation around the object, giving an indication the images have been altered. I've got a 16" telescope & an SBIG CCD imager. Let me have some coordinates & I can give a second confirmation, if it's actually there. That's how we astonomers confirm things.
EDIT---Uummm....never mind. I saw the MI5 comment & that blew all credibility immediately.


Why is that then?
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Aug 17 2007, 03:30 PM) *
Conclusion: HOAX, or he was just looking at nebulae or trying to convince us that those are aliens when they are actually creatures under the microscope.


I'm not trying to convince anyone that they're aliens. I haven't been inside one of these things, so I don't know what they. I would like to see someone show a film of organisms through a microscope that look like this, it'll never happen because these strange objects were filmed through a telescope. Believe what you like, I'm not trying to convince anyone of anything. GK.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(KyrusRose @ Aug 17 2007, 02:07 PM) *
You saw that too huh? "I have been warned to stop talking"

So, Gridkeeper, why are you still talking and showing pictures? Are you in fear for your life? If they're going to get you anyway, why not tell us everything now before they shut you up for good? Your not telling us what kind of telescope you used, what you used for filming... wait.. these aren't even yours.. forgot. alien.gif


They can't do sh** to me, it's the people around me which I love that I have to take into consideration. I don't have to prove this to anyone. I could prove all this IF I HAD TO, there is a copy of a letter posted through my mothers door from MI5 and several conversations I had with MI5/special branch, END.

GK.
Alex01
Seriously there are many things in space, you could have misunderstood something with a UFO.. And by now it just looks like you were looking at nebulae and due to a lack of infomation on them you confused them with alien crafts...
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Aug 17 2007, 03:43 PM) *
Seriously there are many things in space, you could have misunderstood something with a UFO.. And by now it just looks like you were looking at nebulae and due to a lack of infomation on them you confused them with alien crafts...


I don't agree. They are definately not nebulae.
Frootloop
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 17 2007, 06:03 PM) *
I don't agree. They are definately not nebulae.


Interesting footage.

Im no expert, but i agree that they dont look like nebulae, there is a whole bunch of movement within these objects, parts of it moving, rotating etc - Nebulae are VERY slow (paint dry yet?). Even if it were an average sized satelite in low earth orbit, to get that kind of detail through the effects of Earth's atmosphere (to see parts moving, or rotation of any kind) would be difficult at best even with a high powered telescope, so they are either very large objects/smaller ones photographed through a VERY high power telescope with adaptive optic systems or something else.....

All IMO btw
Decepticon
Some of those are ISS.
SkepticalEd
QUOTE(sourpatchkid @ Aug 16 2007, 01:20 PM) *
So are these supposed to be alien craft out in space? I dont really get what is going on here.


QUOTE(Primeval @ Aug 16 2007, 12:18 PM)
Your right it really does. Anyone wanna give a verdict on authenticity?



I"t looks like maybe these were taken through a telescope (read the youtube comments on the second vid). In that sense I believe they are real, but most of them look like rather unimpressive clumps of space gas/dust/debris. If they are pictures of alien ships taken through a telescope, they would have to be absolutely massive, as the standard telescope would not have enough resolution to see something that far away unless it was several miles across."

Sourpatchkid: What one sees in these presentations do not look anything like space gas/dust/debris. Where you get these references is just as much a mystery as these images. And you should know that the shuttle and the ISS can be seen and videographed through "standard telescopes" and the shuttle and the ISS are NOT several miles across. Also, keep in mind that when a cable broke, as videographed from one of the shuttle flights, it drifted away to a great distance and objects were seen all around it. Those objects could have been big. Let's keep an open mind on what is not immediately explained and keep unsupportable opinions on check.
Fluffybunny
QUOTE(bball @ Aug 16 2007, 02:48 PM) *
how can you tell?


You simply cant if you have no reference of distance. If you see something one inch wide on an imager with a scale you can figure out a general idea if you know its distance as in the ISS, or the moon, but if you do not know if it is at the same distance as the moons orbit or 2 galaxies down the road there is no way to know. There are nebulae that are light years across, no ship can be that large.

There is a lot of stuff in earths orbit, but just by looking at the clip it looks like the telescope has a wider view where you can see the stars and then increases magnification to look at the small objects that are in question here, which is how you find smaller things with a telescope(unless you have the nifty kind with the computers that do it for you) like other galaxies, nebulae and such.

Without coordinates that were used to come up with this information it is all just speculation and I am always dubious anytime that facts are asked for and all of a sudden it slips that some governmental agency is trying to silence someone; if that is the case, then why post here at all, or if you are concerned about getting the information out then why not upload everything that you know all at once to spread the information all over the net making sure that you cannot be silenced at all. it doesn't make any sense to me and without data to get any confirmation it really doesn't do any good other than to try and sell some DVD's, which may be the only thing this is about...
brothers
Looks like a big jellyfish in space.
offamychain
QUOTE(Gridkeeper @ Aug 17 2007, 02:32 PM) *
Why is that then?



Because those of us who don't fall easily for hocus-pocus tricks, see this type of excuse CONSTANTLY when we start asking for proof, or some information so we can help do confirmations. The person sees that all of us aren't falling for the gag & that some of us are REALLY serious about proving, or disproving, his claim. So his only option is to resort to the "MI5, black helicopters, Men in Black, military told me to shut up, family is in danger" type excuse.....which is exactly what you have done.

I'll tell you something that will work....100%. In today's age, information is instantly available world wide & hundreds of millions see it within secnds. Take a bunch of pictures of this MI5 stuff, all their threats, letters, etc. Post them all at once to about 2 dozen different forums like this. INSTANTLY, so many millions of people will be alerted to them & they will save the stuff to their hard drives that MI5 will simply be overwhelmed & have no option other than drop any type of observation they have on you.....guarenteed.

They ARE a secret, undercover organization....right?? Now how would it look if they offed the family of someone that was known by millions of people world-wide?? They aren't THAT stupid. If I was being followed by some of these guys in black suits...I'd dang sure make sure EVERYONE knew ever move that they...and me.....made. That way, if something mysterious happened to me or my family, it would instantly be on every front page in the world......secret organization's cover completely blown. Millions of people would then be constantly tracking every single move that MI5 made......no more secret stuff.

Now, since you know a sure-fire way to expose & defeat the guys in dark sunglasses......where's those coordinates so that I can image these things through my own scope & confirm your story??
Lizard King
A few of those "ufos" look like one of the versions of the "mysterious drone craft ufo" I think these pictures are some of the best I have seen in the past month or so.
Gridkeeper
QUOTE(offamychain @ Aug 17 2007, 11:34 PM) *
Because those of us who don't fall easily for hocus-pocus tricks, see this type of excuse CONSTANTLY when we start asking for proof, or some information so we can help do confirmations. The person sees that all of us aren't falling for the gag & that some of us are REALLY serious about proving, or disproving, his claim. So his only option is to resort to the "MI5, black helicopters, Men in Black, military told me to shut up, family is in danger" type excuse.....which is exactly what you have done.

I'll tell you something that will work....100%. In today's age, information is instantly available world wide & hundreds of millions see it within secnds. Take a bunch of pictures of this MI5 stuff, all their threats, letters, etc. Post them all at once to about 2 dozen different forums like this. INSTANTLY, so many millions of people will be alerted to them & they will save the stuff to their hard drives that MI5 will simply be overwhelmed & have no option other than drop any type of observation they have on you.....guarenteed.

They ARE a secret, undercover organization....right?? Now how would it look if they offed the family of someone that was known by millions of people world-wide?? They aren't THAT stupid. If I was being followed by some of these guys in black suits...I'd dang sure make sure EVERYONE knew ever move that they...and me.....made. That way, if something mysterious happened to me or my family, it would instantly be on every front page in the world......secret organization's cover completely blown. Millions of people would then be constantly tracking every single move that MI5 made......no more secret stuff.

Now, since you know a sure-fire way to expose & defeat the guys in dark sunglasses......where's those coordinates so that I can image these things through my own scope & confirm your story??


Hi, can't/won't do that. They will never stop watching and I have already experienced them being stupid. I am not an average Joe. Also I don't need to prove this to anyone, that's not what I am doing. I am just showing you what is currently available. I posted 2 photos from this footage on my youtube account 6 months ago entitled "starship and alien space station" and no one believed me. I said that footage existed of these objects in deep space and again no one believed me. When the truth of other life in the universe eventually comes out and is proved 100 percent to be true then you will believe me as will most people. I'm not saying I know more than anyone else I just happen to know a lot :-)

thanks, Gridkeeper.
747400
QUOTE(KyrusRose @ Aug 16 2007, 09:18 PM) *
I'm choose to disbelieve it. Really it just looks like microscope slides, like has been said before. But if it really was deep space.. well I found this a few days ago and that might explain it too.. so I still don't think its anything special.
"Explanation: What's happening to the galaxies of cluster Abell 2667? On the upper left, a galaxy appears to be breaking up into small pieces, while on the far right, another galaxy appears to be stretched like taffy. To start, most of the yellowish objects in the above image from the Hubble Space Telescope are galactic members of a massive cluster of galaxies known as Abell 2667. The distortion of the galaxy on the upper left is real. As the galaxy plows through the intercluster medium, gas is stripped out and condenses to form bright new knots of stars. This detailed image of ram pressure stripping helps astronomers understand why so many galaxies today have so little gas. The distortion of the galaxy on the far right, however, is an illusion. This nearly normal galaxy is actually far behind the massive galaxy cluster. Light from this galaxy is gravitationally lensed by Abell 2667, appearing much like a distant person would appear through a wine glass. Each distorted galaxy gives important clues about how galaxies and clusters of galaxies evolve." SEE LINK BELOW

Illusion and Evolution in Galaxy Cluster Abell 2667

edit: for clarity
Cool picture. That's the sort of thing that proved Einstein's theory of relativity, wasn't it? that light could be "bent"?

A letter from MI5? was it on headed paper?

incidentally, I've always wondered, do the secret services announce themselves as secret services? Do they go "Good morning, secret service here."? Woudln't that reather defeat the object?

I'm rambling again.

Gridkeeper
DELETED: I hope the people who asked me the questions read what I wrote here as I won't be writing it again.

Gridkeeper.

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