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IzzyGone
"All is number. *God is a number. God is in All." << Pacal's sentiment...Pacal = ancient Mayan Ruler....

After the past 5 months... I came to realize that yes, that's as true a statement about 'God' as can be made. In my opinion. I'm curious to know what anyone's thoughts are on this?


NUMBER... can be 'seen' with my own eyes. Or 'seen' with ANY of the other sences we have including the 'common' kind...<winks>... Number can be 'translated' even if I don't know math or understand the 'language' of the people. Number is inside the body. Nature is built from it too... we've 'proven' all this over and over. It's in the 'stars' and the way they move. It's in our 'minds' in the way of what our eyes consider 'beautiful' which then controls our 'love' and 'attachment' to one another... It's in our society in the way we function in ALL ways... money, time, calendars, etc....

It's the means by which we determine if we 'have' or 'dont' have enough...
It is the 'count' of our life... I am 39 years old. My mother lived 55 years. Her mother lived 91 years...

It is a statement that COULD unite all things... science with faith, art with science, nature with Us...and Us to space...and perhaps even Us to God..?? It would teaches about ourselves, our bodies, our minds and how we came to 'exist'. It would matter not what book you read, what faith/religeon you have or if any... you can be a scientist, a teacher, a doctor a farmer a mother a man a fish, a blade of grass...and God would be with you and you would walk with, in, through and beside God at all times...even when you sleep and even when you die.

You would 'hear' God in any music you enjoy, in any voice you give your ear to, in any expression you make with your own voice... God would be in the air you breath, in the water you drink, in the food you eat, in the sun and clock you govern your life by...and in your neighbor regarless of what 'color' their skin is...as the color itself would be of God too...

And well if 'G.O.D.' simply isn't in your alphabet or vocabulary... well then you could still find an enjoyable day today, find at least one shady tree to sit under and more then one blade of grass to comfort your sit... you don't NEED to have God in your vocabulary for 'god' to still be 'with' you too? NO Exclusions! What a concept??? For a God?

I wonder what would happen if we adopted the idea that God might be Number and truely in All things...
**Notice that I don't say MATH, I say NUMBER...just like Pacal say***

If alllll of the faiths, philosophies and 'holy' books in one way or another call God the ONE source, the ONE thing that is ALL things... and if we believe that...and I do...then I offer this to you as soemthing to think on and yet ANOTHER idea of what 'God' might actually BE... regardless of what you think God might 'look' like...and regardless of whatever 'book' you choose to read or follow... just think on this statement and then try to think what it is NOT....

"ALL is number. God is number. God is in ALL"

We are created in God's image... <<< This statement is NOT disqualified by Pacal's view.

So... do I dare say I 'invite' you? With love I ask this...

Name one thing in this existence that is NOT number in some way.
Then do the reverse and think of one thing (other then God and Number) that IS in all things.
I'm interested to know what you come up with, so please do comment.

So my current opinion stands with myself....Pacal makes the best case of God.
"All is number. *God is a number. God is in All."

I'm interested in all your thoughts on my posts, but this one is of particular interest to me.... so humor me and play....think and then write to me and share your view on this....

NOTE: These are 'words' and not an expression of 'faith' when I use 'christian' terms. I don't 'go to a church' as 'my house of worship' is the space I exisit in.
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"Known as a magician of time, he understood mathematics, or numbers, as a type of language that transcends the subjectivity of human verbal experience. His sentiment "All is number. *God is a number. God is in All." is an intriguing way to catalogue the Maya's message that we are intimately linked with and informed by the Galaxy. All of life is ordered by the same basic, re-occurring patterns.”

*In the Yucatec Mayan language, the word "Hunab Ku" means Source - The One, Giver of Movement and Measure, the galactic core, "God".

Where I clipped this from:
Source: http://www.13moon.com/pacal%20link.htm
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To be cont'd....
Llucid
interesting read. I too believe that there is a direct link between God and the 'universal language'. I believe that there is much much more to numbers than we realize right now. here's a interesting video about a guy who seems to percieve numbers in a way noone else that we know of has...

The Boy with the Incredible Brain

IzzyGone
Thank you sooo much Lucid...it was a very interesting video - i just watched it and think i've seen it before too on TV somewhere...
I don't think this is my case as those people have been that way since young childhood... I've always 'noticed' some numbers but lately, I say 'they see me'.. I don't do MATH calculations beyond what is basic addtion with them - I do opposite that Danniel man - I reduce them. And then once they 'reduce' in my head - it's like there's some type of 'story' there too...?

And it's very recent the 'frenzy' of the numbers... just five months. I think perhaps last year I had once of my 'ocd' moments with them for a few weeks around april too but not like THIS... weird too is that I did 'draw' some images last year and those have appeared again this year but in different ways from different souces...

I dunno - I havent had a brain injury that I know of but did have vertigo for about 10 days a few months ago - just right around the time this started but the doctors say there's nothing wrong with me. I had blood tests too just in case... they think the vertigo was 'ear' but i had no pain... i'm not a doctor tho, so... there u are.

I am similar to those people in the video in the way that I see the 'story' after the number is reduced... like they say something but you have to get them to the 'right size' first... I hear something in voices too (music mostly)... and lately, I seem to be getting pretty good at 'seeing backwards' lol
but it's not... really 'backwards'. And words/letters to number now too... they go to story too and 'chemistry' (which is insane for sure cuz I know nothing of..) DNA, brain wave letters... it all seems to turn more into 'number' now... not math, but number.

thanks again for the video... i'm almost 40 so lol if I've been autistic this whole time... then we missed a HUGE one in my life... lol
Llucid
personally, I've never really been big on numbers. that's not to say I don't have a huge amount of respect for them, though. there is something about them that is pure and wholesome, they have a story to tell that I think we would benefit from.

there have been many Bible scholars that looked very hard into numbers, that is where the Bible codes come from. Someone once discovered that you can go to the first 'T' in the first and second books of the Bible and count ever 49th letter to spell out Torah. Then you go to the first 'H' in the fourth and fifth books and count every 49th letter and it spells Torah backwards, almost like it's pointing to the third book. In the third book, you go to the first 'Y' and count out every 7th letter (squareroot of 49) and you find Yahweh, God. Never done it myself, I think you have to do it with the original language, but I find stuff like that interesting.

yep, there's something about numbers that I like. Probably because they're pure and orderly, probably because they remind me of God. I wouldn't think that numbers are God, but they definately have His fingerprints all over them.


Lt_Ripley
for some reason I'm reminded of the movie Pi -- really good.

π (also known as Pi or Pi - Faith in Chaos) is a 1998 American psychological thriller directed by Darren Aronofsky. The title refers to the mathematical constant π (Pi).

The film is about a mathematical genius, Maximillian Cohen, who narrates much of the movie. Max, a number theorist, theorizes that everything in nature can be understood through numbers, and that if you graph the numbers properly patterns will emerge

Due to his research, Max is chased by a Wall Street company with obvious interest in the results of his studies, and by an orthodox Jew follower of the Torah, who believes that this long string of numbers is a code sent from God

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(film)

the soundtrack is great too. I have it.

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Llucid
great movie thumbsup.gif

ipiphinizion
QUOTE(1Storm Signals @ Aug 19 2007, 01:21 AM) *
"All is number. *God is a number. God is in All." << Pacal's sentiment...Pacal = ancient Mayan Ruler....

After the past 5 months... I came to realize that yes, that's as true a statement about 'God' as can be made. In my opinion. I'm curious to know what anyone's thoughts are on this?
NUMBER... can be 'seen' with my own eyes. Or 'seen' with ANY of the other sences we have including the 'common' kind...<winks>... Number can be 'translated' even if I don't know math or understand the 'language' of the people. Number is inside the body. Nature is built from it too... we've 'proven' all this over and over. It's in the 'stars' and the way they move. It's in our 'minds' in the way of what our eyes consider 'beautiful' which then controls our 'love' and 'attachment' to one another... It's in our society in the way we function in ALL ways... money, time, calendars, etc....

It's the means by which we determine if we 'have' or 'dont' have enough...
It is the 'count' of our life... I am 39 years old. My mother lived 55 years. Her mother lived 91 years...

It is a statement that COULD unite all things... science with faith, art with science, nature with Us...and Us to space...and perhaps even Us to God..?? It would teaches about ourselves, our bodies, our minds and how we came to 'exist'. It would matter not what book you read, what faith/religeon you have or if any... you can be a scientist, a teacher, a doctor a farmer a mother a man a fish, a blade of grass...and God would be with you and you would walk with, in, through and beside God at all times...even when you sleep and even when you die.

You would 'hear' God in any music you enjoy, in any voice you give your ear to, in any expression you make with your own voice... God would be in the air you breath, in the water you drink, in the food you eat, in the sun and clock you govern your life by...and in your neighbor regarless of what 'color' their skin is...as the color itself would be of God too...

And well if 'G.O.D.' simply isn't in your alphabet or vocabulary... well then you could still find an enjoyable day today, find at least one shady tree to sit under and more then one blade of grass to comfort your sit... you don't NEED to have God in your vocabulary for 'god' to still be 'with' you too? NO Exclusions! What a concept??? For a God?

I wonder what would happen if we adopted the idea that God might be Number and truely in All things...
**Notice that I don't say MATH, I say NUMBER...just like Pacal say***

If alllll of the faiths, philosophies and 'holy' books in one way or another call God the ONE source, the ONE thing that is ALL things... and if we believe that...and I do...then I offer this to you as soemthing to think on and yet ANOTHER idea of what 'God' might actually BE... regardless of what you think God might 'look' like...and regardless of whatever 'book' you choose to read or follow... just think on this statement and then try to think what it is NOT....

"ALL is number. God is number. God is in ALL"

We are created in God's image... <<< This statement is NOT disqualified by Pacal's view.

So... do I dare say I 'invite' you? With love I ask this...

Name one thing in this existence that is NOT number in some way.
Then do the reverse and think of one thing (other then God and Number) that IS in all things.
I'm interested to know what you come up with, so please do comment.

So my current opinion stands with myself....Pacal makes the best case of God.
"All is number. *God is a number. God is in All."

I'm interested in all your thoughts on my posts, but this one is of particular interest to me.... so humor me and play....think and then write to me and share your view on this....

NOTE: These are 'words' and not an expression of 'faith' when I use 'christian' terms. I don't 'go to a church' as 'my house of worship' in the air I exisit in.
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"Known as a magician of time, he understood mathematics, or numbers, as a type of language that transcends the subjectivity of human verbal experience. His sentiment "All is number. *God is a number. God is in All." is an intriguing way to catalogue the Maya's message that we are intimately linked with and informed by the Galaxy. All of life is ordered by the same basic, re-occurring patterns.”

*In the Yucatec Mayan language, the word "Hunab Ku" means Source - The One, Giver of Movement and Measure, the galactic core, "God".

Where I clipped this from:
Source: http://www.13moon.com/pacal%20link.htm
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The Awakening...40/40 Vision1.1
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...showentry=15773

ipiphinizion
Yes a wonderful understanding and no I have yet to determine something that is not number relevant- very quickly as I hit the reply button and saw Llucids comment on Pi- yes a very unique and interesting movie - which brings me 2 Haha- years ago I came upon The Sefer Yetzirah - The Book of Creation or Formation - and it correalates in ancient writings the letters and numbers that represented the Creation process - which for a person interested in numbers can be quite exciting - my number processing seems limited but perhaps you will find and be able to interpret and be inspired by the writings- also the belief of the Ein ( or Ayin) Soph - the nothing which contains all also known as the Limitless Light...thanks for the read and may your journey continue to be inspired....
BadgerOne
Perhaps it all goes deeper than numbers. A number is like a letter, our method of understanding an important part / part thereof a subject. the number(s) it/themselves aren't really the issue, but what they point at.

I'm sure i'm not making myself clear, and as a new member here i hope my imput won't cause eyes to roll......

Think of this situation much like that of a PC program. What we're looking at with the number of all things is the same as the difference between using an application and being able to code one. but ultimately that too points to a further deeper function...

Forgive me for rambling on, but i find this quite exciting. i am not a fan of numbers (mumbo jumbo original.gif ) but i am of the inclination that there is a coherent tone that runs through everything. There is something else to come.
IzzyGone
QUOTE(Llucid @ Aug 19 2007, 05:07 PM) *
personally, I've never really been big on numbers. that's not to say I don't have a huge amount of respect for them, though. there is something about them that is pure and wholesome, they have a story to tell that I think we would benefit from.

there have been many Bible scholars that looked very hard into numbers, that is where the Bible codes come from. Someone once discovered that you can go to the first 'T' in the first and second books of the Bible and count ever 49th letter to spell out Torah. Then you go to the first 'H' in the fourth and fifth books and count every 49th letter and it spells Torah backwards, almost like it's pointing to the third book. In the third book, you go to the first 'Y' and count out every 7th letter (squareroot of 49) and you find Yahweh, God. Never done it myself, I think you have to do it with the original language, but I find stuff like that interesting.

yep, there's something about numbers that I like. Probably because they're pure and orderly, probably because they remind me of God. I wouldn't think that numbers are God, but they definately have His fingerprints all over them.


Taht's very interesting information about the Torah... when I see you say 'count' 49 spaces... I see 'blocks of 13' (4+9 = 13) original.gif and then 31 <<(mirror) and 4 spaces (1+3) 1331 together too! and 3113 then you have to also see 11 and 33
Number is in all... so hence the 'toss of this idea'... not that God are numbers but that God IS IN ALL... and so IS number... or so we say anyway... tis why I posed the question and the 'idea' above... wanted to hear reactions mostly original.gif as number facinates me to death. Thanks for your contribution!! I'll have to LOOK at the Torah (as I've never read any holy book).

And I start with 'number'... cuz we can all 'translate' that. those really are lines. <<< and that becomes many and all other things. we measure and count by 'number' is why but these words are lines.. dots. a color and all the white space inbetween.. in addition to light cuz u see them ... and energy cuz you can 'read' them.... and 'direction' because we have more then 'left' and 'right'...
lines are not always straight...Nature makes a curved line. 'We' and our world are not 'on paper'... so there IS more then one direction to read and upside down/mirror counts... in addition to 'white' space and 'new lines' as u layer. And there IS order... very direct and clear order... and then it can all be seen. We just need to learn to see past 'math' and 'letter' to do so. We don't need 'math' so much to 'read' as we do to be able to SEE all things including what we DONT 'readily' see. ... as I BABBLE!!! LOL! It's like training urself to use the 'other hand' to write with... or... training the 'rest' of ur brain to 'interperate' and 'function' in what is 'not comfortable' for your conditioned way. then you have more then ONE way to see. yes, I can use both my hands and both eyez. number=letter = = = ...etc.
Huggles - thx again and again for all the stimulation!
IzzyGone
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ Aug 19 2007, 05:59 PM) *
for some reason I'm reminded of the movie Pi -- really good.

π (also known as Pi or Pi - Faith in Chaos) is a 1998 American psychological thriller directed by Darren Aronofsky. The title refers to the mathematical constant π (Pi).

The film is about a mathematical genius, Maximillian Cohen, who narrates much of the movie. Max, a number theorist, theorizes that everything in nature can be understood through numbers, and that if you graph the numbers properly patterns will emerge

Due to his research, Max is chased by a Wall Street company with obvious interest in the results of his studies, and by an orthodox Jew follower of the Torah, who believes that this long string of numbers is a code sent from God

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pi_(film)

the soundtrack is great too. I have it.

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ooooooooo U sooo have my interest! I'm lookin it up right nowz... thx!
IzzyGone
QUOTE(ipiphinizion @ Aug 20 2007, 07:55 AM) *
Yes a wonderful understanding and no I have yet to determine something that is not number relevant- very quickly as I hit the reply button and saw Llucids comment on Pi- yes a very unique and interesting movie - which brings me 2 Haha- years ago I came upon The Sefer Yetzirah - The Book of Creation or Formation - and it correalates in ancient writings the letters and numbers that represented the Creation process - which for a person interested in numbers can be quite exciting - my number processing seems limited but perhaps you will find and be able to interpret and be inspired by the writings- also the belief of the Ein ( or Ayin) Soph - the nothing which contains all also known as the Limitless Light...thanks for the read and may your journey continue to be inspired....


WOW! I feel like I've gotten Gold coins here! Thank you all so much for the information as it's all been very very helpful. I have 'new' things to look up now! My MIND!!!...she spinz...
Hugz!
And HELLO! to all those I don't 'know' yet original.gif
I give chocolatT kissz... want sum? Throws fistfulls of LUV!!!
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE(BadgerOne @ Aug 20 2007, 10:14 AM) *
Perhaps it all goes deeper than numbers. A number is like a letter, our method of understanding an important part / part thereof a subject. the number(s) it/themselves aren't really the issue, but what they point at.

I'm sure i'm not making myself clear, and as a new member here i hope my imput won't cause eyes to roll......

Think of this situation much like that of a PC program. What we're looking at with the number of all things is the same as the difference between using an application and being able to code one. but ultimately that too points to a further deeper function...

Forgive me for rambling on, but i find this quite exciting. i am not a fan of numbers (mumbo jumbo original.gif ) but i am of the inclination that there is a coherent tone that runs through everything. There is something else to come.


I see where your coming from.broken down to it's basics - the collection of code -example 0 1 001001 ect ....... still is only representative . why does the code exist in the first place ? something missing from the our equation.
IzzyGone
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ Aug 20 2007, 08:20 PM) *
I see where your coming from.broken down to it's basics - the collection of code -example 0 1 001001 ect ....... still is only representative . why does the code exist in the first place ? something missing from the our equation.


The 1 and the 0 'exist' because it's the only way WE 'know' We exist...else there would be 'no control'.. no 'check' on our 'existance' no 'reference' point.
I'm not a programmer but is not the minimum 'check-bit' 1 character? and the 'rule' as bare minumum...'keep the Ones EVEn'? Zero can exist, but it is NOT an even 1. Nor is 10... and perhaps that's why we have a part of a 'story line' that goes....

...."and God seperated between them..."

10.1 is 'even'.... in character AND form... depends on what U c

Can you write any code without those two minimums? which of corse are simple colors of b/w also in/out up/down on/off life/death... something/nothing...
but null is still something. else we'd not even 'know' we were 'something'...or 'nothing' we would NOT be and we cant be NOT because we ARE. See?

Can the 'cell' become anything if it never splits? Is the cell not in itself 'something' even if it isn't 'anything'?
Smaller then it's part(s) is it still not something in the way of molecules or adams or whatever that quantum stuff is???
and is that still not something? which is still either 1 or 0 else universe would NOT exist to US and that can't be either cuz Universe IS to US. and WE ARE to ourselves. Because if we were not at the minimum THIS, then we would not have ever evolved from cell to anything. Do the animals adapt to ways of finding food 'just cuz'? No, WE dont say that, we say cuz of the 'darwin' game called Evolution... well... that's our game too. We can not contradict ourselves. Universe/Nature evolves without our care, concern etc... Nature Happens. Universe Moves. Quantum junk collides and makes stuff we dont know about... all this is OUR habitat...and WE say 'Survival of the fittest/strongest/smartest..whatever' By default to be what we think we are and define as where we came from, we must consider 'other' ways to think and see what we 'know'.

This is all my opinion of corse...

...Else we are 'obsolete' programming and therefore do not evolve and therefore, like all other creations of 1 and zero, will be surpassed by what we ourselves DEFINE as 'evolution' ... the overall machinery of Nature WILL continue without our care and Universe moves without our understanding ANYWAY.... cuz WE don't write THAT code.

Therefore 'we' are not the 'Alpha Programmer'... and therefore we can never 'really' know, when / if that code will ever change or IF that code is 'faulty' in some way..or perfection in all ways...

If we CAN ask these questions of ourselves and TRY to always evolve...not just 'think it might be happening out there somewhere TO us'...... THEN we would BE and BECOME that code. DO U See? the only way to 'see' and 'know' the 'universal code' which is what we call 'the key to life' is to BE that code... and so we MUST consider differnt ways to think...not just to build. we must look at our 'building blocks' (softwaer) and consider if they need updating... like the way we 'see and use' our alphabets and 'number' characters and symbols... more later but...some food for thought....i hope....

for example... let's 'pretend' that 'subtraction' didn't exist. It CAN be done. We CAN grow to from a center in all directions. And we CAN shrink in all directions from either center.... see?

And as long winded as this waz, I'm gonna ask you... did you read ALL of what I wrote up there? Not just the words I typed? wub.gif cool.gif

THANK YOU for participating!
IzzyGone
yeah...cuz....
if we dont..then we'd NOT EVEN BE NULL and NOT EVEN NULL IS STILL NOT EVEN NULL which IS EVEN and yet only one half of IS NULL which is opposite and/or reverse of of 1 and 0 and IS null still isnt really just NULL... entertain me...

LOL!!!

We CAN 'see' sound and 'hear' color and just 'pick up' the vibe...

Oh..and I thank you guys for letting me be so long winded...
But I also pose this question for thought....

we only think we can control what is under our feet aka 'Earth/physical'... we can't yet fly 'past' our own solar system .... we have yet to figure out all about the human body.... we have yet to figure out all the 'matter' we say we 'cant' see.... but is there....

Perhaps rather then trying to 'UNDERSTAND' Nature and Universe, we try to BE that Nature by 'testing' ourselves and our own sences and eyes as to what we see right here in front of ourselves first? Its logical..it's what we can 'see'. Therefore 1 and 0 are a good place to start thinking differently about 1 and 0 and how 'god' might have 'seperated between them' and what 'god' might really 'be'....or 'source code'... whatever u wanna call the game...
MissMelsWell
gunsmilie.gif Ok man, put your hands in the air, keep them where I can see them, and slowly put the calculator on the floor and no one gets hurt....
IzzyGone
Strange enough is... I dont really use one! I'm just sick in the head like that...soo...I surrendar...um... my...?? shoot me. lol!
IzzyGone
Strange enough is... I dont really use one! I'm just sick in the head like that...soo...I surrendar...um... my...?? Ok shoot me. lol!
IzzyGone
Strange enough is... I dont really use one! I'm just sick in the head like that...soo...I surrendar...um... my...?? Ok shoot me. lol!
IzzyGone
dang..why did that post three times? and how do we delete those digital 'booboos'? No delete on post entries? wft?
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