I have never experienced astral projection, and I have some questions on it to more experienced members. First off, when you astral project, is it possible to see what is happening in your physical surroundings? Like for instance, if a book fell from your desk to the floor, during astral projection, would you be able to see it fall? Another question is can you see and/or visit deceased entities? For example, could you visit your recently deceased grandfather and have a chat with him? My final question has to do with the fact that supposedly, one can astral project with someone else. Does that mean that when you are in the "astral plane" during projection, you can see everyone in the whole world who is astral projecting that night?

There is a very good thread on here, Asteral Travel and My Technique by Socrates.I am not computer savvy so you would have to search it on the site . Hope you can find it o.k.

You CAN see the physical realm, I know that.

The last two questions, I'm not sure, but I THINK you can... Do a little research. Sorry.

When i have done astral it feels like your going into a trance and you can feel your self being sucked into like a hole...then im awake but not in my body...i have only done it twice and it only last for like a minute but im gonna keep on practasing !! OH! and i have read up on it and i know you can enter peoples dreams...but i havent done this im scared of wat i might find lol

I am not sure about the dreams bit, where did you hear that from out of interest?

I have only done this once, and was not trying to, it just happened. I could see everything that I chose to look at, and was worried about how I would be-able to return to my body. It was a fantastic sensation, but as for entering others dreams, I wouldn't want to invade someone elses person, unless they asked, but probably wouldn't anyway. I have never tried to do it again, as I lke this life too well, to risk not being able to come back again.

Too bad socrates admitted he was a fake. @ Ruby

When did this happen?

I would like to ask this too when did he tell this?

Bump

When you are truely out of you body Astrally, you are as aware and often more so, than when you are awake.
Seeing deceased relatives is possible while out. But you would need to know how to get to the spiritual world first.
Yes it is possible to see others that are Astrally traveling as well.

It can also sometimes be possible to be seen by others while out.
I know of a few cases where the person was seen and interacted with fully awake people.

While out Astrally, you are limited only by your mind, as to how far you wish to go or where.

when Astral Projecting you can (at least i can):
-see all of your physical surroundings
-notice things changing and see your own physical body
-sense the presence of people and i guess see them
-go wherever you want within limits of concentration

i like dreaming better than AP, so if i can i switch to lucid dreams
you can interact with characters that may or may not be "real" i personally think dream characters are entities.

Astral Projection is nothing more then another name for Lucid Dreaming. There has been ZERO even semi remotely credible evidence presented that it is anything more than Lucid Dreaming .... This is where it falls apart - if the most avid Astral Projectionist cannot provide anything beyond Lucid Dreams and/or a very Subjective Evidence.

Yes, except science still can't really explain what dreams are. Are they our neurons randomly firing, or not quite random, but a process of cleaning the subconscious/unconscious mind. Is it something more?

Either way, even if it is dreaming, it is its own category like lucid dreaming is. AP, is like lucid dreaming, but taken to a whole other level.

When I AP it is very dreamlike, almost like a mix between a dream and physical reality. The knowledge I have received in my dreams are priceless, lucid or not. The information I have seen during AP is also just as priceless.

It's not as simple and straightforward as most people like to talk about it as. Everyone's chemistry is a little different, and I'm sure everyone's AP experience, and dreams, are different.


I usually achieve AP during sleep, and through lucid dreaming. To improve your techniques I would suggest to start analyzing your dreams as deep as possible, learning to control them and becoming alert during them.

I do not know how old you are or how much you tried to learn about the subject.
But it is obvious to people like myself whom has studied this and have had the good fortune to experience it, that your knowledge on it is limited.
I have been studying it(among other subjects) for well over 40 years.
You're statement is "bull". Plain and simple.
In fact there has been many serious studies about it where is much more than subjective evidence.
Have you heard the term "Remote Viewing"?
Studies have shown that people could identify objects at a distance(via OBE) with a sucess that is well above chance alone.
Tell me, can a lucid dream explain how a clinically dead person(later revived) can accurately describe the events to revive him, during that time?
I could go on and on.
A recent study has strongly indicated the differences between Lucid Dreams and OBE(Astral Projections).

Thread is not about the reality debate, is it?
There surely was a previous thread started for that.

1st - I'm 52 yrs old ....
2nd - No I'm not "new" to this - I've been looking and studying and even testing out various methods suggested here and on other boards.
...>> News Flash, I know what Lucid Dreams are - and ALL of the discriptions every given are:
...... A. Subjective at best.
...... B. Very clear examples of Lucid Dreams ...

Ok - now Id'ing objects --> Did they take steps to prove this was done by AP? Or Remote Viewing? Or Precognitive??

What steps did they take to validate this was done via Astral Projection?? Was it simply "I say so....?"

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...199&st=1275
Hmm well I remembered it wrongly, he didn't admit anything meh

In IDing the objects, to be perfectly honest, I do not recall. And that would be difficult to almost impossible would'nt it?

OK, OK.
So it is possible that they could of been demonstrating precognition.

I doubt that would explain, the accurate descriptions given by revived patients, of their OBEs. Would it?
I have spoken with some of the doctors about it and patients that have experienced them. The doctors were dumbfounded as to how these patients could have known the things they knew.

And my personal experience, back in the early seventies. More than anything, it was the most convincing, to me.

Now wait a minute - NDE/OBE and AP are two different topics .... So which are we talking about?? No they are not the same ... not even close.