What is God to you??
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB also my blog is now up check in say hello
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Regarding Number 6. Perhaps God is all around and through us too, therefore He lives within and without.
Interesting point regarding other species, it is a shame animals cannot talk to us, we would probably be astounded what they thought. Perhaps to them, nature is the be all and end all or something, they seem to follow as such and it is rare for any other creature to go haywire and off its path.
Interesting point regarding other species, it is a shame animals cannot talk to us, we would probably be astounded what they thought. Perhaps to them, nature is the be all and end all or something, they seem to follow as such and it is rare for any other creature to go haywire and off its path.
I'd say God "is" but we have the ability to hear his Word from within.
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 21 2007, 09:08 PM) 
I'd say God "is" but we have the ability to hear his Word from within.
It has to come from within,, our minds are the babies of this universe,,, all we concieve including God.
comes from within our minds this is where we call him from ZEB
I think # 6 comes closest . God in all equally all are equally in God . no matter how you choose to worship or believe.
I think we are of God, and God is of us. An eterntal bond. Never ending even in death.
QUOTE(sunburst @ Aug 22 2007, 02:35 AM)
I think we are of God, and God is of us. An eterntal bond. Never ending even in death.
QUOTE(Lt_Ripley @ Aug 22 2007, 01:56 AM)
haha ty for that, made me smile 
yeeeees, just another one of my deep thoughts
!!!!!!!!!!!!
QUOTE(sunburst @ Aug 21 2007, 11:35 PM)
I think we are of God, and God is of us. An eterntal bond. Never ending even in death.
I think that's an awesome way to put it sunburst. Peace Friend.
QUOTE(MissMelsWell @ Aug 22 2007, 02:07 AM)
I think that's an awesome way to put it sunburst. Peace Friend.
haha thanks guys. peace and light to you too my friend
As indicated in other posts, I think god is a physical entity which permeates the universe. Thus we live "in" god, but he also lives "in" us. It is this nature which allows him to both perform physical miracles in the real world, and also communicate with us on an individual level, utilising a range of communication forms, some of which only individuals see, and others which are witnessed independently by groups or multitudes of people.
It is why we are said to have a spark of the divine within us, and why we are said to be created in god's image. It is why paranormal/ supernatural events occur, and why some people are capable of them. It explains why god sees all of time, not just a linear version of it, and it explains how he has the ability to manipulate; matter, energy and time, because he is an integral part of all these things and they are a part of him. Thus, by an exercise of "will", he can transmute matter, convert energy into different forms, change possible futures etc etc. He can physically manifest in any form he choses any time and any where.
All of these abilities have been recorded time and time again, over centuries, even millenia, of human existence. In the modern world we need to ask, "Given that these experiences are real, what scientific possibilities exist to explain them?"
It is why we are said to have a spark of the divine within us, and why we are said to be created in god's image. It is why paranormal/ supernatural events occur, and why some people are capable of them. It explains why god sees all of time, not just a linear version of it, and it explains how he has the ability to manipulate; matter, energy and time, because he is an integral part of all these things and they are a part of him. Thus, by an exercise of "will", he can transmute matter, convert energy into different forms, change possible futures etc etc. He can physically manifest in any form he choses any time and any where.
All of these abilities have been recorded time and time again, over centuries, even millenia, of human existence. In the modern world we need to ask, "Given that these experiences are real, what scientific possibilities exist to explain them?"
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 11:04 PM)
It has to come from within,, our minds are the babies of this universe,,, all we concieve including God.
comes from within our minds this is where we call him from ZEB
comes from within our minds this is where we call him from ZEB
Welcome to UM, ZEB,
I couldn't agree more.
My perceived self misspoke when I addressed our mutual friend via PM about how another might respond to him. It was not a personal reference toward you, as I had not yet read your contributions.
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Aug 22 2007, 07:38 AM)
As indicated in other posts, I think god is a physical entity which permeates the universe. Thus we live "in" god, but he also lives "in" us. It is this nature which allows him to both perform physical miracles in the real world, and also communicate with us on an individual level, utilising a range of communication forms, some of which only individuals see, and others which are witnessed independently by groups or multitudes of people.
It is why we are said to have a spark of the divine within us, and why we are said to be created in god's image. It is why paranormal/ supernatural events occur, and why some people are capable of them. It explains why god sees all of time, not just a linear version of it, and it explains how he has the ability to manipulate; matter, energy and time, because he is an integral part of all these things and they are a part of him. Thus, by an exercise of "will", he can transmute matter, convert energy into different forms, change possible futures etc etc. He can physically manifest in any form he choses any time and any where.
All of these abilities have been recorded time and time again, over centuries, even millenia, of human existence. In the modern world we need to ask, "Given that these experiences are real, what scientific possibilities exist to explain them?"
It is why we are said to have a spark of the divine within us, and why we are said to be created in god's image. It is why paranormal/ supernatural events occur, and why some people are capable of them. It explains why god sees all of time, not just a linear version of it, and it explains how he has the ability to manipulate; matter, energy and time, because he is an integral part of all these things and they are a part of him. Thus, by an exercise of "will", he can transmute matter, convert energy into different forms, change possible futures etc etc. He can physically manifest in any form he choses any time and any where.
All of these abilities have been recorded time and time again, over centuries, even millenia, of human existence. In the modern world we need to ask, "Given that these experiences are real, what scientific possibilities exist to explain them?"
AMEN I have seen this way exactly...and the answer to the the last question NONE..,,those
who never see cant until the end..The battle is already Won..They will beg for mercy I believe
ZEB
My opinion is that the operation of the nervous system, the brain, is the actions of the Son according to the allowance of the Father, the heart. Or vice versa.
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 09:35 AM)
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB
ZEB,
I would have no issue with references to a generator remaining in our schools, bu it's the organized religion elements warped into an agenda to inspire deviation from the true self that is so detrimental. Unfortunately, those on the opposing end, for the most part, who want God removed want their perversions reinforced and celebrated, to which you already spoke.
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Aug 22 2007, 06:39 PM)
ZEB,
I would have no issue with references to a generator remaining in our schools, bu it's the organized religion elements warped into an agenda to inspire deviation from the true self that is so detrimental. Unfortunately, those on the opposing end, for the most part, who want God removed want their perversions reinforced and celebrated, to which you already spoke.
I would have no issue with references to a generator remaining in our schools, bu it's the organized religion elements warped into an agenda to inspire deviation from the true self that is so detrimental. Unfortunately, those on the opposing end, for the most part, who want God removed want their perversions reinforced and celebrated, to which you already spoke.
I agree about organized religion...I was born and Raised a Christian..with Jewish freinds all around me
lol,,,too many cooks dividing the pie,,,God is all around us His warmth is there just with the asking,,
as far as schools and government,,We need those 10 commandments..these are the only rules
we know of set down to organize our lives as human beings,,,no matter what or who your personal
God is..without any guildines for all to believe and think..we would be like alot of the generation
today...NO fear No guilt NO respect,,,and this is what I see with the kids that have no God in
their minds well until something bad happens to them...then who do they turn to who do t hey talk to
the ol how could you,,,I dont know,,I am in the music biz and its all sad...Music rules the way Generations
think..the way they dress the way the grow up ,,and for ever will influence their being...We need to
bring people back inside themselvs with music and praise to our lord from within oursleves,,Without
being a so called HOLY ROLLER,,,this is my quest and its a hard one...
ZEB
QUOTE(greggK @ Aug 22 2007, 06:29 PM)
My opinion is that the operation of the nervous system, the brain, is the actions of the Son according to the allowance of the Father, the heart. Or vice versa.
I think you would think about things a bit different if you had proof inside your mind that God is love
That the truth is so overlayed with crap from different beliefs of who is who in their own beliefs,
You dont need a church to talk to god...You dont need a preacher to confess your feelings,you need
to talk from you heart,,,as you said,,from the heart to the brain,,your heart is the lifeforce of your
physical existence and its always defined as where you love from...Your mind is your thoughts,
triggerd by emotions 90 pcnt of the time..Why does your heart hurt when you are hurt emotionally?
GOD IS LOVE,,your kindness your ways of being are driven my emotions,,wich are chemicals driven
by frequencies traveling thru your brain,,God has a frequency..as we all do ZEB
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 22 2007, 11:55 AM)
I agree about organized religion...I was born and Raised a Christian..with Jewish freinds all around me
lol,,,too many cooks dividing the pie,,,God is all around us His warmth is there just with the asking,,
as far as schools and government,,We need those 10 commandments..these are the only rules
we know of set down to organize our lives as human beings,,,no matter what or who your personal
God is..without any guildines for all to believe and think..we would be like alot of the generation
today...NO fear No guilt NO respect,,,and this is what I see with the kids that have no God in
their minds well until something bad happens to them...then who do they turn to who do t hey talk to
the ol how could you,,,I dont know,,I am in the music biz and its all sad...Music rules the way Generations
think..the way they dress the way the grow up ,,and for ever will influence their being...We need to
bring people back inside themselvs with music and praise to our lord from within oursleves,,Without
being a so called HOLY ROLLER,,,this is my quest and its a hard one...
ZEB
lol,,,too many cooks dividing the pie,,,God is all around us His warmth is there just with the asking,,
as far as schools and government,,We need those 10 commandments..these are the only rules
we know of set down to organize our lives as human beings,,,no matter what or who your personal
God is..without any guildines for all to believe and think..we would be like alot of the generation
today...NO fear No guilt NO respect,,,and this is what I see with the kids that have no God in
their minds well until something bad happens to them...then who do they turn to who do t hey talk to
the ol how could you,,,I dont know,,I am in the music biz and its all sad...Music rules the way Generations
think..the way they dress the way the grow up ,,and for ever will influence their being...We need to
bring people back inside themselvs with music and praise to our lord from within oursleves,,Without
being a so called HOLY ROLLER,,,this is my quest and its a hard one...
ZEB
I agree with this whole-heartedly. Sadly, those under the greatest influence of parasites can't seem to separate common sense commandments from the religious viral infection Caana illustrates. The Church did not invent common sense, nor can it copyright it, so the false connection is one I've recognized for many years as one of control and domination of this perceived reality (Which I didn't always recognize as perceived, but it doesn't make the aspect of that dominion any less harmful in what only exists superficially.).
What you said of praising our lord, inspiring ourselves as a whole with music, is another statement that would be easily misinterpreted and warped into a belief structure and sadistic killings to eliminate dissidents.
The praise from within ourselves, as I interpret you, as I view it myself, is an acknowledgment that we are integral parts of our generator. Praising our lord meaning respecting ourselves, knowing ourselves, and accepting our rightful places in universal communion with the true self.
What outlives the body and the mind?
What outlives evil, pain and suffering?
What is the source of love, beauty, truth and joy?
Think of that source as being self-conscious, as declaring to itself, "I Am".
You wake up in the morning and think, "I am alive, I am; but why am I?".
Where and what is your source?
Why do you have this thing called 'consciousness'?
Try to meditate on these things, then you may come to an understanding.
What outlives evil, pain and suffering?
What is the source of love, beauty, truth and joy?
Think of that source as being self-conscious, as declaring to itself, "I Am".
You wake up in the morning and think, "I am alive, I am; but why am I?".
Where and what is your source?
Why do you have this thing called 'consciousness'?
Try to meditate on these things, then you may come to an understanding.
What you said of praising our lord, inspiring ourselves as a whole with music, is another statement that would be easily misinterpreted and warped into a belief structure and sadistic killings to eliminate dissidents.
Yes it could..but that is only if it is taken to that extreme,,,If it truly can govern your emotions then it should be used as such,, in a good loving way besides sex ..If we
could just sit down meditate, with our God everymorning of our life, thru a song
that calls his frequencies to take you away from the everyday freqs of life that overwhelms us all, they sort of do it over in middle east everyday...but to much guilt ridden whats mine is not yours and i wish i had yours...There must be many universal frequencies that are not found yet,,,we are all a walking frequency machine,,what does what science wise
what does what spiritual wise,,its all new to us now..but I think along time ago much
more may have been known to a few,but never shown to the masses again for control
But I have seen things that are just beautiful and also ugly,,thru experimenting with
certain frequencies,,a musical spiritual science...we are all frequencies of trasmitted
information..every cell every star every planet every human all of it..Operates thru
freqs,,
ZEB
Yes it could..but that is only if it is taken to that extreme,,,If it truly can govern your emotions then it should be used as such,, in a good loving way besides sex ..If we
could just sit down meditate, with our God everymorning of our life, thru a song
that calls his frequencies to take you away from the everyday freqs of life that overwhelms us all, they sort of do it over in middle east everyday...but to much guilt ridden whats mine is not yours and i wish i had yours...There must be many universal frequencies that are not found yet,,,we are all a walking frequency machine,,what does what science wise
what does what spiritual wise,,its all new to us now..but I think along time ago much
more may have been known to a few,but never shown to the masses again for control
But I have seen things that are just beautiful and also ugly,,thru experimenting with
certain frequencies,,a musical spiritual science...we are all frequencies of trasmitted
information..every cell every star every planet every human all of it..Operates thru
freqs,,
ZEB
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 22 2007, 01:31 PM)
What you said of praising our lord, inspiring ourselves as a whole with music, is another statement that would be easily misinterpreted and warped into a belief structure and sadistic killings to eliminate dissidents.
Hi again, ZEB,
It's sad, isn't it? I could listen to your music and tell someone it was good without the individual bothering to convey my glee in using the term "good". That person might report back to you and declare in a humdrum tone, "Oh. He said it was just good."
In that scenario, I loved your music, as I might in reality, but when our language is filtered through the negative influence of parasites, the meaning can be degraded or entirely lost.
QUOTE
But I have seen things that are just beautiful and also ugly,,thru experimenting with
certain frequencies,,a musical spiritual science...we are all frequencies of trasmitted
information..every cell every star every planet every human all of it..Operates thru
freqs,,
certain frequencies,,a musical spiritual science...we are all frequencies of trasmitted
information..every cell every star every planet every human all of it..Operates thru
freqs,,
I think this is why people respond so well to music. Within our controlled environment, it's the positive inspiration forms, filtered through the generator as I see it, that bring us the greatest joy. I think it's also why we crave original music, original stories, etc. We want those changes, we long for freedom, and the music and other art forms stemming from that love in our true nature catapults us into a glimmer of what many of us forgot ourselves to be.
QUOTE(FrankBlunt @ Aug 22 2007, 10:47 PM)
Hi again, ZEB,
It's sad, isn't it? I could listen to your music and tell someone it was good without the individual bothering to convey my glee in using the term "good". That person might report back to you and declare in a humdrum tone, "Oh. He said it was just good."
In that scenario, I loved your music, as I might in reality, but when our language is filtered through the negative influence of parasites, the meaning can be degraded or entirely lost.
I think this is why people respond so well to music. Within our controlled environment, it's the positive inspiration forms, filtered through the generator as I see it, that bring us the greatest joy. I think it's also why we crave original music, original stories, etc. We want those changes, we long for freedom, and the music and other art forms stemming from that love in our true nature catapults us into a glimmer of what many of us forgot ourselves to be.
It's sad, isn't it? I could listen to your music and tell someone it was good without the individual bothering to convey my glee in using the term "good". That person might report back to you and declare in a humdrum tone, "Oh. He said it was just good."
In that scenario, I loved your music, as I might in reality, but when our language is filtered through the negative influence of parasites, the meaning can be degraded or entirely lost.
I think this is why people respond so well to music. Within our controlled environment, it's the positive inspiration forms, filtered through the generator as I see it, that bring us the greatest joy. I think it's also why we crave original music, original stories, etc. We want those changes, we long for freedom, and the music and other art forms stemming from that love in our true nature catapults us into a glimmer of what many of us forgot ourselves to be.
Well done..nicely put Frank
ZEB
I don't subscribe to organized religion however, I do believe in God. I believe our soul is "part of God" as God is the creator. My belief is that God is male AND female co-existing as A single entity. I also believe that the only way we can achieve complete and finial unification (after countless reincarnations) with God, is through the acquisition of knowlege having lived many lifetimes on this plane of existance, AND others!
Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
QUOTE(Glimmerman @ Aug 23 2007, 12:44 AM)
I don't subscribe to organized religion however, I do believe in God. I believe our soul is "part of God" as God is the creator. My belief is that God is male AND female co-existing as A single entity. I also believe that the only way we can achieve complete and finial unification (after countless reincarnations) with God, is through the acquisition of knowlege having lived many lifetimes on this plane of existance, AND others!
Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
Understood 100 percent...Only the Keys are lost for now. here...this may interest you
go to the bottom and go to myspace and then slip into Beyond Beyond homepage You might find our quest intresting
ZEB
QUOTE(Glimmerman @ Aug 22 2007, 05:44 PM)
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Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
Some of this knowlege is of course there for us in the teachings of "Jeshua Ben Joseph" (Jesus). As I believe Jesuha was part of the Gnostic Sect at Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls), who passed this sacred "inner knowlege" on to his followers. But it's not the actual words and parables of Jeshua that hold the key; but the ability to "read between the lines" (as his followers could). What we MUST realize and accept is that what we read in the four Gospels of the New Testament, have been written between 130 - 200 years AFTER Jesuah lived!!! Therefore how much of this "word of God" is correct? Or even acurate for that matter? No, our spiritual path is one of individualism, a path of meditation. We must learn to quiten our minds and "listen" to what our soul tells us through meditation; for when we listen to our soul, we hear God!!
N.B This is purely my belief, I respect all religions.
ONE God..... With many faces.
Interesting, you have it goin' on brother. This is actually what a lot of Unprogramed (liberal) Quakers believe.
We all must rise above the preprogramming I believe from my heart and soul,
but so so many different ways and different beliefs different tales,we must
look for God within our souls...
but so so many different ways and different beliefs different tales,we must
look for God within our souls...
i just think god lives in whoever believes in it. if you look for him inside of you, people will probably find it somehow.
I believe that God is a present force that created the universe, but all the concepts of being a fair loving god are just bumworts. I personally think he's an a******.
yeah, I know, not a very nice thing to say about the creator, but with unlimited power and he somehow cooks up the state of New Jersey? What ARE we to him?
yeah, I know, not a very nice thing to say about the creator, but with unlimited power and he somehow cooks up the state of New Jersey? What ARE we to him?
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 22 2007, 12:35 AM)
What is God to you??
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB
All is God and God is all, therefore we both live in God and God lives in us. Take it a step deeper and there is no "All", only God.
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 04:35 PM)
What is God to you??
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...
Remember me when you do find the "right," absolute answer(s), without any doubts, nor ifs and/or buts. I would really like to know...
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 04:35 PM)
Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
I can't blame them since they haven't talked to God, directly, and in a way, ignorance is bliss, a self defense (especialy on this particular arena). The thing is: If we say that we "know" God, then we are accountable for our actions, every minute moment. And since we, most people (excluding those who do dare to say they know God), are completely oblivious, we are at the mercy of the consequences of our actions. Consequences are not created by God, we caused them ourselves. And also, this world is a perfect machinery to polish us like gemstones.
Just my belief system, nothing absolute, nor concrete, but just the same until new and better set of logic comes along.
QUOTE(dlv @ Aug 24 2007, 07:22 AM)
Remember me when you do find the "right," absolute answer(s), without any doubts, nor ifs and/or buts. I would really like to know...
I can't blame them since they haven't talked to God, directly, and in a way, ignorance is bliss, a self defense (especialy on this particular arena). The thing is: If we say that we "know" God, then we are accountable for our actions, every minute moment. And since we, most people (excluding those who do dare to say they know God), are completely oblivious, we are at the mercy of the consequences of our actions. Consequences are not created by God, we caused them ourselves. And also, this world is a perfect machinery to polish us like gemstones.
Just my belief system, nothing absolute, nor concrete, but just the same until new and better set of logic comes along.
I can't blame them since they haven't talked to God, directly, and in a way, ignorance is bliss, a self defense (especialy on this particular arena). The thing is: If we say that we "know" God, then we are accountable for our actions, every minute moment. And since we, most people (excluding those who do dare to say they know God), are completely oblivious, we are at the mercy of the consequences of our actions. Consequences are not created by God, we caused them ourselves. And also, this world is a perfect machinery to polish us like gemstones.
Just my belief system, nothing absolute, nor concrete, but just the same until new and better set of logic comes along.
I dont think anyone could find the absolute answers and if the could they could not handle it,,and no I dont blame the young but it hurts my soul
being in the music biz...
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 24 2007, 07:28 AM)
I dont think anyone could find the absolute answers and if the could they could not handle it,,and no I dont blame the young but it hurts my soul
being in the music biz...
being in the music biz...
I know what you mean because I know that consequences can be very painful (if one survives them at all), and so on. We, however, live and learn. On the other hand, sites like these are a great way for older and wiser folks to express their concerns, life stories, not just for advise. The young ones could either take them, or leave them. One could see it as an online parenting. I, for one, take good care on what I write down on these forums because I know that there are "Watchers" around -- they are real.
Wonderful posts guys truly insightful
I believe the soul is eternal although I do believe all souls have a starting point and some are older than others, as when you know a child and think he/she is wise beyond there years. Most of us are here to learn but there are teachers amongst us. These are the people we are instinctually drawn to, not those who try to impose there beliefs upon us.
Travel the road of life with an open mind but listen to your instincts, if it doesn’t feel right that is probably not the path for you
God is truly eternal has no beginning and no end has always been
God is part of everything that has the spark of life not just the human race everything living is part of and connected through God
These are just my beliefs and my path everyone has their own path to follow
I believe the soul is eternal although I do believe all souls have a starting point and some are older than others, as when you know a child and think he/she is wise beyond there years. Most of us are here to learn but there are teachers amongst us. These are the people we are instinctually drawn to, not those who try to impose there beliefs upon us.
Travel the road of life with an open mind but listen to your instincts, if it doesn’t feel right that is probably not the path for you
God is truly eternal has no beginning and no end has always been
God is part of everything that has the spark of life not just the human race everything living is part of and connected through God
These are just my beliefs and my path everyone has their own path to follow
Some very wonderful things being said here..thank you all Zeb
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 10:35 AM)
What is God to you??
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB also my blog is now up check in say hello
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB also my blog is now up check in say hello
Well ok then... hello!
Thanks for the invite to vote. I actually vote #9...all of the above and too include what we dont see/hear.Tis the only thing that makes 'sense' to me anyway... then 'godANDscienceANDarts' could be in the schools and we could all live simpler and enjoy all our own books even? my 2bits... thanks for some great reading here!
QUOTE(1Storm Signals @ Aug 25 2007, 08:47 AM)
Well ok then... hello! Thanks for the invite to vote. I actually vote #9...all of the above and too include what we dont see/hear.
Tis the only thing that makes 'sense' to me anyway... then 'godANDscienceANDarts' could be in the schools and we could all live simpler and enjoy all our own books even? my 2bits... thanks for some great reading here!
Thanks for the invite to vote. I actually vote #9...all of the above and too include what we dont see/hear.Tis the only thing that makes 'sense' to me anyway... then 'godANDscienceANDarts' could be in the schools and we could all live simpler and enjoy all our own books even? my 2bits... thanks for some great reading here!
I agree...its all the way// all around us inside and out...zeb
QUOTE(quantrex @ Aug 24 2007, 12:56 PM)
Wonderful posts guys truly insightful
I believe the soul is eternal although I do believe all souls have a starting point and some are older than others, as when you know a child and think he/she is wise beyond there years. Most of us are here to learn but there are teachers amongst us. These are the people we are instinctually drawn to, not those who try to impose there beliefs upon us.
Travel the road of life with an open mind but listen to your instincts, if it doesn’t feel right that is probably not the path for you
God is truly eternal has no beginning and no end has always been
God is part of everything that has the spark of life not just the human race everything living is part of and connected through God
These are just my beliefs and my path everyone has their own path to follow
I believe the soul is eternal although I do believe all souls have a starting point and some are older than others, as when you know a child and think he/she is wise beyond there years. Most of us are here to learn but there are teachers amongst us. These are the people we are instinctually drawn to, not those who try to impose there beliefs upon us.
Travel the road of life with an open mind but listen to your instincts, if it doesn’t feel right that is probably not the path for you
God is truly eternal has no beginning and no end has always been
God is part of everything that has the spark of life not just the human race everything living is part of and connected through God
These are just my beliefs and my path everyone has their own path to follow
Very well put..zeb
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 29 2007, 07:55 PM)
Very well put..zeb
Yep, sounds great
QUOTE(libra II @ Aug 29 2007, 10:11 PM)
Yep, sounds great
A certain greek guy would have loved you for this
QUOTE(libra II @ Aug 29 2007, 08:13 PM)
A certain greek guy would have loved you for this
prbly so
Yeah, i reckon this quote sums up God quite well...
God does not exist. He is being itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore to argue that God exists is to deny him. ~ Paul Tillich
God does not exist. He is being itself beyond essence and existence. Therefore to argue that God exists is to deny him. ~ Paul Tillich
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 11:35 AM)
What is God to you??
.....and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
.....and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
This is so true, Zeb. Well, I once heard a very wise man say that in everything in our universe is a holographic image of God. If this is true, this would also explain how we humans have DNA in every one of our cells.
I also think if its true what that man said that we are all a part of the body of God, then the lawlessness we see now in society represents a sort of cancer in the body of God. And just as some people treat cancer by means of chemotherapy or surgery, the human cancer we have created in society will also be annihilated from the body of God.
Interesting thread! :-)
QUOTE(Isis2200 @ Aug 31 2007, 05:28 PM)
This is so true, Zeb. Well, I once heard a very wise man say that in everything in our universe is a holographic image of God. If this is true, this would also explain how we humans have DNA in every one of our cells.
I also think if its true what that man said that we are all a part of the body of God, then the lawlessness we see now in society represents a sort of cancer in the body of God. And just as some people treat cancer by means of chemotherapy or surgery, the human cancer we have created in society will also be annihilated from the body of God.
Interesting thread! :-)
I also think if its true what that man said that we are all a part of the body of God, then the lawlessness we see now in society represents a sort of cancer in the body of God. And just as some people treat cancer by means of chemotherapy or surgery, the human cancer we have created in society will also be annihilated from the body of God.
Interesting thread! :-)
This is a good theory...I feel this way alot the catholic money making machine does not interest me
rewritten entries.ETC..I know when I feel the warmth of God..its like no and i meam no feeling that
exists.....Its flowing warmth is llike no other feeling there is ZEB
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 22 2007, 02:05 AM)
What is God to you??
OPNIONS
ZEB
OPNIONS
ZEB
Consciousness.
When I do good, I feel good; when I do bad, I feel bad. That's my religion, thats my god. --Author Unknown
Maybe we shouldn't think in the terms of what God is, but what he is not. (For example, God is full of so much love that we cannot comprehend it, no matter how hard we try.)
I think god has many levels. At least, people call a lot of things god.
In regards to religious god:
I don't think there is one god, but there is a whole race of beings, some of which are more powerful than others.
Throughout history, people have chosen all kinds of gods to worship.
But there has always been one chief god among these, like Zeus or Alah or Jehowah. Which I think is all the same guy.
Other gods or "lesser" gods as they are called in some religions are what christianity calls angels.
For example bible mentions Apollion, which is considered an angel in christian churches, yet greeks called him god.
So basically, everything that came from the sky, people at one point called god.
The true hierarchy in the "heaven" is a questionable thing actually.
What I believe is that (I know most of you will think I'm totally crazy, specially after my stories of seizures and shooting stars)
life on earth from the begining till now was created and grown by these gods.
A lot of these creatures were inspired by, or made in image of these gods. Like dinosaurs, when they rulled
the earth were made in the image of reptilian people.
Now as Greek mythology describes, and so does Indian and a most other mythologies, at one point there was
a war between these gods, for dominion over earth.
My guess is that during that war, the reptilians lost control of earth and live underground since then.
After that, the new masters of the earth (the human lookalike white birded gods or Zeus generation, or Olympians, or
Jehowah and his angels etc.) created new lifeforms in their own image, including man.
Bible speaks of GODS not GOD in genesis. Elohim is a plural word for Eloah.
So these six days of creation can be though as long eras of dynasties of different gods. Last of which is the era of
our human god Zeus/Allah/JHWH in which the reptilians live underground.
Humans were made (as described in Sumerian mythology) as a slave force, but ate something
that gave them consciousness, and became aware like their creators. So the plan changed
and there is a long history of making the best of a failled plan.
Before the flood, the earth was much like the wildest fantasy or science fiction stories, where
gods, angels, demons, and all other kinds of creatures lived on earth, rulled humans,
matted with humans, and there was a constant war between them, which is best described in Hyndu mythology.
Or as the Bible says "continuous carnage"
so all the halfbreeds, and giants and gods and everything was destroyed in
a giant flood, caused by the gods in command.
This is where Atlantis, mu and other lands dissapeared, which were governed by rougue creatures from heaven.
These lands were rich in technology ("magic") which the creatures brought with them from heaven.
Later on Jews became the chosen people, and since a lot of the world was still descendants of
the pre-flood world (specially germanic nations), the world hated the Jews.
The best expression of this are the Nazis, who glorified the image of a blond race
which is superior to jews. Nazis (this is no mumbo jumbo, you can read about it, it has to do with Thule society in Germany between WW's) believed aryans are descendants of the people of Atlantis, and have a "pure" blood.
Of course they did, the people of Atlantis were half humans half angels (blondes), and felt they are superior
to "pure" humans.
etc. etc.
anyway, that is what I think gods are, and that is how I think the history of earth went.
Powerfull entities who built this world as it is and life on it, which exist both in physical world (as "aliens" if you will)
or in the "other world", and have technology beyond our understanding, even today which we can only call magic
but of course, beyond those gods, I tend to think that universe has a spirit of its own
something where all the ideas of good and evil come from, something even these gods tune into.
That would be something of a "spirit of the universe" kind of a god.
Non of this Is "supernatural" , because something supernatural by definition can not exist, if it does exist it is part of nature (universe) and is thus
natural .
It's just that all this is a part of a larger nature which is a little more complicated than today's science can understand or measure.
But I trust that as time goes by (unless we have the end of times at our hands), science will discover new
things which will explain a lot of aspects of reality that was once considered supernatural.
Even today some of our science is like pure magic to scientists of 17th century.
I'm not saying the rule of gods and angels is pure technology, I'm saying that they are so advanced that to
them technology is just an expression of will.
To us technology is like "cheating the universe" and using gadgets and wires, but to them it is almost as the Bible says "thy will be done"
In regards to religious god:
I don't think there is one god, but there is a whole race of beings, some of which are more powerful than others.
Throughout history, people have chosen all kinds of gods to worship.
But there has always been one chief god among these, like Zeus or Alah or Jehowah. Which I think is all the same guy.
Other gods or "lesser" gods as they are called in some religions are what christianity calls angels.
For example bible mentions Apollion, which is considered an angel in christian churches, yet greeks called him god.
So basically, everything that came from the sky, people at one point called god.
The true hierarchy in the "heaven" is a questionable thing actually.
What I believe is that (I know most of you will think I'm totally crazy, specially after my stories of seizures and shooting stars)
life on earth from the begining till now was created and grown by these gods.
A lot of these creatures were inspired by, or made in image of these gods. Like dinosaurs, when they rulled
the earth were made in the image of reptilian people.
Now as Greek mythology describes, and so does Indian and a most other mythologies, at one point there was
a war between these gods, for dominion over earth.
My guess is that during that war, the reptilians lost control of earth and live underground since then.
After that, the new masters of the earth (the human lookalike white birded gods or Zeus generation, or Olympians, or
Jehowah and his angels etc.) created new lifeforms in their own image, including man.
Bible speaks of GODS not GOD in genesis. Elohim is a plural word for Eloah.
So these six days of creation can be though as long eras of dynasties of different gods. Last of which is the era of
our human god Zeus/Allah/JHWH in which the reptilians live underground.
Humans were made (as described in Sumerian mythology) as a slave force, but ate something
that gave them consciousness, and became aware like their creators. So the plan changed
and there is a long history of making the best of a failled plan.
Before the flood, the earth was much like the wildest fantasy or science fiction stories, where
gods, angels, demons, and all other kinds of creatures lived on earth, rulled humans,
matted with humans, and there was a constant war between them, which is best described in Hyndu mythology.
Or as the Bible says "continuous carnage"
so all the halfbreeds, and giants and gods and everything was destroyed in
a giant flood, caused by the gods in command.
This is where Atlantis, mu and other lands dissapeared, which were governed by rougue creatures from heaven.
These lands were rich in technology ("magic") which the creatures brought with them from heaven.
Later on Jews became the chosen people, and since a lot of the world was still descendants of
the pre-flood world (specially germanic nations), the world hated the Jews.
The best expression of this are the Nazis, who glorified the image of a blond race
which is superior to jews. Nazis (this is no mumbo jumbo, you can read about it, it has to do with Thule society in Germany between WW's) believed aryans are descendants of the people of Atlantis, and have a "pure" blood.
Of course they did, the people of Atlantis were half humans half angels (blondes), and felt they are superior
to "pure" humans.
etc. etc.
anyway, that is what I think gods are, and that is how I think the history of earth went.
Powerfull entities who built this world as it is and life on it, which exist both in physical world (as "aliens" if you will)
or in the "other world", and have technology beyond our understanding, even today which we can only call magic
but of course, beyond those gods, I tend to think that universe has a spirit of its own
something where all the ideas of good and evil come from, something even these gods tune into.
That would be something of a "spirit of the universe" kind of a god.
Non of this Is "supernatural" , because something supernatural by definition can not exist, if it does exist it is part of nature (universe) and is thus
natural .
It's just that all this is a part of a larger nature which is a little more complicated than today's science can understand or measure.
But I trust that as time goes by (unless we have the end of times at our hands), science will discover new
things which will explain a lot of aspects of reality that was once considered supernatural.
Even today some of our science is like pure magic to scientists of 17th century.
I'm not saying the rule of gods and angels is pure technology, I'm saying that they are so advanced that to
them technology is just an expression of will.
To us technology is like "cheating the universe" and using gadgets and wires, but to them it is almost as the Bible says "thy will be done"
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 1 2007, 07:44 PM)
I think god has many levels. At least, people call a lot of things god.
In regards to religious god:
I don't think there is one god, but there is a whole race of beings, some of which are more powerful than others.
Throughout history, people have chosen all kinds of gods to worship.
But there has always been one chief god among these, like Zeus or Alah or Jehowah. Which I think is all the same guy.
Other gods or "lesser" gods as they are called in some religions are what christianity calls angels.
For example bible mentions Apollion, which is considered an angel in christian churches, yet greeks called him god.
So basically, everything that came from the sky, people at one point called god.
The true hierarchy in the "heaven" is a questionable thing actually.
What I believe is that (I know most of you will think I'm totally crazy, specially after my stories of seizures and shooting stars)
life on earth from the begining till now was created and grown by these gods.
A lot of these creatures were inspired by, or made in image of these gods. Like dinosaurs, when they rulled
the earth were made in the image of reptilian people.
Now as Greek mythology describes, and so does Indian and a most other mythologies, at one point there was
a war between these gods, for dominion over earth.
My guess is that during that war, the reptilians lost control of earth and live underground since then.
After that, the new masters of the earth (the human lookalike white birded gods or Zeus generation, or Olympians, or
Jehowah and his angels etc.) created new lifeforms in their own image, including man.
Bible speaks of GODS not GOD in genesis. Elohim is a plural word for Eloah.
So these six days of creation can be though as long eras of dynasties of different gods. Last of which is the era of
our human god Zeus/Allah/JHWH in which the reptilians live underground.
Humans were made (as described in Sumerian mythology) as a slave force, but ate something
that gave them consciousness, and became aware like their creators. So the plan changed
and there is a long history of making the best of a failled plan.
Before the flood, the earth was much like the wildest fantasy or science fiction stories, where
gods, angels, demons, and all other kinds of creatures lived on earth, rulled humans,
matted with humans, and there was a constant war between them, which is best described in Hyndu mythology.
Or as the Bible says "continuous carnage"
so all the halfbreeds, and giants and gods and everything was destroyed in
a giant flood, caused by the gods in command.
This is where Atlantis, mu and other lands dissapeared, which were governed by rougue creatures from heaven.
These lands were rich in technology ("magic") which the creatures brought with them from heaven.
Later on Jews became the chosen people, and since a lot of the world was still descendants of
the pre-flood world (specially germanic nations), the world hated the Jews.
The best expression of this are the Nazis, who glorified the image of a blond race
which is superior to jews. Nazis (this is no mumbo jumbo, you can read about it, it has to do with Thule society in Germany between WW's) believed aryans are descendants of the people of Atlantis, and have a "pure" blood.
Of course they did, the people of Atlantis were half humans half angels (blondes), and felt they are superior
to "pure" humans.
etc. etc.
anyway, that is what I think gods are, and that is how I think the history of earth went.
Powerfull entities who built this world as it is and life on it, which exist both in physical world (as "aliens" if you will)
or in the "other world", and have technology beyond our understanding, even today which we can only call magic
but of course, beyond those gods, I tend to think that universe has a spirit of its own
something where all the ideas of good and evil come from, something even these gods tune into.
That would be something of a "spirit of the universe" kind of a god.
Non of this Is "supernatural" , because something supernatural by definition can not exist, if it does exist it is part of nature (universe) and is thus
natural .
It's just that all this is a part of a larger nature which is a little more complicated than today's science can understand or measure.
But I trust that as time goes by (unless we have the end of times at our hands), science will discover new
things which will explain a lot of aspects of reality that was once considered supernatural.
Even today some of our science is like pure magic to scientists of 17th century.
I'm not saying the rule of gods and angels is pure technology, I'm saying that they are so advanced that to
them technology is just an expression of will.
To us technology is like "cheating the universe" and using gadgets and wires, but to them it is almost as the Bible says "thy will be done"
In regards to religious god:
I don't think there is one god, but there is a whole race of beings, some of which are more powerful than others.
Throughout history, people have chosen all kinds of gods to worship.
But there has always been one chief god among these, like Zeus or Alah or Jehowah. Which I think is all the same guy.
Other gods or "lesser" gods as they are called in some religions are what christianity calls angels.
For example bible mentions Apollion, which is considered an angel in christian churches, yet greeks called him god.
So basically, everything that came from the sky, people at one point called god.
The true hierarchy in the "heaven" is a questionable thing actually.
What I believe is that (I know most of you will think I'm totally crazy, specially after my stories of seizures and shooting stars)
life on earth from the begining till now was created and grown by these gods.
A lot of these creatures were inspired by, or made in image of these gods. Like dinosaurs, when they rulled
the earth were made in the image of reptilian people.
Now as Greek mythology describes, and so does Indian and a most other mythologies, at one point there was
a war between these gods, for dominion over earth.
My guess is that during that war, the reptilians lost control of earth and live underground since then.
After that, the new masters of the earth (the human lookalike white birded gods or Zeus generation, or Olympians, or
Jehowah and his angels etc.) created new lifeforms in their own image, including man.
Bible speaks of GODS not GOD in genesis. Elohim is a plural word for Eloah.
So these six days of creation can be though as long eras of dynasties of different gods. Last of which is the era of
our human god Zeus/Allah/JHWH in which the reptilians live underground.
Humans were made (as described in Sumerian mythology) as a slave force, but ate something
that gave them consciousness, and became aware like their creators. So the plan changed
and there is a long history of making the best of a failled plan.
Before the flood, the earth was much like the wildest fantasy or science fiction stories, where
gods, angels, demons, and all other kinds of creatures lived on earth, rulled humans,
matted with humans, and there was a constant war between them, which is best described in Hyndu mythology.
Or as the Bible says "continuous carnage"
so all the halfbreeds, and giants and gods and everything was destroyed in
a giant flood, caused by the gods in command.
This is where Atlantis, mu and other lands dissapeared, which were governed by rougue creatures from heaven.
These lands were rich in technology ("magic") which the creatures brought with them from heaven.
Later on Jews became the chosen people, and since a lot of the world was still descendants of
the pre-flood world (specially germanic nations), the world hated the Jews.
The best expression of this are the Nazis, who glorified the image of a blond race
which is superior to jews. Nazis (this is no mumbo jumbo, you can read about it, it has to do with Thule society in Germany between WW's) believed aryans are descendants of the people of Atlantis, and have a "pure" blood.
Of course they did, the people of Atlantis were half humans half angels (blondes), and felt they are superior
to "pure" humans.
etc. etc.
anyway, that is what I think gods are, and that is how I think the history of earth went.
Powerfull entities who built this world as it is and life on it, which exist both in physical world (as "aliens" if you will)
or in the "other world", and have technology beyond our understanding, even today which we can only call magic
but of course, beyond those gods, I tend to think that universe has a spirit of its own
something where all the ideas of good and evil come from, something even these gods tune into.
That would be something of a "spirit of the universe" kind of a god.
Non of this Is "supernatural" , because something supernatural by definition can not exist, if it does exist it is part of nature (universe) and is thus
natural .
It's just that all this is a part of a larger nature which is a little more complicated than today's science can understand or measure.
But I trust that as time goes by (unless we have the end of times at our hands), science will discover new
things which will explain a lot of aspects of reality that was once considered supernatural.
Even today some of our science is like pure magic to scientists of 17th century.
I'm not saying the rule of gods and angels is pure technology, I'm saying that they are so advanced that to
them technology is just an expression of will.
To us technology is like "cheating the universe" and using gadgets and wires, but to them it is almost as the Bible says "thy will be done"
You have definitely given me something to think about.
Part of me thinks that we were never supposed to figure out what God is. Just to know that we are loved, always.
QUOTE(ZEB @ Aug 21 2007, 06:35 PM)
What is God to you??
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB also my blog is now up check in say hello
#1 A man we are in image of sitting on a throne in Heaven?
#2 A mass programming?
#3 Nature's way involving DNA
#4 A way of defining right or wrong alias good or evil in our own guilts
#5 Fear of nature from the start of the caveman
#6 Does god live in us or do we live in god
Thats a few there are tons more I could say...but you can also add your belief of what you think God is
SOME think we live inside his entity..since the Universe and god is all percieved by our thinking minds
it is us that think of him and as far as we know only humans think of God
Others say no GOD There so many different Religions and tribes and beliefs,its the typical
my God is the real God...and Now God is being taken out of schools government buildings
and Here we thought this country was built upon the belief of his existence. Our children of
today have no fear of God which means no Guilt from wrong doing in a way .
OPNIONS ZEB also my blog is now up check in say hello
God or Elohim is just a neighbour of mine
Sorry to disappoint you all
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 2 2007, 09:15 PM)
God or Elohim is just a neighbour of mine
Sorry to disappoint you all
Sorry to disappoint you all
Gee, how clever???
QUOTE(dlv @ Sep 3 2007, 12:28 AM)
Gee, how clever???
Yep, it took 40 years planing the whole sentence
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