I am just interested in finding out:
who believes what?
and what was it that brought you to the conclusion that it is the correct belief or lack there of a belief?

and NO i have no ulterior motive for asking this question, im just genuinely interested.

I believe in reincarnarnation, I don't believe in a higher deity. Came to this due to personal experiences and looking at the world.

i believe that belief is meaningless in the eyes of God, truth or that which you refer it to because they are self evident.

I believe that- I am what i am,
I will be what i will be.

I am an Agnostic with a Pagan bent. A Pagan bent what? If you've got Pagan tendencies then there is probably something bent if not entirely broken. See now I'm having a conversation with myself, something definately wrong there.

Shut up
No you shut up...

Alright momentry insanity over. I came to these beliefs by spending hours and hours moderating at U.M. I have argued with the best and the worst U.M. has to offer and all of these challenges have given me insights as to who I am and why.

LOL, Kismit! I do that, too, but usually in my head.

I believe in reincarnation, that Nature is the higher power if you want to call it that and that we have lost our connection to nature, and this is what is causing so much unrest with our society.

I am a Neo-Celtic Druid and that is all I am going to say cause Kitmit told me to Shhhh.

I am a Noachide Chassid, which is a person who is a Gentile but follows the teachings of Orthodox Judaism. I was led to this decision after a few months of study and coming to the realization that Jezuz was not the Messiah. Then after making such realization I looked into my personal relationship with God and realized a lack of Jezuz in the talks I have had with God. Then I realized that I lied about all the experiences, or rather, made them up. In any case, I feel I am now in the place God wants me to be...whereas before I didn't have that assurance.

I'm also an agnostic with a pagan bent.

My intellect is Agnostic but my soul/instincts/emotional brain is Pagan to the core.

DW, Where you really listening properly?

I follow a mix of a few different beliefs, LaVeyan Satanism, Mahayana Buddhism,(those two are very hard to mix by the way....my beliefs are dam near contradictory ) the principles of Chaos Magic, and a few other random beliefs that are my own personal ones.

In my opinion, every god exists, but none of them are gods. I don't really believe in an afterlife, but I don't claim that I know for a fact there isn't one. Of course I also believe in science if you call that a belief. Actually, a lot of the Chaos Magic principles are held together by quantum mechanics theory.

I don't know I think that's what she said.

I was raised catholic but now consider myself Agnostic.

Having become a victim of social-perturbation throughout the indoctrination of any religion you care to mention, with open-faced Evil incorporated as a wielded might of their own innermost cause; I can tell you from my perspective it is dogmatic and a belief system that is wrapped around any idea/notion of convenience for the sole purpose of feeling good, while doing things that should never enter into a religious meaning.

I've been screamed at in the name of God, Allah, deities for Buddhism, Satanic, and the ever pesky Wiccans. There may be something underlying that drives the belief, but the belief itself incorporates entirely too much will on the behalf of the one who can have no fault, and do no wrong.

i believe every religion is right. i believe we all worship the same god yet we each him a differn't name. i do believe jesus was the son of god, i believe he actually might have traveled everywhere to teach. in the bible he skippes from age 12 to 30 so what was going on in between then, i feel he was traveling a teaching. that's just my theory. native americans have said they already knew of jesus to the missionarys. there are reports of jesus in india. anyway, even if a religion does not know of jesus i believe god has sent prophits to them. i also study the teaching of what i think are three major prophits of god. the prophit of self (buddah) the prophit of god (muhammid) and the son of god (jesus). yes, i think buddah was sent by god to teach us to think to enlighten ourselfs. even the story of buddah says he was sent down from heaven. anyway that's what i believe.

i believe in the Living God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit....The promise of eternal life through the Saving Grace of Jesus Christ....John 3:16, For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life....i came to believe because of overwhelming evidence in my personal life...i am living proof of His mercy and grace.

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Well I just believe in LOVE. People can call LOVE God, Jesus, Krishna, Janis Joplin, Elvis or whatever they want, but as long as they are talking about LOVE, then I see no problem about what they call it.

How did I conclude that LOVE is the answer? I suppose I was sick and tired of peoples need to hate, their need to put others down and their need to set themselves above others in order to accept themselves - something we've all been taught to do for various reasons. Bad religion in my opinion and indeed bad everything.

I don’t mind a joke now and again though

Nice thread, ZJ

I believe the universe is a beautiful arangement of atoms.

I believe that we're all incredibly lucky to be alive, when you consider all the things which had to happen for us to come about. If it had been a different sperm I wouldnt be here.

I believe we're all lucky to be alive in an era with great artists across the entire spectrum. I consider myself lucky to be in a world with Bob Dylan, Frank Herbert and Martin Scorcese. I also consider myself lucky that we live in a world where artistic expression usually wins out against censorship.

I believe we're lucky that we're going to die, since a near infinite number of people wont get the chance because they'll never be born.

And on a grim note, I believe anyone who knows they're absolutely right about anything, is either insane or a fraud. That includes the above things plus all the claims made by religion.

I believe what I observe. I decided about a year ago since I would not conform myself to any religion I should devise my own moral code. It has worked very well, much more effective than avoiding insignificant sins. I like to feel good. What goes around comes around.

I have to be a man of science, so I can make my high irrational thoughts (which are fully rational to me) understandable to others. I suppose my indulgence in science is a way to make me seem sane to society.

I also believe mathematics is everything. A universal language on par with telepathy.

"That's right. I believe in God, and if it turns out that there really isn't one, OK. Nothing lost. But if it turns out that there is -- I'm covered." -- MICHAEL (Boys In The Band)

And death is not the end..., and even if it is the end, "no more life" (after one's physical-death) is, Eternal Rest, also a GREAT relief. Just my belief system.

I'm a Quaker. I believe that the inner Light exists in everyone in some measure and because of this, I do not believe there is any one true path.

"You will say Christ saith this, and the apostles say this, but what canst thou say? Art thou a child of Light and hast thou walked in the Light, and what thou speakest is it inwardly from the God?"
George Fox.

I used to be Atheist, but after some long thinking I've decided to become an Agnostic.

there are a thousand different religions in the world and a thousand different ways of interpreting those thousand religions i really dont think that anyone of them has got it right. god doesnt think any of us has got it right just yet because we're not worthy of it. we kill each other, we let others walk all over us, we kill defenceless things and we honour dumb animals. we build huge fortunes for ourselves whilst we let children go hungry and all of us do not do enough to change things or do the things that should be done. we are even killing the earth. when she goes we all go and god will have the last word on all of us
See What I Have Given You And You Have Destroyed It.

Pray. I love you.

Min xx

there is only one truth
every lie leads back to truth.

what do I believe ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPs7-5feq-M

I believe we all go back to bob. anything less is less than perfect.

that reminded me of this quote for some reason -

"When I die and come before the heavenly court, if they ask me, 'Zusha, why were you not Abraham?' I'll say that I didn't have Abraham's intellectual abilities. If they say, 'Why were you not Moses?' I'll say I didn't have Moses' leadership abilities. For every such question, I'll have an answer. But if they say, 'Zusha, why were you not Zusha?' for that, I'll have no answer."

Rabbi Zusha -

I quite frankly believe in myself. I've never found anything else to believe in.

I find the idea of an after life cheapens this life.

What is the value of a mortal existence when compared to the eternity we apparently exist for. It seems pointless to me

I believe in rum.. I can see it, taste it, feel it, buy it, and worship it. X)

I don't believe in anything. I think we are just another animal trying to make our way through the world. From what I have seen if there is any type of God, he is clear incompetent or evil.

I agree with the above comments.

The commandments of men taught me that the importance of this life was to live for the promise of a future paradise, and encouraged me to give my power away.

The commandments of Life empowered me, and made me aware of the importance of savoring every moment in the here and now, for life can be so fragile.

It has been said that the kingdom of heaven is within us all, now.

That hidden treasure we seek is love and acceptance of ourselves, unconditionally, and a desire to find meaning through self-expression.

Only then, are we truly capable of loving others. Only then will we find world peace, for it begins with finding peace within ourselves first.

That will never come about if we are constantly being made aware of our own shortcomings, and that we are only capable of greatness outside of ourselves.

I believe in life!!! We can't prove there is an afterlife. Why take the chance by not living every moment to the fullest while we have the chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7T5UnipKQQ

~V

I am a studying Druid at this time. I do not believe in a hell I do not not believe that we we're born into sin & that we make our own choices in life& that we choose our own path.

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons.)

I am a Christian at least partially, perhaps wholly, because I was born into a mostly Christian family. This is probably a part of why a Christian paradigm holds sway. I do believe that my religion is true though, so I must state I believe I would be regardless of my prior upbringing.

As to being Mormon, my family has an immediate broad religious base while I have ancestors including Joseph Smith Jr. My familial religious experience includes Baptist, Lutheran, Mormon, Fundamentalist Mormon (although not FLDS), Wiccan, Catholic, non-Denominational Evandgelical, Scientologist, Methodist, Buddhist, Shinto, Hindu, Baha'i, Sikh and Muslim. There may be a few others I am forgetting, but these are existent in my family and those practicing are strongly active in their religions and are not merely name only religious individuals.

I grew up in Europe although born in the US. I moved back to the US for my High School education and completed callege and Graduate School achieving my Associates in Computer Science, my Bachelors in Physics, Masters and Doctorate in Behavior Analysis with some emphasis in Autism and Organizational Behavior Management.

I believe strongly in science and logic.

In my study of Christian faiths I decided that the majority of Christian faiths have little scientific truth and will disregard science out of hand if it conflicts with their position, regardless of their desire to have their members educated. I believe the LDS faith is less inclined towards this.

I believe that the logic that exists in the LDS view of God is lacking in the Trinitarian position. Given this aspect, the LDS faith is the only choice.

The LDS faith offers a more comprehensive belief as to the afterlife. I believe this is important in a religion, most other Christian religions only have some vague idea.

The LDS faith has a God that is not hypocritical. In most other Christian faiths God is rather hypocritical espousing his followers to behave in a manner that he himself does not.

Finally, from what I understand of heaven and God from those of other faiths, as well as my own research, I would rather go to hell than belong to most othe Christian faiths.

And so, I am a Mormon.

If you have further questions please ask them in the "Ask a Mormon thread.

I am a weak deist. I believe that if there is a God, which I deem is likely, I should not be incredibly concerned with God as he is probably not too terribly concerned with me. I came to this conclusion because I saw many religions around me draped in foolishness and lies, not in the doctrine so to say but in the leaders of the congregation. I decided that a theistic life was not for me, so I opted for a life of quiet humanism.
I am also a strong supporter of the methods of logic and science. I think science is one of the most wonderful and awe inspiring tools man has at his disposal. The universe is the most awesome thing in my mind. I love to look up at the stars and wonder what's going on all those light years away from me.

Really, what I believe is the quantum existence of anything and therefore everything has a begining and an end, but there is a remainder that is there for the next existence to copy and the remainder could be anything from the ability to start a fire to the ability to split the atom.

strong supporter of the methods and logic of science but teh god is likley
:/

the messenger will always be weaker than the original message. even your chosen god of science obeys this premise.
God is concerned over you. He is troubled by your troubles, but is not about to make you love Him, or force you to think His way or even a certain way or do a certain thing... If you love Him you do so at your own desire. we do not have children to have someone who will love us...we just have children because we love children.

Min xx

That is Excellent!
But, in the day to day field, there is a buffer. A layer of protection. This layer you make. You may not have the control over the process of making the layer but you have control over how the layer is made. For example, you do not have the choice of making a living for yourself, but you have a choice of how you make your living.
And the choices are getting slimmer and slimmer because the supply of life giving elements have become less than the demand.
And to give ourselves as a group more options of living, the groups have invented things and other safe means of survival; which I don't know is wrong, we have survived thus far.



Yes, life is so fragile, it can break even, and man, does that hurt!
But you know, since there is granted to us a time of renewal in every fiber, how can that be considered other than heaven within each one of us?

Same here Kismit. I've been awed and horrified, lol...but I've learned a lot, and I love the fact that I'm taken out of my comfort zone. It's really made me step back and think about things.




Thank you Gregg.



I like that!!!

I believe in myself.
I believe i make mistakes and i learn from them as well.
I believe that there is nothing called Fate nor God or Gods
I believe i am the maker of my own Destiny
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I believe I am Superman..But i am not a fool to wear my undies over my pants and jump off a building..after all ..what if something believe in isnt true??

I'm a bit of a fan of Native American Spirituality/Culture. They don't regard their spiritual beliefs and practices as a "religion" in the way in which, say for eg many Christians do. Their beliefs and practices form a integral and seamless part of their very being, they're are part of the earth the earth a part of them, ya know the web/circle of life stuff that we're all apart of, they saw 'all' life as sacred etc etc...

Theres so much more to it than that, but i think i developed a headache just from typing that.

You misunderstood me. My God, forgiving the notion that there may not be one, is not a "God of Science". My idea is that God is abstract. He is not a physical part of our world, and thus not provable by empirical means.

i beleive bill hicks couldnt have summed it up any better:

"all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. we are gods perfect and holy thoughts and we live in his mind, there is no reason to suffer or lack. Ever"

Native Lands Spirituality/Culture is the way I look at it. The entire tribal race of men from sea to sea top to bottom side to side on all continents had the same general meanings in there Cultures. They all were protective of their land and their families and they were supplied with the means to express themselves and help themselves where they were. And that for a long time.
There was no need for any thoughts of separateness because it was a learning experience for a tribe to observe other cultures. That may be where the totems got their meanings from, by observation of animals.
The people in the tribes used the totems to emulate or compete with the animals of the land and instruct the young. And, I believe, from the meanings given to the totem, a Spirituality developed through the tales by the elders, especially around the campfires.
I don't know what caused the appearance of life eating disease other than the usual decay of living matter, but it became extreme. Probably because Queen Lizzy-babe was looking for a place to go to to get away from the disease coming from her left. Anyway, the disease destroyed the culture.
And with the destruction of the culture of the whole entity of the earth, parts survived. Some survived as spiritual tales like a totem.
Men like to compete with their own mind. I guess it is an inbred trait to learn about your own culture and you have to think about the saying, 'If you don't know the past, you're doomed to repeat it.'
And that stops any movement of returning to the past.
Pockets of the past still remain, but you have to know what the present is made from.

I beleave we are all slaves to secret "Cat lords" thats right HOUSE CATS!

but anyway more so on topic
I only beleave in myself...

and monster teapots too
I mean ummm no!

ah do you mean agnostic then ? sorry, I don't mean to offend, golly i've done enough of that on other threads this week but i always saw agnostics as ppl who were not of strong enough conviction either way to believe or disbelieve - sort of a limp middle ground. anyway by god of science i didn't mean that you worship science just that it provides you with satisfaction fullfillent or reason d'etre whatever you want to call it. good for you if it does. everyone needs something to provide those things.

love Min xx

now as an agnostic I believe in God. inter and out of this universe = unmeasurable be means of a brain and understanding as small as ours ...... yet accepting the possibility there may not be a "God". Maybe nothing more than a collection of 'us'. Since God can not be proven since then that would make it less than God like and tangible,

maybe it isn't the limp middle ground you see , but the honest truth you can't.

No, you didn't offend me, I was just correcting you no harm no foul. I suppose I am agnostic, but were I to define my beliefs on God (if there is one) I would say that I am a deist. Deists do not believe that God directly interacts with the physical universe, and, if there is a God, I would find this most truthful.

I think it's pretty obvious by my name that I am an Atheist. I am because I am I guess...

I just simply cannot accept the idea of a God or afterlife etc. My mind is just to logical I guess.

I am myself, and only that. Whatever happens later is the future me's problem.