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andymonk
Is this symbol the COMPLETE ancient flower of life? I would appreciate any opinions. ohmy.gif Click to view attachment
andymonk
I believe the symbol is the COMPLETE ancient flower of life. The complete flower of life is an interdimensional tool,a portal,a link back to awareness of the universal consciousness(god,the collective unconscious or whatever you would like to call it). The universal consciousness we were all part of before we entered this material world. The original flower of life(found in "the osireion" at abydos in egypt)is incomplete because it is only the first layer of three(pics). The complete flower has the other two layers added,making it three dimensional(first post). If you relax(sit three feet away from the screen)and let the flower slowly draw your eyes out of focus,the flower will open. Try and not focus on any one point,blankly stare,take the flower in as a whole. Do not strain your eyes,as it will happen naturally. We do not see with our eyes,we see THROUGH our eyes. Let your mind focus,dont fight it. You may get a headache and itchy eyes,this will quickly disappear. This is not a known science,but if you let it happen,you will be supprised by what appears. blink.gif 4love and light 2all original.gif x The complete ancient flower of life is not a stereogram,a magic eye image or any other man made optical illusion. Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
andymonk
The complete ancient flower of life contains the tree,the fruit,the egg and the seed of life(pic1). The complete flower also contains the three dimensional metatron cube which holds all the platonic solids(pic2+3). Not just the building blocks of life,but the building blocks of creation itself. original.gif x http://www.sangraal.com/library/dedicated.htm Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment

dethstalker
Anyone notice a similarity between the flower/cube and the depiction of heaven in Revelations??? Maybe it is just me...
andymonk
The oldest and original incomplete fol is found on several pillars within "the osireion" at abydos in egypt. The osireion(the tomb of osiris)is known to be the oldest building in egypt. To this day,no egyptologists or archaeologists can or wont give a date for the flower. Neither will they explain why,who or what the flower was put there for. Any opinions? I believe the flower has been delibarately ignored by mainstream science,so world secret societies can keep the flowers secrets hidden. sad.gif http://www.users.bigpond.com/MSN/gary_fletcher/osireion.html http://www.grahamhancock.com/library/fotg/c45-5.htm
Celestine_Lily
Okay, I don't mean to sound stupid, but what in blazes are we talking about? Why is it important? What makes these images "complete" as opposed to incomplete images? What are they supposed to mean?
greggK
QUOTE(andymonk @ Aug 23 2007, 02:54 PM) *
Is this symbol the COMPLETE ancient flower of life? I would appreciate any opinions. ohmy.gif Click to view attachment



That symbol is the earth and its matrix with its ley lines.

The 3rd symbol that andymonk put up there is the 'Merkabah.' Well, not quite.

The Merkabah is a four sided triangle on top of an inverted four sided triangle with you in the middle, but that is as close as I can tell.
andymonk
QUOTE(greggK @ Aug 26 2007, 12:27 AM) *
That symbol is the earth and its matrix with its ley lines.

The 3rd symbol that andymonk put up there is the 'Merkabah.' Well, not quite.

The Merkabah is a four sided triangle on top of an inverted four sided triangle with you in the middle, but that is as close as I can tell.

Hi greggK, Your right as far as the ley lines are concerned. If you get a map and overlay it with the complete flower,every ancient site will be at the centre of six points. In the future,i will be giving the scale of the map and the circles required to prove this. I found this image,that gives a rough idea of how the earth looks with the overlay. The person who drew this was on the right lines,but he didnt have the complete flower to finish his work. original.gif x Click to view attachment
ethereal scout
Since when did Disney Land become a sacred site?

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Pax Unum
what religion/belief is this based on?, since the earth is billions of years old, how does God and creation fit into this? or does this 'sacred geometry' only work if you're a religious believer... just wondering
andymonk
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Aug 28 2007, 12:34 AM) *
what religion/belief is this based on?, since the earth is billions of years old, how does God and creation fit into this? or does this 'sacred geometry' only work if you're a religious believer... just wondering
This theory is based on my own belief,it has nothing to do with religion. Sacred geometry is thousands of years older than any known religion. I believe all religions were created by world secret societies,to hide how sacred geometry links the whole of humanity together.
andymonk
QUOTE(Celestine_Lily @ Aug 25 2007, 05:25 PM) *
Okay, I don't mean to sound stupid, but what in blazes are we talking about? Why is it important? What makes these images "complete" as opposed to incomplete images? What are they supposed to mean?
The first image is the original flower of life,which i believe is incomplete. The second image is the complete flower. Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
WolfAvers314
it's a very interesting image...

now, when you say that ancient sites correspond with it, how are you aligning it? It seems that I can rotate the image of the earth and make any site align with any point on there.
andymonk
QUOTE(WolfAvers314 @ Aug 28 2007, 10:41 PM) *
it's a very interesting image...

now, when you say that ancient sites correspond with it, how are you aligning it? It seems that I can rotate the image of the earth and make any site align with any point on there.

The image of the earth should be aligned to true north and the flower should be overlayed as it is presented.
Emma_Acid
Hmmm. Smacks of new age mumbo jumbo to me. You could get any fractal image and say it has "dimensions" and that at less complicated states it is "incomplete". But it isn't, and there is no scientific argument for it (how is it an "interdimensional tool" for example?), let alone proof.

And if your controlled experiment on the image is simply staring at it, then sorry, this is so far away from quantifiable science as to make it barely worth bothering with.
SunnyOutlook
I'm going off of memory here, but didn't the Mayans use the circle to help them design buildings? I believe they used circles overlayed on top of other circles to come up with right angles, etc. I may be way off base here, like I said I'm going off of memory.

Also, isn't there some kind of mathematical formula that is found throughout nature?

Anyway, this is interesting, whether you believe it or not. It has been said that math is a universal language.
ethereal scout
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Also, isn't there some kind of mathematical formula that is found throughout nature?


Think there are some 'constants' of sorts - but can't mind what they are.

There's one with a sort of spiral - that's ever decreasing - looks like a snail shell or similar.

Then there's DaVinci's something or other man.

Hope that helps.
War-Junkie
Looks like someone when nuts with a spirograph to me.
andymonk
This may be of interest. I believe,the symbol on this knights templar tombstone(pic1),found in the st magnus cathedral,kirkwall,orkney,scotland(pic2),is a representation of the egg of life(sacred geometry,pic3),which is found within the first layer of the complete flower of life. original.gif x Any opinions? Click to view attachment Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
andymonk
Sacred geometry predates any known religion by thousands of years. I believe,all religions were created by world secret societies,to hide how sacred geometry links the whole of humanity together. Does anyone know which religious figure was supposed to have used this symbol,as an emblem for him and his followers? wink2.gif Click to view attachment
SunnyOutlook
QUOTE(andymonk @ Aug 30 2007, 11:39 AM) *
Sacred geometry predates any known religion by thousands of years. I believe,all religions were created by world secret societies,to hide how sacred geometry links the whole of humanity together. Does anyone know which religious figure was supposed to have used this symbol,as an emblem for him and his followers? wink2.gif
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It's the symbol Christians used to identify one another. One Christian would draw half of the figure in the sand when he met up with someone, then if the other individual completed the diagram, then they each knew they were Christian. This was when Christians were persecuted and found this way to communicate with others without fearing for their life. Interesting, but I'm not sure it was based on your sacred geometry. I think the symbol was used because of what Jesus told his Apostles, He would make them fishers of men.
andymonk
Unlike other mandala,the complete ancient flower of life has no design,measurement or straight lines. The complete flower grows organically from the first circle onwards,it draws itself. This is one of the reasons why the flower is called the creation mandala. I forgot to add...... the flower should be contemplated in darkness,only have the computer on,no lights. original.gif
When Black Roses Bloom
QUOTE(SunnyOutlook @ Aug 30 2007, 10:54 PM) *
It's the symbol Christians used to identify one another. One Christian would draw half of the figure in the sand when he met up with someone, then if the other individual completed the diagram, then they each knew they were Christian. This was when Christians were persecuted and found this way to communicate with others without fearing for their life. Interesting, but I'm not sure it was based on your sacred geometry. I think the symbol was used because of what Jesus told his Apostles, He would make them fishers of men.


This symbol is called ICHTHIS in greek (ΙΧΘΥΣ = Ιησούς Χριστός Θεού Υιός Σωτήρ/Jesus Christ Son of God Saviour). I think that is why the used the fish as a proto-christianic symbol (despite the fact that Jesus said that they will be fishers of men, or perhaps that was another reason to use that symbol).
greggK
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Aug 27 2007, 05:34 PM) *
what religion/belief is this based on?, since the earth is billions of years old, how does God and creation fit into this? or does this 'sacred geometry' only work if you're a religious believer... just wondering


Actually,the belief is Celtic and it shows how young we all all are even though we are about a million years old. Yes, it's us. We are not as old as the planet. But, time after time we have to re-cycle. That is everybody. We do not journey outside this planet because we can't. With the evolution of everything except the mind, we can't. Oh, you can say that the mind grows, but it doesn't. Pardon the contractions.
Harte
QUOTE(andymonk @ Aug 30 2007, 11:37 AM) *
This may be of interest. I believe,the symbol on this knights templar tombstone(pic1),found in the st magnus cathedral,kirkwall,orkney,scotland(pic2),is a representation of the egg of life(sacred geometry,pic3),which is found within the first layer of the complete flower of life. original.gif x Any opinions?


Yeah, since you asked, I have an opinion.

It is my opinion that you are so horribly, horribly wrong that you're coming around the bend towards right.

There are no such things as ley lines. Locations of "sacred" ancients sites do not correspond to any discernible geometric pattern, and you need to get out every once in a while, dude!

QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Aug 29 2007, 04:02 AM) *
Hmmm. Smacks of new age mumbo jumbo to me.

Emma,
"Smacks of" is far too kind. This stuff makes New Age mumbo jumbo look like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason!!!

QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Aug 29 2007, 04:02 AM) *
And if your controlled experiment on the image is simply staring at it, then sorry, this is so far away from quantifiable science as to make it barely worth bothering with.

This is true. It is barely worth bothering with. I haven't bothered since my first post in this silly thread.

So, why are we here bothering with it again??? grin2.gif

Harte
God_Of_War
In ancient Greece there were 3 sacred temples that they were paying tribute to the Olympus Gods...The one was In Peloponissos, the 2nd in Thesally,and the last in Athens.These buildings have exactly the same distance beetween them...Not even a cm difference
andymonk
QUOTE(God_Of_War @ Aug 31 2007, 11:00 PM) *
In ancient Greece there were 3 sacred temples that they were paying tribute to the Olympus Gods...The one was In Peloponissos, the 2nd in Thesally,and the last in Athens.These buildings have exactly the same distance beetween them...Not even a cm difference
Interesting. If you drew a circle around each temple,you would have the first three circles of the flower of life. Also known as the trinity which holds the triquetra. wink2.gif Click to view attachment Click to view attachment
andymonk
QUOTE(Harte @ Aug 31 2007, 05:54 PM) *
Yeah, since you asked, I have an opinion.

It is my opinion that you are so horribly, horribly wrong that you're coming around the bend towards right.

There are no such things as ley lines. Locations of "sacred" ancients sites do not correspond to any discernible geometric pattern, and you need to get out every once in a while, dude!
Emma,
"Smacks of" is far too kind. This stuff makes New Age mumbo jumbo look like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason!!!
This is true. It is barely worth bothering with. I haven't bothered since my first post in this silly thread.

So, why are we here bothering with it again??? grin2.gif

Harte
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. yes.gif
Celestine_Lily
Okay, the pictures were nice. My new question is "What is the point?" So there is a picture of a "flower". What purpose does that serve? Why should people, or even you, care?
Nephilim_Slayer
QUOTE(go-suto @ Aug 24 2007, 08:38 PM) *
Anyone notice a similarity between the flower/cube and the depiction of heaven in Revelations??? Maybe it is just me...


It's a small universe...=)
andymonk
QUOTE(Celestine_Lily @ Sep 1 2007, 01:35 AM) *
Okay, the pictures were nice. My new question is "What is the point?" So there is a picture of a "flower". What purpose does that serve? Why should people, or even you, care?

The "flower of life" is not a flower,this is the name given to this ancient symbol. The point is....the complete ancient flower of life consciously links the whole of humanity together. Read the rest of the thread and you will see what purpose the flower serves. I,m not asking you to care,its information,take it or leave it. wink2.gif
God_Of_War
QUOTE(andymonk @ Sep 1 2007, 12:04 AM) *
Interesting. If you drew a circle around each temple,you would have the first three circles of the flower of life. Also known as the trinity which holds the triquetra. wink2.gif Click to view attachment Click to view attachment


Yes I believe it has something to do with what you are saying...And from the things I know it has also some connection with the trinity...It is said that these temples represented the unity of the people with the Gods....
andymonk
QUOTE(Harte @ Aug 31 2007, 05:54 PM) *
Yeah, since you asked, I have an opinion.

It is my opinion that you are so horribly, horribly wrong that you're coming around the bend towards right.

There are no such things as ley lines. Locations of "sacred" ancients sites do not correspond to any discernible geometric pattern, and you need to get out every once in a while, dude!
Emma,
"Smacks of" is far too kind. This stuff makes New Age mumbo jumbo look like Kant's Critique of Pure Reason!!!
This is true. It is barely worth bothering with. I haven't bothered since my first post in this silly thread.

So, why are we here bothering with it again??? grin2.gif

Harte
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. wink2.gif
RamboIII
QUOTE(Pax Unum @ Aug 27 2007, 06:34 PM) *
what religion/belief is this based on?, since the earth is billions of years old, how does God and creation fit into this? or does this 'sacred geometry' only work if you're a religious believer... just wondering


This has nothing to do with the topic, but I find your sig hilarious, where the hell does Lumie get the balls to call other people ignorant?
andymonk
I believe the sacred triple spiral symbolises the complete(three layered)ancient flower of life. original.gif Click to view attachment
andymonk
The sacred symbols of all religions can be found within the complete flower of life. I believe all religions were created by world secret societies,to hide how sacred geometry links the whole of humanity together. The objective of these secret societies is to divide and rule,the creation of religion has done just that. Their motto is"ordo ab chao"(order out of chaos),from the chaos they create,to the order they control. mad.gif Click to view attachment
1.618
QUOTE(andymonk @ Sep 6 2007, 02:43 PM) *
The sacred symbols of all religions can be found within the complete flower of life. I believe all religions were created by world secret societies,to hide how sacred geometry links the whole of humanity together. The objective of these secret societies is to divide and rule,the creation of religion has done just that. Their motto is"ordo ab chao"(order out of chaos),from the chaos they create,to the order they control. mad.gif Click to view attachment


it's quite pretty. does the golden proportion apply?
andymonk
QUOTE(1.618 @ Sep 6 2007, 02:45 PM) *
it's quite pretty. does the golden proportion apply?
I believe it does. This may be of interest..... http://www.near-death.com/geometry.html original.gif
andymonk
Is it more than a coincidence that the vortex lattice mirrors the complete flower of life? http://jilawww.colorado.edu/research/modelsystems.html Click to view attachment
counterveil
QUOTE(andymonk @ Aug 31 2007, 05:14 PM) *
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. yes.gif


I've heard assumption and faith described in the same way.

Drawing conclusions based on coincidence is as bad as gambling on 7/7/7 or believeing 6/6/6 has any significance. People like patterns, and triangles and intermeshing circles represent very basic mathematical patterns that are impossible to ignore. The first shapes that children draw are circles and triangles. Assuming our ancestors were of sufficient intelligence and reason, they'd probably want to build things in patterns too.

When I play with my kid and put together legos I tend to do so in patterns, and I'm sure most of us do. That doesn't mean there's anything sacred or mystical about it; they are just the patterns that make up our universe that we can easily recognize.
Emma_Acid
QUOTE(andymonk @ Sep 2 2007, 02:18 AM) *
Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance. wink2.gif


There's nothing to investigate.
andymonk
This may be of interest... http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Form-of...tor-55150.shtml I believe the complete ancient flower of life is the template for the pattern. Click to view attachment
Emma_Acid
all you're doing is getting various shapes that are based around circles and claiming they're all somehow mystically linked. Nothing you're posting is actually supporting any idea whatsoever.

Someone asked if its related to the golden ratio, and you claim it is, posting up a link about fractals.

Its all completely unrelated and frankly meaningless.
1.618
Someone asked if its related to the golden ratio, and you claim it is, posting up a link about fractals.

that was me. couldn't be bothered to click on the link though grin2.gif
andymonk
This may be of interest. http://www.sangraal.com/incubation.htm
AntariStarChild
Its with in the code of life and with in spiritual growth to spiritual one self that is link with in many others of life of deep meaning of core of one self to be whole in one. Although many religions were created by others that are secret societies or others who wanted to control and manipulate people to gather large masses with in their power hungry to greed that stripes the whole meaning of one. I do see what you meant andymonk its something that mankind needs to know not to forget the great meaning that was the truth its self.
Frozenthought
The Flower Of life contains all sacred geometry symbols, and that is why it is important, Sacred Geometry is the blueprint of Creation and the genesis of all form. It is an ancient science that explores and explains the energy patterns that create and unify all things and reveals the precise way that the energy of Creation organizes itself. On every scale, every natural pattern of growth or movement conforms inevitably to one or more geometric shapes.

As you enter the world of Sacred Geometry you begin to see as never before the wonderfully patterned beauty of Creation. The molecules of our DNA, the cornea of our eye, snow flakes, pine cones, flower petals, diamond crystals, the branching of trees, a nautilus shell, the star we spin around, the galaxy we spiral within, the air we breathe, and all life forms as we know them emerge out of timeless geometric codes. Viewing and contemplating these codes allow us to gaze directly at the lines on the face of deep wisdom and offers up a glimpse into the inner workings of the Universal Mind and the Universe itself.

The ancients believed that the experience of Sacred Geometry was essential to the education of the soul. They knew that these patterns and codes were symbolic of our own inner realm and the subtle structure of awareness. To them the “sacred” had particular significance involving consciousness and the profound mystery of awareness ….. the ultimate sacred wonder. Sacred Geometry takes on another whole level of significance when grounded in the experience of self-awareness.



from http://www.sacred-geometry.com/sacredgeometry.html
aztek
ok, even if it is true, how is it of any use to us? what is it good for?
Frozenthought
QUOTE(aztek @ Oct 5 2007, 06:51 PM) *
ok, even if it is true, how is it of any use to us? what is it good for?



Band like Tool incorporate sacred geometry & Fibonacci ratio's and math into their music...

In the interview Adam Jones gave for the recent Guitar World cover story, he says on page 90 of the June 2006 issue (#275), "All of the members of Tool agree on sacred geometry... To me, that is what Tool is, because everyone in my band gets that.

The cover art for Tool's recent CD 10,000 days is a psychedelic flipbook to be viewed through a stereoscopic lens — is influenced by “sacred geometry,” the belief that combinations of shapes reflect the harmony of the universe. “There’s a universal consciousness,” says Jones. “Some of us are more conscious than others.” Carey is also a big fan of transcendence. “An artist should be a shaman,” he says.


Architects use Fibonacci ratios in there building designs because humans find great beauty when looking at things that have these same geomety because it is the geomatry of Nature and the human body.
andymonk
The complete ancient flower of life is the template. original.gif http://news.softpedia.com/news/New-Form-of...tor-55150.shtml
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