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goalienan
o.k. here goes...I don't know if it's me or not, but it seems people in my town are just getting more obnoxious and rude. Being polite seems to be a thing in the past down here...This morniing I went shoppiing and when leaving the 3 stores, I held the door for the person behind me, only to have them walk right past without a word. So of course my mouth had to say "your welcome" and then I got the dirty looks...It was my fault, I should have stopped after the second door grin2.gif And don't dare ask anyone for directions...they act like you asked to borrow money..Driving is the worse..Noone acknowledges another driver trying to make a turn or get onto traffic. When I was young, manners were a must..So now that I went on and on, I was wondering if other people are experiencing this where they live or is it really just me... huh.gif
novaceleste
I never really realized how rude some people can be, until I became disabled. It is amazing how many people will not hold a door open for someone in a wheelchair. I don't want or expect people to feel sorry for me and I am not out looking for pity. It just makes me wonder what some people are thinking. They are probably the same people who, when some relatively minor happends, are the ones who EXPECT people to feel sorry for them.
SatyamShivamSundaram
yeah i think alot of ppl can be *****s, esp when you'r trying to help them out
i can't stand mean ppl...!!!...
Purplos
Absolutely. Just this AM at the library I held the door for two people without a comment or a glance of thanks. People are way too focussed on themselves.
Bill Hill

People aren't getting more rude! What a load of sh**...
Man they can kiss my ass... people more rude? no load of b******s..
Tarman Zombie
I think one of the worst things I've been seeing lately is endless procrastination in some service people--if you're the plumber, car mechanic or what have you, you really shouldn't be constantly telling the owner that "I'll do it first thing tomorrow," and then only get to it a damn month later, with no form of understanding or apology whatsoever.

The worst experience I had with this recently was with a car mechanic. After he was late by a few weeks, he started ignoring phone calls, showed up about a month late with an attitude, then took a week to fix the car...whereupon, after charging a couple hundred, it turned out he'd fixed everything except the actual problem that was making the car so impossible to run in the first place.
MoonPrincess
I hate rude people. I really do. I can't stand them. >.> I don't make a rude comment back to them. I hold back.

When I hold doors for people. They always say "Thank you" back to me. happy.gif And I say "Your welcome" to them.
Anakar
It is not that people are getting more rude, I think it that more people simply have no manners. I see it every where, even in church where there isn’t even a hint of the proper decorum among a lot of the younger people. Last Sunday two young people were sitting behind me talking in normal level voice using the F word. I finally said something. They quieted down a bit but I was told I got dirty looks all thru services. There seems to be no respect for other people. I know young people are not being taught any kind of manners anymore. But then their parents were probably not taught many manners either.

Plus I think often times there is no consequence for rudeness. As mentioned in other posts here, people do what they want regardless of the effect to others and go their merry way. Yet if they are on the receiving end of rudeness, they complain. Our life style also seems to add to the situation.

So Go out and commit random acts of kindness!
novaceleste
QUOTE(MoonPrincess @ Aug 25 2007, 12:16 PM) *
I hate rude people. I really do. I can't stand them. >.> I don't make a rude comment back to them. I hold back.

When I hold doors for people. They always say "Thank you" back to me. happy.gif And I say "Your welcome" to them.


Good for you MoonPrincess!! I keep trying to explain to my husband about karma. He ALWAYS wants to cut people off that make him mad while driving, etc... I have tried to explain to him that karma will catch up to them. He doesn't seem to understand good/bad karma. It is not up to him to "pay" someone back, I mean what gives him the right??

Opus Magnus
I love being rude to people on occasion, it shows how easily you can get to people. Letting the lack of a 'thank you' get to you throughout the entire day is hilarious to me.

For the most part manners are superficial and lies anyway, so it seems dishonorable to use them. For half the things I would say thank you or sorry for would be a complete lie. It's not how other people think of you it's how you think of yourself, and I don't want to think of myself as a liar.
SatyamShivamSundaram
i think we sould whip some manners into rude ppl
[hence the "i think"]
Uh-Oh
I was riding with my boyfriend to Best Buy last night. We were behind someone in a small SUV-looking car and we watched as this cop drove up and cut out in front of him with no turn signal, almost clipping the guy's car. The cop changed lanes again and all we could see was the guy in front of us flicking him off. laugh.gif

The cop didn't have his sirens on and really wasn't going anywhere. He stayed around us the whole time, so I can't see any reason why he should have cut that guy off. Kind of pathetic that the people who are supposed to keep us driving safely don't know how to drive themselves.

That was the most rude thing I've seen in a while, but it happens all the time on the road. It's just kinda disappointing to see cops doing it. We have a lot of rude people around here. I think I'd have a heart attack if someone actually said please or thank you. Kinda used to the rudeness.
novaceleste
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 12:39 PM) *
I love being rude to people on occasion, it shows how easily you can get to people. Letting the lack of a 'thank you' get to you throughout the entire day is hilarious to me.

For the most part manners are superficial and lies anyway, so it seems dishonorable to use them. For half the things I would say thank you or sorry for would be a complete lie. It's not how other people think of you it's how you think of yourself, and I don't want to think of myself as a liar.


WHAT?? Manners are superficial and lies?? Speak for yourself buddy. I am not one to judge, but when you are not thankful of someone opening a door for you, that sounds a little egotistical. Do you think it is their obligation to open doOrs for people??
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 01:45 PM) *
WHAT?? Manners are superficial and lies?? Speak for yourself buddy. I am not one to judge, but when you are not thankful of someone opening a door for you, that sounds a little egotistical. Do you think it is their obligation to open doOrs for people??


No, but you obviously do, and yes manners are superficial. Manners are all part of ego, there is really nothing else to them. Manners have nothing to do with karma or good deeds. They are only a trick on the mind of others, and for some a trick on themselves.
someoldlady
I think manners are a thing of the past, as is common courtesy to others. When I was a kid, you respected any adult, and were as courteous to them (or more) as you would be to your own mother. I can see where some of this is going, because of the whole don't talk to strangers thing (necessary in this day and age, IMO), but we can teach kids the difference between saying thank you to a stranger who held a door for you and following some guy into the woods to help him find a lost puppy. I also see a lot of kids being disrespectful to their own parents, and not being called on it, my own nieces and nephews mouth off to their mothers, call them names, and refuse to do what is asked of them. Their mothers are trying to be pals with the kids, and it isn't working, someone has to teach those kids how to get along in the real world, instead of being nasty to anyone who crosses their paths. They figure they can tell their mother to shut up when they don't want to hear what she has to say, and since she lets them get away with it, they assume it goes for all adults. Well, except me, they know they better watch their mouths when I am around, or I will put them in time out (and their mother doesn't stop me). Kids who have no manners or respect for others and their property grow up to be rude adults who glare at you for holding the door for them, and then they raise more rude disrespectful kids. I understand the no hitting kids deal too (although I knew if I did something bad enough my hiney would be swatted, and I am not totally mentally disabled over it), but there are ways to discipline kids without hitting them.
MoonPrincess
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 01:39 PM) *
Good for you MoonPrincess!! I keep trying to explain to my husband about karma. He ALWAYS wants to cut people off that make him mad while driving, etc... I have tried to explain to him that karma will catch up to them. He doesn't seem to understand good/bad karma. It is not up to him to "pay" someone back, I mean what gives him the right??


Thanks.

I hope he understands karma soon.

It's like my mom's quote: "Don't laugh. Because that could be you."
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(goalienan @ Aug 25 2007, 05:51 PM) *
o.k. here goes...I don't know if it's me or not, but it seems people in my town are just getting more obnoxious and rude. Being polite seems to be a thing in the past down here...This morniing I went shoppiing and when leaving the 3 stores, I held the door for the person behind me, only to have them walk right past without a word. So of course my mouth had to say "your welcome" and then I got the dirty looks...It was my fault, I should have stopped after the second door grin2.gif And don't dare ask anyone for directions...they act like you asked to borrow money..Driving is the worse..Noone acknowledges another driver trying to make a turn or get onto traffic. When I was young, manners were a must..So now that I went on and on, I was wondering if other people are experiencing this where they live or is it really just me... huh.gif

Ask to borrow money laugh.gif

When you open a door for someone it is definitely nice if they just say "thanks". What I really hate is when you open a door for someone and one person goes through, then another, then another until a whole football team has trailed through! What do they think I am, a sentry on duty???

I no longer drive a car - through choice, but I must admit when I last drove, I was no longer enjoying it at all.

QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 06:01 PM) *
I never really realized how rude some people can be, until I became disabled. It is amazing how many people will not hold a door open for someone in a wheelchair. I don't want or expect people to feel sorry for me and I am not out looking for pity. It just makes me wonder what some people are thinking. They are probably the same people who, when some relatively minor happends, are the ones who EXPECT people to feel sorry for them.

I think you have that spot on Novaceleste, they act like that because they are in their own little worlds. Maybe we should all feel sorry for them, but not for the reasons they want.
novaceleste
Yes, Lotus Flower, I do wonder why some people think they are the only ones that matter. Even when we have a bad day, we still have it way better that some people.
SnakeProphet
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 07:53 PM) *
No, but you obviously do, and yes manners are superficial. Manners are all part of ego, there is really nothing else to them. Manners have nothing to do with karma or good deeds. They are only a trick on the mind of others, and for some a trick on themselves.


Indeed.
Anukis
Yes, i can see that people are getting rude too. I think rudeness could be comming from a superiority complex. Some people think they are above all us mortal beings and they can act like whatever they want. I dont get it... where is gratitude? respect? manners? I mean all this are some of the main things that distinguish us from animals. We should embrace good manners. Makes people more valued in general. I'm currently working as a receptionist in a Hotel. Some guests i encountered are really a walking example of rudeness, some of them they hang up the telephone in my face, or else they just come for the key, no please and no thanks whatsoever, and the things which drives me crazy; when im dealing with a guest and another guest pops out and with all the arrogance they interrupt in the middle of a conversation and wants to be served in that very moment! disgust.gif what the hell...

Today's humanity ilness is Arrogance.
Opus Magnus
Anyone else notice that so far everyone complaining about rudeness here is female?
RamboIII
QUOTE(Purplos @ Aug 25 2007, 12:06 PM) *
Absolutely. Just this AM at the library I held the door for two people without a comment or a glance of thanks. People are way too focussed on themselves.


The result of globalization... everyone must focus on themselves to survive in the era of brutal darwinism.
SatyamShivamSundaram
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 01:27 PM) *
Anyone else notice that so far everyone complaining about rudeness here is female?



every1 igrone opus, he can be a **** at sometimes!
tongue.gif
Anukis
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 06:27 PM) *
Anyone else notice that so far everyone complaining about rudeness here is female?



laugh.gif i'm sure mature man can understand the importance of respect... wink2.gif
novaceleste
QUOTE(Anukis @ Aug 25 2007, 01:24 PM) *
Yes, i can see that people are getting rude too. I think rudeness could be comming from a superiority complex. Some people think they are above all us mortal beings and they can act like whatever they want. I dont get it... where is gratitude? respect? manners? I mean all this are some of the main things that distinguish us from animals. We should embrace good manners. Makes people more valued in general. I'm currently working as a receptionist in a Hotel. Some guests i encountered are really a walking example of rudeness, some of them they hang up the telephone in my face, or else they just come for the key, no please and no thanks whatsoever, and the things which drives me crazy; when im dealing with a guest and another guest pops out and with all the arrogance they interrupt in the middle of a conversation and wants to be served in that very moment! disgust.gif what the hell...

Today's humanity ilness is Arrogance.


I used to be a florist/manager. I worked in a few different areas of town. I found that in most cases, the wealthier neighborhoods had the best manners.
goalienan
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 05:53 PM) *
No, but you obviously do, and yes manners are superficial. Manners are all part of ego, there is really nothing else to them. Manners have nothing to do with karma or good deeds. They are only a trick on the mind of others, and for some a trick on themselves.


How can manners be a trick of the mind, if your taught at a young age right from wrong..Obviously the problem of manners lies within yourself.
novaceleste
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 01:27 PM) *
Anyone else notice that so far everyone complaining about rudeness here is female?


No, I try my best to not stereotype people. Something I was taught while learning my manners.
bball
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 12:39 PM) *
Good for you MoonPrincess!! I keep trying to explain to my husband about karma. He ALWAYS wants to cut people off that make him mad while driving, etc... I have tried to explain to him that karma will catch up to them. He doesn't seem to understand good/bad karma. It is not up to him to "pay" someone back, I mean what gives him the right??

I think he is just trying to create the bad karma. happy.gif
goalienan
Boy, now I'm really upset about manners...Noone commented on my dress in my avator laugh.gif rofl.gif w00t.gif whistling2.gif
Anukis
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 06:32 PM) *
I used to be a florist/manager. I worked in a few different areas of town. I found that in most cases, the wealthier neighborhoods had the best manners.


Yep true nova yes.gif , but with superior i meant like a mental issue. Not money wise superior. Some people they think they are above others -superior- hence arrogant. This of course is a sign of ignorance in acting like that.
Anukis
QUOTE(goalienan @ Aug 25 2007, 06:37 PM) *
Boy, now I'm really upset about manners...Noone commented on my dress in my avator laugh.gif rofl.gif w00t.gif whistling2.gif



w00t.gif OMG how could i miss that! i absolutely want a dress like that!! grin2.gif
bball
I think manners are important. But sometimes overly nice people come off as fake. Like they are being overly nice for themselves, not for the person they are showing good manners to. Make sense?
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 02:35 PM) *
No, I try my best to not stereotype people. Something I was taught while learning my manners.


It wasn't a stereotype, it was an observation, a true one at that. It seems like certain people think manners makes the world a better place.. It really isn't making any advancements to our situation, all it is doing is making your ego feel a little more satisfied.
Anukis
QUOTE(bball @ Aug 25 2007, 06:41 PM) *
I think manners are important. But sometimes overly nice people come off as fake. Like they are being overly nice for themselves, not for the person they are showing good manners to. Make sense?


Yep i know what u mean... some people are that way too, especially people in business, they use it as a tactic to boost up sales i guess laugh.gif
goalienan
QUOTE(Anukis @ Aug 25 2007, 06:40 PM) *
w00t.gif OMG how could i miss that! i absolutely want a dress like that!! grin2.gif



thank you Anukis...I'll draw you one laugh.gif
novaceleste
QUOTE(Anukis @ Aug 25 2007, 01:37 PM) *
Yep true nova yes.gif , but with superior i meant like a mental issue. Not money wise superior. Some people they think they are above others -superior- hence arrogant. This of course is a sign of ignorance in acting like that.


I was implying that in my experience, with money, came manners.
Michelle
What's wrong with making yourself feel good by seeing a look of pleasant surprise on a strangers face? It may have been the only act of kindness they've had bestowed on them all day.
SatyamShivamSundaram
i'm shocked he didn't get after me for that......
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(sunburst @ Aug 25 2007, 02:48 PM) *
i'm shocked he didn't get after me for that......


Insignificant sun, insignificant.
goalienan
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 05:01 PM) *
I never really realized how rude some people can be, until I became disabled. It is amazing how many people will not hold a door open for someone in a wheelchair. I don't want or expect people to feel sorry for me and I am not out looking for pity. It just makes me wonder what some people are thinking. They are probably the same people who, when some relatively minor happends, are the ones who EXPECT people to feel sorry for them.


I can definitely see where you are coming from. The sad thing is that at times, when I went to help someone who was disabled, all I got was an "I can do it myself"..no thank you for asking, nothing. It tends to make me refrain from asking anymore..Although I probably will still do it..Thats my nature.. mellow.gif
novaceleste
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 01:44 PM) *
It wasn't a stereotype, it was an observation, a true one at that. It seems like certain people think manners makes the world a better place.. It really isn't making any advancements to our situation, all it is doing is making your ego feel a little more satisfied.


When I say thank you to someone, it is to show that I appreciate what someone has done. It is not to make me feel better.
SatyamShivamSundaram
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 01:49 PM) *
Insignificant sun, insignificant.



everything means something and something is important and important is everything. [almost went into a rant there lol] anyway, see the pattern?
lol!!!!
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 02:53 PM) *
When I say thank you to someone, it is to show that I appreciate what someone has done. It is not to make me feel better.


It's to make their ego satisfied. Manners is all about ego.
novaceleste
QUOTE(goalienan @ Aug 25 2007, 01:53 PM) *
I can definitely see where you are coming from. The sad thing is that at times, when I went to help someone who was disabled, all I got was an "I can do it myself"..no thank you for asking, nothing. It tends to make me refrain from asking anymore..Although I probably will still do it..Thats my nature.. mellow.gif


I think that goes along with wanting to be independant. I felt that way soon after I became disabled. For myself, I chalk it up to losing so much at once. Especially my job, I loved my job so much, there were very few days that I didn't want to go to work, even during Valentine's.

I guess I wanted to do as much as I could myself, though, most of the time I was polite and let the person help and gave them a kind "thank you" anyways. I know they had good intentions.
Anukis
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 06:58 PM) *
It's to make their ego satisfied. Manners is all about ego.


manners are what distinguish us from animals. its satisfying because you feel appriciation and you are expressing it to the person who was polite to you, and you show respect by being polite. whats wrong in showing respect? without manners people just could have been a bunch of pigs for all that matters mellow.gif
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(Anukis @ Aug 25 2007, 03:06 PM) *
manners are what distinguish us from animals. its satisfying because you feel appriciation and you are expressing it to the person who was polite to you, and you show respect by being polite. whats wrong in showing respect? without manners people could be just a bunch of pigs for all that matters mellow.gif


I thought it was reason and a higher sense of self awareness.
goalienan
QUOTE(novaceleste @ Aug 25 2007, 06:59 PM) *
I think that goes along with wanting to be independant. I felt that way soon after I became disabled. For myself, I chalk it up to losing so much at once. Especially my job, I loved my job so much, there were very few days that I didn't want to go to work, even during Valentine's.

I guess I wanted to do as much as I could myself, though, most of the time I was polite and let the person help and gave them a kind "thank you" anyways. I know they had good intentions.


Well then Nova, your a very kind person. yes.gif
Anukis
QUOTE(Opus Magnus @ Aug 25 2007, 07:07 PM) *
I thought it was reason and a higher sense of self awareness.


In my opinion manners are a part of reasoning, self-awarness, and also... awarness of your surroundings.
Opus Magnus
QUOTE(Anukis @ Aug 25 2007, 03:13 PM) *
In my opinion manners are a part of reasoning, self-awarness, and also... awarness of your surroundings.


The ku is in the kab the kab isn't in the ku.
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(bball @ Aug 25 2007, 07:41 PM) *
I think manners are important. But sometimes overly nice people come off as fake. Like they are being overly nice for themselves, not for the person they are showing good manners to. Make sense?

What when they are gushy you mean?

Sometimes people with low self-esteem or those who are insecure will be gushy or overly nice. Ironically, it could be just these people we shouldn't be rude to, they certainly wouldn't want their confidence shot down any further.

I agree they can be bloody irritating at times though lol.
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