lovecraft disciple
Dec 30 2003, 01:11 PM
Hello,
For years ufo are spotted, abductions are reported (Roswell took place in 1947... 50 years). So I wonder, if their goal was to invade us, what are they wainting for ? I they can cross space, why would they observe us for years ? An invasion could take 1 to 10 years for them. A scout period of 50 year means nothing if we're talking strategy.... May be they're just here to learn, so we don't have anything to fear.
Dracunum3010
Dec 30 2003, 04:59 PM
yes, they are mostly here to observe our activities. Curious of why we are doing every second
Invade us? i don't think so. They are millions of other galaxy out there for them, why earth?
I think they are not stupid to waste resources into invading us
anonymous57
Dec 30 2003, 10:22 PM
What I want to know is, if there are about a thousand or so abduction reports every year, and it isn't going down, why the hell are they taking so many people, surely they've learn't all about us by now?
Novo
Dec 30 2003, 11:09 PM
I think they are spiritual teacher's and It caused them pain to see how we were conflicting with ourselve's , as a unnamed source said... when she asked why they were doing this they said "because they saw a glow"
Blood Angel
Dec 30 2003, 11:26 PM
I actually hope they do invade, i haven't kicked any ass for ages.....
Tess
Dec 30 2003, 11:32 PM
Maybe they ARE going to invade.....maybe they are visiting and in preparation of an invasion,which in "our"time has been going on for years and years,but in "their" time,it's been only days...............just a thought!
Blood Angel
Dec 30 2003, 11:58 PM
Who cares i'll still open up a can 'o' whupp ass on there scaly green buttocks
Tess
Dec 31 2003, 12:34 AM
| QUOTE (Blood Angel @ Dec 30 2003, 06:58 PM) |
| Who cares i'll still open up a can 'o' whupp ass on there scaly green buttocks |
And exactly how would you do that Blood Angel?
Blood Angel
Dec 31 2003, 01:26 AM
My arsenal of weapons, a quick hand, good eyesight, and wittyy comments afterwards.
Bangali
Dec 31 2003, 01:48 AM
I think ALIENs are not like humans....if they were human, they surely would attacked us...
Tess
Dec 31 2003, 04:11 AM
| QUOTE (Blood Angel @ Dec 30 2003, 08:26 PM) |
| My arsenal of weapons, a quick hand, good eyesight, and wittyy comments afterwards. |
LOL!I'm sure that will really scare them away!
moe eubleck
Dec 31 2003, 04:35 AM
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| I think ALIENs are not like humans |
Bravo! Brilliant deduction. Hence the name "alien". Kinda falls in with the defintion.
But have you ever turned things around? I think lots and lots of
people out there look like
aliens. Just go to your local Mall. Im sure you will encounter many specimens.
Engulf
Dec 31 2003, 04:40 AM
| QUOTE (lovecraft disciple @ Dec 30 2003, 12:11 PM) |
| So I wonder, if their goal was to invade us, what are they wainting for ? |
The invasion has already begun actually,the abduction stuff are just the first of many steps towards thier glory.And what they meant by an invasion isn't what we humans (primates compared with them) usually do,like entering a war,bringing hordes of soldiers,weapons etc & simply invade the opposition.What we're talking here is an advanced race,even far more superior than we could imagine,now do you think they'd use this primitive way??Nah I don't think so.What if they could befriend a 'side' of that race,create conflict among that particular race,then when everything's like some leftover bread,they would come in & just take us over without (much) resistance or maybe give 'help' and make us 'join' them,blinding us with thier help??That's one possibility I think personally.
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| I actually hope they do invade, i haven't kicked any ass for ages..... |
moe eubleck
Dec 31 2003, 05:09 AM
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| What we're talking here is an advanced race,even far more superior than we could imagine, |
How does conquering another species define "advanced" ?
lovecraft disciple
Dec 31 2003, 08:07 AM
I must admit, TESS, that I didn't thought of this differents timelines between us and them
Engulf
Dec 31 2003, 02:40 PM
| QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Dec 31 2003, 04:09 AM) |
| How does conquering another species define "advanced" ? |
Hello Moe

,
If you'd read up my post again,I'm afraid I've already stated it.But of course that's just how I think personally,one of the many ways if you know what I mean.And if you'd ask me about the other ways.......

,I'm not sure though....
wunarmdscissor
Dec 31 2003, 03:40 PM
Oh come on. If Aliens are out there why would they wait for ages to conquer us. why let us create more and more advanced technology I mean we've come so far in a hundred years who knows how long we'll go in the next 50.
And if they;re so advanced wot good would it do them to invade us what do we have to offer them? The only reason the U.K. expanded her empire was to gain the resources that it wanted from the poor country we crushed. So aliens that advanced could find nothing on earth that's worth the exertion.
My opinion is that i believe Aliens are there but they aint gonna contact us or invade. I think we're like their version of the trueman show an they're up there pissin themselves at us ( i mean who wouldn't we're a bunch of half wits). Were the human show (sorry had to say that i know its awful).
Think about it would you talk to us. So i believe that its up to us to find them. Just like jim carey did.
Tess
Dec 31 2003, 03:51 PM
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Dec 30 2003, 11:40 PM) |
The invasion has already begun actually,the abduction stuff are just the first of many steps towards thier glory. |
How do you know the invasion has already begun?
Engulf
Dec 31 2003, 06:14 PM
| QUOTE (Tess @ Dec 31 2003, 02:51 PM) |
How do you know the invasion has already begun? |
Hello Tess

,
Everyone thinks that the invasion will only begin when there's a war,now that's very wrong.This is just 'our' way of interpriting it,not (exactly) thiers.Okay back to the question,let's go way back into the Roswell incident.From what I think,that incident
isn't an accident,like the alien had some probs with thier craft and they just boomed on Earth,then we found & collect those wreckage,bla bla,no no.I think the aliens have already checked us out more than enough & deliberately crashed one of thier crafts on our land to 'bait' us with thier tech.
If you've already known,this wierd crafts (cigar-shaped & many more) were already sighted way back those old times (no Egyptian crap here,I meant back 100-150 yrs ago),Basel incident & many others,now I believe that's when they conduct thier research & checkin' outs towards our planet & our people.After this had taken place,meaning once they've fully done all the checking job,then they planned thier invasion.Like I've said,it would be unwise for them to just jump in & attack.I can explain why if in the first place you believe that we're not alone and are surrounded by millions of alien races out there in space.But I'll just get straight into this invasion thing.
Firstly,bait these primates with our technology,that'll explain the Roswell incident.Let them be aroused by it,following that built up thier hunger towards this tech.Then try to initiate a 'peaceful' meeting with them,befriend them.Then suggest a deal in exchange for thier tech (the 'we give you tech,you give us permission to do research on your people and planet' deal),due to stupidity and blindness of primates,they'll agree without hesitation.Then bring in more aliens,built bases.Bring more aliens in,continue implanting progress on humans.And.....from that,we'll have to see it from now.
So,those are my thoughts about the invasion.About the implanting thing,I'm very sure you understand that well enough Tess.

It's used to manipulate our minds,to rape us.To add more,the invasion didn't just 'begun',but I'm very much afraid it's half way to its goal.Hey BA,can I join you in kicking thier ass??I know that I can't really offer much but ahr,wut the heck
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| why let us create more and more advanced technology I mean we've come so far in a hundred years who knows how long we'll go in the next 50. |
Hello wunarmdscissor,you seem to think that we're a very highly advanced race,oh no you're so wrong.Maybe in our eyes,but never thiers

.Be it 50,100,150 yrs,we would still never be able to face them.It's not that I'm blasting our techs & efforts,I respect them instead but if you'd compare them,it's just too much to handle,I call it unfairness,give us that appropriate time to develop & stop thiers a little,then we'll see who's really the best.
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| So aliens that advanced could find nothing on earth that's worth the exertion. |
Oh yes,they're particularly interested in copper.Beats me why would they want it,but if I'm not mistaken it's got something to do with gravity or magnetism,something like to contain the electro-magnetic fields,whatever it is,they need lots of them for thier tech reasons.If that's so,why can't we just sit down & talk dammit...
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| Think about it would you talk to us. So i believe that its up to us to find them. Just like jim carey did. |
Jim Carrey is hollow.
Tess
Dec 31 2003, 07:41 PM
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Dec 31 2003, 01:14 PM) |
Firstly,bait these primates with our technology,that'll explain the Roswell incident.Let them be aroused by it,following that built up thier hunger towards this tech.Then try to initiate a 'peaceful' meeting with them,befriend them.Then suggest a deal in exchange for thier tech (the 'we give you tech,you give us permission to do research on your people and planet' deal),due to stupidity and blindness of primates,they'll agree without hesitation.Then bring in more aliens,built bases.Bring more aliens in,continue implanting progress on humans.And.....from that,we'll have to see it from now.
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Wow,what you said actually makes sense.I guess i assumed by "invasion",they'd show up by the thousands,all at once,round us up,kill us,whatever,rather than assuming they have a sinister,manipulative plan.............I hope you are wrong about this,but i have a feeling you're right.
Nie
Dec 31 2003, 11:46 PM
hmm....what do ants think of us?...has anyone thought of this?
will they gather around, and think what the giant people want? if they will invade, why they abduct little ants?....
Ok, dont take me too seriously...but, think on that...
I know why the aliens are waiting, infact, i know their plans... they want to...wait...what is this light...NO!!!!!
Engulf
Jan 1 2004, 03:50 AM
| QUOTE (Tess @ Dec 31 2003, 06:41 PM) |
| I hope you are wrong about this |
Me too Tess,me too......
Blood Angel
Jan 1 2004, 03:55 AM
Engulf - you have done a excellent job of explaining just how they do it, but it extends far beyond tech, its aid, money (as in trade), medical. In the end they won't need to invade, its a silent invasion, they are already here, and we let them in. What will they do with us? Who knows....
In regards to the copper, its supposedly higly valuable to them, not only for most of their tech (which is electromagnetically driven), but apparently it conducts more than just electricity....not quite sure what else it conducts still looking into that one.
Dracunum3010
Jan 1 2004, 08:56 AM
wow engulf nice theory
this is one of my friends theory about Atlantis
--> well, aliens do not have bases here... they use our own bases... kinda like working hand in hand, cause building alien bases here with their architecture are expensive and easily spotted, so they use our military buildings...
wunarmdscissor
Jan 1 2004, 02:46 PM
engulf
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| wunarmdscissor,you seem to think that we're a very highly advanced race,oh no you're so wrong |
I don't really believe we are advanced at all. All i was saying is that aliens that are able to even get here must be far more advanced than us, beyond even our perception.
If you believe that they are going to waste all that time and effort trying to brainwash us then i believ your wrong. Look at it this way in the U.S. right now they are developing and testing weapons which using radiowaves or microwaves can basically destroy in a matter of seconds all living matter within a city whilst still keeping the infrastructure of said city intact.
Now if you believe that aliens are watching, baiting and preparing us for the end. Then surely you can believe they have developed and easily far surpassed that kind of technology and surely perfected it on a global size.
Why not just use that take our copper and leave saving time effort, and risk?
They would gain victory straight away without even having to worry about rebbellion, stategic planning an so forth.
By the way where are you getting your info from?
Is there any sites i can look at cos it would be a pretty interesting read?
Neway i hope we're both wrong cos either way we're screwed lol
Mutant Snake
Jan 1 2004, 03:05 PM
I wanna kick some bum too BA. but if they want us gone all they gotta do is give us a little tech and let our government screw up and kill us all.
Gandalf900
Jan 1 2004, 08:24 PM
Firstly, I don't think of invasion...don't you think if you were an invading species you would have 'conquered' the earth when it was pristine? AND before the human race was created? And speaking of creation, by whom? Has anyone ever given thought to humans as not really belonging to this planet? Has anyone thought of the human species as a hybrid between another visiting species and an animal that is indiginous to earth? Hey, if this is the case, then you really can't call "us OR them" alien!
Anything call alien, not of this planet? Whoa, US has called people from other countries 'aliens' for a long time!
Think of the cosmos like any community here on earth, we have neighbors, they move in and out all the time, they drive their cars passed our house and we don't scream and freak out that they are aliens...hummm, think outside the box and it isn't very scary! Unless of course you have freaky neighbors!!!
-lori c
andromeda
Jan 1 2004, 11:24 PM
Engulf
Jan 2 2004, 05:55 AM
| QUOTE (Dracunum3010 @ Jan 1 2004, 07:56 AM) |
wow engulf nice theory |
Mmm,sarcasm??hmm....whatever...
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| well, aliens do not have bases here... they use our own bases... kinda like working hand in hand, cause building alien bases here with their architecture are expensive and easily spotted, so they use our military buildings... |

for Heaven's....pls now,if they ever thought that they'd invade us silently by building thier own buildings like some shopping mall or something,then I think we could just finish them off by now rather than to go through all the probs of finding a way of disposing this idiots.
Like what my mate BA said,it's a silent invasion,I hope you're very clear about the meaning of the word 'silent' is beforehand

.They would of course keep the whole thing down....underground bases,no I don't mean Area 51,we had another discussion somewhere else and someone suggested A51 is just a decoy,fact is little to nothing is happening there.I fully agree with that.It's just a 'main attraction' for curious people such as us but the real deal ain't happening there.
Maybe you should read up those MJ-12 & Dulce conspiracies,yes the underground bases were made by people here on Earth (and some ET's too but most are from here) but they
do not share with the military guys.They actually demanded this whole construction of u-bases to be built in order to make the deal,though there are humans working in thier bases too.
And the u-bases isn't just about land,they're scattered everywhere deep within our oceans too,which explains UFO's being seen rising from ocean water's by sailors.
Jedi_Bone
Jan 2 2004, 06:45 AM
i dont think they are from our universe, i think they are from another dimension, they harnassed the ability of interdimensional travel, an i doubt they have our best intentions in mind...
Engulf
Jan 2 2004, 06:50 AM
Hello again wunarmdscissor

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| Look at it this way in the U.S. right now they are developing and testing weapons which using radiowaves or microwaves can basically destroy in a matter of seconds all living matter within a city whilst still keeping the infrastructure of said city intact. |
It so happens that those aliens are working behind with the US,so basically there's not much of a difference here.
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| Then surely you can believe they have developed and easily far surpassed that kind of technology and surely perfected it on a global size. |
Erm....don't quite get it,maybe you could clarify it a lil clearer??
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Why not just use that take our copper and leave saving time effort, and risk? They would gain victory straight away without even having to worry about rebbellion, stategic planning an so forth. |
Alright,have you played the game Civilization 3??Seriously,not a joke but say if there's a opposing civ. having a resource you want & need so badly that you'd barf every sec not having it,do you think you'd wanna use that 20 turns trading thing??Moreover it,if that civ so backward in everything,why not go inside,finish them,plant your base or whatever it is & make it yours forever??

Just a thought....
Just wanna add something,how many of you people out there who actually believe there's some sort of a space federation outside there in space,who's tech & whatever it is even far more advance than the Greys,Sauroids etc themselves??If you do,think of it,this would be yet another reason for them not to just barge in our planet.You know,colonizing a weaker & punier race would be pathetic & shameful......
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| Neway i hope we're both wrong cos either way we're screwed lol |
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| Has anyone ever given thought to humans as not really belonging to this planet? |
Hello gandalf,if you've read about the Sauroids history,they say this Earth belongs to them & that they're back here to claim it from us.

I also have doubts about how did we ever got here in the first place.Hmmm.....
moe eubleck
Jan 2 2004, 07:21 AM
| QUOTE |
| Like what my mate BA said,it's a silent invasion,I hope you're very clear about the meaning of the word 'silent' is beforehand |
Engulf.
Considering the nature of silence, how is it that you came upon this discovery of a "silent invasion" .
Engulf
Jan 2 2004, 07:45 AM
| QUOTE (moe eubleck @ Jan 2 2004, 06:21 AM) |
Engulf. Considering the nature of silence, how is it that you came upon this discovery of a "silent invasion" . |
Hello Moe

,
Actually I had this idea whilst checking up all those alien things,coincidentally some individuals (scientists or ufologists) also suggested this theory is indeed real (at least to the minorities though

).
Blood Angel
Jan 2 2004, 01:00 PM
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Jan 2 2004, 06:50 AM) |
Alright,have you played the game Civilization 3??Seriously,not a joke but say if there's a opposing civ. having a resource you want & need so badly that you'd barf every sec not having it,do you think you'd wanna use that 20 turns trading thing??Moreover it,if that civ so backward in everything,why not go inside,finish them,plant your base or whatever it is & make it yours forever?? Just a thought....
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i got that game 2 months ago, and i'm still addicted to it, not better than civ 2 or 1 of course they were classics.
What engulfs referring to is a surgical strike, example: Its WW2 and germany relys on oil from north africa, and the middle east. In order to hamper and slow down the nazi war machine the allies cut off their supply oil, with surgical strikes. Hampering the progress and eventually turning the tide of the war.
Here its the same, almost. Although we are not officially at war with another species, (for arguements sake lets say aliens are proven to exist). We still do not know yet all the propertys that copper offers, I.E alternative power source conduction. Making copper not seems very valuable to us at start, but extremely valuable to any other species that does know the propertys of copper. Copper being the aliens "OIL" and needing it to survive (perhaps possibly they don't want to get swallowed up by another empire....) they will grab any sources of copper, at all costs. Regardless of moral implications, and death tolls. Of course they could trade, but why trade with a species that can't even get off its own planet without firing fossil fuels? Why waste time trading - when you can have it all.
Engulf
Jan 2 2004, 01:22 PM
Mutant Snake
Jan 2 2004, 03:34 PM
Thats the year my brother was born, and he claims to be from another world, i think he was planted to keep a watch over me LOL.

Of course he is a mean little one and i wouldnt be surprised if he was one of them, it would explain some things.
Engulf
Jan 2 2004, 03:48 PM
| QUOTE (Mutant Snake @ Jan 2 2004, 02:34 PM) |
| Of course he is a mean little one and i wouldnt be surprised if he was one of them, it would explain some things. |
Mutant Snake
Jan 2 2004, 03:58 PM
Glad you found that funny.
Novo
Jan 2 2004, 05:28 PM
| QUOTE (Jedi_Bone @ Jan 2 2004, 05:45 AM) |
| i dont think they are from our universe, i think they are from another dimension, they harnassed the ability of interdimensional travel, an i doubt they have our best intentions in mind... |
- Angel's
- Grey's
- Blonde's
- Reptillian's
- Mantises(SP)
- Giant's
- Shorter Grey's
They?? Please Elaborate
I do not believe they are all Evil... I believe that there are to diffrent side's
Gandalf900
Jan 2 2004, 07:08 PM
| QUOTE (Engulf @ Jan 2 2004, 05:50 AM) |
Zachary Sitchin has about 9 books out on the subject of human origins that I have found very interesting and most of the information fits into what I have always understood. Of course everyone must investigate for themselves and see how it fits into their understanding, but I find his work to over-all be of substantial interest and fits! -lori c
| QUOTE | | Has anyone ever given thought to humans as not really belonging to this planet? |
Hello gandalf,if you've read about the Sauroids history,they say this Earth belongs to them & that they're back here to claim it from us.  I also have doubts about how did we ever got here in the first place.Hmmm.....  |
Loque
Jan 2 2004, 08:31 PM
Well all they would have to do is arrive quietly, get jobs at all fresh water treatment plants in every country and drop a load of nasty chems in it, this wi ll kill many me beleives. and take our most important thing.
Engulf
Jan 3 2004, 03:07 AM
Mmm,lots of goodies worth checking,thank you Gandalf.
wunarmdscissor
Jan 3 2004, 03:48 PM
Engulf
sorry for not replying earlier.
Right what i meant was that if we (and im using your opinion) are so primitive and yet we have managed to create a weapon that destroys all living matter in a city whilst leaving said city's infrastuructre ie. copper, roads whatever intact then we must agree that the aliens would have the ability to use a much more advanced weapon which has the same characteristics.
They are already in (your opinion) invading us so they have no moral opinions on us (much like our opinions on livestock ie. cattle or chickens), therefore they would have no objections with wiping us out in a second.
Why go to all the hasstle of your theory when they have the technology to just take it?
BTW never heard of that game you were talking about (am rot really into comp games anymore)
Engulf
Jan 3 2004, 04:19 PM
| QUOTE (wunarmdscissor @ Jan 3 2004, 02:48 PM) |
Engulf sorry for not replying earlier. |
Hello again wunarmdscissor

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Not a prob.
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| Why go to all the hasstle of your theory when they have the technology to just take it? |
Okay firstly I would wanna ask you something,do you believe that besides this stupid Greys,there are more than a million alien races out there in space??I consider you think it's so then in order for me to proceed

,I'll quote my earlier post,you must've missed it.
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| Just wanna add something,how many of you people out there who actually believe there's some sort of a space federation outside there in space,who's tech & whatever it is even far more advance than the Greys,Sauroids etc themselves??If you do,think of it,this would be yet another reason for them not to just barge in our planet.You know,colonizing a weaker & punier race would be pathetic & shameful...... |
Think of it more to like the United Nations down here up there.You can't just go inside and eliminate any country you'd want just for the sole purpose of conquering its land/resources (I'm not starting another conspiracy here,the US-oil thing,no no,not that).I hope you get my point here.....just my personal thought.
wunarmdscissor
Jan 3 2004, 04:29 PM
Yeah i know what your saying.
But if indeed this UN type of coucil did exist then what they are doing (relating to your theory) would be detectable and would therfore be stopped. This is taking into account that the other races would be comparative on a technological level to our invaders. You can't have it both ways invading through barging in or subversive techniques is still invading.
Nah im sorry i don't believe it
But your obviously entitled to your opinion as iam to my opinions
Engulf
Jan 3 2004, 04:55 PM
| QUOTE |
| But if indeed this UN type of coucil did exist then what they are doing (relating to your theory) would be detectable and would therfore be stopped. |
This can't be help actually.Yes it would be stupid that if 'they' would just ignore this thing blindly & I'm very sure that they're among the other 'aliens' who've already made contact with the Greys,the Reptiloids/Sauroids,Draconians & the Earthlings (US Gov) beforehand.But sad to say,even the gov. don't see this,they'd rather be more interested in allowing the tech-trading deal to be going on to feed thier greed than to maintain mankind's survival,& I don't rule the Illuminatis out from this too.Anyway back to what I was saying,perhaps they've come here and the humans told the federation that everything's just fine,it could be the Greys had already poisoned the very minds of those people (or implant) probably saying that this whole tech thing is illegal out there and we should keep this down for our beneficiary,and they again blindly just adhere to it.....

,yet again just my own thoughts...
EDIT:Just wanna add to my statement above,always remember that the aliens and the gov. agreed on this 'deal happily',meaning the aliens never actually forced us in accepting it.The so-called federation can never rule this as an invasion by the Greys because the deal was worked out by both sides by mutual consent at the beginning and it still does.
Mutant Snake
Jan 3 2004, 06:25 PM
How about some of us go out and find an alien base, get a whole lot of weapons and blow the stuffings out of it.LOL
Blood Angel
Jan 3 2004, 07:01 PM
To understand a interglactic "UN Style" council one must look at ours. To be honest the UN is almost useless (almost not completely), the UN couldn't stop us going to war with iraq, it could not stop us invading afghanistan, it didn't stop russia attacking chechneya, and it isn't going to stop china from invading Taiwan. The purpose of the UN is to work out our differences peacfully and without bloodshed, it may have been good in the cold war when their was only TWO major players russia and america, but now its useless everyone is too busy trying not to tred on each others toes. It could very well be the same with the intergalactic "UN". And of course as engulf said what seems to be peaceful co-operation on the outside could also be a hidden hostile agenda on the inside.
Pleiadian
Jan 4 2004, 08:55 PM
I don't know how many poepl know this aliens or "greys" r a created species made by the reptillian race from Nibiru the "Annuaki" i don't know how many pf you know about Nibiru if u wish to know the entire story email and ask me at thekeytothepromisedland@hotmail.com the abductions that happen are not only by scary people they r also by the Pleidians the race that made us in thier image.
Mutant Snake
Jan 4 2004, 09:17 PM
R U one of them, or do u just like them a lot.
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