Hello everyone, I am new here and was in the chat room last night, and Rassy asked me to post a few pictures I was talking about from my trip to Ireland. Here are two of them, taken looking into a cemetary at Malahide Castle in Dublin. The first picture is pretty obvious, the second has three transparent figurines towards the middle area. Let me know what you think. I have captured all sorts of things by taking pictures.

I am normally pretty good at figuring out things and what they are if I can see them, the first picture if you are talking about the shadowy figure, i am 95% sure it is the shadow of something to the right of it but being cast in that manner in a sense reflecting to create that illusion. But I believe you are talking about the lights that seem to slightly resemble a fog. With a lens of a camera with how the light is, that COULD create that but to be honest it may be some sort of "spirit" if it is not an optical illusion and it is a spirit...it seems to me to be some sort of protective angel. But I get a feeling of great pain and suffering from it, the second picture I don't feel too much except those 3 figures I think are just "stumps" of some sort reflecting back from the water. Now is that water there, or is there not? You were there so you would best know. But I think these are beautiful pictures though.

The first pic looks like maybe spider webs. The second looks like maybe something hanging from the tree? Can't see any human figures.

There was no spider webs. I didnt mean to say they seem like human figures..but there are three transparent ovals of light..nothing was hanging from the trees either.

It seems almost smokey to me, and I can see a face almost..eyes and a wide open mouth. There was nothing to either side. I took the picture leaning over a stone gate type thing. There wasnt any fog that day. What you said about pain and suffering could be right on, after all it was a cemetary on the grounds of a medevil castle. The second picture..there was no water..and no stumps. It was a section of the same graveyard as the first picture, just taken on the other side of it. You can see through the three oval whatever they are's lol and there is just bushes behind them. Thank you for your input!

I am normally pretty good at figuring out things and what they are if I can see them, the first picture if you are talking about the shadowy figure, i am 95% sure it is the shadow of something to the right of it but being cast in that manner in a sense reflecting to create that illusion. But I believe you are talking about the lights that seem to slightly resemble a fog. With a lens of a camera with how the light is, that COULD create that but to be honest it may be some sort of "spirit" if it is not an optical illusion and it is a spirit...it seems to me to be some sort of protective angel. But I get a feeling of great pain and suffering from it, the second picture I don't feel too much except those 3 figures I think are just "stumps" of some sort reflecting back from the water. Now is that water there, or is there not? You were there so you would best know. But I think these are beautiful pictures though.

SkepticalEd: "Assuming the photos were taken with a digital camera here is what you "caught": In the first picture you aimed the camera up to the light which immediately tells you that the glare created havoc with the optics plus you might have moved the camera after taking the picture which also may affect the final image. This has been shown to be so with a digital camcorder and there is no reason why it couldn't happen with a still camera. They're both operating with electronics as opposed to a film camera which is mechanical. Your second picture shows what looks like a decorative low wall with oval openings through which shruberry was projecting. Since you provided extremely large photos I used my page magnifier and got close to that area. The images do not contain any "spirit" or any sort of "protective angel."

I guess thats why your name is Skeptical...lol They were taken with a digital camera...and i dont know what light i was pointing it up at..it was an overcast sky..and i was not pointing the camera up. I remember it like it was yesterday...but thats fine, if thats what you think. As for the second one, I even thought myself it looks like a wall too with openings, but there was no such wall going thru that cemetary..we walked thru it.

I shrank the first and lightened it. See the 'monk' I was talking about. All I did was lightened the image.

Hi

I've added my pics in reply to chat, but I haven't made any comments on this thread yet because it is sooo late. That is my excuse and I'm sticking to it LOL

and the last pic...

thanks for taking the time to do that. the monk you are referring to, to me, seems like a tombstone, but it does have that shape of a monk or someone in a cloak. The two big rocks on each side you pointed out were really tall..above my head..so that couldnt the wall...i was taking the pic through a space in the wall surrounding the outside of the cemetary. and i swear to you, i was standing right there...there is no wall running thru the cemetary I see a face in the smokey mist you thought might be ecto..big eyes and wide open mouth. The last pic is taking pretty much on the opposite side of the one with the three light figures...and as you can see no wall runs through there although i totally agree it looks like it is one in the original pic.

thanks for your input on them!!

Good job. Is that a Monk or a statue?

Being the last that could give an answer, I think it's the silluette of a tombstone:

Tombstones

You can check a few simmilar here.

Fhtagn.

At least this is what I see.. a crumbled wall. I know you say there was no wall there,
but you might want to make sure. Call the service that keeps the grounds
or ask one of the other people with you about it, see if they remember. If you look
off to the sides it keeps going, I don't think its anything supernatural.. the first pic I just dun know though...

Can someone re size the pics so they don't distort the thread?

Yeah the Monk is probably just another headstone. And the other bits are weird ... I dunno what to think of them. I suppose it could be part of a wall.



Gene

Thanks, it seemed to be too solid to be a "monk"..JN

The so-called monk is obviously some sort of stone monument, pedestal or even stylized headstone, and you can see another having fallen, lying on the ground at its base, to the left. As for the others, I'll try to get hold of a photographer I know to see what he thinks. Great pictures either way. =)

My mistake about saying that the camera was pointed up. What created your smoke or fog or whatever it might be called, was the flash reflecting off the plants on the left as you can see that they are overlit and possibly aided by the sky brightness. As to the 2nd photo, if it was sharper a definite answer could be forthcoming. I answered based on the image and how I deciphered it. It does look like a stone wall with oval openings and shruberry sticking through it. You answer cancels my opinion but why would spirits if they exist and can be captured by a camera shape themselves into blurred images? Next time, turn your flash off and see if anything appears in the photos. Let those of the light provide their own!

i totally see what you are seeing..but no, there was no wall there. my husband was with me, and we have talked about this picture many times. i know thats what you see, and i can see where you are seeing that, but there was no wall!! just to prove it i sent an email to the staff at the castle asking if there was any wall that goes thru the cemetary... i understand a wall would explain the bottoms of the figures..making that scalloped shape, but what about the top and sides?

I don't know KR. There's quite a bit of transparency there. Let me see if I can enhance it in any way. ahhhhhh I'll do it tomorrow...me sleepy

Hi Momof3boys. Welcome to the forum! I think that KyrusRose and the other posters who thought this was a wall are correct. With so much amazing history to look at, you might not have noticed the wall, but it is there. Here's another photo that's just about identical to yours, but is shifted just a little bit to the left. It's copyrighted, so I can't post it here, but take a look at this link (Flickr - Malahide Cemetery). You can see the large gray headstone that's at the center of your photo along with another large headstone at far left that's white on top and dark at the bottom. You can also see the ruined wall at the far right side of the image, just like in your photo.

Now, here's a link to another photo taken from just behind the trees you see at the back of your photo (Flickr - Wall Photo). You can tell from the alignment of the two large headstones that this shot was taken from just about the same spot where you see the three shapes in your original photo. It seems pretty clear to me that the shapes in your photo are just part of the wall.

As for your other picture, I'm not sure what the hazy fog is, but it looks to me like it might be cigarette smoke lit up by the flash. Do you remember if anyone around you might have been smoking? You're right about the "monk," and so is everyone else who thought it looked like a tombstone. Here's another shot, almost identical to yours, but taken in brighter light (Flickr - Tombstone and Church).

I don't do the chat thing, so I hope I'm not repeating stuff you guys have already figured out.

Regards,

Pericynthion

And regarding the rest of the links - thanks, nice work there! Looks too close to be coincidence. Good stuff!

Ok I have just had a confab with a professional photographer about the original poster's two original digital pictures.

PICTURE #1: Lens Flare
He says the first picture is 100% lens flare from the sunlight and that you can even see the entry point, at the very top right of the picture, where the "anomoly" is the brightest. Camera lenses, like anything else, have flaws, even if they're microscopic. Occasionally, when angled just right, sunlight (or even bright enough man-made light) will refract through the impurities and imperfections in the lens material itself. The roundish streaming mass in this picture is a result of not only one set of imperfections in, for example, the external part of the lens, but in various imperfect layers of the material all through the entire lens - bubbles, fissures, etc. As they overlay one another, blurring and distortion occur, both from the flaws themselves and from the dynamics of the operation of the camera and the lens curvature.

PICTURE #2: Misidentification (?)
The photographer asserts that the three fairly uniform shapes in the second picture look to be some sort of structures, perhaps tombstones, reflecting off the surface of a small dark pool, making them appear to be ovals. His guess is that the barely visible horizontal lightened area that passes between/behind the three figures is the edge of the pool/pond itself. Barring that, he says he would have to see more shots of the area to be able to say more.

As for another (digital) picture that was also shown, of "blurred" children that appeared to be a double-exposure, my associate photographic expert confirms that double-exposure should be impossible with digital cameras (unless they have that specific function built into them, which a couple do) and that the only other way he has so far seen, produce the effect in the picture in question (not shown in this thread), is by computer graphic editing.

Well, I'm not a professional photographer, just an advanced amateur and I'm not going to pat myself on the back (oh, what the hell, pat yourself, you deserve it!). And if you read my reply on the first page you'll see that I was right about the first photo being the result of glare and in the 2nd photo I was the first to declare a wall which was proven with other photos taken from the other side of the wall.

wow it look like the grand reaper . looks like a hooded skull...does anyone else see it?