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Bella-Angelique
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Greater China
Aug 7, 2007

Ten thousand Chinese become Christians each day, according to a stunning report by the National Catholic Reporter's veteran correspondent John Allen, and 200 million Chinese may comprise the world's largest concentration of Christians by mid-century, and the largest missionary force in history.
If you read a single news article about China this year, make sure it is this one.

China may be for the 21st century what Europe was during the 8th-11th centuries, and America has been during the past 200 years: the natural ground for mass evangelization. If this occurs, the world will change beyond our capacity to recognize it. Islam might defeat the western Europeans, simply by replacing their diminishing numbers with immigrants, but it will crumble beneath the challenge from the East.

China, devoured by hunger so many times in its history, now feels a spiritual hunger beneath the neon exterior of its suddenly great cities. Four hundred million Chinese on the prosperous coast have moved from poverty to affluence in a single generation, and 10 million to 15 million new migrants come from the countryside each year, the greatest movement of people in history.

Last month's murder of reverend Bae Hyung-kyu, the leader of the missionaries still held hostage by Taliban kidnappers in Afghanistan, drew world attention to the work of South Korean Christians, who make up nearly 30% of that nation's population and send more evangelists to the world than any country except the United States. This is only a first tremor of the earthquake to come, as Chinese Christians turn their attention outward. Years ago I speculated that if Mecca ever is razed, it will be by an African army marching north; now the greatest danger to Islam is the prospect of a Chinese army marching west.

90% are Protestant, mostly Pentecostals. This uniquely American denomination, which claims the inspiration to speak in tongues like Jesus' own disciples and to prophesy, is the world's fastest-growing religious movement. I Protestantism has found its natural element in an atmosphere of official suppression. Barred from churches, Chinese began worshipping in homes, and five major "house church" movements and countless smaller ones now minister to as many as 100 million Christians. [2] This quasi-underground movement may now exceed in adherents the 75 million members of the Chinese Communist Party; in a generation it will be the most powerful force in the country.

The most audacious even dream of carrying the gospel beyond the borders of China, along the old Silk Road into the Muslim world, in a campaign known as "Back to Jerusalem". As [Time correspondent David] Aikman explains in Jesus in Beijing, some Chinese evangelicals and Pentecostals believe that the basic movement of the gospel for the last 2,000 years has been westward: from Jerusalem to Antioch, from Antioch to Europe, from Europe to America, and from America to China. Now, they believe, it's their turn to complete the loop by carrying the gospel to Muslim lands, eventually arriving in Jerusalem. Once that happens, they believe, the gospel will have been preached to the entire world.

Where traditional society remains entrenched in China's most backward regions, Islam also is expanding. At the edge of the Gobi Desert and on China's western border with Central Asia, Islam claims perhaps 30 million adherents. But Islam in China remains the religion of the economic losers, whose geographic remoteness isolates them from the economic transformation on the coasts. Christianity, by contrast, has burgeoned among the new middle class in China's cities, where the greatest wealth and productivity are concentrated. Islam has a thousand-year presence in China and has grown by natural increase rather than conversion; evangelical Protestantism had almost no adherents in China a generation ago.

China's Protestants evangelized at the risk of liberty and sometimes life, and possess a sort of fervor not seen in Christian ranks for centuries.

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Bella-Angelique
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I also think if its true what that man said that we are all a part of the body of God, then the lawlessness we see now in society represents a sort of cancer in the body of God. And just as some people treat cancer by means of chemotherapy or surgery, the human cancer we have created in society will also be annihilated from the body of God.

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Really starting to look like you are right. - Bella

Llucid
Many people mistakenly believe that Christianity is a religion for people who don't think, don't ask questions, people who hold these beliefs simply because they are popular or because their ancestors held them. Our brothers and sisters in China, as well as other areas of persecution and underground churches, prove this notion wrong. They risk life and limb to proclaim the Gospel and the name of Jesus. Praise God for them.


Bella-Angelique
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. - The Bible - Revelations

The banner of mankind's just war is the banner of mankind's salvation. The banner of China's just war is the banner of China's salvation. A war waged by the great majority of mankind and of the Chinese people is beyond doubt a just war, a most lofty and glorious undertaking for the salvation of mankind and China, and a bridge to a new era in world history. -- Mao Tse-tung
Llucid
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Sep 1 2007, 02:17 AM) *
The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East. - The Bible - Revelations

The banner of mankind's just war is the banner of mankind's salvation. The banner of China's just war is the banner of China's salvation. A war waged by the great majority of mankind and of the Chinese people is beyond doubt a just war, a most lofty and glorious undertaking for the salvation of mankind and China, and a bridge to a new era in world history. -- Mao Tse-tung


not sure what that verse from Revelation has to do with Chinese Christians. The kings from the East cross the dried Euphrates to rally with the armies of the Antichrist, to square off against the Lord of Hosts in Armageddon.

Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(Llucid @ Sep 1 2007, 02:30 AM) *
not sure what that verse from Revelation has to do with Chinese Christians. The kings from the East cross the dried Euphrates to rally with the armies of the Antichrist, to square off against the Lord of Hosts in Armageddon.


I know that has been a popular interpretation for many, but the actual description is an angel clears the way for the kings of the east and right after that that devils went to assemble all the kings of earth, which looks more like a response for interception.

There is a reason the kings of the east are pointed out as separate from the kings of earth, or else it would have just read that the angel had prepared the way for all the kings of earth.

To the ancient Christians of the time of this prediction, Lucifer was called the prince of the earth, so the kings of the earth probably meant followers of the Anti-Christ, the beast that once was, then ceased to exist, but then raises up out of the past into the present for one last attempted world take over.

I also know there are some who think that God's armies mean all angels, some angels and men, and some just men.
libra II
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Sep 1 2007, 08:14 PM) *
I know that has been a popular interpretation for many, but the actual description is an angel clears the way for the kings of the east and right after that that devils went to assemble all the kings of earth, which looks more like a response for interception.

There is a reason the kings of the east are pointed out as separate from the kings of earth, or else it would have just read that the angel had prepared the way for all the kings of earth.

To the ancient Christians of the time of this prediction, Lucifer was called the prince of the earth, so the kings of the earth probably meant followers of the Anti-Christ, the beast that once was, then ceased to exist, but then raises up out of the past into the present for one last attempted world take over.

I also know there are some who think that God's armies mean all angels, some angels and men, and some just men.



That's the negative version of the story of three wise men, Bella-Angelique.
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 1 2007, 02:36 PM) *
That's the negative version of the story of three wise men, Bella-Angelique.


What do you mean? I was posting on the psychic vision of John in the book of Revelations.
libra II
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Sep 1 2007, 08:40 PM) *
What do you mean? I was posting on the psychic vision of John in the book of Revelations.



I know.
Bella-Angelique
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 1 2007, 02:43 PM) *
I know.


Oh, I think I gotcha now. You mean the three devils are like the Anti-Three Wisemen.
libra II
QUOTE(Bella-Angelique @ Sep 1 2007, 08:46 PM) *
Oh, I think I gotcha now. You mean the three devils are like the Anti-Three Wisemen.



You've got it.

Take care, Bella-Angelique
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