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rebel yell
while watching the movie killerkiller, i noticed orbs floating everywhere in this scene. it's a little over 31 minutes into the film. they could be natural or supernatural in origin. decide for yourself.
(from fangoria interview)
Warley Hospital, the location chosen to stand in for the prison, possessed both a suitably creepy atmosphere and background; until the 1920s, it was known as Warley Asylum. "If you go back 100 years, there's a lot of fairly unpleasant history attached to it," Higgins says. "It wasn't always the nicest place on earth!" The facility has stood empty and unused for 10 years, and was in just the state of disrepair needed to conjure up the filmmaker's idea of a "sick building." And it wasn't just spooky visually, as he reveals. "We got entire takes where you'd hear footsteps and think it was one of the runners gone to the toilet or someone in the next wing, the place was so empty and echoey and quiet. So I'd call cut on sound, and we'd wait and wait while the footsteps would get closer and closer—then suddenly they'd just stop. We tried not to think about that too much!'"
There were also more tangible and unsettling reminders of the former occupants, such as the phrase "I am not alone" scratched into a wall. "You see those words in the movie, but we didn't do that; they were already there," Higgins says. The production's still photographer became fascinated with the architecture of the place and often wandered off to explore, and Higgins recalls that on the last day of shooting, she drew his attention to a bizarre detail in one of the walls of the hospital's old chapel: "There were between 1 and 200 individual butterfly wings that had been torn off and inserted into the gaps between the bricks." Despite this eerie atmosphere, the intrepid filmmakers refused to be spooked, although Higgins confides, "We spent most of the last day filming in that dark, broken-down chapel, and something just got to me and I thought, 'I am going to be very pleased once we've finished filming here!' " (more)

here's the scene. i posted it on youtube. to really see the orbs well, you need to view it full size. the quality isn't as good as in the original copy of the film, but the orbs can still be seen throughout the entire clip. some things appear to just be dust, but some look and move like other orbs i've seen people capture on film. they could be bugs, but if i were trying to act and that many were around me, it would be distracting; to say the least.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMylWPA5Hgk
dancin'hamster
Orbs are not proof of spirits.
Orbs are just blobs of dust, pollen, or insects that have reflected light back to the camera.

The guy that 'invented' the term 'ORB' has actually done a U-Turn and declared them as simple bits of dust in the air.......so sorry but they must have kicked up lots of the stuff while filming.
Veliska
I don't like orb pics that much.....I like videos of orbs moving around. It is always hard to tell if the pic has an orb....or if it is just dust....
GeneBrowne
QUOTE(dancin'hamster @ Sep 2 2007, 04:36 AM) *
Orbs are not proof of spirits.
Orbs are just blobs of dust, pollen, or insects that have reflected light back to the camera.

The guy that 'invented' the term 'ORB' has actually done a U-Turn and declared them as simple bits of dust in the air.......so sorry but they must have kicked up lots of the stuff while filming.



Orbs are also balls of energy flying around us sometimes caught by the naked eye and other times not. They are indeed not proof of spirits, but where there's an orb, there is energy... so thats the reason people associate ghosts and orbs with one another.



Gene
Alienated Being
QUOTE(dancin'hamster @ Sep 2 2007, 04:06 AM) *
Orbs are not proof of spirits.
Orbs are just blobs of dust, pollen, or insects that have reflected light back to the camera.

The guy that 'invented' the term 'ORB' has actually done a U-Turn and declared them as simple bits of dust in the air.......so sorry but they must have kicked up lots of the stuff while filming.

I'm guessing a small orb moving at high speed, stopping in one position, and taking a turn suddenly would be considered a bug, pollen, or dust? huh.gif
GeneBrowne
QUOTE(Alienated Being @ Sep 2 2007, 09:58 AM) *
I'm guessing a small orb moving at high speed, stopping in one position, and taking a turn suddenly would be considered a bug, pollen, or dust? huh.gif



Nope ... Then you have a spiritual phenomen. They are rare but why they happen, they're really cool. People don't understand that every little thing is not an "orb", but when you get one doing a whole bunch of crazy things, it's awesome ... I love it.


Cheers,

Gene
Northawke_rs
It looks like dust to me in this case. There's quite a bit of light coming in through those high windows and they've been filming in there, kicking up a lot of dust. I have almost the same effect when sitting on my couch with the sun hitting the windows right after having dusted.
belial
Maybe the saying, 'ashes to ashes dust to dust' mean something afterall?
Alex01
QUOTE(GeneBrowne @ Sep 2 2007, 02:38 PM) *
Nope ... Then you have a spiritual phenomen. They are rare but why they happen, they're really cool. People don't understand that every little thing is not an "orb", but when you get one doing a whole bunch of crazy things, it's awesome ... I love it.
Cheers,

Gene



Yep I agree, most orb videos are just dust, pollen, water, dirt, but there are some really good ones but which are rare.
JustNormal
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Sep 2 2007, 03:53 PM) *
Yep I agree, most orb videos are just dust, pollen, water, dirt, but there are some really good ones but which are rare.



I agree, and sometimes it's the way they move. Dust usually moves from the bottom up, if its an inside shot and there will be lots of them. Pollen can came from anywhere, on outside shots and dirt is just everywhere. However a good shot of an orb in motion "can" be a ball of psychic or spiritual energy such as those we see at cemetaries and other places that people are no longer living, but its very hard to decipher. One example is on my avatar, now that is a ball of spiritual/psychic energy and didnt move. JN
Episteme
QUOTE(belial @ Sep 2 2007, 09:20 AM) *
Maybe the saying, 'ashes to ashes dust to dust' mean something afterall?

LOL! Well said. grin2.gif

I don't see it as proof of anything, not that the OP is claiming it is, but the location does make it interesting. It would be interesting if an investigation was done there to determine if it's dust or something else. Thanks for posting, rare to see something like this from a movie.
rebel yell
if you can get a copy of the movie, the film is much clearer. there are some spots where it does appear to be just dust, but in others the spots are moving around erratically and seem to be flying about like in other orb videos i've seen. most of them are quite small, but they are there. i'm not saying that they are or aren't ghosts or energy. later in the film, there is a scene where it is apparent that dust is floating in the air and the light is picking it up. this scene was different. and i thought it was interesting, so i posted it.
coldethyl
^ Good job!

I love Fangoria magazine.

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enigmo
Theese ''Orbs'' are energy annomalies, comming from deep underground [Gaia's exhaust point]...
JustNormal
QUOTE(rebel yell @ Sep 2 2007, 10:07 PM) *
if you can get a copy of the movie, the film is much clearer. there are some spots where it does appear to be just dust, but in others the spots are moving around erratically and seem to be flying about like in other orb videos i've seen. most of them are quite small, but they are there. i'm not saying that they are or aren't ghosts or energy. later in the film, there is a scene where it is apparent that dust is floating in the air and the light is picking it up. this scene was different. and i thought it was interesting, so i posted it.


I thought it was great, thanks..JN
MasterPo
An orb will never convince me.

Even if not dust, moisture, bugs etc. there are other natural phenomena that can cause glowing spheres other than paranormal activity.
JustNormal
QUOTE(MasterPo @ Sep 4 2007, 02:21 AM) *
An orb will never convince me.

Even if not dust, moisture, bugs etc. there are other natural phenomena that can cause glowing spheres other than paranormal activity.



Ok Answer me a question MP? Lets say someone can see orbs with the naked eye. I dont know of anyone who can see dust or pollen etc flying around erratically inside a home. So that person looks thru the view finder of a Digital Camera and sees one, and captures it. Would you believe that, if you believe the person? JN- unsure.gif
prokofiev
it looks alot like dust to me due to shape size and how it moves i wouldnt be surprised due to how old the place is all the dust n crud flying round with the movement n such. I would have enjoyed to hear the footsteps n seen the butterfly wings tho,
thats my 2 cents
eqgumby
I have heard an assortment of explanations of orbs, and the fact of the matter is, orbs can be photographed on demand, using water vapor and a flash from a camera. They are just NOT convincing in any manner. I actually have some pics myself, and I'll likely post them in a separate thread in the next day or two.
The Sandman
my grandmother recalls seeing some real big orbs rise out of the plantain crop in the backyard of her house. the local lore was that these are supernatural beings moving about. (ghandharvas or yakshas...it seems! yakshas are supposed to be to be the musicians of the court of lord indra of the devas..not to be confused with yakshis who are female blood drinking ghosts!)

later i read in some books that the gas methane when produced by decay, when trying to escape into the atmosphese is caught in the filmy stuff in the decayed matter and rises to the air...as globes white in colour (due to opaque nature of the organic film)

i also read that these globes are normal occurances in graveyards...in india where hindus bury their dead. (only some hindus cremate them, other bury them)
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