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WEREGIRL666
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ May 16 2008, 05:11 AM) *
The statement is consistent with the evidence. It doesn't matter if the Christians were more or less peaceful, it matters that one of the two amalgamated 'gods' of this religon (Yahweh), happens to be a dragon, and generally speaking, dragons do not have a good reputation in what little we have left of pagan german beliefs, and they were clearly more primitive than the classical world that embraced the 'dragon god'. I am of German ancestry too, but I am also aware of how primitive the ancient German were until they had enough civilized slaves to make a difference. The theory makes a lot of sense. Not to people who do not believed in an intelligent creator, but if you don't, you should not be disrupting this thread in the first place.
im satanic and reading and replying you cant be bi-est its a worse argument then the one on why you dont have proof and like to mis inturprate thing
WEREGIRL666
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ May 16 2008, 06:33 AM) *
I am saying that an acknowledgement of a creator entity is the premise of the whole dragon theory, so if people are unwilling to accept that premise, why attack it further? The only explanation that I can surmise is that something about 'dragons' really bothers them.

Obviously, if we were talking about pixies or unicorns, there would not be all of this 'drama'. I guess Carl Sagan may be right, humans really do have dragons 'hotwired' in their brains'. But is it because our brains still remember dinosaurs, or Jones composite dragons made up of snakes, crocs, eagles and felines still terrify us, or maybe we should judge 5000 years of eyewitness accounts at fact value, and conclude they really saw, and therefore feared the dragons.

if unicorns would be brought in i would be the same because they are not will not and have not existsed though i could make the same argument as you do about dragons...i could say a unicorn is a saint
draconic chronicler
QUOTE (Saru @ May 16 2008, 06:43 AM) *
Because if the premise is fundamentally flawed, why shouldn't people attack it ?


If a "creator" indeed brought about the dragons then the premise is not flawed at all. In fact, many people are amazed how much sense it makes and how well everthing 'fits'.
tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ May 16 2008, 01:22 PM) *
If a "creator" indeed brought about the dragons then the premise is not flawed at all. In fact, many people are amazed how much sense it makes and how well everthing 'fits'.


I thnk the point is more that you are basing the theory on something that can not be proven. It means your entire theory cannot move out of the boundires of theology. You cannot state as fact a theory based on a supernatural entity.
Undeadskeptic
Prehaps trying to gather evidence of the existence of dragons to concrete the theory that they were real animals would be wiser than to expand into this fantastic, science fiction idea of creators and aliens etc.

Saru and Tipsy are very right.
WEREGIRL666
i still thinks its amazing how DC can take everything and switch it up to prove his point and is still immature for the inhumane comment
how r u US?
Saru
QUOTE (Draconic Chronicler)
If a "creator" indeed brought about the dragons then the premise is not flawed at all.

Your reliance on the existence of a theological 'creator' entity makes the premise flawed, you are basing it all on a fundamental assumption that cannot be proven or supported in any way whatsoever save through blind faith.
Undeadskeptic
Very good WGT6 (WereGirlTriple6, geddit? laugh.gif), and your point is a sharp honest one too, even though DC makes that obvious through his own posts.
WEREGIRL666
QUOTE (Saru @ May 16 2008, 07:50 AM) *
The fact that your entire theory rests on the existence of a theological entity makes it flawed, you are basing it all on a fundamental assumption that cannot be proven or supported in any way whatsoever save through blind faith.

wow thank you. finally someone can tell him someone he may listen to...but its DC i really want to see what happends
WEREGIRL666
thanks US lol
Undeadskeptic
Lol, you won't believe how long it took for me to figure WGT6 out laugh.gif
lil gremlin
QUOTE (draconic chronicler @ May 16 2008, 01:22 PM) *
If a "creator" indeed brought about the dragons then the premise is not flawed at all. In fact, many people are amazed how much sense it makes and how well everthing 'fits'.


Yeas we can see that here.
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If a leprechaun indeed leaves his pot at the end of a rainbow, then the premise "if we accept that Irish folklore is true, then leprechauns exist...." is not flawed at all.
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tipsy_munchkin
QUOTE (lil gremlin @ May 16 2008, 02:00 PM) *
Yeas we can see that here.
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If a leprechaun indeed leaves his pot at the end of a rainbow, then the premise "if we accept that Irish folklore is true, then leprechauns exist...." is not flawed at all.
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It goes a littel further than that though. It is more like saying if we accept the premise they exist therefore they are real and we can attribute all stories of small people in history and modern times to them. Clearly they are intelligent and this explains the rarity of modern sightings. There could easily be a case made for some of the universal themes about them throughout history which further proves theya re real. Though some mythology about them differs it really depends on how they were percieved by the people that encountered them. though of course some people decided it was wrong to beileve int hem and so some texts have been altered and new myths added thus explaining stories that do not fit with the universal theme we have decided upon.
lil gremlin
QUOTE (tipsy_munchkin @ May 16 2008, 02:18 PM) *
It goes a littel further than that though. It is more like saying if we accept the premise they exist therefore they are real and we can attribute all stories of small people in history and modern times to them. Clearly they are intelligent and this explains the rarity of modern sightings. There could easily be a case made for some of the universal themes about them throughout history which further proves theya re real. Though some mythology about them differs it really depends on how they were percieved by the people that encountered them. though of course some people decided it was wrong to beileve int hem and so some texts have been altered and new myths added thus explaining stories that do not fit with the universal theme we have decided upon.

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clearly only intelligent people can appreciate this. It makes perfect sense, all the pieces seem to 'fit' perfectly.
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Anyone who disagrees is clearly just an ignorant heckler who knows nothing about the subject...and guess what hecklers....You Loooose.
I Win.
WEREGIRL666
QUOTE (lil gremlin @ May 16 2008, 08:29 AM) *
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clearly only intelligent people can appreciate this. It makes perfect sense, all the pieces seem to 'fit' perfectly.
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Anyone who disagrees is clearly just an ignorant heckler who knows nothing about the subject...and guess what hecklers....You Loooose.
I Win.
am i the heckler? sad.gif
Undeadskeptic
Oh Weregirl, you heckler laugh.gif rofl.gif
WEREGIRL666
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lil gremlin
QUOTE (WEREGIRL666 @ May 16 2008, 02:35 PM) *
am i the heckler? sad.gif


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No WGT6 you are not a heckler, and neither do i think that your ancestors were incapable of being humane.

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That depends on whether you agree with the billions of people worldwide that acknowledge the existence of leprechauns or not. Are there leprechauns in your tribal history? Have you ever seen a rainbow? Rainbows are undeniably an universal phenomenon, which is further proof of the existence of leprechauns.

etc.

WEREGIRL666
good point
Saru
We're losing the plot again a bit here, I was going to say 'back on topic please' but i'm not sure what purpose that would serve as this topic has been discussed to death already over and over multiple times.

Its come to the point where this thread just isn't producing anything positive or constructive, it has turned in to a thread about one person's theories instead of a general thread about the subject as a whole and all it is doing is generating a lot of frustration and aggrevation for all concerned.

Draconic Chronicler it might be beneficial if you started a personal blog about this rather than discussing it on the forum in future, that way you can remove any comments from members you don't wish to hear from.

As it stands, this thread has well and truly had its day.

Closed.
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