I reckon i have a theroy that can disprove time travel into the past that i believe to be pretty possible.

For time travel into the past the future would have to be playing out now right. So say you made a pact, which you honestly meant to keep with youself to pass on on message to your children(if not planning to have children then make pact with someone else children) ,that they shall keep on tell thier children an so on, to as soon as time travel was possible to go back and see you at a younger age then you are now and tell you time travel was possible.Now as they are going back to you at a younger age, you should have that memmory now. Since i or know else does, doesn't this disprove time travel backwards into the past.

I know this has a few problems such as, the avalability of time travel, the havoc you could change by seeing someone in the past and the possible laws they may put in the furture, the is probarly more but can't think off them at momment. But i you can get past these three, the avalability of time travel should become more avalable the further into the furture it goes like all technology, the havoc you could cause, should be noexist because i know, if someone comeback and told me they were from the furture with out proof i wouldn't believe them but you would still have the memmory of it happening and the laws that may be placed apon time travel would have to be broken, people are greedy if it was possibly to go back someone would tell thier past self or reletieves the lotterry numbers and any other winners in gambling such as horses.

Now just say all these variables and possible others were over come do you reckon its a good theory to disprove time travel i would really like to hear what people have to say on the matter. CHEERS

Where have you been the last few months when this page had 3 and 4 topics of time travel on it? Got to search, type in "time travel*" and read some things you need to know about time travel. We don't need to disprove time travel into the past as there is no documented proof of it happening, so it's just as well to say we haven't accomplished it yet. But I think you need to read some of the previous topics.

As far as this statement "Since i or know else does, doesn't this disprove time travel backwards into the past", it doesn't disprove time travel into the past. Just because you made a pact with someone to come back and tell you time travel in the past is possible doesn't mean they will. Also ... how do you know they'll have access to it? Scientists have access and will probably send info back to themselves ... not back to the average Joe telling them this and that exists in the future.

You need to read some of the posts though and get familiar with the workings behidn time travel and the theories around it.

You can't change the past .... no matter what we've played out how we've played out. We can change our futures, but not the past.



Gene

duh!

Wouldn't have to make these posts if the newbies would do some research. And from your apparent addition to the conversation, you're quite the pro on it yourself.

should we travel back before this post see one another would we know we were ever here hehehhhehehehee

Where's the fun in that though? Isn't 50% simply just chatting for the sake of chatting? I think it is.

And anyways - discussing space/time etc is as about as 'rational' a conversation as we can have - I'd argue in any case.

As for time travel - I don't think it is possible (yes, duh!).

But Ive got a slightly different take on why not - people tend to use the example of a logical paradox - how can you have a conversation with yourself? If you do something to your grandad etc etc etc.

But how about this one? Thinking of 'matter'. You'd need to remove, say, 75kg of matter from time frame 'a' - and place it in time frame 'b'. Doesn't this create some sort of 'conservation/balance' issues - in that you assume that e=mc2 - and therefore (IMO) you'd assume (OK, my conjecture) that at any given moment in time - the total energy/matter totality/balance etc remains constant.

So, is it scientifically/physically/theoretically possible to transport matter from one 'time' frame to another without breaking any rules regarding 'balance' as such?

Even if it was simply a chunk of rock - but then again - it would still be tricky to do ( - can't beleive I said that, tricky?).

For instance - you (somehow) invent something that you think can teleport a chunk of rock 1 hour into the future. You put it in - it disappears - and it reappears 1 hour latter. I can't see how thats a concept that clashes with 'relativity' as such - in that the rock is just experiencing '0' time whilst you are experiencing '1 hour' of time - then the two 'densities' of time get remerged - if you've followed how I think about these things. But then would it 'visually' disappear?

for example - if you were to use a mechanical clock - or one of those funny fluid things were you see a purple liquid/oil dropping from the top and going down a ramp or two - would you simply see it stop for an hour - before restarting again - or would it disappear totally?

I'll cheer up Gene at this point and revisit a previous thread for a bit

If we ever get time travel, I seriously doubt that the government will be like, "Oh sure go back in time to see your family for the hell of it." It will be greatly restricted imo.

If and when time travel is finally cracked the human race will destroy itself, think about it...just a heads up.

Travel back to english class.




Why would this place just for 50% pointless chatter? I come to exchange info and experiences, and have a laugh along the way ... not to see how everyone is doing. I have MSN and such to ask people about what theyre at today and all the fun stuff you love to talk about to one another. To many different people this place is a lot of things, and to each one of us it's different. What each of us want it to be and what it is is also different. So I guess my want for the majority of serious conversation, at least serious topics, is pointless. I can have fun, but when the thread starts out by asking something that talked about in the last little while, "where's the fun in that?"

You don't need to entertain me and go visit another thread ... but that's your business and I can't make you do it. I've read your posts and I notice that you don't state what pops into your head off the bat ... you at least look like you know what you're talking about. So this wasn't intended for you ... more along the lines of the people who don't wish to use the search on this page ... or even Google, Yahoo or whatever other search engines there are. My first day on this forum I learned how to use the search feature because I didn't want to look stupid.

I guess I'm no longer new to this place and now that I've spent hours upon hours here everyday for the last 8 or 9 months, I've come accostomed to the same topics being posted and going nowhere and I guess lately I'm getting sick of them. But it's not my place to do anything about it ... and "if I don't like it I can skip over it". Wrong ... thanks to a few hard a$$es around here, my brain got kicked into gear when thinking about a topic. I'm just passing on the favor. Sorry if it seems harsh and pointless to some .... but when the newness wears off you'll be doing the same.

Cheers,

Gene

I highly doubt it too Rambo. Be cool to do .... not the whole go see family bit ... I'd be jumping around and getting all the questions I have answered. Someday in the history of the Earth ... we will each be able to do it and you will buy a time machine off a shelf like a bag of chips.



How do you mean? Could you explain Inhuman?


Thanks,

Gene

No distrespect but stop being such a tight-ass (in no way reflecting your physical condition) and let him state his view/opinions/thoughts without them getting lost in the forest of the threads that have been made through the years..

Anyways, if we did finally gain the ability to travel back, you can bet anything that the people with the knowledge would either a) Fall into their greed and use the technology for self-gain, or (not likely) they would destroy it to keep humanity from endangering its self.

Think off all the ways that you could benifit, you could make money, change the past to further whichever agenda/political goal you had, and the dangers of something gonig horribly wrong and the universe collapsing on itself would probably not be apparent because the people would be so fixated on the possiblities they had/have/will have.

To start with i only joined last month, so where i was before that was living my life. How can i go read somethings "i need to learn abot time travel", what can i learn about time travel noone knows "jack" about time travel as far as we know time travel could possible by slamming your head agaisnt a wall, while screaming yankee doodle the exact right amount of times. I wasn't trying to disprove time travel it was just a idea on a theory that could disprove time travel "DUH". And if i did make a pact with someone to go back in time they would cause i said they would because my word is "BOSS"(thats right you heard me i'm completely up myself). For having the actual access to time travel
and all the are varibles that would probarly go into play you may notice at the bottom of my post it states, just say none of these varibles didn't come into play do you think it would still be possible. P.S you can change your past if you get enough new identities that your acctuall past history couldn't be found you whould have CHANGED YOUR PAST TO WHAT OTHERS KNOW, key words 'your past', that would be considered changing your past to many.

Once again read last paragraph.

Well let me be the first to tell you that you are wrong. If you had of done your research, scientists are very very close to time travel. And it isn't as far as we knoiw ... it's as far as YOU know.



Well I'll apologize. The topic title threw me off a little bit being "Disproving Time Travel". Kind of threw me for a loop there.




I don't even know what that says.


"No distrespect but stop being such a tight-ass (in no way reflecting your physical condition) and let him state his view/opinions/thoughts without them getting lost in the forest of the threads that have been made through the years.."

I'm not really being a tight-a$$. I'm just stating me views/opinions/thoughts really. This is what I think of this thread and I guessif people can't accept other views then they shouldn't make topics. I know where he's coming from ... but I also know that I don't agree with it. I'm not telling him to stop posting ... I'm telling him to get knowledgable before he does. Nothing wrong with that. There's a few members here who don't beat around the bush when expressing themselves .... sorry but I'm one of them. I don't see the point in sugar coating an answer that has been given so many times. But that's just me and I'm probably going to leave it at that.


Oh, and Inhuman.... I agree with your post about people using it for greed and self destruction. The sad part of reality is that people are in it for themselves.


Cheers,

Gene

well maybe they had actually discovered time travel, but wouldn't want to go back and tell you, because the world isn't ready yet.

time travel backward is impossible because at 1/infinity of a second you would be in the same space as your past self, results would get messy

Yeah sorry Gene, My first post was poorly written i probably should have stated, that it was only i random idea i had at time to disprove time travel backwards(my bad). As for my return remakes i was in crappy mood, haven't slept much recently, it was kinda all over the place. Sorry i do appreciate your comments and shouldn't have let it get to me so much at time i usually take criticism well.

Yeah that would be pretty "bloody" messy. Now this has probably been talk about before but what if time doesn't go backwards and forwards but left and right(sorry don't know how do describe this well) as in every moment in time happens at the exact same time so to go backwards you would really be going left or right to different point in time.