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ShaunZero
After watching "What the bleep do we know", and reading a few other articles, I started wondering.... Can one particle ACTUALLY be in two places at the same time, or is this a misinterpretation of what's being observed on the quantum level? Are there any updates to these claims? After looking it up, I get mixed opinions, some of it easy to understand, others are not.

I also heard the story of a man called "Mr. Emotto" who focused on bottles of water, to change water with just his mind. Supposedly the test resulted in positive results.
too_animalistic
QUOTE(Zero of Deism @ Sep 6 2007, 01:07 AM) *
After watching "What the bleep do we know", and reading a few other articles, I started wondering.... Can one particle ACTUALLY be in two places at the same time, or is this a misinterpretation of what's being observed on the quantum level? Are there any updates to these claims? After looking it up, I get mixed opinions, some of it easy to understand, others are not.

I also heard the story of a man called "Mr. Emotto" who focused on bottles of water, to change water with just his mind. Supposedly the test resulted in positive results.


It totally depends. What if time is physical and our ideas of physics are slightly wrong. Time could be measured as a wave function of particles like anything else. Perhaps Neutrinos are actually time units passing through other waves. SO you would need very differnt time particles and have them both share the space of intersecting waves types of other particles. Then a unit of matter could share the properties of two different units of time.
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(Zero of Deism @ Sep 6 2007, 07:07 AM) *
After watching "What the bleep do we know", and reading a few other articles, I started wondering.... Can one particle ACTUALLY be in two places at the same time, or is this a misinterpretation of what's being observed on the quantum level? Are there any updates to these claims? After looking it up, I get mixed opinions, some of it easy to understand, others are not.

I also heard the story of a man called "Mr. Emotto" who focused on bottles of water, to change water with just his mind. Supposedly the test resulted in positive results.


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What were these positive results, what changes to the water were made, do you know?
salacia
QUOTE(Lotus Flower @ Sep 6 2007, 05:42 PM) *
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What were these positive results, what changes to the water were made, do you know?


In regard to the results on water, I posted this over on the "Freemasonry Search for the Lost Word" thread. It applies here as well:

In his book, "Messages From Water," Dr. Masaru Emoto published photographs of water crystals after they were frozen. He first subjects the water to various types of human emotions or music. Then he freezes it and photographs the frozen crystals. He has found that water that has experienced beautiful music or positive words and sounds undergoes a molecular change into harmonious geometrical forms when frozen. The molecular change from negative words or chaotic music results in ugly crystals.

You can purchase this book at amazon.com.
wolfieboy
QUOTE(too_animalistic @ Sep 6 2007, 01:30 AM) *
It totally depends. What if time is physical and our ideas of physics are slightly wrong. Time could be measured as a wave function of particles like anything else. Perhaps Neutrinos are actually time units passing through other waves. SO you would need very differnt time particles and have them both share the space of intersecting waves types of other particles. Then a unit of matter could share the properties of two different units of time.



well more like time is a pillar of reference. you stand at this pillar and look out into a steady flow of movement. as you watch at the pillar, time seems to be still and everything else is relative to the focus of your gaze. once you move your focus into the stream of motion you begin to sense the flow of time as your reference point [ie: pillar] begins to extend you focus from the beginning of focus to the point of expectation. basicly time is a perception not a physical property. or thats what this wolf thinks later ppls this was fun
ShaunZero
QUOTE(salacia @ Sep 6 2007, 04:58 PM) *
In regard to the results on water, I posted this over on the "Freemasonry Search for the Lost Word" thread. It applies here as well:

In his book, "Messages From Water," Dr. Masaru Emoto published photographs of water crystals after they were frozen. He first subjects the water to various types of human emotions or music. Then he freezes it and photographs the frozen crystals. He has found that water that has experienced beautiful music or positive words and sounds undergoes a molecular change into harmonious geometrical forms when frozen. The molecular change from negative words or chaotic music results in ugly crystals.

You can purchase this book at amazon.com.


Hmm, so are these studies considered valid evidence that the mind can effect water? God, I hate my skeptical side XD. Hard for me to accept anything now.
Lotus Flower
QUOTE(salacia @ Sep 6 2007, 10:58 PM) *
In regard to the results on water, I posted this over on the "Freemasonry Search for the Lost Word" thread. It applies here as well:

In his book, "Messages From Water," Dr. Masaru Emoto published photographs of water crystals after they were frozen. He first subjects the water to various types of human emotions or music. Then he freezes it and photographs the frozen crystals. He has found that water that has experienced beautiful music or positive words and sounds undergoes a molecular change into harmonious geometrical forms when frozen. The molecular change from negative words or chaotic music results in ugly crystals.

You can purchase this book at amazon.com.

Wow interesting, thanks Salacia thumbsup.gif!

*Trots off to the Freemasonry Search for the Lost Word thread*
Darkflame
It's theorically possible for one particle be at two times at the same time. For that purpose the particle has to travel at a speed far beyond the speed of light, but it's theorically possible. The expression of you can see it here and i in another place can see it too, it's possible cause the object travels at a speed so great our eyes can't match, even measure equipments, so we get two objects in different places that are actually the same object,for a small fraction of time. That's what i read btw happy.gif
Startraveler
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Can one particle ACTUALLY be in two places at the same time, or is this a misinterpretation of what's being observed on the quantum level? Are there any updates to these claims?


Superposition (being in multiple states at the same time) is pretty fundamental to quantum theory. There's always an element of philosophy (I suppose you'd call it) in interpreting what the underlying math "actually" means but it seems very much like things really are in multiple states at once sometimes.
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