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Abdullah
ALIENS IN THE QURAN


Introduction
According to Imam Muhammad Ghazali (11th Century),people in some of these planetary worlds have learnt to travel and communicate with each other." (72)
On 7th August 1996,NASA (1) scientists made an announcement that made front page headlines throughout the world.Within a Martian meteorite,they had found evidence of a microscopic lifeform that may have existed on Mars more than three billion years ago. (2) Although other studies were later published which challenged this conclusion, (3) numerous recent discoveries,for example,the discovery by the Galileo spacecraft, (4) in February 1997,of a possible red-coloured sea under the ice crust of Jupiter's moon,Europa, (5) are raising hopes that we may soon be able to get an answer to one of the oldest and most interesting questions asked by humans-"Is anyone out there,or are we alone in the universe?"

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JimOberg
I understand that many conservative mullahs are teaching that the apollo flights were faked,
because the Quran says that space travel to the moon is forbidden to humans.

There are other space legends associated with Islamic beliefs:

A phone call from an old friend in the US State Department once led to another bizarre space tale associated with human tragedy. The roots of the Lebanese civil war are tangled with international diplomacy, Palestinian struggles, and other earthly reasons. But one incident seems to have helped start the process of poisoning the peaceful Moslem-Christian relationship which had endured for centuries: the Apollo moon landing. During the 1960s, several of the more conservative Moslem clerics in Lebanon reportedly proclaimed that the Moon was holy and pure and was not to be defiled by human touch. This was based on Koranic teachings. More progressive elements, both Moslem and Christian, argued against this doctrinaire view, and it was a point for philosophical disputation. Then the astronauts landed in mid-1969, and then again and again in succeeding years.

A particularly nasty joke began spreading among the Christian community. Those stupid imans! Not only have the Americans walked on your "holy Moon", they have defecated upon it. So much for medieval Koranic teachings! Many people had a good, cruel laugh at the expense of the conservative Moslem statements, and many Moslems who had never believed the original proclamations felt deeply insulted. It was not the cause of the ensuing bloodshed, but it helped pave the way by breaking down the longstanding mutual respect and toleration which once had characterized Lebanon.

My friend in Washington was curious: had the astronauts in fact left feces on the moon? It wasn't hard to check. No, they hadn't, the doctors wanted all the material returned for study. The nasty joke, and the ill will that resulted from it, were all mistakes.

The more I looked around, the wider I found this mystifying "myth-ifying" of space exploration. For example, anything that calls Neil Armstrong out of retirement has got to be important. In 1986, it was by request of the President, to help with the space shuttle disaster board of inquiry. But three years earlier, the reclusive first man on the Moon had taken part in not one but two special teleconferences with reporters, a breed of humanity he generally shuns. Oddly, the topic in 1983 was not what happened on his Apollo-11 lunar mission, but what didn't happen.

According to rumors which were circulating worldwide, when Armstrong set foot on the Moon in 1969, he heard a human voice, chanting in a foreign language. Upon his return to Earth he found out that this had been the Moslem call to prayer for the faithful. The miracle prompted the astronaut to convert to Islam, and NASA consequently expelled him from the astronaut program.

The story appeared first in India in the spring of 1983, then popped up again in Egypt, Pakistan, and the Phillipines. The US Information Agency (USIA) arranged for Armstrong to talk to newsmen in New Delhi and Cairo, via a remote hookup from his office in southwest Ohio, to deny the widely-believed story. Analysts from the USIA and the State Department at first believed the stories were being deliberately concocted and spread by Soviet puppet press organs, as part of "disinformation" to smear the US government (in this case, for alleged anti-Islamic bias). But the explanation seemed to be much grander: in space, anything is possible.
ships-cat
I've reported this post. Couldn't Abdulla have summarised the point, and given links ?

Abdullah CLAIMED to give links, but they where just text.

This seems to be a religious evangelism, not a serious attempt to discuss the issue. ?

Meow Purr.
Magikman
Abdullah,

I've added a link to what I believe is the original article, please keep in mind that there is copyright issues in copying and pasting entire articles from another source and not adding a link to the original. Thank you for your understanding.

MM
Abdullah
QUOTE(Magikman @ Sep 6 2007, 11:01 PM) *
Abdullah,

I've added a link to what I believe is the original article, please keep in mind that there is copyright issues in copying and pasting entire articles from another source and not adding a link to the original. Thank you for your understanding.

MM



This was a scientific article not to convert people , i justed wanted to show the islamic view on Aliens and U-F-O's since the article has no copy right it is used by many other websites , there is nothing wrong by posting it , In islam we believe in sharing not in copyrights ,
Abdullah
QUOTE(JimOberg @ Sep 6 2007, 10:38 PM) *
I understand that many conservative mullahs are teaching that the apollo flights were faked,
because the Quran says that space travel to the moon is forbidden to humans.

There are other space legends associated with Islamic beliefs:

A phone call from an old friend in the US State Department once led to another bizarre space tale associated with human tragedy. The roots of the Lebanese civil war are tangled with international diplomacy, Palestinian struggles, and other earthly reasons. But one incident seems to have helped start the process of poisoning the peaceful Moslem-Christian relationship which had endured for centuries: the Apollo moon landing. During the 1960s, several of the more conservative Moslem clerics in Lebanon reportedly proclaimed that the Moon was holy and pure and was not to be defiled by human touch. This was based on Koranic teachings. More progressive elements, both Moslem and Christian, argued against this doctrinaire view, and it was a point for philosophical disputation. Then the astronauts landed in mid-1969, and then again and again in succeeding years.

A particularly nasty joke began spreading among the Christian community. Those stupid imans! Not only have the Americans walked on your "holy Moon", they have defecated upon it. So much for medieval Koranic teachings! Many people had a good, cruel laugh at the expense of the conservative Moslem statements, and many Moslems who had never believed the original proclamations felt deeply insulted. It was not the cause of the ensuing bloodshed, but it helped pave the way by breaking down the longstanding mutual respect and toleration which once had characterized Lebanon.

My friend in Washington was curious: had the astronauts in fact left feces on the moon? It wasn't hard to check. No, they hadn't, the doctors wanted all the material returned for study. The nasty joke, and the ill will that resulted from it, were all mistakes.

The more I looked around, the wider I found this mystifying "myth-ifying" of space exploration. For example, anything that calls Neil Armstrong out of retirement has got to be important. In 1986, it was by request of the President, to help with the space shuttle disaster board of inquiry. But three years earlier, the reclusive first man on the Moon had taken part in not one but two special teleconferences with reporters, a breed of humanity he generally shuns. Oddly, the topic in 1983 was not what happened on his Apollo-11 lunar mission, but what didn't happen.

According to rumors which were circulating worldwide, when Armstrong set foot on the Moon in 1969, he heard a human voice, chanting in a foreign language. Upon his return to Earth he found out that this had been the Moslem call to prayer for the faithful. The miracle prompted the astronaut to convert to Islam, and NASA consequently expelled him from the astronaut program.

The story appeared first in India in the spring of 1983, then popped up again in Egypt, Pakistan, and the Phillipines. The US Information Agency (USIA) arranged for Armstrong to talk to newsmen in New Delhi and Cairo, via a remote hookup from his office in southwest Ohio, to deny the widely-believed story. Analysts from the USIA and the State Department at first believed the stories were being deliberately concocted and spread by Soviet puppet press organs, as part of "disinformation" to smear the US government (in this case, for alleged anti-Islamic bias). But the explanation seemed to be much grander: in space, anything is possible.


Jim , Islam is not against science , if you would study islamic history you would know that there were many islamic scientists and inventions ,

Also you said : I understand that many conservative mullahs are teaching that the apollo flights were faked,
because the Quran says that space travel to the moon is forbidden to humans. <<< bring your proof before you make such a statement i like you to quote the name of the Mullah and from wich source you got it , since i never heard any Alim(scholar preaching that) . Islam encourages Science so if you could provide some evidence would be great
Magnatude
I'm happy to see more openness in the Muslim thinking about extra terrestrial life.
Its great to hear about this in such times Abdullah, Assalamu alaikum
Magikman
QUOTE(Abdullah @ Sep 6 2007, 10:56 PM) *
This was a scientific article not to convert people , i justed wanted to show the islamic view on Aliens and U-F-O's since the article has no copy right it is used by many other websites , there is nothing wrong by posting it , In islam we believe in sharing not in copyrights ,


I didn't say anything about you trying to 'convert' people, I was more interested in making you aware of the boards policy concerning copying and pasting entire articles in a thread, as clearly stated in the guidelines at the top of this page;
Members are also asked to avoid copying and pasting huge amounts of text from other web sites to support an argument. One or two quoted paragraphs and a source link are more than sufficient, and always include your own opinion to go along with any quoted material you use.
Even if there aren't any copyright considerations, this is the the method we prefer our members follow, understand now?
outlooker
QUOTE(Abdullah @ Sep 6 2007, 03:59 PM) *
Jim , Islam is not against science , if you would study islamic history you would know that there were many islamic scientists and inventions ,

Also you said : I understand that many conservative mullahs are teaching that the apollo flights were faked,
because the Quran says that space travel to the moon is forbidden to humans. <<< bring your proof before you make such a statement i like you to quote the name of the Mullah and from wich source you got it , since i never heard any Alim(scholar preaching that) . Islam encourages Science so if you could provide some evidence would be great


Wow, it sounds like you know a lot about the Muslim religion. I have a question. Is it true that some Muslims believe that the 12th Imam Mahdi (pbuh) is going to return to earth in a spaceship? Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is always talking about him.
like this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...14/ixworld.html
Unpro
Abdullah, I want to u to ponder on these verses....

2:79 So woe to those who write the Scripture with their hands then say: "This is from God," so that they can seek a cheap gain! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.


stop the nonsense that this and that came from the Quran.

and to the rest of the readers here, what he wrote up there has got nothing to do with Quran. Islam teaches that there is no intercession between human and God, and here we got someone who claimed someone who claimed himself an Imam and closer to God and people must go through him to get closer to God...
OldSalt
"In Islam, we believe in sharing, not copyrights".

*snip*
Abdullah
QUOTE(Unpro @ Sep 7 2007, 04:16 AM) *
Abdullah, I want to u to ponder on these verses....

2:79 So woe to those who write the Scripture with their hands then say: "This is from God," so that they can seek a cheap gain! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.
stop the nonsense that this and that came from the Quran.

and to the rest of the readers here, what he wrote up there has got nothing to do with Quran. Islam teaches that there is no intercession between human and God, and here we got someone who claimed someone who claimed himself an Imam and closer to God and people must go through him to get closer to God...



2:79 So woe to those who write the Scripture with their hands then say: "This is from God," so that they can seek a cheap gain! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they gained.
stop the nonsense that this and that came from the Quran. <<< this is about those who changed the Taurat and the Injil not about Alien life , if you would read the Tafsir of the Quran you would understand that.

Islam teaches that there is no intercession between human and God, and here we got someone who claimed someone who claimed himself an Imam and closer to God and people must go through him to get closer to God... <<< Baseless lie

We believe that the relation between mankind and God is important , but Islam teaches pure monotheism (Tawheed) Tawheed al Uluhiya explains that we can only ask God directly for help , since seeking help ibadah is a type of worship and worship is only for God , in Islam we believe in Supplication , opening the hands and asking God for help , if you would study Tawheed you would understand our relation with God , we are strongly against any kind of Paganism or Worshipping of Saints , when we are in need we ask God almighty directly for help , if you have any questions most welcome.


Abdullah
QUOTE(outlooker @ Sep 7 2007, 03:52 AM) *
Wow, it sounds like you know a lot about the Muslim religion. I have a question. Is it true that some Muslims believe that the 12th Imam Mahdi (pbuh) is going to return to earth in a spaceship? Iranian President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is always talking about him.
like this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...14/ixworld.html



i know my religion yes ,

1. Imam Mahdi is not the 12 imam , thats a Iranian Shia Fairytale
2. We muslims believe in Al Mahdi he will appear at the end of times alongside with Prophet Jesus a.s
3.Imam Mahdi returning in a spaceship there is no proof from the Hadith or Quran for that ,
4.i would like to inform you that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is not an islamic scholar , he is a Shia wich is a complete different religion but lets not get into that ,

if you have any more questions youre most welcome
grc
Sometimes I feel like the religion is only complicating the relationship between people.
GirlInBlack
QUOTE(grc @ Sep 7 2007, 10:41 AM) *
Sometimes I feel like the religion is only complicating the relationship between people.



Take away religion in all forms, and stop people from reproducing so much. If you could do that you would solve 99 percent of the problems on our planet. Thats another discussion all together though.

Interesting post. I am curious what other religions have to say about alien life.
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