I could not repeat more, that what i have learned from the spirits, is that every Evil we commit, every belief we believe, in any Hell, Satan, or Sin, is completely from our own Desires and Lusts from the soul. Satan/Devil and Hell with Sins is our own desired creation!

There is no such Entity in the realm of God, for we are Creators. We create what we desire, and so let it Be.
This is why so many Wars have appeared, so many crimes commited, and Pure Evil Sin that doesnt exist in reality. See what we are doing to ourselves? I think its time to slap ourselves and to wake up and smell the coffee from above. We all know we are croaking for a coffee, so why not have a cup?

you are correct in some ways. evil is a human construct(if that is the right word). there is no good or evil in nature just harmony

How do you know these spirits are being honest with you? How do you know what thy are telling you is the truth?

Satan will try to mislead people untill Yawm al Qiyama ,
all Evil things come from Satan , Wars , Murder , Crimes , Incest , Homosexuality and so on ,
The Jihad With Satan Is a Jihad That Will End When A Person Dies,

I actually agree with the OP!
Why do people try to place the origin of all perceived "evil" in the world on an untouchable being such as Satan?
I think most people just wouldn't want the responsibility...

What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core. - Hannah Arendt



Science may have found a cure for most evils; but it has found no remedy for the worst of them all -- the apathy of human beings.
- Hellen Keller

a common misunderstanding today is that sins are only a product of our environment or social areas.

Hey there ,

Sounds quite cartesian to me ! Remember his first Meditation ?

"Descartes writes: “I will suppose, then, not that Deity, who is sovereignly good and the fountain of truth, but that some malignant demon, who is at once exceedingly potent and deceitful, has employed all his artifice to deceive me; I will suppose that the sky, the air, the earth, colors, figures, sounds, and all external things, are nothing better than the illusions of dreams, by means of which this being has laid snares for my credulity …”

Descartes, by the end of his Meditation, has laid a serious foundation for the ultimate level of doubt which later would pave the way for Western rationalism, which cites human reason as the principle source of knowledge.

source :http://www.lofitribe.com/2007/01/06/quick-thoughts-on-descartes-first-meditation/


God is all good and we are not . We are vulnerable .. so we deceive ourselves by demons , who are not God's creation , because God only creates good .

Well , although I am a confirmed cartesian dualist , I still wonder sometimes where those demons come from ... !
Descartes has certainly contaminated me with his famous doubt !

And , I liked your post very much ... makes one think . Thank you.

Good and Evil are just words, ideas created by us. Sorta like Beutiful or Ugly.
There is no such thing as duality, these are constructs of measurment in our mind. And they are based on ones individual perspective not on absolute truth, therefore they are illusions, shadows or veils of the mind.

No matter what you may believe as for theory of the root of evil, we all know that the "desire to self serve" is a strong presence.

No matter what religion you are, if you could just love others as you love yourself (respect others, and be a good example of what you believe in) ... if everyone could do this without "serving self desires" imagine what would happen to our world.

Most of you here are making me happy! You understand, in your souls, that Evil is a complete construct of human desire. They preach in the Bible that "Satan" has lured so many people to do such stupid things. Can you look at it from a different perspective guys? All you against me, take a time to reflect.
In the Bible it say that Satan is a demonic angel or other craps of the sorts. When you really think of it, it means that evil desires or thoughts have dominated human beings so much to the point for God or Jesus to call it an entity. Or such sin has manifested to the point. For both of them know evil doesnt exist, Satan does not exist and Hell has never existed. We, the sick ones, create evil as JOY or BLISS. Understand now?

BUT BEWARE CRIMINALS - Something much more devastating will be in store for you! When you pass on, you wont go to a blissful place, for your concious soul will have the state of evil desire, and therefore, what you want manifested, is where you will go, until you learn in the spirit realm, that you can change your destiny by one simple thought of love.

"Limbo" or "Purgatory" is the meeting place, or "Lobby" where your loved ones greet you. From there, is where your own destiny is controlled from your soul-derived desires.

Nice fairy tale. One thing I hate about the religious in the western civilization, everyones a holy man. Its like F centurys of holy text and revelations lets just make up what feels good to us.


A man of God searches for truth for he desires only God. But a man of this world only seek half-truths and lies so that he may cover his own inadequacy.

There is no sin, there is no shame before God. For you were not made for the law but it is the law that was made for you.

Gold, love, pain, evil and good all these things are illusions of the world. This world is like a hag adorned with fine jewlery. She has widowed all her husbands yet men of this world seek to wed her. This is the reason for mans suffering.

I believe you claim to have read and to some extent believe the Urantia Book but most of your recent posts directly contradict its contents. The UB does in fact validate the existence of a being named Satan and also separate beings named Lucifer and Caligastia. Caligastia is the one we commonly call "The Devil" and is the apostate Planetary Prince of our world, having joined the rebellion begun by Lucifer. None of these three have the ability to force anyone to commit evil acts, though they certainly can (or at least could in the past) manipulate people and circumstances to create temptation and doubt. After Jesus completed his mission on Earth, Lucifer (and Satan as well, if I remember correctly) was imprisoned and Caligastia was rendered almost completely impotent, though he does remain here for the time being. This is an extremely brief description of the beings and events in the Lucifer Rebellion. If you are interested in reading more, a good place to start is Papers 53 and 54 in the Urantia book entitled "The Lucifer Rebellion" and "Problems of the Lucifer Rebellion", respectively. I will also certainly attempt to answer any questions to the best of my ability.

Further on topic, the terms "evil", "sin" and "iniquity" are frequently thrown around as if they were equivalent, but there are definite distinctions between the use of the terms. I would sum them up as follows.

evil: Mistaken or bad judgment, even if the intention was for good. (Bad judgment according to whom? God, of course.)

sin: Deliberate choosing to do evil or go against the will of God.

iniquity: Wholehearted and persistent devotion to sin.

The following are some quotes from the Urantia Book regarding these three terms. There are many more which help further define the terms, but I chose some which I felt were most clear and succinct. You can read the Urantia Book online at http://www.urantiabook.org. That site also has a topical index you can use to search out more information on these terms or any other topic of interest.

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3:5.15 The possibility of mistaken judgment (evil) becomes sin only when the human will consciously endorses and knowingly embraces a deliberate immoral judgment.
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130:1.5 Jesus' last visit with Gadiah had to do with a discussion of good and evil. This young Philistine was much troubled by a feeling of injustice because of the presence of evil in the world alongside the good. He said: "How can God, if he is infinitely good, permit us to suffer the sorrows of evil; after all, who creates evil?" It was still believed by many in those days that God creates both good and evil, but Jesus never taught such error. In answering this question, Jesus said: "My brother, God is love; therefore he must be good, and his goodness is so great and real that it cannot contain the small and unreal things of evil. God is so positively good that there is absolutely no place in him for negative evil. Evil is the immature choosing and the unthinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth. Evil is only the misadaptation of immaturity or the disruptive and distorting influence of ignorance. Evil is the inevitable darkness which follows upon the heels of the unwise rejection of light. Evil is that which is dark and untrue, and which, when consciously embraced and willfully endorsed, becomes sin.
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75:4.3 Good is the carrying out of the divine plans; sin is a deliberate transgression of the divine will; evil is the misadaptation of plans and the maladjustment of techniques resulting in universe disharmony and planetary confusion.
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89:10.2 Sin must be redefined as deliberate disloyalty to Deity. There are degrees of disloyalty: the partial loyalty of indecision; the divided loyalty of confliction; the dying loyalty of indifference; and the death of loyalty exhibited in devotion to godless ideals.

89:10.3 The sense or feeling of guilt is the consciousness of the violation of the mores; it is not necessarily sin. There is no real sin in the absence of conscious disloyalty to Deity.
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148:4.6 "By nature, before the rebirth of the spirit, mortal man is subject to inherent evil tendencies, but such natural imperfections of behavior are neither sin nor iniquity. Mortal man is just beginning his long ascent to the perfection of the Father in Paradise. To be imperfect or partial in natural endowment is not sinful. Man is indeed subject to evil, but he is in no sense the child of the evil one unless he has knowingly and deliberately chosen the paths of sin and the life of iniquity. Evil is inherent in the natural order of this world, but sin is an attitude of conscious rebellion which was brought to this world by those who fell from spiritual light into gross darkness.
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67:1.4 There are many ways of looking at sin, but from the universe philosophic viewpoint sin is the attitude of a personality who is knowingly resisting cosmic reality. Error might be regarded as a misconception or distortion of reality. Evil is a partial realization of, or maladjustment to, universe realities. But sin is a purposeful resistance to divine reality -- a conscious choosing to oppose spiritual progress -- while iniquity consists in an open and persistent defiance of recognized reality and signifies such a degree of personality disintegration as to border on cosmic insanity.

67:1.5 Error suggests lack of intellectual keenness; evil, deficiency of wisdom; sin, abject spiritual poverty; but iniquity is indicative of vanishing personality control.

67:1.6 And when sin has so many times been chosen and so often been repeated, it may become habitual. Habitual sinners can easily become iniquitous, become wholehearted rebels against the universe and all of its divine realities.

I would agree with this as well.

The concept that an all loving God with unconditional love for all that is would have a problem with "evil" does not make sense to me.

The human on the other hand has all kinds of problems with many things. One solution is to create a being like Satan who is responsable for all the things we do not like. The interesting thing then becomes does God unconditionally love the being called Satan. Some would say yes but God condems the "evil". So the concept of unconditional love for all that is does not apply to the things a human does not like.

I suspect I am not the only one who sees this as a flawed concept.

John

The simple reason God "condemns" evil is because to him, he hates seeing it in us. He wants each of his creatures to fully experience his Divine Love the way it was meant to be experienced from the beginning. Paradise was the beginning, we are the now. He gave us Free Will, so we chose to go the opposite direction of God's love by creating all these different religions and action figures - if you will - to trick our minds in thinking there were more than one God.
Boy, arent the Egyptians enjoying that big surprise!

Would kinda suck to go into the next dimension and ask where the sun god was. Ha. Hilarious.

The Celestials know of the fact we need a correcting time, and God has sent them, on a mission to do so.

Call it fantasy-fiction, but the truth is the truth. They are coming.


.........and personally, I cant wait!!!

If one believes in a perfect God, then there is NO evil. This world is, created by God, a perfect machinery to polish us.

I havent read all of these, so please excuse if I comment out of turn but...

In my opinion, I would agree with some here... good / evil are fabrication of human.
I'd love to think that perhaps there was a 'place' of bliss, but if you just sit in a garden or on a hillside somewhere and watch the Nature happen around us, you can see that our tales of 'unconditional' love or evil simply cant be the total truth.

Nature destroys to recreate. And it's both a blissful sight as well as our worst nightmares.
God as being 'unconditional love' is not consistent with Nature.
Evil as being 'unconditional bad' is also not consistent with Nature.

I think we take up a belief, mostly because we don't look into ourselves.
We are and contain both...as does Nature.
If we are out of balance and require a 'god', then so we believe.
If we are out of balance and need something to 'blame', then so we call this 'evil' or 'devil' or Satan or whatever...

EVIL backwards is LIVE.
DEVIL backwards is LIVED.
GOD backwards is DOG.

And those are just 'backwards' ... Nature has also twists and turns in storms.
Your body has all of the above... we internally destroy and recreate for life. Our cells, skin, hair, etc...

It's hard for me to subscribe to 'one' idea.
One is a singular. It can't reproduce...or evolve without incorporating something else.

1 plus nothing is just one.
1+1 is something else...and greater then one.

My 2bits. And actually... that would be Me, Myself and I's 2 bits.
Interesting post for sure! Thanks!