This is from NSA website about ufos. The document talks about ufos and keeps stating in brackets (probably balloons) and much of the documents has been blacked out. It reports ufos as probably balloons, but mentions nothing about corroborating evidence to prove that allegation. If a UFO beached American airspace, you would think that fighter jets would have been scrambled to intercept said UFO to ascertain what is was…but nothing is mentioned of it, only radar tracking. So much for securing our airsapce. Some instances of altitudes at around 90,000 to 100,000 feet altitude with unknown speed.

the government files:

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/ufo00044.pdf

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/ufo00045.pdf

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/ufo00046.pdf

on 00044.pdf, reel 1399, frame 680 it states: "this project is classified Top Secret Umbra in its entirety (blacked out text) took place 6 months ago in the (blacked out text) region and the increase in flying saucer activty, which he explained as having a connection with the plan (blacked out text)" MS99737 292 #3971 NNN

Exactly, why black out top secret info on baloons?

The links wouldn't open on my PC

I would like to know what plan the document is talking about in context as it relates to flying saucers, and it says flying saucers. A Plan/Flying Saucers? What?

It is hard to believe that balloons can generate so much attention and wished there were more data. Where I noticed movement toward the west, it would be nice to compare wind data at that timeframe at the atltitudes indicated. In other words, if the wind direction at altitude was toward the east, then there is a problem with those objects as being balloons.

TheVocalist, you need only Adobe Acrobat Reader to view these (and its free)..
Here is one place where you can review and download it:
http://www.download.com/3000-2378_4-10722555.html

Dcman, I am trying to review through the ...044.pdf file.. what the heck is the date on this, and WHERE did this take place? It's funny, it's like they are covering their @ss in this document - ie: behind every mention of "UFO" they put (PROBABLY BALLOONS or PROBABLY A BALLOON) - this is constant through this document!

Edit>> yep I see what you are talking about on page 20 of page 25 on this 044.pdf... wth?

What gets me is it does mention flying saucers in one of the files. It also states radar tracking of ballons and UFOs following the same heading, in the same sentence...meaning they have identified the ballons, but there was something else that was not identified flying near or following the balloons. Conclusion: If the U.S. government is acknowledging Flying Saucers and UFOs, who are we to dissagree with them?

damn it!
see, too much is always blacked out. why? friggin annoying

WTH is right Cinders, I'm glad you found it. I think the NSA may have some explaining to do. What Plan are they talking about? ...took place 6 months ago in the (blacked out text) region and the increase in flying saucer activty, which he explained as having a connection with the plan

...Connection with the Plan? Flying Saucers? What?

This is by far the closest thing I have seen from the government on acknowleging Flying Saucers. ...but a connection to a plan?

You've just reminded me of the balloon teams in Minnesota and at White Sands, where they were tracking their balloons when all of a sudden, flying saucers appeared, in some cases, around the balloons themselves.

I think the government doesn't want us to know the rest of the story.

Now, I know where a lot of my tax dollars are going, (black ink) and why there is so much red ink in Washington.

Where are all the debunkers with this one? I see an acknowlegement from the U.S. government about UFOs; what do the debunkers have to say about this, are they going to try and debunk the NSA?

The documents could be taken in an overall context from advice in a 1960s US Airforce Academy military textbook.
It informs cadets that:

"The UFO phenomenon has been global in nature for 50,000 years"

"UFOs are not psychological"

"Some UFOs appear to be craft controlled by aliens"

"There may be as many as four different types of alien visiting this planet"

(US Airforce actual words)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=50...h&plindex=0


Of course its just a US Airforce military textbook but considering all the other authenticated documentary evidence,the radar/sonar evidence and the sworn eyewitness testimony (from trained military observers)-it could be that the US Airforce,NORAD,NATO, and NSA know far more about the nature of UFOs than they say they do.

Guys the articles consistently state how slow the objects are moving and that they are within altitude ranges for balloons. I am not sure how some of you think this is a "trump" card because they describe the objects as unidentified. Unidentified does not mean aliens.

No some of you have come up with much better evidence than this, but those going "Where are the skeptics and debunkers now oooo" look like idiots.

The only remotely intriguing part is what it says "Took place 6 months ago in the (blank) region, and the increase in flying saucer activity, which he explained as having a connection with the plan."

Which could have the blacked out parts be something very mundane like "Look how we tricked all the dumb citizens and believers into thinking there were flying saucers, boy we sure got to test (insert secret project here) without those dummies knowing".

Seriously though, people are dumb natured if you were the head of a top secret program that was to be conducted without public knowledge and it involved anything in the sky, what kind of disinformation would you use to hide it?

Me personally, I would use UFOs as aliens since that is what the masses are so willing to buy into.

To me it seems like a good disinformation piece. If I were to write a document of this nature, I'd only reference the connection between UFOs and weather balloons once or twice (depending on the length of the document), because the reader will remember that connection. On the other hand, if I'm writing a disinformation piece, I'd do exactly what this document does, repeatedly mention that UFOs are probably balloons... The repetition will make the reader associate UFOs with balloons, in order to subconciously convince him that all UFOs are probably balloons. Putting the blacked out text and mentionning the relation to a plan just makes it all the more believable that it is a true document.

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The Strange Case of Capt. Thomas Mantell
By Paul Urbahns

PRESIDENT, ANCESTRAL TRAILS HISTORICAL SOCIETY


In this issue we examine a unique piece of Fort Knox history, which
deals with the death of Captain Thomas F. Mantell, Jr. and is based on
official documents, but those files were based on human interpretation
of the facts. Captain Mantell was considered a "hero" according to
Courier Journal newspaper reports of the day.

A graduate of Louisville Male High School entered the Air Force soon
after his graduation. He took part in the invasion of Normandy and
numerous other missions. Mantell was one of the first flyers to cross
the Cherbourg Peninsula on D-Day. he won the distinguished Flying Cross
for services over Holland. Enemy fire severed the rudder and elevator
controls and set fire to the tail sections while the plane was 100 miles
from the target. Mantell succeeded in completing his mission and getting
plane and crew home safely. Mantell separated from the Air Force about a
year before the incident we are studying here and since that time had
been associated with the Kentucky Air National Guard.

In the little town of Maysville, Kentucky, on January 7, 1948 at
approximately 1400 hours, a number of people saw a strange-looking
object in the sky. Similar to the opening credits of the old Superman
television show, the people looked heavenly in amazement. But unlike the
television series, the witnesses could not identify what they saw.

These were post World War 2 years and many people were still concerned
about attack by foreign countries. Anything unusual was noted and
discussed. The Kentucky State Police were called and reports were made.

Meanwhile, other reports of the same craft started pouring in from a
variety of locations, describing the unknown craft in similar terms: It
was round, between 250 and 300 feet in diameter, metallic in color and
glowing brightly. Many informants contended it was moving westward at "a
pretty good clip".

Members of the Kentucky State Police confirmed the sighting of an
unusual aircraft or object flying through the air. This in turn was
reported to the Commanding Officer, Godman Field, Fort Knox, Kentucky.
The Commander in turn called the Godman Tower and ask them to have
Flight Service check with Flight Test at Wright Field (now
Wright-Patterson Air Force Base) to see if they had any experimental
aircraft in that area.

Captain Hooper, at Flight Test Operations stated, We have no
experimental aircraft in that area, however, we do have a B-29 and an
A-26 on photo missions in that area."By this tiime the personnel at
Godman Tower had seen the object in question and reported ..."a disc or
balloon, or some strange object was seen hovering in the vicinity of
Godman Field" according to the report filed by Captain Arthur T. Jehli,
Shift Supervisor. The object was seen by both the Commanding Officer,
Col. Guy F. Hix, and Captain Gary W. Carter, Operations Officer of
Godman Field, who advised they would attempt to send aircraft to
ascertain the size and shape of the object. PFC Stanley Oliver, who was
on duty that afternoon in the Control Tower, stated, " I saw the object
but thought I was imagining I saw it." Oliver looked again and stated,
"...to me it had the resemblance of an ice cream cone topped with red."

This is where the story turns into a case of being in the wrong place at
the wrong time. We will quote fairly heavily from Captain Jehli's report
because it is probably the most complete chronological account of the
events of that day. Additional information from other sources will
continue to be inserted were necessary to fill in the gaps and will be
identified as such.

Captain Jehli's report continues. "At this time there was a flight of 4
P-51's enroute from Marietta Georgia to Standiford Field, Louisville,
Kentucky. The lead ship was NG3869, pilot Mantell. The Commanding
Officer, Godman Field contacted this pilot and requested that he
investigate the object overhead."

The P-51 was a propeller driven airplane commonly referred to as a
"Mustang". Actually, contact was made by Tech. Sergeant Quinton A.
Blackwell, another eye witness and chief operator in the Control Tower,
who reported about the P-51's, "As they passed over the tower I called
them on "B" channel, VHF and asked the flight leader, NG 3869, if he had
enough gas and if so, would he mind trying to identify an object in the
sky to the South of Godman Field. He replied in the affirmative...."

By this time reports of sightings were coming in from other communities
such as Irvington, Kentucky.

"One of the ships in the formation NG336 pilot Hendrichs, landed at
Standiford Field, the other 3 aircraft started to climb toward the
object."

According to the report filed by Capt. James F. Duesler,Jr., another
eyewitness of the object over Godman Field, Captain Mantell "reported
his position at 7,500 feet and climbing. Immediately following the
Flight Leader's transmission, another member of the Flight asked "Where
in the hell are we going?" In a few minutes the Flight Leader called out
an object "twelve o'clock high." Asked to describe this object, he said
that it was bright and that it was climbing away from him. When asked
about its speed, the Flight leader stated it was going about half his
speed, approximately 180 MPH."

Tech Sgt. Blackwell's statement quotes the flight member's (identified
as a wing man) question as," What the Hell are we looking for?" the
reports agree on Mantell's reply.

"At 22,000 feet pilot Hammond, NG 737, advised Clements, NG 800, that he
had no oxygen equipment. Both pilots then returned to Standiford Field;
pilot Mantell, NG 3869, continued climbing.

Tech Sgt Blackwell's statement quoted Mantell as saying, "I'm still
climbing, the object is above and ahead of me moving at about my speed
or faster. I'm trying to close in for a better look."

"Pilot Clements, NG800, refueled and went back up to 32,000 feet but did
not see either the strange object or the aircraft NG3869 again, and so
returned to Standiford Field."

Starting to sound like an alien abduction, doesn't it? Well that was not
to be Captain Mantell's fate that day.

"At 1750 Eastern Time, Standiford Field advised that NG3869, pilot
Mantell, crashed 5 miles SW of Franklin, Kentucky at approximately 1645
Central Time."

Godman then notified Maxwell Flight Service Center that Mantell's plane
had crashed. Maxwell Flight Service Center in turn made a long distance
telephone call to Franklin, Kentucky and spoke to police officer Joe
Walker. It was officer Walker that took charge at the scene of the
accident.

According to Captain Jehli's report, "Officer Walker stated that when he
arrived the pilot's body had been removed from the aircraft. Upon
questioning eye witnesses, Officer Walker learned that the aircraft had
exploded in the air before it hit the ground, but, that the aircraft did
not burn upon contact with the ground. The wreckage was scattered over
an area of about one mile, and at that time the tail section, one wing,
and the propeller had not been located."

There you have the basic facts and circumstances surrounding the death
of Captain Thomas Mantell, the first recorded casualty due to a UFO.

Most of the information in this article comes from declassified Air
Force Operation Blue Book reports. Operation Blue Book was established
in 1947 (under the name Project Sign) by the government to investigate
reports of unexplained phenomenon during those years of post-war nerves.

Blue Book officers were stationed at every Air Force base in the nation.
They were responsible for investigating all reported sightings of UFOs;
to determine whether UFOs pose any security threat to the United States;
and to determine if UFOs exhibit any advanced technology which the U.S.
could utilize. Blue Book headquarters was at Wright-Patterson Air Force
Base, but the bulk of the investigations was interpreted by field
officers. The results of this investigation led officials to determine
that most people see not extraterrestrial spacecraft, but bright stars,
balloons, satellites, comets, fireballs, conventional aircraft, moving
clouds, vapor trails, missiles, reflections, mirages, searchlights,
birds, kites, spurious radar indications, fireworks, or flares.

What was this large glowing object seen by hundreds of people "hovering
over Godman Field"? Was Captain Mantell "shot down" by an alien
spaceship? Were the citizens of Maysville, Irvington, Madisonville, and
Owensboro, Kentucky crazy for seeing the object. What about the sanity
of the Godman Field eyewitnesses? Captain Arthur T. Jehli, Shift
Supervisor at Godman; Col. Guy F. Hix, Commanding Officer; Captain Gary
W. Carter, Operations Officer at Godman; Captain James F. Duesler, Jr.;
Tech Sergeant Quinton A. Blackwell, chief operator in the Control Tower;
and PFC Stanley Oliver all gave statements as to the object they eye
witnessed that day. Were these airfield professionals duped?

The Courier Journal reported on January 9, 1948, "Chase for Flying Disk
Blamed In Crash Death". The newspaper reported Mantell was following
something described as a "star" by fellow flyers.

To add more questions to the puzzle, in addition to the sighting
involving Captain Mantell, the statement signed by Captain Jehli
included the following:

"So much for the accident - now hold on to your hat!"

"Godman Tower again contacted us to report that there was a large light
in the sky in the approximate position of the object seen earlier. Then
Lockborne Tower and Clinton County Tower advised a great ball of light
was traveling southwest across the sky....."

"Later we received a call from St. Louis Tower advising that a great
ball of light was passing directly over the field - Scott Tower also
verified this. We then received a call from Air Defense Command through
Olmstead Flight Service Center advising us to alert Coffeville, Kansas,
Ft Smith, Arkansas and Kansas City, Missouri, and they plotted the
object as moving WSW at 250 miles per hour."

You can see the description of the second object is radically different
than the object Captain Mantell was chasing.

The Blue Book investigators in their final report on the Godman Field
activities took information from four incidents reported on January 7,
1948 numbered 30, 33 (Godman Field); 32; 48; and considered them as one
investigation.

Based on their investigation, the Blue Book report states, "...all these
times and bearing agree closely with the time and place of the setting
of Venus.

" The stellar magnitude of Venus on January 7, was - 3.4 which makes it
30 times brighter than the bright star Arcturus."

Justification for this conclusion continued with three reasons: First,
Venus shining through clouds could very easily give the effect of a
flaming object with a tail. Second, the motion of clouds past the object
(Venus) could give the illusion of rapid movement. Finally, a third
though admittedly remote possibility, according to the report, is based
on a rarely-observed phenomenon, is that owing to thermo-inversions in
the atmosphere, stars near the horizon have been known to jump about
erratically through arcs of two or three times the moon's apparent
diameter. Venus, when very close to the horizon, has been known to
twinkle brilliantly with rapidly oranging colors."

Needless to say, the "official" government explanation that Captain
Mantell lost his life chasing Venus did not set well with locals or the
national interest this case caused. It was widely reported in many early
UFO books as an example of a government coverup.

The report of Captain Jehli stated "The Military Police at the scene of
the accident called back and advised Godman Field that someone in
Madisonville, Kentucky had observed, through a Finch telescope, an
object described as a cone shaped , 100 feet from top to bottom, 43 feet
across, and 4 miles high proceeding SW at 10 miles per hour."

You may remember PFC Stanley Oliver's description from the first article
in this series, that the object appeared to resemble "an ice cream cone
topped with red".

"St. Louis ATC advised of an article printed in the "Edward-sville
Intelligencer," Edwardsville, Illinois, describing an object, over the
town at 07200, of aluminum appearance without apparent wings or control
surfaces which was moving southwest."

Another report, apparently ignored by investigators was from Dr.
Seyfert, an astronomer at Vanderbilt University that had spotted an
object SSE of Nashville, Tennessee that he identified as " a pear shaped
balloon with cables and a basket attached, moving first South Southeast,
then West, at a speed of 10 miles per hour at 25,000 feet."

Does this sound like the planet Venus to you?

What the government did not acknowledge in their conclusions was that
there was such an object over Godman Field on January 7th that fit that
and the descriptions of other airfield professionals that witnessed that
days events.

Declassified at this time, we now know , almost fifty years later, about
a large balloon used for high altitude experimental flights and known as
"sky hooks." Sky Hook balloons fly at altitudes in excess of 60,000 feet
and reach diameters of approximately 100 feet.

During the period of this sighting at Godman Field, the Navy was
conducting a program utilizing "sky hook" balloons. The Navy program was
classified at that time.

It was subsequently determined that on the date of the Godman sighting a
balloon was released by the Navy from Clinton County airport in Ohio.
The release time of the balloon was related to a wind plot for 7 January
1948, and it revealed that the balloon would have been in the area of
Godman at the time of the sightings.

It is the (Air Technical Information Command) opinion that Captain
Mantell lost consciousness due to oxygen starvation, the aircraft being
trimmed continued to climb until increasing altitude caused a sufficient
loss of power for it to level out. The aircraft then began a turn to the
left due to torque and as the wing drooped so did the nose until the
aircraft was in a tight diving spiral. The uncontrolled descent resulted
in excessive speed causing the aircraft to disintegrate. It is believed
that Captain Mantell never regained consciousness. This is born out by
the fact that the canopy lock was still in place after the crash,
discounting any attempt to abandon the aircraft.

The object pursued by Captain Mantell is believed to have been the "sky
hook" balloon and this was probably the object seen by other eye
witnesses and described as pear shaped and metallic.

Numerous books are available at local public libraries on the UFO
Phenomenon and contain references to the Mantell Case. Modern books as a
rule do not mention it as much as older books because a satisfactory
explanation has been presented for the incident.

The Mantell Case was also presented on the syndicated television series,
"Sightings", which is currently aired on the SCI-FI Channel.

Though explained, the events almost fifty years ago at Godman Field on
Fort Knox still present an interesting and unique slant on the history
of our area. Captain Mantell's place in history is assured whenever the
subject of UFO's is discussed.

I don't understand you Exlax, someone presents info on bases on the moon and you say the government has better pictures of the same area. You accept info from this governemnt as fact. OOOooo you talk about being an idiot!!! LMAO at you!!! Now from the same government, declassified TOP SECRET UMBRA files, info is presented not UFOs...but identified! They used the term flying saucers! ...sounds identified to me..."the increase in flying saucer activity, which he explained as having a connection with the plan."
Please, instead of wasting that brain evolution gave you, use your head and research something before you make, or start to make some silly claim. You accept information from the government, until it disagrees with your stand on things, and then you call it disinformation.
You are entitled to believe whatever you like. You are not however, entitled to your own facts!! And the fact is the governemnt knows about UFOs, and has indeed identified some of them as flying saucers...evidenced right from the pages of the NSA! So based on your response I am sure you will continue to disbelieve every sound piece of evidence you hear.

Actually, had you read and comprehended the file, you would have noticed at no point did they identify the UFOs as the flying saucers. They were very distinct not to use UFO when they used flying saucer, which to me indicates they are talking about two different things. Otherwise one would imagine they would say UFOs (probably flying saucers) which they consistently did with the UFOs (probably balloons).

The only person here falling short of their evolutionary potential is you. I know you don't understand, that seems to be your nature, along with insults when you realize how foolish you look. Also wipe the foam from your mouth and please revise your first sentence there to make sense, English preferably. What in the hell does moon bases have to do with this thread? Where did I say the government has better pictures of the same area (by the way, lots of people have pictures of the moon, not just the government). Look, I know through your "I want to believe anything" rage its hard for you to comprehend what you are reading, do step back, take a deep breath and drink a glass of water and reread the information at hand (critically). If you must read it out loud to understand it, thats fine, no one has to be around to hear you sound out the words.

I read and comprehend quite well Exlax. It is you who fails to comprehend even the very basic of the english language and baser linguistic comprehension. By the way, If I had a nickle for every time you didn't understand something...
Well you did get one thing right Exlax, NSA did differentiate between UFOs and flying saucers. So, are the flying saucers ours or are they ET? I'll give you some time to think about that one; I know you'll need it....take your time exlax.

Hey wonder boy living in his mom's basement, in the NSA paper it does state the words "flying saucers". Since I am not an expert at comprehension and you are in need of "nickle"s why don't you go ahead and copy+paste where the NSA in that paper states the flying saucers are extraterrestrial. If you would be so kind.

See what I mean Exlax you failed to understand again, I said/asked "So, are the flying saucers ours or are they ET?" Where did I say the NSA said they were extraterrestrial? Thanks for the nickle again exlax...I'll be able to retire early if this keeps up. Smooth move exlax...LOL

You are trying to make the assumption they are extraterrestrials, we have all seen your posts and know you will believe anything. So I asked you if you wish to make an assumption based on the article whose they are can you please identify where that relevant information is in said article, oh master of the English language you.

Oh boy is it getting "hot in here" or what?? A couple of you might wanna' cool down a bit, or this interesting thread will get closed and I'd hate to see that. Although I find your war of words to each other a bit amusing, I don't think it follows the rules of this forum.

I do like Stellar's view and thought on all this.. (posted earlier in this thread) It certainly makes some sense..

Ok, now this is sort of OFF topic but in a way, it seems a bit in the line with the discussion here..

But CHECK out this very interesting video I ran across today... It has an excellent interview with Mr Dean, a retired US Soldier and other interesting things heard in this 7 minute video :

UFO's and Aliens Interview

This video and reading the NSA Documents just make me wonder all the more...

Well now exlax here's some more chocolate fer ya ta munch on, without seeming too bellicose that is...you simply don't understand...again, and you once again fail in the very basic of understanding. You did not ask for me to make an assumption based on the article, you said "why don't you go ahead and copy+paste where the NSA in that paper states the flying saucers are extraterrestrial." this is not asking me to make an assumption exlax, it's asking me to copy and paste something that is not there. Never once did I say Extraterrestrial....but you seem to be hung up on the ETs exlax. It is enlightening to know that the U.S. government finally acknowleges the existance of the flying saucers, be they ET or ours...I still would like to know what plan they were talking about as it relates to these said "Flying Saucers"

The contents of that video will impress only the inexperienced. Robert O. Dean, Command Sergeant Major (ret.) is on the same level as Stanton Friedman, Nuklear Physicist. They both excel at b.s although Dean is easier on the eyes and his voice is not as aggravating as Friedman's. But b.s. is b.s. Dean has the nerve to say that he has befriended aliens! And that there are 4 groups interacting us with, their little brothers. He has been spewing this same b.s. since his days at UFOAZ back in the '90s. And, of course, William Moore is mentioned as someone who can be trusted. Yap, yap, yap.

You'll have to forgive me, I often forget I should not use complex wordage when talking to someone who's brain may have fallen from their nostril. Here how about I ask you simply "Please point me to the spot in the article where I can make an assumption about who the flying saucers belong too."

Simple enough?

The document might tell you Exlax if it wasn't 90% blacked out, but are you Too Stupid to figure it out that you need to ask me?

In case you didn't notice, there are more UFO files on the site

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/

Camlax and outlooker enough please, either discuss this in a civil manner between you or don't post; exchanging personal attacks and bickering doesn't constitute a constructive discussion.

I suggest taking a break from this thread until you're ready to contribute without resorting to insults.

Point taken Stellar. It is noted in this document that the NSA has made public, that there is a difference between UFOs, Balloons and Flying Saucers. Some instances the NSA refers to balloons and UFOs in the same sentence, meaning they identified the balloons, but there was something else there they could not identify flying near or with the balloons. And I think the fact that they seemed to go out of their way to make mention of Flying Saucers as being part of some plan is indicative of something much more interesting. We do not, nor does any other country have flying saucers in their arsenals...No one. So the mention of Flying Saucers in this document, and these being part of some plan leaves me to wonder #(1) - we have Flying Saucers and the NSA et al have covered it up, #(2) it is all a ruse and disinformation. Conclusion: I have to consider also the many sightings and pictures taken of Flying Saucers that increased exponentially since the 1960s and increased over the decades. I have perused over many documents like this one and have come to the conclusion that there has indeed been a cover-up that started in 1940s and continues still to this day. But how long can they keep it up. I think there has been and is a conditioning of the masses going on right now, through the media, which seems to be geared at conditioning us for disclosure alien life forms that are not of this planet. Friend or Foe is the question I would ask? If I were in the position of the US, I don't think I would be taking this lightly at all; I would be doing everything I could to secure my airspace making these alien beings accountable for their actions. I agree with what Reagan said before the UN. This president alluded to something that was obviously a concern to him. ...Yes, we are being conditioned for disclosure...and maybe something a lot worse. Friend or Foe?



Former President Reagan on the "Alien Threat?
by Robert Collins
Copyrighted © 2000

January 6, 2000

For most of the readers then President Reagan's comments on "aliens" and a possible "alien threat" made between the years 1982 to 1988 perhaps sounds quite familiar. But, to others it's quite unfamiliar or "alien" to say the least: So, for those who are unfamiliar with ex President Reagan's statements I'll shall repeat them here followed by further information of my own:

June 1982:

Following a private White House screening of Spielberg's film "E.T", the President quietly commented to Mr. Spielberg. "You know, there aren't six people in this room who know just how true that really is." Unfortunately, a press of people coming forward to congratulate him prevented Spielberg from pursuing the point further. Spielberg reportedly told this to Jamie Shandera shortly after it happened.

December 4th, 1985:

While addressing a group of high school students in Fallston Maryland..." I couldn't help but say to Gorbachev, just think how easy his task and mine might be...if suddenly there was a threat to this world from some other species from another planet outside in the universe. We'd forget all the little local differences ....between our countries....and find out once and for all that we really are all human."

September 21st, 1987:

Before the United Nations General Assembly: " In our obsession with antagonisms of the moment," said Reagan, "we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And yet, I ask you," he went on, "is not an alien threat already among us ? What could be more alien to universal aspirations of our peoples than war and the threat of war?"

May 5th, 1988:

As President Reagan leaves the White House on the way to Chicago. Talking about the importance of frankness; for a desire for peaceful solutions and wars he goes on to say..."But, I've often wondered what if all of us in the world discovered that we were threatened by an outer--a power from another planet." Reagan said. "Wouldn't we all of a sudden find that we didn't have any differences between us at all, we were all human beings, citizens of the world and wouldn't we come together to fight that particular threat?" The president said.

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Classified (TS/SCI) Government "Alien Abduction Study" initiated in 1986 at the request of President Reagan?

I have talked at length with one of the ex government people who said he was extensively involved in this "Abduction Study" reportedly requested by President Reagan. At the time he supported this study he worked for AFOSI/PJ or the "Air Force Office of Special Investigations PJ office or "The Pajama Gang" as we call them. This is the same office that harassed the Civil Engineering (CE) person at Wright Patterson AFB in Ohio and the same office which is responsible for dispensing disinformation on UFOs.

He said that "they" the government did everything it could to see if these "Abductions" were really occurring: They set up video cameras in the suspected "Abductees" bedrooms, they extracted suspected implants and had them analyzed and they did extensive interviews. The government scientists said that all the suspected implants they had analyzed were grown by the body as far as they could tell: That the interviews with the suspected "Abductees" indicated they were fabricating their stories and that at no time did eight hours of constant video taping of suspected "Abductees” bedrooms show anything.

Now however, I've had other discussions with another government contact and he said after we talked about the conclusions of the government study: " I wouldn't be so sure about that." Even Reagan proceeded to continue to talk about an "Alien Threat" two years after this study was reportedly initiated.......

Hint ? those "Black Helicopters" roaming around the cattle mutilation and abduction sites aren't there for nothing ?

My 1993 conclusions reached in the "New Paris" Ohio case seem to agree with what then President Reagan was alluding to and a recent 1998 book by Dave Jacobs "The Threat," "The Secret Agenda: What The Aliens Want...And How they Plan To Get It" seems to totally agree as well....I would highly recommend Jacobs' book to anyone.

Please see New Paris OH case at: New Paris OH Case 1989 to 1993
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/et063.html

end note: I know this may upset some people that want to believe these aliens are benevolent, but I think it is prudent that our governments take the necessary precautions to safeguard our skies , our homes, and our countries from any alien or off world threat. They (EBEs) must stop invading our airspace and respect our form of government and enter into peaceful co-existence that will serve for the betterment of our societies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpXmOfjnN4

id like to know Exactly why you think its b.s.
what about it? the fact that you woulndt want to beleive something like that? or you really dont like this man? or why exactly.

They gave a sergeant major clearance to mix with aliens, when they wouldn't even (allegedly) give President Carter high enough clearance to let him in on all the info? Poor old Jim.