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karl 12
Refreshing TV News interview in which (very brave) Middle Eastern lady gives her candid opinion on muslims and bigotry:

Fast foward this video to 02:59

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=83...h&plindex=0
karl 12
Anyone watched it -its quite enlightening!
northwest
I see this as the same kind of propaganda as religious propaganda, only with different content
eqgumby
I get the impression she is an Atheist, or maybe a Deist, though I don't think it was clear. Very interesting take on things from a middle-eastern person though. I particularly like the line, "You can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me." Well said. thumbsup.gif
karl 12
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Sep 11 2007, 08:44 PM) *
I get the impression she is an Atheist, or maybe a Deist, though I don't think it was clear. Very interesting take on things from a middle-eastern person though. I particularly like the line, "You can believe in stones, as long as you don't throw them at me." Well said. thumbsup.gif


Yes I like that quote too, I don't know if shes an atheist/deist but she does make some excellent points.
Perhaps,if shes not under a fatwah already,she should be placed in charge of Middle Eastern affairs dealing with religious bigotry,intolerance,prejudice,sexism etc..
I think she'd bring some sorely needed (and non hysterical) balance and clarity to these issues and maybe inspire more of her countrymen and women to actualy speak their mind and think for themselves (instead of mindlessly acquiessing to groupthink).
Cheers Karl original.gif
Repoman
QUOTE(karl 12 @ Sep 21 2007, 12:04 AM) *
I think she'd bring some sorely needed (and non hysterical) balance and clarity to these issues and maybe inspire more of her countrymen and women to actualy speak their mind and think for themselves (instead of mindlessly acquiessing to groupthink).

I agree, christians in the USA really need to start thinking for themselves and quit trying to warp their world-view to mesh with what the bible says.

TRUE THAT!
REPO MAN!
Azmr
Your link has been removed so i couldnt watch it. Im assuming its Wafa Sultan, the Muslim R.A.H. (Reformer, Apostate, or Heretic). heres another link to the video that made fame.

http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null

Evidently, Wafa Sultan distorts the facts in order to fit a politically motivated inaccurate view of Islam. The world is full of good Muslims who understand Islam as a religion of peace, and it is a minority of Muslims, like the members of Al-Qaeda, that have misinterpreted the Qur’an. I am therefore not surprised that in response to Wafa Sultan’s distortion of these facts, clerics throughout the Muslim world have condemned her, and her telephone answering machine has filled with dark threats causing her to go into hiding. Her beliefs are summed up in a recent interview where she has been billed as expressing a “new-found affection for the Jewish people and hope for the future”, and claims to be a “saviour”. Akeel Shah best sums up Wafa Sultan by saying,

“I’m sure we’ll be hearing more about Wafa in the near future. She’s certainly endeared herself to the anti-Islamist right (and much of the left for that matter) in the West. That will likely secure her healthy book sales, at least in the English language market.”

http://akeelshah.blogspot.com/2006/03/muslim-rah-profile-1-wafa-sultan.html
http://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/wafa_sultan.htm
http://opinionated.blogsome.com/2006/03/15/wafa-sultan-2/

Next time try to refrain yourself from embarrasing ill-informed, mis-guided, mis-information garbage, bro. Wafa Sultan, Ali Sina and a handful of others, all have been counter debated to a stand-still and even death, proven to be liars, which never seems to suprise me. I guess its easy to talk blasphemy to a camera that doesnt talk back or to challenge an old man whos had hes days. Have you ever wondered why there are no new Islam Vs Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism talks, why no Christians or Jews ever want to debate Dr Zakir Naik? Search Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat and Bilal Philips on Youtube or download from the link below. By the way, im not Muslim but pro.

http://www.islam-h.net/Video.html

Peace buddy.


Devol
QUOTE(Azmr @ Sep 29 2007, 05:47 AM) *
Peace buddy.

I'm just going to point out the irony here. *looks at Azmr's avatar* Peace? Sure, it's not!
karl 12
Azmr, what a crock-you've not even seen the video and already you start ranting about blasphemy,heretics,death etc..
For the record she should be able to say what she wants about islam,bigotry,intolerance and sexism without fear of being killed by brainwashed,indoctrinated,conditioned fanatics.
As for your point about some muslims wanting peace,I agree -although it puts it into perspective when the Times newspaper reports the hardline takeover of over HALF of British mosques by these religious extemeist lunatics.
(By the way none of your links work).
Azmr
QUOTE(karl 12 @ Sep 30 2007, 01:38 AM) *
Azmr, what a crock-you've not even seen the video and already you start ranting about blasphemy,heretics,death etc..
For the record she should be able to say what she wants about islam,bigotry,intolerance and sexism without fear of being killed by brainwashed,indoctrinated,conditioned fanatics.
As for your point about some muslims wanting peace,I agree -although it puts it into perspective when the Times newspaper reports the hardline takeover of over HALF of British mosques by these religious extemeist lunatics.
(By the way none of your links work).



LOL, Im not judging her because of this little video clip, buddy, as this clip is merely just a cry for help, which proved to be of great success for the attention wh0re. Watch all her videos, read the Islamic holy books, learn the Muslim history, then try to hurt my feelings .... otherwise dont talk directly to me.

The links work, copy and paste in your address toolbar. angry.gif

Peace.
karl 12
[quote name='Azmr' date='Sep 30 2007, 01:37 AM' post='1911572']
>LOL, Im not judging her because of this little video clip, buddy,

You mean the clip you've never even seen?


>as this clip is merely just a cry for help, which proved to be of great success for the attention wh0re.

She must have touched a nerve with you because you've resorted to calling her names.


> Watch all her videos,

I'd like to,I think she makes some valid points.


>Read the Islamic holy books, learn the Muslim history,

Ive read various books,its only your 'opinion' that certain ones are holy.


Peace.

Cheers
Azmr
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She must have touched a nerve with you because you've resorted to calling her names.


Nope, she was the one who almost broke out in tears. For me, im not Muslim, but i support their every cause which might give you the impression that i am one. Im not even religious one bit, but i can read, something you need to exercise.

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I'd like to,I think she makes some valid points.


You mean her points are biased and one way, as i said, this clip is nothing.

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Ive read various books,its only your 'opinion' that certain ones are holy.


You've read nothing, you cant read. grin2.gif

Peace buddy.
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QUOTE(Azmr @ Oct 1 2007, 10:58 PM) *
i can read, something you need to exercise.
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QUOTE(Azmr @ Oct 1 2007, 10:58 PM) *
You've read nothing, you cant read. grin2.gif
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