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dcman
Okay this one is kind of hoakey but interesting...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2194.html?theme=light
spikeman25
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 07:55 PM) *
Okay this one is kind of hoakey but interesting...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page2194.html?theme=light
It would be kind of hard to fake that but still possible. It's interesting though.
dcman
QUOTE(spikeman25 @ Sep 7 2007, 08:01 PM) *
It would be kind of hard to fake that but still possible. It's interesting though.


This one is an interesting story of the Grays...sounds too far fetched for me though:
http://openmindsforum.com/index.php?option...20&Itemid=2
Bill Hill

As we say in the Ghetto "N*gga please! is yo for real?"
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(spikeman25 @ Sep 7 2007, 03:01 PM) *
It would be kind of hard to fake that but still possible. It's interesting though.

It wouldn't be hard to fake at all. Come on.
♥BeautifulDisaster♥
QUOTE(billyhill @ Sep 7 2007, 01:23 PM) *
As we say in the Ghetto "N*gga please! is yo for real?"


I'm gonna have to agree with this. Let's say aliens were controlling Bush. Why the **** would they let themselves be seen?! Aren't they supposed to be smarter than us? huh.gif
spikeman25
QUOTE(DarlingNikki @ Sep 7 2007, 08:32 PM) *
I'm gonna have to agree with this. Let's say aliens were controlling Bush. Why the **** would they let themselves be seen?! Aren't they supposed to be smarter than us? huh.gif
Yes. Especially smarter than bush.
dcman
QUOTE(spikeman25 @ Sep 7 2007, 08:01 PM) *
It would be kind of hard to fake that but still possible. It's interesting though.

The alien face behind George Bush looks remarkably like the crop circle alien seen here:
http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/alienface.html
dcman
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 08:38 PM) *
The alien face behind George Bush looks remarkably like the crop circle alien seen here:
http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/alienface.html

hmmmm...this is all we need, an alien on an ego trip...lol An alien does a self portrait in a farmers field, and then shows up for a photo op with the President...lol
Alex01
Maybe even the aliens want fame.
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE(DarlingNikki @ Sep 7 2007, 08:32 PM) *
I'm gonna have to agree with this. Let's say aliens were controlling Bush. Why the **** would they let themselves be seen?! Aren't they supposed to be smarter than us? huh.gif


yes. with technology
Cherus
maybe it was shopped in?
dcman
QUOTE(Cherus @ Sep 7 2007, 08:56 PM) *
maybe it was shopped in?

One way to find out would be to get a copy of the CNN or FOX news video of the speech, and check for ourselves.
bball
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 7 2007, 03:24 PM) *
It wouldn't be hard to fake at all. Come on.

Well this supposedly happened on live tv on two channels, so that aspect of it makes it hard to fake if that is actually how the event took place.

Edit-I will try to find the video.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(bball @ Sep 7 2007, 04:00 PM) *
Well this supposedly happened on live tv on two channels, so that aspect of it makes it hard to fake if that is actually how the event took place.

Edit-I will try to find the video.

Well I suppsedly saw santa as a kid. Show me the uncut video straight from the news organization that shot it. Not some crackpot site.
Alex01
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 7 2007, 11:01 PM) *
Well I suppsedly saw santa as a kid. Show me the uncut video straight from the news organization that shot it. Not some crackpot site.


LOL same request here. laugh.gif
dcman
QUOTE(bball @ Sep 7 2007, 09:00 PM) *
Well this supposedly happened on live tv on two channels, so that aspect of it makes it hard to fake if that is actually how the event took place.

Edit-I will try to find the video.


The video: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...831-5.wm.v.html

The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 04:04 PM) *

Can you give me the time stamp of when it supposedly shows up? I can't sit through 10 mins. I don't have sound at work.
Thanks.
camlax
call me crazy I think it looks like a vase or pot.
bball
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 7 2007, 04:06 PM) *
Can you give me the time stamp of when it supposedly shows up? I can't sit through 10 mins. I don't have sound at work.
Thanks.

Here is the portion of video we care about.window alien
bball
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 7 2007, 04:01 PM) *
Well I suppsedly saw santa as a kid. Show me the uncut video straight from the news organization that shot it. Not some crackpot site.

Sorry for pointing out the flaws in your logic. Will try not to do it again. wink2.gif Whatever it is, vase or whatever it may be, it is there.
dcman
QUOTE(bball @ Sep 7 2007, 09:17 PM) *
Here is the portion of video we care about.window alien


Same speech different source:

http://pbs-newshour.onstreammedia.com/cgi-...oID=pbsnh083107
chaoszerg
It's a reflection in the glass nothing more.
dcman
QUOTE(camlax @ Sep 7 2007, 09:15 PM) *
call me crazy I think it looks like a vase or pot.


The image moves.
dcman
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Sep 7 2007, 09:22 PM) *
It's a reflection in the glass nothing more.

reflection of something would be my guess, but what?
Alex01
I saw many reflections on the doorglass throughout the vid, could have just been a reflection, within many other I witnessed.

EDIT: Ooops didn't refresh the page after seeing the vid, I just saw now that somebody already commented on it being a reflection.
Alex01
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 11:27 PM) *
reflection of something would be my guess, but what?


Well considering this was in an open enviroment it could be of many things, the windows are dark so they reflect things on the outside not on the inside of the white house.
chaoszerg
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 10:27 PM) *
reflection of something would be my guess, but what?



Im not sure what it is but it is not a alien. If you look carefully as it moves it slightly warps out of shape just slightly.
dcman
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Sep 7 2007, 09:34 PM) *
Im not sure what it is but it is not a alien. If you look carefully as it moves it slightly warps out of shape just slightly.


Well if it is an Alien, now we know WHO is really running the Whitehouse...LOL alien.gif
dcman
QUOTE(Alex01 @ Sep 7 2007, 09:32 PM) *
Well considering this was in an open enviroment it could be of many things, the windows are dark so they reflect things on the outside not on the inside of the white house.


I still say it looks like the crop circle alien...lol, especially in the blow ups of the stills on Coast to Coast.
bball
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 04:40 PM) *
I still say it looks like the crop circle alien...lol, especially in the blow ups of the stills on Coast to Coast.

That crop circle alien is INSANE! How did whoever made that, do it? Very well done.
dcman
QUOTE(bball @ Sep 7 2007, 09:41 PM) *
That crop circle alien is INSANE! How did whoever made that, do it? Very well done.


I don't know how those intricate crop circles are made either, and no one ever gets caught. Apparently there was a message on the disk that appeared with the alien crop circle.
Cinders
QUOTE(chaoszerg @ Sep 7 2007, 02:22 PM) *
It's a reflection in the glass nothing more.


Hmmm maybe the reflection shows what the back of BUSH really looks like!
And if that's true, then we can at least rule out Bush being a vampire (since you can't see a vampires reflection!) w00t.gif
Wolfen420
Light source is hitting the alien on the left side of his head (well his right side, left staring at him) is off. Its coming from below and left it looks like while Bushes shadow is actually a bit more like natural lighting. I mean the alien might as well be holding a flash light to his face in that picture haha. Also the outline is FAR to sharp to be from "behind" the window there.

Just my instant reaction to it.
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE(dcman @ Sep 7 2007, 09:45 PM) *
I don't know how those intricate crop circles are made either, and no one ever gets caught. Apparently there was a message on the disk that appeared with the alien crop circle.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_reply you mean this?

It looks like a reflection to me, if it was an alien, why don't we see it's legs in the window pane beneath the one we see it in?
Leonardo
QUOTE(Wolfen420 @ Sep 8 2007, 04:16 AM) *
Light source is hitting the alien on the left side of his head (well his right side, left staring at him) is off. Its coming from below and left it looks like while Bushes shadow is actually a bit more like natural lighting. I mean the alien might as well be holding a flash light to his face in that picture haha. Also the outline is FAR to sharp to be from "behind" the window there.

Just my instant reaction to it.


Agree, also the 'reflection' appears to be of a 'grey alien' standing very close to the door (they are reputed to be smallish are they not?) in which case it would be behind Bush (closer to the door) and probably at least partially visible. If it is behind Bush then why is it also apparently facing the door?

Given the very bright nature of the reflection one would have to ask why nothing else is being reflected in the same pane?

My thought is that it could possibly the reflection of something that is distorted and happens to resemble the commonly held 'grey alien' appearance, or it is a deliberately distorted image of a 'grey alien' shopped into the photo.
Dowdy
maybe Bush is also an alien. It would explain why he has such a hard time with the english language
747400
That face is scary. Those stary eyes... that blank expression.. you do wonder, is there intelligence there somewhere?

Oh yes, i noticed an alien too, in the background there.


ho.
bball
QUOTE(747400 @ Sep 8 2007, 03:44 AM) *
That face is scary. Those stary eyes... that blank expression.. you do wonder, is there intelligence there somewhere?

Oh yes, i noticed an alien too, in the background there.
ho.

laugh.gif Good one! thumbsup.gif The more you read it the more it makes you laugh. Bush just makes such a great punchline.
promKing
Maybe thats George Bush Senior but whiteout his human mask!!
REBEL
Why would extraterrestrial 'intelligent beings' want to be standing behind Georgie for in the first place...
Blueguardian
people please im all for the existance of aliens but for one thing the cameraman probably would have notieced, second we have seen much better photoshopping and thrid if i turn out to be wrong dont hate me tongue.gif
Miracle Alien Girl
QUOTE(DarlingNikki @ Sep 7 2007, 12:32 PM) *
I'm gonna have to agree with this. Let's say aliens were controlling Bush. Why the **** would they let themselves be seen?! Aren't they supposed to be smarter than us? huh.gif


Maybe some of the aliens are bad. That's why their controlling bush. Because they want to take over the world. Our world. You know an alien can be smart and bad at the sametime. An alien also can be good and smart at the sametime. It just depends on what type of alien the alien wants to be. Whether he wants to be good or bad. In my opinion being bad is stupid. And being good is smart. But that's only because I'm a good person.
zitro1987
Wow that's creepy! (the 20 sec video)
phantom sheena
osama bin laden hideout and disguise?

I thought the alien moved when Bush moved his shoulder where the alien is looking out from.
Wolfen420
QUOTE(zitro1987 @ Sep 8 2007, 09:07 AM) *
Wow that's creepy! (the 20 sec video)


What video? I see pictures only hehe.

And guys, scan lines are SO easy to do in Photoshop. Most photoshop tutorual sites show you how. http://www.phong.com/tutorials/scan/

Who ever did that image just sucks at blending in other images. I dont even think that thing is a reflection, just horrible photoshopping.
GreyWeather
QUOTE(bball @ Sep 7 2007, 10:17 PM) *
Here is the portion of video we care about.window alien


It's a fake.

The link to this video here (<< linky) at 03.39 minutes, the time that the 'ET' was in the window of your link, is not present at all. Surprise...

It's edited in. Plain an simple. Besides, what kind of ET would float and be absolutely still (As you may have noticed it isn't touching the floor).

Click to view attachment

...In under a minute (as you can tell laugh.gif ). It isn't difficult to photoshop anything into a photo or frame.
Miracle Alien Girl
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Wookietim
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 7 2007, 04:24 PM) *
It wouldn't be hard to fake at all. Come on.


Yeah - all the person would have to do is get a picture of the pres and photoshop the alien in behind him. I have no artistic talent and I could do it...
Wookietim
QUOTE(McKenna @ Sep 8 2007, 11:49 AM) *
I just thought of something. That I think is a possiblelity. Have you ever thought that just because the photo is fake. Doesn't mean that there might be a message behind it. Who knows maybe somebody out there knows something and their way of getting a message across could have been to make this fake photo. They probably wanted to get a message across without it being obvious to the whole world. Especially, the government because if the government knew about what they were trying to do. They would most defineatly be dead.


That really doesn't make any sense.... There are three possibilities :

1. The photo is real
2. The photo is fake
3. The photo is fake but the message is real.

In the first case, then the government (In your theory) would silence the person, so the photo would not have been released (In your theory. Personally, I don't think the govt is powerful enough to do that).

In the second case, The photo is fake and should be ignored.

In the third case, the photo is fake, but it is exposing the author as someone who knows info - therefore he would be silenced.

Therefore, the only case where this photo, in your theory, would be published is if it was fake. Therefore, the photo is a fake.
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