Have you ever noticed a shadow-like figure race across the room - seen only out of the corner of your eye, but gone when you turn your full vision in that direction? and at the same time you feel like there is no hope left and that you will die if you are in the same room as "it". but when you are about to die it runs acroos the room and disappear through a wall or door?

Corner of the eye phenomenon is quite common, it occurs when changes in light that effects the front of the eye and doesn't irradiate the rest of the room. Usually a light source that has a specific area of radiation (i.e. TV's, computer screens, phones) will often produce this effect at night when the rest of the room is darker than the point of light.

Therefore you are left with what looks like movement when light irradiates the darkened surroundings only for a few brief seconds.

However if someone is seeing things run in front of them! thats a different story.

But for everyone reading, if you are seeing things in the corner of your eye late at night when you are on the PC or watching TV...fret not.

Yes, I have seen this type of thing before. As Syntax has said, this is actually very common. I believe that Syntax's explanation is correct for the majority of these 'sightings' but it doesnt explain all of them.

One of my sisters has seen this sort of thing in her home quite a lot - and always in the same place - the foot of the staircase.

Corner-of-the-eye is very questionable. Tired eyes, distraction and the physical structure of the eye all make corner-of-the-eye sightings unreliable. Seen many things from the corner of my eye. Few have panned out to be anything. Mostly tired eyes.

The answer is yes, and they are really there, and you are not hallucinating.

shadowpeople can be there but most of the times it is a "trick' of the eye. cause our vision is limited, we can't see clear in the corner of our eye due to the lightfall in the lens that is what causing the image. it really becomes a problem when you look direct at them and they won't dissappear..grinn
greetings

i have seen them just not out of the corner of my eye, i saw this figure in front of me and it raced at me with red eyes.
i know alot of people will say it's a joke. it's not, it happen twice on the same road. what was wierd is that it was a busy road not really their style from what i have heard .

I believe most of the time the corner of the eye phenomena is usually the correct explaination, however there are times where it's not always the case.

Does anybody else see 'white' shadow people, as opposed to the dark shadows that run around? Mine are never black but always a shimmery white.

i have seen someone that looks human in every ways shape and form with the exception of there eyes. (they where glowing red ) these people i speak of where walking down a busy street wearing all black perfectly normal clothes nothing abnormal at all and then once they saw me they rushed at a sped i cant even explain can some explain that to me please

hi...what are you guys talking about? ....B










halfhandshuffle:Lamb of God-as the palaces burn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op5YQXyvQP0

For as long as I can remember, I have witnessed something similar to this phenomenon (never distinct shapes, but a definite movement of some invisible object). Wherever I have lived, I usually tend to notice it more when I'm lying comfortably on the sofa, suddenly I'll see a distinct movement (much like that of a spider scurrying aross the carpet towards me), but wherever the motion stops, there is never anything there? The times I have witnessed this, have not been out the corner of my eye, but directly in my line of vision..........I have always dismissed it, but it's interesting to see I may not be alone in seeing something like this.

OMG ((((((((((((((((Barek)))))))))))))))))))) Welcome back Sweetie...You were missed...yaaahhh..

Aw shucks..thanks hun ...I thought nobody cared .... (she'll be sick of me by friday )....b







halfhandshuffle:Ramones-Pinhead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3pSfKHlGLo

Talking of ghostly apparitions........ loitering on the edge of your field of vision...................................Hey Barek, nice to see you back bro!

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy to see you back. I might get sick of you, but in that case I will tell you so LOL..

Hi Arcana, I think of "shadow people" as deceased ones who just sort of walk around and go about their daily routine. Simply because they are black or dark, doesnt make them bad, because most "ghosts" show themselves in shadow form. I dont think they are out to bother anyone or mess with us, as I dont think they realize they are dead and just do their thing. Thats my opinion anyway. JN-

so if they are not bad then why did i have two rush me on a busy street if they were not shadow people then what the heck were they some one tell me please

Sorry Hun, I meant BAD as evil. But I truly believe what we are in life, we are in death. If humans are mean, cruel, angry, abusive etc then unless they resolve their issues before death, they remain the same in death, as they have the same soul, just not a "full" body..JN-

thats better lol so anyone seen one with red eyes

The red eyed ones should be ignored or told to go away, they aren't worth getting curious about...

I have been putting some thought in to the sleep paralysis/ shadow entity phenomena,
are they aliens?... are they ghosts?... spirits?... angels?... demons?... inter dimensional beings?...this is a question that has sparked numerous debates here at this site alone during my short tenure here as the incorrigible, but lovable Barek...
... are these visitors extracting or implanting this or that from us in a sleep disorder mimicking state they induce upon us with symptoms that so closely mirror real sleep related maladies as to further convolute the testimony of the witness? what about all the religious allegory that could be attributed to these beings...are these cloaked stalkers really the "souls trapped in purgatory" sent to eat out sins as retribution for their earthly transgressions?"...or are these aliens that home in on PSI enabled individuals and come to make occasional neuro-changes our brain chemistry to further mutate some of us into hybrids for whatever reason?... I'm still not completely sure, but the medical explanations are becoming more laughable as the cases multiply on a weekly basis , pop culture influenced mass hysteria?.. we now get reports originating from India and other unlikely locations, is the "hatman" a simple case of mass hysteria or a mass hallucination perpetuated by the suggestion of "pop culture" ?... a tiresome debate indeed....
NOW, I will concede that I found a recent article on the subject intriguing (to be fair) proposed: sleep paralysis may be our way of instinctually "playing dead" the way some animals behave when attacked by predators..if the predator thinks the prey is dead or incapacitated it will often release the prey momentarily to inspect it, thus giving the victim another opportunity for escape...he further speculated that dreams may trigger this instinctual response (play dead-sleep paralysis) of course AGAIN! why are we troubled by the identical hallucinations many of of report? ...B

Sincerely,
Barek Halfhand TSB

I would give some creedance to Syntacs original response. I know I often look up from the lap top under full flourescent lighting, and think there is someone leaning over my left shoulder. It is most peculiar, as it is always my LEFT. However, it should be emphasized, that Native Americans have often used peripheral vision when locating small movements. An old indian trick is to not look directly at the area you are scanning. Corner of the eye sight is much better for locating moving objects.

As for the thing in the dark, I know what you are talking about. We've all seen it as children. It's that shape the begins to form the longer you peer at it. You only notice it in the first place, because somehow, it is darker than the normal dark in the room. It's a deeper dark. Although I can't attest to ever seeing one in movement, I did awaken once to it standing at the foot of my bed. Like I said, I was just a child then.

Onside for sleep paralysis being biologically explained, look into narcolespy... youtube the useful medium it has become on pratically anything! has some examples, some examples of animals with it as well of both SP and narcolepsy/cataplexy episodes...

But don't get me wrong, I'm not saying for a moment that people who suffer with SP have narcolepsy or should worry about it, people can have SP on its own right. It's just that SP or 'cataplexy' is one of the major symptoms in people/animals with narcolepsy, and it's that which scientific study has come from....

Could you give us more info on the article? That sounds really interesting, Barek, and more intriguing to me that just being momentarily paralyzed.

Yep. I hate to admit this but straight full on (no corner of the eye thing) and full figure. Whatever. I don't care. Call me crazy. I know who it/they are. No big deal.


Edited to add: My whole family has...lmao.

I'm afraid I neglected to bookmark that one hun.....B





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A reported shadow being (photos courtesy of RHGHS with permission)



Close up:

OMG NO, I would probably go into cardiac arrest if I did..Did you? EWWW-

EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, now that is scary. Did the older woman see it?

We were told no. Afterall, she isn't looking in that direction (it appears to be behind her).

But that is the exact same spot where one of our members saw a shadow go right past him as he was setting up a camera to look down that hallway!

Thanks for your respose to my experience JN.

TBH...........what I have described does not fit into the usual description of this phenomena, but has certain similarities & I wondered whether anyone else had experienced anything similar? It does not bother me, but I'm curious to find out what may be causing it?

JackalnChainz also makes a valid point about "An old indian trick is to not look directly at the area you are scanning. Corner of the eye sight is much better for locating moving objects.". This technique is also used when scrying, where your peripheral vision can provide insight into other realms. If someone is sensitive & may not even be aware of it, it may be possible that they are doing this subconsciously, without even realising it?

As far as the usual description of shadow people/ghosts goes, many things can occur just outside our field of vision, that may offer rational explanations of this in some cases i.e. light reflections, car headlights, tv sets, an insect flying past a lamp casting a shadow etc etc. I agree with your thoughts on there being nothing to worry about due to "most "ghosts" show themselves in shadow form, as I have heard of many accounts that attest to this & often these spirits may be loved ones dropping in to watch over us, trying to remain out of our view, to avoid scaring us.

Malevolant energies to my experience, are usually accompaied by things like sudden headaches, general feeling of unease, foul smells & sudden feelings of nausea etc.

All that said, seeing some dark & sinister looking shadow at the bottom of your bed is not something I would dismiss out of hand, although we've all heard these stories before at some point & they have become engrained into our psyche, much like urban legends & myths. Variations of darkness in a room at night can make certain areas appear darker & if there is a particular area that seems darker i.e. a corner, near a wardrobe, under the bed, by the foot of the bed, it is possible to get carried away with imagination. Only those who have experienced this for themelves, can ultimately say how real the experience was, or seemed to them & whether or not it had a possible rational explanation...................................I wish everyone sweet & peaceful dreams.

I have seen way too many things out of my peripheral vision, and some things head on. I found that Demonic entities ar ethe ones who create foul odors, vomiting, and a headache as if someone beat me on the back of the head with a hammer. They also create visual and auditory illusions, to the point of insanity and it scares one nearly to death. As far as shadow people, they are simply spirits in my opinion they dont realize they are dead, so with that said, they go about their daily routine, not caring who sees them, or possibly they dont know. I have actually seen alot but never a shadow person, at least straight on and I kinda dont want to LOL..Pleasant dreams to you..JN-

I don't tend to view dark shadow people as benevolent. In fact, I tend to equate dark cloud roiling and churning forms as evil, and very possibly demonic. I am most certain that dear old aunt Peg is not going to manifest this way. I think that black shadowy figures are indeed something to be concerned about. Yes indeed. I do appreciate your optimism. Although our opinions differ somewhat, I think you will agree, we don't actually know for sure in any case...so caution is always the best option. ~Jackal

Hi Jackal, I can only comment from my own experience here, but malevolent energies grow stronger & become more empowered by feeding off the negative energies we feed them. If a dark shadowy shape glimpsed briefly out the corner of the eye was truly malevolent, surely it follows that it would have a far stronger effect to remain in full view for maximum fear, to feed off that energy?

I totally agree with your comment about it being wise to exercise caution when dealing with most things paranormal, I feel it is not so much a case of our opinions differing, more our experiences thus far.

yes actually i saw two on my way home from work on two difrent days so it could have been the same one but i dont think so

but what was it i told it to go away the secound time i saw it but the first it was weird it acted like it bounced off somthing when it came at me anyone got somthin to say about ( im sorry but this as been on my mind for almost two years now and i just want answer to what it was)thank youso who are they i really want to know i hate that this thing cought me off guard what ever i came across i have a feeling it ment to do harm and i know that im right on that one you just get that feeling that cant be defined you know

Gypsygirl-

You want to know who the ones I've seen are? Well I'll tell you, I live in the house that both of my grandparents died in...I sleep in that same bedroom they both passed in; years apart from one another.

Plus, I have numerous relatives who have died. When my Grandparents were alive EVERYONE in the family would meet here in this house for every holiday. This has been a house of refuge I suppose.

I've seen both my grandparents and many relatives. So have the four family that lived here before me ((all relatives - my sister- my aunt/uncle and my cousin)) Nothing bad. No one ever said anything until I moved in. THEN we all shared ALL OF our stories and they were 90% similar...lmao.

My husband and both of my children have seen them too. We refer to our house as the "spirit party house" because it's nothing negative or bad. The only full figure I did see that scared me once was a civil war soldier and he had transparent/gold-ish eyes. Oh yea, none of mine usually have any sort of distinctive mouths. Anything that I say is done mind-to-mind. ((Oh gawd, now I AM NOT A LOON)).

I would have to agree to steer clear of anything with red eyes and state in your mind for it to go away. There are other things you can say too. PM me if you're interested. Jody

What's the deal with the red eye ones?

I jumped when I read this thread because I'm had problems with a red eyes ever since I was a child.

I always figured this was a fallen Angel or a demon. Is it a shadow people?

Is there a place with detailed info on what to do about these? Or what they are?

I've had several pastors and priests try and deal with this thing over the last 24 years - and half don't believe me if I ask for help,
the other half say I must be the problem.

My friends and family have both seen and heard it (it talks), so it's not my imagination.

I would be very grateful for any info.

Thanks,

-DE

JN????? Would you like to step in here?

did yours wear normal clothes to becuase mine did. i dont know if this thing was trying to blend and for whatever reason i saw it for what it was (evil)and it atacked me but i want to know more about this nameless thing becuase this was not an incounter i enjoyed

Hi DE, Besides red eyes what else is going on with this thing? Does it wake you at night, have you seen it, or just the red eyes in the dark? Does it interfere with you life in any way? Can you give me more details? Thanks, JN-

My pleasure Hun..JN

What did you do when you saw them Gyp? JN

See that WOULD be a good picture if the 'shadow person' didn't cast his OWN shadow

^ Yeah that could just be a dude standing there.

Intriguing thread.

How deep does the rabbit hole go...?

That's what it looks like to me. The blurriness of the photo discredits it as well... along with the bring light directly behind the figure, offering a possible explaination for the distortion of the head area along with others.

I saw this and honestly didn't know what I was supposed to be looking at until I saw the cropped photo and realized what was being referred to... I took it as a man standing behind an elderly woman....

Go ask Alice, I think she'll know....but she's not here so you'll have to try another forum

Yea. I think you should ask MasterPo since he and his team caught this one. I happen to believe the professional's on here. They usually are the most quick to debunk anything else. Anyway, just my opinion.

Where might I find her? A psychadellic drug forum perhaps?