Well as it has been said here before, we really can't trust him now can we? The good thing is he can't do such thing again, since no one will believe his claim.

I'll reiterate. Frank may be brilliant up to point. But that doesn't mean that you can create a formula out of whole cloth and expect it to be accepted by everyone. His formula doesn't prove one way or another that there is anyone out there. Science doesn't deal with empty stats. Science produces results because it works with something to begin with. They don't produce something from nothing. And while you could be correct in your thinking that we're not the best the universe has to offer, unfortunatley so far it's all it's got.

BTW, anyone can create a formula just as good and valid as Drake's. My formula is that there are 3 billion craters on the moon and doing some quick mental match I can say that 1,000 contain an alien base. Prove me wrong.

I cant believe you guys are still disputing this one. I wont even budge on this SE. Its just a formula. I myself (and hopefully the others here) are fully aware that the concept of his formula and why he did it was clearly to give you a broad picture of the "possibilities". Its a theory in the sense of contemplation, speculation. A mere guess or conjecture. I really dont think anyone here is arguing that this formula is proof positive. (unless i missed some one saying that)

good on you sounds like something i would do and you had some interesting results as well, never let fame get to you, it destroys people who are not prepared for it, its a burden. im glad you told the truth its a pity the other 1000 people cant be brave enough to. really with the study of ufo's i believe that if you really want to know the truth you have to see it for yourself, its the same with a lot of paranormal things. though finding a ufo may lead you to be ubducted so maybe just buy a telescope, surely you'll see something sooner or later.

WOW! I would have never guessed there would have been so many responses.

For those of you (names withheld) who think I am a jerk for coming clean and being honest should think of my honesty this way...I DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY ANYTHING AT ALL!!!

I am not asking for second chances nor do I need one but I do deserve one. I don't see anyone else coming clean and saying they placed non-UFO videos on their websites do you? I read all the posts here about what I did, some good and some bad. I expected a mixed reaction. What I also expected was the name calling but it wasn't at me it was at each others' postings. You guys are so predictible.

What I did was grow up and forced myself to be honest from here on out. Which I was anyway (except for 2vids) The point was to show people what I have learned and what I am still learning. It's not about faked videos on the internet but to show you guys how they are being faked. Each episode on CNUFOSTV will talk about a sighting I had or debunked and how I learned the truth. About 98% of you people who saw the fleet video said it was the best fleet ever just like the ones in Mexico. BTW I debunked several of those Mexico sightings as well so don't get upset with me for being honest. That goes for you true believers who believe Venus is a mother ship watchin over Earth. You know the ones I am talking about?

I am not a hardcore debunker, UFOlogist, skeptic or believer but rather a "UFO Realist"

Last episode - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGYXfqQPzPE

New episode coming out tonight by midnight

Thank you all who support my work and those who just found out who I am. It's just about the truth. Isn't it? No second chances needed here and I want you all to watch me with a skeptical eye. LIKE YOU SHOULD HAVE ANYWAY!

'TRUTH TO ALL WHO WATCH AND LISTEN"

Rich Giordano
Cnufos.com
CNUFOSTV
The AZ UFO Show
My Space - theazufoshow (updating)

Didn't you read or watch the videos? It was 2 videos and THAT"S IT!

Nothing else is faked. The first 2 fleets are real...the humanoid (not debunked yet) is real, the city in the sky is most definitely real and so on....I just haven't debunked any of those yet and probably enver will because they may be real.

I am shocked that people are still asking me if any of my vids are real when I clearly stated that it was just these 2 videos. Ughhh

HAND=Have a Nice Day!

Oh well. If you trust anyone it should be me. I just put the microscope on myself to ensure that I can't do this again. I expected to lose a few people here and there but you are just hurt. My God what if I never told you guys any of this? Would I still be a hoaxer? I am the same guy you knew before but just better from getting this out to the public to let you guys know that it can happen to anyone.

Nice knowing you. Whoever you are.

Thank you for clearing that up Rich.

I've watched several videos but from your web site - not so much from Youtube.

And I've listened to your radio shows, but over the past few months it has changed its tone. To me, it now seems more of a show to rank on and/ or debunk others UFO videos - all well and fine, but there's not much talk about UFO's in general as you used to do. Not sure if I make sense.. but hope you understand what I mean.

AND I have always stood by you Rich.. on this very forum I often stuck up for you.

All the best

well I don't BELIEVE YOU. cry boy wolf, make a sentence.
Ok some of the UFO's might be real but I believe you took the footage with a fake camera; made out of cardboard.
We don't get fooled again
no, no no Don't get fooled again. (hits power chord)

It was the expression of amazement by the camera man which added to the sense of realism.

Real UFO

Can't believe I fell for it.

That's true Cinders you did! I remember.

You fell for it. I fell for it and we are always falling for IT!!!

I couldn't have made a better point and some of you are taking it out of context as always.

It was 2 social tests which needed to be done for me and UFOlogy. This is not like the Australian UFO wave where the movie makers purposely faked these sightings for their social tests and don't have a single sighting in their archives. I HAVE legitimate UFO sightings. But I am also a researcher. What do researchers do? Tests! Social and non social depending on the topic.

I can't make you or anyone else believe me and frankly I don't care if you do believe me or even like me for that matter. I knew the consequences but it got out of control. Unless you lived it you can't understand what it's like and that goes for all of you who read this wanting to dislike me for being honest.

I am glad you are mad or don't trust me. You know why? YOU CAN'T TRUST ANYONE IN UFOLOGY! All I want is for people to understand that some studies are going to be hurtful to your ego because you were fooled. But now you know the truth and what you do with it from here is up to you. I am trying to make you all understand IN DEPTH what some researchers have to go through. Like I said before I didn't have to tell anyone anything. But I couldn't live with myself.

So you can go back to not believeing me anymore but I know someday you will come around and see my research has helped UFOlogy in a way no-one else has dared done before.

Thank you Cinders! You should stick up for me on this forum because I never posted those video here for you guys to visit. Is your ego hurt too? I placed a couple of your videos on my You Tube channel and stuck up for them as well. That's what we are supposed to do but did I research your video or see the original footage? NO! I took your word that it wasn't a plane or the moon. For all I know you faked those videos and I was fooled because I wanted to believe you so badly. SO don't try to give me the guilt trip about sticking up for me here in this forum. Because that's what it feels like. I wwent against all my beliefs posting your video on my YT channel. Now...don' get upset with me here I am making a point...Almost all the videos on my YT channel I shot personally so I knew they were legit until I debunked them. I know ME. I don't know YOU! My point is this...I am not taking anyone's word on any UFO videos unless I get to analyze the actual tape like I used to. Now if you came out and told me you figured out what you taped was the moon or a satellite I would commend you for your honesty. But you are not a researcher like me so you have nothing to lose by keeping your mouth closed on whether it's real or fake. If you stuck up for me than that means you trusted me and the videos. So far everything you stuck up for was legit. That's because no-one here in this forum saw me post those videos here. That was on purpose and just for posting on You Tube. I never posted them on my site either. So you can rest assure that I haven't wronged you or anyone by this social test.

Now as far as the show goes??? No you are wrong! 100% wrong. I've been doing the show for a year now and nothing has changed. If you listen to my 1st, 2nd and 3rd shows they all talked about debunking people and ranting about how stupid we all are and how gullable we are when it comes to UFOs because we want to believe so badly. The reason you said my show has been different the last 2 months is because your pride is hurt from sticking up for me and finding out 2 videos were social tests. If the show is so bad then why are you listening? I always said from day 1 that my radio show will not be like C2C or any other traditional show on UFOs. I talk about people wanting to kill me and stuff like that. The things you couldn't live with if you were in my shoes. The things that come with being in the UFO limelight every week and telling people how they faked their UFO videos. People actually want me dead because I said that they taped an airplane instead of a real UFO? Crazy... Instead of them telling me why I could be wrong they decided to post my name and address on You Tube with threats to my family. So, when I hear you are a little hurt by me telling the truth and how my show has changed over the last 2 months well maybe I am dealing with psychopaths and my own half truths keeping me up at night. And quite frankly I am not going to be traditional because it's old news and boring to me.

You come to my radio show because I tell you things no-one else will talk about. You can dislike me but at least listen and learn what it's like to be in my shoes once in a while. I know what I did was half wrong but it was also the correct tests to perform and at the right time in my opinion.

Should I have Stanten Friedman on my show again so we can all hear about Roswell for the 1 mill time? The stories on C2C and alike shows are all about duplicate stories and government cover-ups we hear over and over. I am telling you what it's like to be behind the scenes and how people really treat each other when you are not looking. That and a few interviews with some interesting people I think the show is growing and changing every episode. Always changing but keepingthe same overall ideas of telling it like it is and talking without fear.

Have a nice day!

Rich Giordano

I wasn't hurt Rich.. I just didn't understand.

You and I have emailed each other several times in the past.. or don't you remember?
I haven't recently because I know you are very busy. AND I continue to listen to your shows because I BELIEVE and trust you. K? It just took me all by surprise.

Above all, I never intended to make you angry.. and it seems I have and I'm sorry.

Anyway... thank you for everything.. and for being honest.

All the best Rich

*HAND*

you...you... broke my heart... now, I don't know whose 'funny blobs' to believe in.
Your famous video of the fuzzy out of focus oblong white thing... gave me so much hope..
Now that hope is all but gone.
Damn it, life! why is she so cruel?

Welp, as ive said. Not that I like social experiments (and its just me, i realize they are needed), but I can say one thing. Its better to be fooled by this then being abducted and going through some thing gruesome heh.

No! I am not angry. Just making a direct point to everyone who reads. I'm not angry. Although after reading my reply it does seem that way. Sorry about that.

Just making my point and I appreciate your opinions

Your snide remarks seem out of place here. Comments like yours are a perfect example of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

I never said that I believed in white blobs. You are totally out of your element. Go back to You Tube where comments like yours belong. I am trying to be civil and professional so you and others can learn something. SO what if you think you know it all but your comments tell me otherwise and I am betting I am right about your maturity level. I think you have your name backwards too. See you at the YT comment section where it seems all immature kids play and ruin a perfectly good forum for everyone.

There isn't anything intelligent to discuss. There is no evidence. Video tapes of unknown objects cannot be used as evidence without additional data/info.
In this case, you can't supply any so have chosen to conduct fake UFO vids as part of some weak social experiment.
Yes, we know people fake UFO's...pics/videos what's your point? What makes your ones so difference, well.. apart from the added bonus that you'll 'lie your head off' to defend them.



I've been to your website, and all you have is 'blobs..'. I take it, we can safely assume they're all fake...
With the name 'CNUFO' anywhere in the vincity, I think it's a safe bet.


Yeah, nice social experiment.. you right.. people put thier crap videos of UFOs on YouTube.. again what's your point.
Oh btw where can I watch your latest CNUFO video documentary? Is it, by any chance on Youtube.



It's actually very doubtful you could teach me or anyone else anything.
So to recap... your social experiment is akin to telling someone online a lie..and that's it.
Person A "I've won the lottery!"
Person B "Really? are you serious?"
Person A "Yes.. I really have won the lottery..I'm A Millionare"
Person B " Ok, Congratulation.."
Person A " No, not really I didn't win the lottery! you really shouldn't be so gullible, thanks for taking part in my social experiment."
Person B "Huh?....but you were the one who...ah forget it"

Conclusion... some people 'lie'



Yep, the Billy Hill, like that's my real name. Is it my real name? Or is part of a social experiment?
I leave the gullible fools to works that one out..(evil laughter)
Anyway, speaking of redneks weren't you the one who claimed to video tape an object..which you decided to call 'bubba'
I take it... we can safely bury that footage with the rest of the dire fakes on youtube.
Btw why did you call it bubba?
Looked just like a 'blob' to me.

The formula thing I agree with Wolfen, I mean come on how many times does the word THEORY have to be said before someone gets a clue as to what the word actually means. Its an expression of POSSIBILITIES, not of FACT is that now obvious enough a statement.
CN let me see you claim a noble "social" experiment, which involves " tricking" people with rudementary skills in the digital word when compared to your obvious skill. So as part of your experiment you were in the market to make people look like rubes. Well I can see all sorts of valuable lessons you could learn by making fools out of people. You seem upset at the people who don't think your a swell guy for doing this, which tells me along with the nature of this experiment that your the kinda guy who thinks anyone who doesn't agree with you is obvious short changed in the brains department, while everyone who does agree is a genius, hmmmm curious? And what PHD do you hold? Your an internet jockey, a viral hedgemony, leave the social experiments to those who are educated enough to do them. Now your problem is what i have always said would happen in this area, "the Human" factor, detracting from any real information. Now when anyone has any evidence, even if its only of a technical varity, all anyone has to do is point to your film and say,' yeah but have you seen that Youtube video that guy made? it looks just like that". Then people will be able to explain away without having to put in effort. Stuff like this raises the bar to a level that makes serious conversation about the subject impossible. You've muddied the waters, which is never good. The boy who cried wolf should never ever be shocked if no one ever believes them again.

I still dont see this as a bad thing imo. Hes pointed some "earthly" possibilities that we need to consider (not instantly assume) when seeing these "things" that some people seem to be seeing. (how many see's in there?)

I can tell by the total amount of stars next to your name that you are one of these people who thinks they know it all and has to get the last word in every time. Why else would you be here every single day of your life posting snide remarks like a know it all. I don't care who you are or what you do but it's obviously you know crap about me. SO what if you've been to my site and you see blobs. You obviously haven't heard but I debunked almost every one of these blobs and talk about it all the time on my show. You are a dy late and a dollar short and totally do not get the point. All you want to do is make rude comments. "LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE!" At least I am trying to make UFOlogy a better place are you? NO! All you care about is making waves with stupid comments and trying to be controversial. It's what you do and you do not do it well. BTW if an object is a blob and it's over your house and you can't hear it or see structure than what is it? You must know UFOs are real right? So why can't there have been a wave in Az 1.5 to 2 yrs ago? Just because they aren't over your house dosn't mean they aren't over mine. Another little factoid for a place in your purse is this. I haven't seen anything real in almost a year and a half. Could it be possible the wave is over here? Sure. Or is it possible I know more than you when it comes to Arizona UFO activity because I live here and see the reports dwindling down to nothing the last year or so? Hmmm....sounds like we had a UFO wave here to me. I don't want you to believe me or any of my videos. No-one should trust anyone anyway. SO for you "MR know it all" it will never be good enough, long enough, high enough, low enough and close enough. Argueing with you is a lost cause. Your stars prove that to me.

Ooh cnufos steps up. Yeah my number of stars....blah blah
Well, I can see by the number of your lack of stars ( or posts 12), suggests your only interest is UM is 'spamming' to promote your 'crap' website and your fake ufo videos on youtube.
Like you said, you became addicted to the buzz... lol and you claim I'm sad.
Btw I like your nice new video on youtube... seems more like the camera is focused- not on 'blobs' this time but upon yourself.
Nice perm and sunglasses.smirks.
You whole take on UFO Investigation is useless and contributes nothing. Filming fake UFO's, lying about them.. and then expecting a pat on the back from the UFO community for being so clever when you (finally) came clean.
btw Just how many people did you lie to via email?
Anyway your so-called investigations are very telling from a psychological point of view- suggesting manipulation, narcissism and vanity.
I look forward to your next post, telling the UM forum, when you're posting your new exciting episode of cnufos on youtube.
Billy of the Hill.

Yeah great, so the next person who films something of note, can expect people to automatically assume they've faked it.. and if the person tries to defend the video then we can automatically assume they're lying.
Afterall, is that not the most earthly possibility?
Great contribution to the UFO community which to a certain extent relies on 'trust.'

People dont have to assume anything. They do. Thats how so many fakes were pulled off in the first place. All thats going on here is education to help further your search for something. We want the same thing. To find a real ufo. And there are plenty of sightings out there to dig through. Some are fake, some people will "assume:" this immedietly and try to prove so. While the other will assume or "trust" that its a actual ufo. Its just a matter of proof and if some videos are "proven" with out a doubt they are fake, or pure assumption, imagination, initial reactions, mistakes, then thats part of the process. Some of us out there like myself truly believe in aliens. I have no doubt in my mind they exist out there. Wether they have come here or not... I do not know. Would I like that to be proven for a fact? HELL YEA. Though who knows what the consequences could be. Any how. Point here is, this hatred of skeptics and some skeptics and vice versa is so annoying. The majority of the people are looking for answers. (emphasize period) Some things will be proven, some will not. No need to hate and argue over that.

Hate is too a strong a word. I just find it ironic/comical that someone fakes ufo videos and then lies about them to demonstrate that 'people should be more skeptical/ while at the same time still expecting people to 'believe' his previous videos.
The faking doesn't bother me- the lying does though... once the 'believers' trust has been breeched- what else is there?

Don't worry about the skeptics- they never took cnufos seriously in the first place.

what else could i say that billy hasn't, all the points i was trying to make.

you think Cnufos had his feelings hurt?
typical of todays generation, hurt people's feelings and then be genuinly surprised that they don't line up to pat you on the back. How old is cnufos anyway?

How funny is your question? "How old is Cnufos anyway?" Between your's and Hillbilly's comments regarding me and my "work", now makes sense to me as to why you guys weren't making sense in the first place. You don't know anything about me. Yet you make judgements on one piece of work I did about "telling it like it is" and you have no history of how I came to fake these 2 videos and why I said they were real. Most everything you say is moot.

You should have visited the website I own, listen to my radio show (never happen anyway) and watch the new You Tube videos (again, never happen anyway). This way when you say things like, "How old is Cnufos?" and Hillbilly's comment saying, "The skeptics were never worried about Cnufos anyway", you might actually make sense. Of course I don't expect everyone to know me or my "work" but you unknowingly contradict everything you say about me because you never investigated the guy who made these claims in the first place. Which is me. So I laugh out loud at those who point fingers when you are just like everyone else who has a voice and no facts to back them up. All you do is stir the pot and probably smoke it too. LOL

Just a couple of know-it-alls who know nothing...typical.

About how many stars I have next to my avatar? The reason there are so few is because of people like you who don't get it. Here's the deal Hillbilly...There are new people coming into UFOlogy all the time and that's a fact. Another fact is that there are people out there who only want to hoax a UFO video for the little fame they will receive and to see if they can get away with it. The next fact is that there are nutjobs who videotape bushes and say they see alien faces all over there backyard and their neighborhood and people cherish these videos and trust them. I do not fall in either category...

For me it started out as something I always had an interest in researching but never did. Then I saw something, recorded it and saw it again. I was excited but still didn't believe these were UFOs. I went on the internet to research as much as I could while all along seeing and videotaping things in the sky not knowing anything about video cameras, balloons out of focus and the fact I was as green as could be. I met Brian Vike via the internet and sent him my videos which he posted on his website as legitimate and even then I was a bit confused. Confused because he just took my word for it, never met me personally and never analyzed the footage. Which were satellites but how could I have known but you would think Vike would have known? I was that gullable back then.

Now, making this long story shorter...I eventually made the website in hopes of getting answers with only 4 or 5 videos. Brian Vike invited me to be on Rense Radio a few times to tell my stories but no-one analyzed any of my videos and here I was talking on the radio and doing other shows telling my stories. Back then everyone told me what I was taping was legit and I believed them and kept on taping.

After meeting many skywatchers and watching their videos I started to see strings on the balloons, hiker's helmet lights bicycling on mountains and flares galore. It was all rubbish. Was I blinded too and no-one is telling me my UFO videos are balloons because they are afraid of hurting my feelings? So I decided to analyze my own videos. Looking at them as if they weren't mine and taught myself how to debunk them and then debunking the other skywatchers videos in the process. One skywatcher was Jeff Woolwine who lives in my area and he gave me 3 hours of crappy footage on a VHS tape. I saw so many strings on his balloon-UFO footage I had to ask him if he saw what I saw. His answer was this..."These aren't strings but rather a tail the lizard people have so they can abduct and pick-up things." Immediately I knew this guy was not like me and all these terrible thoughts were going through my mind. Is this what people think of me? Is this all bullcrap? How can this guy make a website and have tours up a mountain telling tales of the lizard people coming out of the cracks in the rocks and flying around the sky looking to abduct things? Yet he is the only one in his neighborhood who sees this? But it doesn't stop there...these people are everywhere and I am not one of them nor will I ever be. That's when things started to get tricky for me and thisis when I changed my tune from believer to debunker/realist..

I started my debunking and teaching campaign about a year ago and all I am finding is that people don't want to hear the truth. One guy claims he's videotaped over 30 humanoids in one month in Santa Monica, Ca. He happily sent the video still (no video) to everyone he knew and these UFO website owners posted his story as legit placing the story on their homepage as the headline. But when I looked at these video grabs I saw airplanes heading from left to right with landing gear and wings easily seen. He taped planes and thought they were humanoids. I emailed him my findings and he called me a pompouss ass and said I was bad for UFOlogy and with no explanation for his anger toward me but I know why now. The word got around that I was a debunker and people who were once my friends were now my enemies. I was in complete shock that these people backed up the humanoid story-type of guy because they are all very good friends and pushed me aside because I told the truth and PROVED it plane as day. (play on words) I was in the circle for a moment and now I am out.

But what I was also finding about these skywatchers was that they stick together and any outsider who doesn't play by their rules will be outed. These are the people you should be concerned with, not me. These are the people who place anything and everything on their websites as long as credit is given and will leave it up for the public to decide. Well...I am decideng now and they don't like it. I can't believe that people are mad at me for telling the truth. Don't you think they would want to know who the liars are for their own website's credibility and their own?

SO I decided to tell it like it is no matter what the consequnces. I was not going to tell a lie no matter how many people hate me for it and that's when I decided to come clean. I am not a great story teller or writer but I just want to tell the truth. I am kind of starting over with no secrets I guess you could say. I can't do my job as a debunker if I have skeletons in my closet like those 2 videos. You may dislike me now but I didn't have to tell the truth. Everything was going great and no-one questioned me but it was unintentional and I corrected it asap.

I am doing this all on my own and sometimes I may not have any guidence except for what feels right. I know I am not like Jeff Woolwine or the humanoid guy who won't accept that they may have taped balloons or planes. I was taping satellites for a year until someone proved that I was taping satellites. The next day I never taped another satellite and took down all the videos from my website leaving some up for referencing. I could have left them up there while getting thousands of hits each week but I did the right thing like always. I tried 2 social tests and both proved my point. Were the tests weak? No. Because it was MY test not yours. I am teaching myself through trial and error where no-one ese will risk losing their credibility for the good of UFOlogy. I feel the test was successful because there were alot of people who trusted me and trusted what I said when they never should. My point is this. Don't trust anyone. People can see a fake a mile away and that's why so many people were shocked when they heard about the 2 videos because I was someone people trusted, more than others anyway. Now I am forced to always be honest. Which is easy for me because other than those 2 videos I am always honest.

BTW I do not and never will have a perm. I have a very straight short style haircut. Damn HD cameras! LOL

Being a debunker I have received death threats to me and my family as well as many other hateful things not allowed to say here. You think it's easy then you try walking in my shoes. Don't be so quick to judge unless you've investigated me for at least the last year. Now I am done here.

YES! I will be posting my new episode on CNUFOSTV here because I am vein and love to hear myself talk. But other than that I am still going to show what I've learned and taped.

Death threats are not cool... I think you deserved a 'light grilling' and that's it..
so peace..

its ironic that you label me as a know it all, when only someone who truly thinks he knows it all would perpitrate a scam like you did. Confident in your superior intellect that you know what fools people are becaue it was so easy to fool them. Think about it and stop being righteous.

Not that I really care, but damnit - you appeared on Fastwalkers - a great movie about UFOs - as a serious researcher and believer (at least, you came across that way). I'm a firm believer whose faith is based on research, but episodes like this make me want to grab my video editing software and perform some blanking out of the video for myself so you don't appear in it. I wish you well and next time don't do crap like this. It cheapens serious debunkers, and it leads serious researchers astray.

thank you digital, it seemed like that to me too.

I walk around with a salt shaker these days - especially in this field - so it gets sprinkled quite liberally considering we rarely ever truly know other people's agendas.

what i don't get is why he thinks people should thank him, THAT is what makes the least sense.

"thank you oh thank you for making fools of us we see clearly now what were we thinking"

Well, appearing in a full out well made documentary with other serious researchers that have credibility as a bona fide researcher is pretty embarrassing, I would think. I'm sure he gets enough flak as it is. Dunno 'bout the death threats too. Hell - maybe he's making that up too and is just trying to redeem himself or make us feel sorry. In any case, it has been the chief factor preventing me from visiting his website or taking what he says on the topic seriously.

yeah that is funny, you should believe me when i say i have recieved death threats. Hello you lied to us, why should we belive anything. From now on because of his 'social experiment' there will always be doubt, way to shoot himself in the foot, no?

WHAT! HOW in the world could you do something like that,Wish I could make you pay with cutting your tonge off and hanging it on my wall like some trophy trout! but since you came clean..,nah I want your head on a pole.you stink dude. I will tell my friends not to believe anything you post and .....nah I forgive you.Takes a big man to come clean and live with that on your shoulders,wouldnt want to be you. So how does it feel to fool the masses? and to make thousands of people feel foolish? Just remember that old saying"Never cry WOLF"..........

Yea he shot himself in the foot with a BIG OLD GUN and wasnt wearing any shoes. What was going through his head when he thought of that ?

I have to admit I've been tempted more than once to create fake pics in order to make people realize how easy it is to fake photos. Luckily, I haven't, and I'm glad too, since I actually did see something strange about three weeks back and posted pictures on my website. Doh - turned out to be Venus in her waxing phase. The show was spectacular.

Just want to add my perspective:-

For those people who want to understand the UFO phenomenon they face a myriad of obstacles.

Lack of understanding from the general populus, possible disinformation/cover-up from government bodies, hard core sceptics who would not believe if a UFO landed in their back garden.

Anyone with more than a passing interest in UFOlogy knows that "most" video's and pictures are either fake or explainable. There is no need to "prove" to the populus that fake images can be generated by digital models etc. In fact i do wonder how many genuine UFO pics get consigned to the recycle bin because of the high-tech fakes.

All the UFO community has is a thin veneer of trust that people do not misrepresent themselves when positioning themselves as genuine UFO researchers. This is the Internet, and personally i treat everything i read here sceptically. The reason i do so is that is due to people just like the OP, who think its funny/clever/"proves i'm better"/"i'm teaching everyone" by misrepresenting either themselves or work that they or others have produced on the net.

I dont give a monkeys what rational you had when you originally posted those videos on your website, call it a social experiment if you wish, but in fact all you did is undermine even further the work of genuine researchers.

That you then posted here to tell everyone about it just smells of an ego-centric personality who (as you yourself admit) just want fame. Why not just post your apology on your own website and be done with it?

good one

I did post the video on my site with apology and I have been done with it. I am defending myself like always, way before anyone knew of the 2 social experimental videos. Everyone is missing my point. New people to UFOlogy are learning all the time. SO am I. Sorry if this is old news to you or it's the same old thing but I am passing on some information which could influence someone to do the right thing all the time so they don't have to deal with negative feedback in the UFO community. You can say anything you want about me but I didn't have to come clean at all. The people you may look up to are way worse than me. Have done horrible things like lying, hiding evidence of known legit UFO videos which are really fakes and some say they have unlimited military acess to all top secret programs but really don't have access to anything at all. If you wached Fastwalkers and thought all of these people were on the up and up then you need to do some research. I've had face to face discussions with alot of people you may find credible (not mentioning any names) who say this person is not who he says he is and that person never witnessed a UFO even though he said he stood right next to one in Roswell. The reason you don't know these people are liars is because they will never come clean and tell the truth because they spent many years using their military status to gain credibility and we all believed it because we didn't know any better. I was the only skywatcher in Fastwalkers because I tell it like it is and have a lot of credibility. If this was an ego trip or me crying wolf than you and others who think that are sadly mistaken. I choose to be a voice through my website and You Tube to share my expereinces because they ARE hard to believe. I definitely had death threats and I can prove it. I was followed for 2 days and I have proof of that as well. I didn't lie to be loved and felt sorry for. I did something I know very few individuals could overcome. I am not bad for UFOlogy - UFOlogy is bad to everyone. Filled with liars who are deemed credible, hoaxed videos and a bunch of stuff you already know for which I could go on and on about but don't have the time now.

All I ever did was try to do the right thing. I made a mistake and it's over but I won't be walked all over either.

Sounds good, but it still makes me wary of virtually anything you might put up in terms of vids and pictures from here on. I just have trouble believing you actually conned a producer into taking you on as a contributor in Fastwalkers when really you were pulling his leg. That really ticked me off, but whatever. I also don't automatically trust the other "researchers" as well however. Haven't for a while. I wholeheartedly trust people like Fyfe Symington (I mean, why the hell would a former governor who has already been in the limelight while in office come out on a subject as controversial as UFOs?). I also tend to like what Robert Dean has to say, as well as Clifford Stone. David Sereda also comes across as a very sincere individual (with loads of passion and drive for the subject). And there are others too. But like you said, there are some who just..."irk" me. Charles Hall kinda rubs me the wrong way for a few reasons. And some others.

'tis the beautiful thing about humanity: we don't all have to get along. We can have our differences and still exist and work together.

Okay, fair enough. Just so you know I didn't con the Fastwalkers crew into believing me. The fleet video and the spider web video (the social exps) were after Fastwalkers contacted me to be a part of their movie. They knew what kind of guy I was and what my motives were as a debunker. Actually it's kind of ironic how you mentioned Robert O Dean and David Sereda as sincere when both of these guys are not telling you everything you need to know. I learned about Robert Dean's fairy tales while meeting people who know him for many years during the Fastwalkers time. Like I said I met many researchers who are important to UFOlogy right now and it seems everyone has dollar signs in their eyes. Especially David Sereda. It's a shame and that's what was happening to me slowly but surely. I have yet to make a dollar researching UFOs but the opportunities are abundant but somewhat shady. It's why I came forward...to be one of the few who can say, "I now have nothing to hide!" It's why I want to be the voice and have the radio show to talk about the hoaxers and liars. I can teach others what NOT to do by my experiences and how I almost got sucked into the popularity contest. I make no money and do everything out of my own pocket and free time like most good researcher.

Don't believe me ever again, that's not ok with me, but I can't please everyone no matter how hard I try anyway. I understand your concerns and they are valid concerns. I didn't have to come forward you know but that's what is going to separate me in the long run. Now you don't trust me but maybe in the future you will see I am one of the good guys.

Thanks for having a mature and normal conversation. It's rare and I appreciate everyone's concerns. But let's see where this takes me and then re-evaluate who I am a year from now.

All the best,

Rich Giordano

I respect you, it's just that once you've been burnt, you're a little shy, you know? I can't blame David for wanting to make a few bucks doing what he's doing. How else is he going to actually make a living if he's dedicating all his time to researching the phenomenon? It's really no different than an author who writes books on the subject then goes on the circuit promoting his ideas and work. Perfectly normal. Besides, David's got a pretty hot girlfriend if that's really his girlfriend in that video they made. She's probably "pushing" him a bit to make a little coin while involved in the field - like any normal partner would. Highly typical. And with Robert Dean, despite his admittedly occasional flights of fancy, he still corroborates much of what other researchers have to say on the subject. Out of all of these guys though, I'd have to say Fyfe impresses me the most: He's low key, factual, and seems unimpressed with the attention this has given him since he's already been down that road while he was State Governor.

i tend not to believe your apology.

Why does the kid have to be fat?

he doesn't really i was just trying to create the proper imagery of a large child abusing a small animal. Would it have the same meaning if I said the scrawny under height bespectackled kid?