No it's not a wrong subforum, because this painting has been often discussed in some UFO groups.
Here is the famous "Sputnik" painting called "Glorification of the Eucharist" painted (finished) in 1600 by Bonaventura Salimbeni in the church of San Lorenzo in San Pietro
I think it is a very interesting theme. The two persons are suppose to be Father and Son, holding some sphere
http://www.save-san-pietro-montalcino.com/...r_pianello2.JPG
http://www.the1phoenix.net/x-files/pix/mystero/salimbT.jpg
though I guess you could interpret this as Earth with them sticking some things into it
but here is another interesting one, called Baptism of Christ by Aert DeGelder from 1710:
http://www.sprezzatura.it/Arte/DeGelder_Baptism-hr.jpg
and an interesting object floating in the picture from a book "Le Livre Des Bonnes Moeurs" by Jacques Legrand from 1338
http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/ball-ufo.jpg
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I think it is safe to say, that any reasonable art afficianado could provide explanations that are based on artistic metaphors of the day.
It certainly strikes me that any religious painting, say, Giotto and later artists, were simply trying to feed themselves by making works for the ruling elite. They filled the works with allegory and patronage. IMO.
It certainly strikes me that any religious painting, say, Giotto and later artists, were simply trying to feed themselves by making works for the ruling elite. They filled the works with allegory and patronage. IMO.
First / second pic. Odd. My imagination was spurred to believe that looks like a satelite. Then I thought about the art some more. I came up with "Two people feeding upon the blood of the earth before it spills out freely". The two tubes being a form of straw, the hole at the bottom being where the blood (or liquid of some kind) could flow out. Thats just my imagination though right? ; )
Third Pic... now were getting some where. Ive seen these kind before and they ALWATS baffle me. Just what exactly made the artist think of a plate shaped object in the sky that has rays of light coming from it? I always find it hard to try and think of what known type of objects could of inspired such a thing. These types of paintings always fascinate me and I think there is a possibility that they saw something much like what they drew. =)
Fourth, falls close to the same category as the third for me, but not quite as fascinating. The object seems far to "decorated" to me. As if it has more meaning or the person had more of an understanding of that object and used it as symbolism.
Third Pic... now were getting some where. Ive seen these kind before and they ALWATS baffle me. Just what exactly made the artist think of a plate shaped object in the sky that has rays of light coming from it? I always find it hard to try and think of what known type of objects could of inspired such a thing. These types of paintings always fascinate me and I think there is a possibility that they saw something much like what they drew. =)
Fourth, falls close to the same category as the third for me, but not quite as fascinating. The object seems far to "decorated" to me. As if it has more meaning or the person had more of an understanding of that object and used it as symbolism.
Well I just used a couple of interesting examples. There are much more to be found
One possible source of inspiration (though I doubt it) is the "wheel in middle of wheel" from the Bible
and regarding the first pic, I think its earth, because you can see a dark gray spot and a yellow bright spot, which could be moon and
sun, and if you look carefully you can see sea and continents, and the the antennas are probably some kind of symbolism
of divine establishment on earth.
One possible source of inspiration (though I doubt it) is the "wheel in middle of wheel" from the Bible
and regarding the first pic, I think its earth, because you can see a dark gray spot and a yellow bright spot, which could be moon and
sun, and if you look carefully you can see sea and continents, and the the antennas are probably some kind of symbolism
of divine establishment on earth.
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 13 2007, 09:28 PM) 
Well I just used a couple of interesting examples. There are much more to be found
One possible source of inspiration (though I doubt it) is the "wheel in middle of wheel" from the Bible
and regarding the first pic, I think its earth, because you can see a dark gray spot and a yellow bright spot, which could be moon and
sun, and if you look carefully you can see sea and continents, and the the antennas are probably some kind of symbolism
of divine establishment on earth.
One possible source of inspiration (though I doubt it) is the "wheel in middle of wheel" from the Bible
and regarding the first pic, I think its earth, because you can see a dark gray spot and a yellow bright spot, which could be moon and
sun, and if you look carefully you can see sea and continents, and the the antennas are probably some kind of symbolism
of divine establishment on earth.
Oh yes. I know there are a lot of great ones. Like I said. These have always fascinated me. I believe it was the history channel who did a episode of something about aliens and the bible, or ufos rather. Lots of intriguing drawings that make you wonder what exactly they were seeing. Mona Lisa? Did that ever get explained by chance? I ask cause I really dont know. I recall a scientist from NASA rebuilding what was described by some in the bible and it looked like what we would probably call a ufo these days. Lots of strange stuff indeed.
In regards to the first pic. For some reason.. the bright dot didnt catch my eye the first time for some reason but yea... I can totally see what you mean. Thats the neat thing about art, look at our intrepritations so far hehe. Just from two people and they were some what different. The thing about that pic though that strikes me as odd as that the ball looks metalic. That could be what they other folk are perceiving as something UFO'ish. Thats what grabbed me right away. It looked like plated metal.... with antennas, and a yellow light, and some other object protruding that we have no idea the purpose of (like most common folk and lookin at a satelite haha).
Regarding Bible, god usually shows up in fiery clouds or chariots, but on one account (Ezekiel's "recruitment")
4 wheels were seen, and they were very large. And each of them had an inner wheel.
Now, wheels of that time were not spoked, so you can imagine them as disks.
It is also mentioned that each of the 4 wheel-in-wheels had many eyes around its rim.
They were shiny and had the color of some mineral (I forgot which one but it was metallic pale green)
If you draw that down , you can pretty much get a picture of your typical UFO
But if you go to Indian culture, then you are in for a treat, because their gods had missiles, and special vehicles, and even people were taught to build and drive them, and they also had big flying cities.
And these gods were fighting wars with these vehicles called "Vimanas", which could shoot lightning bolts, and
weapons that would release a deadly breath which would kill the unborn children, which some interpret as radioactivity.
4 wheels were seen, and they were very large. And each of them had an inner wheel.
Now, wheels of that time were not spoked, so you can imagine them as disks.
It is also mentioned that each of the 4 wheel-in-wheels had many eyes around its rim.
They were shiny and had the color of some mineral (I forgot which one but it was metallic pale green)
If you draw that down , you can pretty much get a picture of your typical UFO
But if you go to Indian culture, then you are in for a treat, because their gods had missiles, and special vehicles, and even people were taught to build and drive them, and they also had big flying cities.
And these gods were fighting wars with these vehicles called "Vimanas", which could shoot lightning bolts, and
weapons that would release a deadly breath which would kill the unborn children, which some interpret as radioactivity.
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 13 2007, 09:48 PM)
Regarding Bible, god usually shows up in fiery clouds or chariots, but on one account (Ezekiel's "recruitment")
4 wheels were seen, and they were very large. And each of them had an inner wheel.
Now, wheels of that time were not spoked, so you can imagine them as disks.
It is also mentioned that each of the 4 wheel-in-wheels had many eyes around its rim.
They were shiny and had the color of some mineral (I forgot which one but it was metallic pale green)
If you draw that down , you can pretty much get a picture of your typical UFO
But if you go to Indian culture, then you are in for a treat, because their gods had missiles, and special vehicles, and even people were taught to build and drive them, and they also had big flying cities.
And these gods were fighting wars with these vehicles called "Vimanas", which could shoot lightning bolts, and
weapons that would release a deadly breath which would kill the unborn children, which some interpret as radioactivity.
4 wheels were seen, and they were very large. And each of them had an inner wheel.
Now, wheels of that time were not spoked, so you can imagine them as disks.
It is also mentioned that each of the 4 wheel-in-wheels had many eyes around its rim.
They were shiny and had the color of some mineral (I forgot which one but it was metallic pale green)
If you draw that down , you can pretty much get a picture of your typical UFO
But if you go to Indian culture, then you are in for a treat, because their gods had missiles, and special vehicles, and even people were taught to build and drive them, and they also had big flying cities.
And these gods were fighting wars with these vehicles called "Vimanas", which could shoot lightning bolts, and
weapons that would release a deadly breath which would kill the unborn children, which some interpret as radioactivity.
Yes, thats the one my friend. Some one at Nasa used all the metrics in the bible stated and rebuilt it. Looked like a UFO hehe.
The Indian stories Im assuming your talking about India. Yes that was covered to. Huge battles in the sky and everything. Where would they have come up with that I wonder to hehe. Either some one was seeing the future of an aerial battle to take place over there skies, or something we werent capable of building at that time was certainly in the sky, OR a great imagination. I cant say myself obviously. Leaves one to wonder for sure. Again, thats why I LOVE those kinds paintings.
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