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SG7
Im looking for the language of the angel. Any hits to were I can find it?
libra II
QUOTE(SG7 @ Sep 15 2007, 08:30 AM) *
Im looking for the language of the angel. Any hits to were I can find it?



Hells angels?
CardWise
hmm language of angels I'm not sure if thats a metaphor or if you mean the language that angels speak in, ill share my views either way.

as far as there language i think they might speak a universal language that all things can understand. Or possibly an ancient form of hebrew

I once heard of something called the "name of angels" witch is a sheet of paper with symbols on it that is some kind of code for summoning angels to help you.

I'm not sure where i saw this so ill do some research and possibly get back to you.
libra II
QUOTE(CardWise @ Sep 15 2007, 03:11 PM) *
hmm language of angels I'm not sure if thats a metaphor or if you mean the language that angels speak in, ill share my views either way.

as far as there language i think they might speak a universal language that all things can understand. Or possibly an ancient form of hebrew

I once heard of something called the "name of angels" witch is a sheet of paper with symbols on it that is some kind of code for summoning angels to help you.

I'm not sure where i saw this so ill do some research and possibly get back to you.



No need CW, and don't call us we'll call you
Kazahel
Like Enochian.. that kind of thing maybe.
JackalnChainz
Interesting topic. I have heard this before by another author, and I find it very intriguing. I hope this thread developes further.
She-ra
Wel, here's a start:

Enochian

Lang of Angels

Zibu
SG7
I'll tell you what I know as of now.

I frist found out about the language wen I was looking into The Book Of The Angel Rezial. I now have the englash verzon of the book and so far I can find any thing that looks like a language. But Im not thow the hole book yet, very deep book. Takes a wal.

I then found out that the ark had angelc on it. The Book Of The Angel Rezial was said to have told the people how to bild it. And Im not taking about noa's ark, the ark with the 10 commanmint in it. Althoe The book did help with noa's ark, Long histroy that book has.

Its also said that hebrew came form the righting on the ark. Form the Angelc language, So it can be reed and spoking.


northwest
QUOTE(SG7 @ Sep 15 2007, 06:30 AM) *
Im looking for the language of the angel. Any hits to were I can find it?


what do you mean find it? You certainly won't find a dictionary.

Every language is symbolism. When you say "sky", people imagine sky.
But their language goes far beyond that, it is literally speaking in symbols,
images, sounds, numbers, geometry etc.
It is much more direct and precise than word language. You don't have to explain
"what you mean", you just show what you mean.

that's one of the reasons why all those religions around the world are full of
number symbolics, weird visions, parables etc.

I guess you could call it telepathy, but it's different from hearing words,
its more like speaking with dreams.
Just like you sort of speak to yourself in dreams through symbols, and you never
see your subconsciousness talk to you in dreams directly with words, but
the messages in dreams is always hidden in symbols.







Genocyde
Look into Dr. John Dee and the Enochian system. thumbsup.gif
libra II
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 16 2007, 03:01 PM) *
what do you mean find it? You certainly won't find a dictionary.

Every language is symbolism. When you say "sky", people imagine sky.
But their language goes far beyond that, it is literally speaking in symbols,
images, sounds, numbers, geometry etc.
It is much more direct and precise than word language. You don't have to explain
"what you mean", you just show what you mean.

that's one of the reasons why all those religions around the world are full of
number symbolics, weird visions, parables etc.

I guess you could call it telepathy, but it's different from hearing words,
its more like speaking with dreams.
Just like you sort of speak to yourself in dreams through symbols, and you never
see your subconsciousness talk to you in dreams directly with words, but
the messages in dreams is always hidden in symbols.



Nothing crazy about you NW. Where did you get that from?
northwest
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 16 2007, 03:40 PM) *
Nothing crazy about you NW. Where did you get that from?


same place he god his question from


and by all conventional definitions of crazy, yes, I am crazy
libra II
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 15 2007, 03:14 PM) *
No need CW, and don't call us we'll call you



Sorry about that, CW. Just wanted a good argument with someone. Forgot JWs don't argue

Take care
libra II
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 16 2007, 05:43 PM) *
same place he god his question from
and by all conventional definitions of crazy, yes, I am crazy



No, youre not crazy

See ya
northwest
QUOTE(libra II @ Sep 16 2007, 03:46 PM) *
No, youre not crazy

See ya


actually, it can be argued that belief in higher beings is a legitimate form of Schizophrenia
libra II
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 16 2007, 07:54 PM) *
actually, it can be argued that belief in higher beings is a legitimate form of Schizophrenia


I suppose it could be

Take care, NW
Mr Walker
The word angel comes from the greek word for messenger, and indeed the prime role of angels is as messengers. Thus, angels speak in what ever language is required to get their mesage across. Think of it like a universal translator. They speak to all in a language or manner which is best likely to be understood and acted on. I think perhaps they are just speaking one language, but in a manner that can be understood in many different languages and cultures.

I think northwest is very close to the mark, although my angels spoke in very good clear english, sometimes, but not always, accompanied by physical manifestations. And by the way, schitzophrenia cant give accurate visions of the future, turn electrical power on and off, or leave physical objects behind which were not there before the manifestation.

More important is the way they speak. This is usually tailored to the situation. The first angel I encountered spoke with great power and authority, which matched its physical manifestation. Others only need to whisper at a quiet time, to get yoiur attention.

Once you have identified the voice of your angel, and it usually is one angel per person (or perhaps they were many but spoke with one voice), you will never forget it, nor ignore it.
She-ra
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Sep 16 2007, 10:57 PM) *
... only need to whisper at a quiet time, to get your attention.
Once you have identified the voice of your angel, and it usually is one angel per person (or perhaps they were many but spoke with one voice), you will never forget it, nor ignore it.


Very interesting. I liked your post a lot...the "whisper" really got my attention and yes, only one "guardian" angel per person original.gif. Nice one thumbsup.gif Jody
Ghost Ship
Enochian - The Language of Angels.


Enochian is a name often applied to an occult or angelic language recorded in the private journals of Dr. John Dee and his seer Edward Kelley in the late 16th century. The men claimed that it was revealed to them by angels, while some contemporary scholars of magick consider it a constructed language.

Applying the term "Enochian" to the language is a modern convention—not found in Dee's journals. Dee referred to the language as "Angelical", the "Celestial Speech", the "Language of Angels", the "First Language of God-Christ" and the "Holy Language". He sometimes referred to its alphabet as "Adamical" because (according to Dee's Angels) it was used by Adam in Paradise to name all things. Dee also recorded that the Patriarch Enoch had been the last human (before Dee and Kelley) to know the language—thus prompting later scholars to refer to the language and Dee's entire magickal system as "Enochian".

edit: Oh. She-ra already posted this. Are you in iraq right now she-ra?
She-ra
QUOTE(Blue_Sphere @ Sep 16 2007, 11:44 PM) *
edit: Oh. She-ra already posted this. Are you in iraq right now she-ra?

lmao...it's cool. yep in my own little war zone...just kidding!! original.gif hey you're the only one who noticed lol, Jody
starlight64
QUOTE(She-ra @ Sep 16 2007, 10:55 PM) *
lmao...it's cool. yep in my own little war zone...just kidding!! original.gif hey you're the only one who noticed lol, Jody


Jody,
Forgive me for not getting this..But I too wanted to ask you if you are really in Iraq? I have several family members in the military that have either been there or are still there. sad.gif

It's scary.
I noticed it as soon as I got on the site tonight.

Love,
star****
northwest
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Sep 17 2007, 02:57 AM) *
The word angel comes from the greek word for messenger, and indeed the prime role of angels is as messengers. Thus, angels speak in what ever language is required to get their mesage across. Think of it like a universal translator.


I assume he meant, the language that angels speak among themselves
Mr Walker
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 18 2007, 03:11 AM) *
I assume he meant, the language that angels speak among themselves

I think it is the same language. Angels don't go out and learn; russian, greek, spanish etc. They speak one language which is Universally Translated into the language of the listener. This makes sense from both a logical and scientific viewpoint and a biblical one. After all, humans all spoke one language according to the bible until god divided this into many languages at the tower of babel. For some this language may translate as music and for others symbols or images.

Angels are certainly capable of "sending" full blown images/visions into people's minds, both while they are waking and asleep. This is confirmed again through biblical stories and through the contemporary experiences of people. Sometimes the visions are prophetic. Sometimes they are symbolic. Some give actual physical "footage" of events which will happen. Others provide visions of possible futures, to allow people to avoid those futures, and thus injury or death.

I have experienced each one of these, personally, over 50 years and so i know that this is fact not fiction. However it is almost impossible to expect someone without similar experiences to believe, either that people experience such things, or that if they do they are anything more than symptoms of mental illness. Two things convince me.I would now be dead several times over in the last 20 years if not for direct and concrete warnings. Also, the messengers are able to make small but significant alterations within the real world. Both these alterations, and the fact that i have received warnings of dangers within my life, and visions of events about to happen, can be confirmed by independent witnesses.
northwest
There were cases where these "angels" were heard speaking something which people wouldn't understand, and it sounded like singing. Though at least in one case a human was actually taught to speak and understand that form of communication.
And it doesn't even use words.

I know what you mean, and I agree, this form of communication that they use with humans is universal and it manifests itself as any language in the world.
But that's not the form of communication I'm talking about. There is another. Like I said, it involves symbols and sounds.

The difference is because the one you are talking about manifests itself like words, actually words that can be heard, like speech.
But when they are not addressing humans, they have been heard to produce sounds which sound like singing.
And the written form seems to be composed of all kinds of geometric symbols and colors.

Mr Walker
QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 18 2007, 10:01 AM) *
There were cases where these "angels" were heard speaking something which people wouldn't understand, and it sounded like singing. Though at least in one case a human was actually taught to speak and understand that form of communication.
And it doesn't even use words.

I know what you mean, and I agree, this form of communication that they use with humans is universal and it manifests itself as any language in the world.
But that's not the form of communication I'm talking about. There is another. Like I said, it involves symbols and sounds.

The difference is because the one you are talking about manifests itself like words, actually words that can be heard, like speech.
But when they are not addressing humans, they have been heard to produce sounds which sound like singing.
And the written form seems to be composed of all kinds of geometric symbols and colors.

Ok. I guess we won't know if this was a language particular to the angels or not, but obviously they did not want the humans who heard it to understand what they were saying, or it would have translated to them. Angels are often thought of as speaking in music, which is also a form of mathematical language, so this makes sense. Some people actually see images in musical form, or hear music in visible forms. This is a recognised medical condition whose name escapes me at the moment, but it indicates that humans have potentials within them to communicate in forms of language outside of those commonly recognised.

I can not really understand why humans would need to be taught the specific language of the angels when angels can communicate pefectly well with us, but there could be a logical reason for it.
SG7
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Sep 17 2007, 07:19 PM) *
I think it is the same language. Angels don't go out and learn; russian, greek, spanish etc. They speak one language which is Universally Translated into the language of the listener. This makes sense from both a logical and scientific viewpoint and a biblical one. After all, humans all spoke one language according to the bible until god divided this into many languages at the tower of babel. For some this language may translate as music and for others symbols or images.

Angels are certainly capable of "sending" full blown images/visions into people's minds, both while they are waking and asleep. This is confirmed again through biblical stories and through the contemporary experiences of people. Sometimes the visions are prophetic. Sometimes they are symbolic. Some give actual physical "footage" of events which will happen. Others provide visions of possible futures, to allow people to avoid those futures, and thus injury or death.

I have experienced each one of these, personally, over 50 years and so i know that this is fact not fiction. However it is almost impossible to expect someone without similar experiences to believe, either that people experience such things, or that if they do they are anything more than symptoms of mental illness. Two things convince me.I would now be dead several times over in the last 20 years if not for direct and concrete warnings. Also, the messengers are able to make small but significant alterations within the real world. Both these alterations, and the fact that i have received warnings of dangers within my life, and visions of events about to happen, can be confirmed by independent witnesses.


I to have had some of those thing happen to me. But I main the language that they uses.
Kazahel
QUOTE(She-ra @ Sep 17 2007, 11:40 AM) *
Very interesting. I liked your post a lot...the "whisper" really got my attention and yes, only one "guardian" angel per person original.gif. Nice one thumbsup.gif Jody

How can you be so sure there is only one guardian though?

It's just I've seen four who I think were family.. and one who was different(but with them)who was a little nun with a big christmas star above her head. So I counted about five white lights.
Lotus Flower
"Speaking in tongues" is supposed to be the language of the Angels, I doubt there is any dictionary on it, otherwise everyone would be able to speak their language which, I think, would neutralise its power.

QUOTE(northwest @ Sep 16 2007, 06:54 PM) *
actually, it can be argued that belief in higher beings is a legitimate form of Schizophrenia


I personally believe that anyone that believes there is no-one higher or more advanced than them is a megalomaniac laugh.gif
northwest
QUOTE(Mr Walker @ Sep 18 2007, 02:27 AM) *
Ok. I guess we won't know if this was a language particular to the angels or not, but obviously they did not want the humans who heard it to understand what they were saying, or it would have translated to them. Angels are often thought of as speaking in music, which is also a form of mathematical language, so this makes sense. Some people actually see images in musical form, or hear music in visible forms. This is a recognised medical condition whose name escapes me at the moment, but it indicates that humans have potentials within them to communicate in forms of language outside of those commonly recognised.

I can not really understand why humans would need to be taught the specific language of the angels when angels can communicate pefectly well with us, but there could be a logical reason for it.


You made good point that it is not really a language of just angels. One woman said they showed here that plants can also speak to her in that way, she said
she hear a music coming from the plant (a flower) they showed here, and she could see it glow and "sing", and felt its love deep in her heart.
But that communication doesn't manifest itself in words.
Which brings us to your next question, why would humans need to learn it. Well because you can't say everything with words, you can't translate everything to words.
For example, you can't translate feelings and love to words, perhaps you can get close if you are a poet, but not as close to actually make someone feel your feeling, not in form of empathy, but in actual form of sharing a feeling.
It's just a whole new level of communication which can't be translated to words. Words are crude. And even in telepathy, you "hear" words in your head.
It's still more primitive than this "music"
You can't really translate that, you can only experience it.
That's why many humans have said that they showed them how to hear and understand that symbolic language.
northwest
QUOTE(Kazahel @ Sep 18 2007, 03:02 PM) *
How can you be so sure there is only one guardian though?

It's just I've seen four who I think were family.. and one who was different(but with them)who was a little nun with a big christmas star above her head. So I counted about five white lights.


You might say there is "at least" one, sometimes you have many "friends" when you visit the other world, entities that somehow KNOW you, which
are the ones that have observed you and helped you through your life.
Everyone that came up there, said there were some entities who were not family but he felt he knew them and they knew him and everything about him, as if
they were old friends.
northwest
QUOTE(Lotus Flower @ Sep 18 2007, 11:46 PM) *
I personally believe that anyone that believes there is no-one higher or more advanced than them is a megalomaniac laugh.gif


but that doesn't change the fact that faith can be a form of psychosis.
If faith turns out to be true, then that would not change its definition, it would only say that psychosis is not a negative thing.
And by psychosis I mean the symbol that scientist use to describe something. Not as a REAL illness of the mind.
It's just the view of psychiatry. The tags would still be there, it's just that they would mean other things.
Hope you catch my meaning.

What I'm saying is, traditional science will be traditional science. They can call a believer psychotic,
but the believer can crush the true meaning of psychosis, making the term meaningless

That's why I consider myself psychotic in traditional terms, I just don't believe in the meaning of that word in my case.

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