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Arbecht Macht Frei
I got the clancy " the bear and the dragon" yesterday and one of my idiotic friends decided to ruin the book for me and tell me what happends as i was walking away haha so i need to take it back and get another book....any suggestions along these lines...

1. alternate history of anything from the civil war up to world war two.

2.Sci-Fi/Fantasy but not space or time travel or dragons stuff, Like american gods or a book ive been contemplating reading(and tell me if you have heard anything good about it) the electric church? Or anything along those lines set in our world but not SO FAR FETCHED that it takes place on some random planet i need to learn tons of new areas all over again ha.

3. good techno military thrillers.


or any suggestions at all!please,flood me with them!

Arbecht Macht Frei
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Arbecht Macht Frei
Or any kind of books like battle royale or like the movie "smokin' aces" or whatever its called where all those mercenaries attempt to kill that magician/mob boss.
Arbecht Macht Frei
Just to help you guys seem what kinda books im looking for in the "american gods" "electric church" kinda plot and story,modern fantasy. Here is the synopsis



Somers packs his techno-thriller debut with enough gunplay and explosions to satisfy a Hollywood producer. Earth is now the System of Federated Nations, governed by the Joint Council and policed by local cops and the hard-nosed System Security Force (SSF). Most people are have-nots, struggling to get by through any means. Avery Cates is one of them, a respected 27-year-old bodyguard and assassin for hire working in Old New York


. When Avery kills a cop by mistake, SSF chief Richard Marin hauls him in and gives him two choices: execution or taking on the Herculean task of assassinating the founder of the Electric Church, which creates converts by killing people and transplanting their brains into robot bodies that quash free will. The job would be a lot easier if Avery wasn't being hunted by a couple of cops who don't know when to quit. Somers's plot sprints along through the nicely detailed (if slightly unoriginal) world, but the characters are the real prize in this entertaining near-future noir. (Sept.)
hetrodoxly
QUOTE(The Desert Fox @ Sep 19 2007, 09:13 PM) *
Just to help you guys seem what kinda books im looking for in the "american gods" "electric church" kinda plot and story,modern fantasy. Here is the synopsis
Somers packs his techno-thriller debut with enough gunplay and explosions to satisfy a Hollywood producer. Earth is now the System of Federated Nations, governed by the Joint Council and policed by local cops and the hard-nosed System Security Force (SSF). Most people are have-nots, struggling to get by through any means. Avery Cates is one of them, a respected 27-year-old bodyguard and assassin for hire working in Old New York
. When Avery kills a cop by mistake, SSF chief Richard Marin hauls him in and gives him two choices: execution or taking on the Herculean task of assassinating the founder of the Electric Church, which creates converts by killing people and transplanting their brains into robot bodies that quash free will. The job would be a lot easier if Avery wasn't being hunted by a couple of cops who don't know when to quit. Somers's plot sprints along through the nicely detailed (if slightly unoriginal) world, but the characters are the real prize in this entertaining near-future noir. (Sept.)

Bernard Cornwell's Saxon chronicle series "The Last Kingdom" "Pale Rider" and "Lords of the North" i know it's not of the period you requested, but if you like stories of war and battle you'll love these, but their much more than that, and loosely based on real events.
You'd probably like his vast "Sharp" Series of books about the peninsular wars.


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Arbecht Macht Frei
Awesome thank you,anything else?
Super Pancake
Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan

From Publishers Weekly
This fast-paced, densely textured, impressive first novel is an intriguing hybrid of William Gibson's Neuromancer and Norman Spinrad's Deus X. In the 25th century, it's difficult to die a final death. Humans are issued a cortical stack, implanted into their bodies, into which consciousness is "digitized" and from which-unless the stack is hopelessly damaged-their consciousness can be downloaded ("resleeved") with its memory intact, into a new body. While the Vatican is trying to make resleeving (at least of Catholics) illegal, centuries-old aristocrat Laurens Bancroft brings Takeshi Kovacs (an Envoy, a specially trained soldier used to being resleeved and trained to soak up clues from new environments) to Earth, where Kovacs is resleeved into a cop's body to investigate Bancroft's first mysterious, stack-damaging death. To solve the case, Kovacs must destroy his former Envoy enemies; outwit Bancroft's seductive, wily wife; dabble in United Nations politics; trust an AI that projects itself in the form of Jimi Hendrix; and deal with his growing physical and emotional attachment to Kristin Ortega, the police lieutenant who used to love the body he's been given. Kovacs rockets from the seediest hellholes on Earth, through virtual reality torture, into several gory firefights, and on to some exotic sexual escapades. Morgan's 25th-century Earth is convincing, while the questions he poses about how much Self is tied to body chemistry and how the rich believe themselves above the law are especially timely.
Copyright 2003 Reed Business Information, Inc.

wiki page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altered_Carbon

Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson

Amazon.com
From the opening line of his breakthrough cyberpunk novel Snow Crash, Neal Stephenson plunges the reader into a not-too-distant future. It is a world where the Mafia controls pizza delivery, the United States exists as a patchwork of corporate-franchise city-states, and the Internet--incarnate as the Metaverse--looks something like last year's hype would lead you to believe it should. Enter Hiro Protagonist--hacker, samurai swordsman, and pizza-delivery driver. When his best friend fries his brain on a new designer drug called Snow Crash and his beautiful, brainy ex-girlfriend asks for his help, what's a guy with a name like that to do? He rushes to the rescue. A breakneck-paced 21st-century novel, Snow Crash interweaves everything from Sumerian myth to visions of a postmodern civilization on the brink of collapse. Faster than the speed of television and a whole lot more fun, Snow Crash is the portrayal of a future that is bizarre enough to be plausible.


Cryptonomicon by Neal Stephenson

From Library Journal
Computer expert Randy Waterhouse spearheads a movement to create a safe haven for data in a world where information equals power and big business and government seek to control the flow of knowledge. His ambitions collide with a top-secret conspiracy with links to the encryption wars of World War II and his grandfather's work in preventing the Nazis from discovering that the Allies had cracked their supposedly unbreakable Enigma code. The author of Snow Crash (LJ 4/1/92) focuses his eclectic vision on a story of epic proportions, encompassing both the beginnings of information technology in the 1940s and the blossoming of the present cybertech revolution. Stephenson's freewheeling prose and ironic voice lend a sense of familiarity to a story that transcends the genre and demands a wide readership among fans of technothrillers as well as a general audience. Highly recommended.
Copyright 1999 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.



Transmetropolitan by Warren Ellis, Darick Robertson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmetropolitan



I posted this in your other thread

QUOTE(Super Pancake @ Sep 18 2007, 08:20 PM) *
Have you read "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis old book and probably hard to find. It doesn't have any real connection to WW2 but it s a story about fascism taking over America and it does predate what we known of Nazism in Germany at the time. I believe it came out in 1930.

By the way i did not read it but was recommended it cause somebody told me Bush was going to do the exact same things in the book, (not really from what I read in the book), but it might give you something about the mood of what the writer and maybe U.S.A was thinking about the govt and other issues before WW2.


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Arbecht Macht Frei
that sounds awesome,any ummm more books along those lines? keep em comin please!
karl 12
QUOTE(The Desert Fox @ Sep 19 2007, 10:24 PM) *
that sounds awesome,any ummm more books along those lines? keep em comin please!


Heres some good ones:

Imajica - Clive Barker
Salt -Adam Roberts
The life of Pye -Yann Martell
The Crysalids-John Wyndam
Ghostwritten / Cloud Atlas -David Mitchell
The Player of Games -Ian M Banks
Flowers for Algernon -Daniel Keyes
my_psychosis
Well it doesn't actually go with your criteria but it is by far one of the best books I've ever read. IMO

By the light of the moon.

Author of one #1 The New York Times bestseller after another, Koontz is at the pinnacle of his powers, spinning mysteries and miracles, enthralling tales that speak directly to today’s readers, balm for the heart and fire for the mind. In this stunning new novel, he delivers a tour de force of dark suspense and brilliant revelation that has all the Koontz trademarks: adventure, chills, riddles, humor, heartbreak, an unforgettable cast of characters, and a climax that will leave you clamoring for more.

Dylan O’Connor is a gifted young artist just trying to do the right thing in life. He’s on his way to an arts festival in Santa Fe when he stops to get a room for himself and his twenty-year-old autistic brother, Shep. But in a nightmarish instant, Dylan is attacked by a mysterious “doctor,” injected with a strange substance, and told that he is now a carrier of something that will either kill him...or transform his life in the most remarkable way. Then he is told that he must flee—before the doctor’s enemies hunt him down for the secret circulating through his body. No one can help him, the doctor says, not even the police.

Stunned, disbelieving, Dylan is turned loose to run for his life...and straight into an adventure that will turn the next twenty-four hours into an odyssey of terror, mystery—and wondrous discovery. It is a journey that begins when Dylan and Shep’s path intersects with that of Jillian Jackson. Before that evening Jilly was a beautiful comedian whose biggest worry was whether she would ever find a decent man. Now she too is a carrier. And even as Dylan tries to convince her that they’ll be safer sticking together, cold-eyed men in a threatening pack of black Suburbans approach, only seconds before Jilly’s classic Coupe DeVille explodes into thin air.

Now the three are on the run together, but with no idea whom they’re running from—or why. Meanwhile Shep has begun exhibiting increasingly disturbing behavior. And whatever it is that’s coursing through their bodies seems to have plunged them into one waking nightmare after another. Seized by sinister premonitions, they find themselves inexplicably drawn to crime scenes—just minutes before the crimes take place.

What this unfathomable power is, how they can use it to stop the evil erupting all around them, and why they have been chosen are only parts of a puzzle that reaches back into the tragic past and the dark secrets they all share: secrets of madness, pain, and untimely death. Perhaps the answer lies in the eerie, enigmatic messages that Shep, with precious time running out, begins to repeat, about an entity who does his work “by the light of the moon.”

BY THE LIGHT OF THE MOON is a novel of heart-stopping suspense and transcendent beauty, of how evil can destroy us and love can redeem us—a masterwork of the imagination in which the surprises come page after page and the spell of sublime storytelling triumphs throughout.
shadowfrostt
Oooh!! Flowers for Algernon is great! If it comes down to it and you can't find anything else, I always head for Greek or Norse mythology. Preferably Norse. Otherwise, your tastes in books appear to be totally different from mine, so I'll leave it at that unless you ask. ^^
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