QUOTE(Strange F8 @ Oct 5 2007, 08:47 PM)
For the record and any other curious souls, Strange F8 refers to the idea that truth is stranger than fiction and so whatever fate (F8) may befall, it will be most likely very strange.
While I agree that much of today's sightings may be secret tech, as I have stated before, that cannot account for those sightings that have occured throughout human history.
However niether does ET account for every sighting. That's why I'd like to hear some real thoughts/opinions otherwise. Thank you for your honest response to my inquiry.
Wouldn't it be hilaroius to find out that some movie like Mars Attacks or Spaced Invaders had it right by accident - that ET is, apart from being tech advanced, really rather stupid and that's why they don't make contact. (but that's just a few beers talkin) Maybe instead of quacks we should listen for moo? (just kidding).
I myself have seen something strange but I'm not sure if it was ET, meteor or satellite. Just a light with a tail that seemed move too quick for a plane and too far across the sky to be a meteor.
I can't wait to hear from others about their ideas...
Here's one of my good ones, the thing that overflew every week. It was black, and had five lights arranged equidistant on the leading edges of the wings (?). It was more or less triangular in shape, smaller than a commercial jet, larger than a corporate jet. The flight path was approximately 1200 ft altitude, absolute, or about 200 ft above my house. Speed was 35-40 mph (a bit less than 33kt), slower than the traffic on the through street below my house. There was little noise, best described as a muted dull roar, quiet enough that if you didn't know it was there you'd likely miss the sound. First time I saw it was because of the lights, not the sound. One could, I suppose, call this thing ET, but somehow I don't think ET would drive down the same street consistently, week after week, as if on a schedule. This one I chalk up to our own technology; what that is, I'd really like to know, because I suspect that some of the antics Sky speaks of could be performed by such a craft, if they use what I think they use. No further comment.
A globe of unknown diameter, I suspect about 30 ft or so, spherical as nearly as I could tell, flew over Great Falls MT in 1964. Things were a little mixed up then, so I don't remember the exact date, but I think it was October. Time was about 9:30 pm, and the thing was soundless, glowing almost as a fluorescent light, and had a westerly course from Malmstrom AFB. Four F4 Phantoms followed the globe but it accelerated to a speed the F4s couldn't possibly match. What was that? Well, the Phantom was our premier fighter at the time, and a few other planes were faster than the F4 on afterburner, but those were naturally classified. The F4 could go around 1400, and those guys were giving it all they had but couldn't catch the thing, so I'll guess it was ET.
What do these things use for power? Here are some suppositions. There has been much research into the nuclear aspects of power generation, but since these require large amounts of shielding, they aren't in the running. Let's suppose Dirac is right. Suppose there is a sea of incoherent energy that is ubiquitous, and all that needs to be done is to orthorotate the energy to form an unlimited source. This energy would be freely available regardless of universal position, and a vehicle would need only the means to tap that energy. [This is NOT an unsupported speculation; there is much evidence that the Dirac sea exists, and some theorists contend that permanent magnets utilize that energy to maintain their state. Including myself.] Suppose that some civilization, ourselves included, learned to tap this unlimited energy. Suppose that civilization also, through their knowledge of physics and non-physics, knows that the wave/particle duo is in fact either or both at any instant. Suppose that all fields are merely different manifestations of the same things, as all physical elements are composed of the same particles. Suppose that quantum physics shows that the Clark idea of 'massless particles' is true, and mass is nothing other than 'sticky energy', as many now believe, and the stickiness is due to the binding energy.
Let's grok this (grok = understand the spirit of it) set. No mass is equivalent to stating that lightspeed can be exceeded by nullification of the mass properties. While this may require large amounts of energy, that's not a problem for a people that can convert the Dirac sea. Distance, therefore, is not a factor. What happens with an extremely powerful electromagnet? The thing seems to shimmer a bit, waver, or not be quite solid (I have seen this a lot in my field, dealing with powerful magnets). For instance, to magnetize samarium cobalt or neodymium, very potent fields must be applied. This is done (usually) by charging a large capacitor bank to several hundred volts, then discharging this power through a one or two turn coil on a spindle in which the samarium is immersed. When you watch this thing fire, the entire area near the core seems to shiver and bend for the instant that the field exists (a fraction of a second).
Let's assume, for a time, that the fields that make the universe can be manipulated (no reason to think they can't since we control individual fields) such that mass can be made to appear as a blob of energy, with no fixed form, but at the same time consists of the material (now a form of massless energy, perhaps wave energy, but coherent). Since this blob is massless, it has no inertia (at least not the kind we know of in public circles), and could feasibly be accelerated quickly, almost instantaneously to extreme velocities. It could change direction instantly without adverse reaction. In other words, it could and would disobey all the standard laws by which we normally abide. It could use gravity as a thrust device, or even the flow of the Dirac sea, and so wouldn't need "engines" as we know them.
If the beings (quite possibly us) in such vehicles were also transformed into this form, there would be no adverse effects from inertia either.
Let's posit one more thing. Let's say that a device could be built which would manufacture an intense electric (therefore magnetic) field, a field so powerful that it isolated the object from mass, energy flow, time, and so on. Wouldn't such a device be capable of the activities mentioned above? If a device is isolated from the universe, then it might also be isolated from the same "laws" we put so much faith in, might it not?
These little technological mentioned above are not fiction. A tremendous amount of research has been done regarding fields and field interaction. There are still unknowns (to me, not necessarily to everyone), but there are some things that do indicate someone knows something. For these reasons, I state that many UFOs are human items, NOT ALL, but many. Since the sightings go way back, my inclination is to think that it's probably part us/part ET at this time.
Regarding the theories above, by the way, in my researches into magnetics, I've seen some things happen that indicate what was stated as possible might well be true. I have neither the facilities nor the time to go deeply into the matter (though I'd like to), so I limit myself to what I can accomplish in the field. Now, I've had some discussions with others on these forums, and some think I'm nuts. I'd like to say, however, that when pressed for answers, they have none, and resort to name calling, questioning qualifications, and so forth. So if you're one of those, and you want to argue, prepare yourself for some interesting questions that demand good answers (not some sleazy mathematical thesis, either).
