I'd personally like to see a Paranormal t.v. show with absolutely no drama! No psychics on board to dramatize every fart aching thing they think is paranormal! No explaining why people are leaving groups because of relationships or not getting along with other group members etc;

I'd like to see a cut and dry t.v. series that focuses on the real thing. Entertainment is ruining the reputation and discrediting the field for its routine drama, creepy music and screaming. But I don't think that would ever happen thanks to politics who run these entertainment companies.

I just don't think anyone would watch it for very long.

As long as there are people on the show, I doubt your dream will ever become a reality. Besides if a person has to leave because of personal problems within the team is that not a good thing? They would prove a detriment to the others with the bickering and such had they stayed.

I happen to agree what i hate is the show's that alway's explain why there can't be a ghost.....

Yeah, like why do they even show that? Why not just keep at it until they actually ahve something to show the viewers?

Why do that? Atleast when they show the one's where it's not a ghost and explain why and show people what it is or could have been otherwise they're atleast putting some logic into it. As in they don't just automatically believe it is a ghost and let thier opinion get swayed. To many people do that already when it could have been something else and they won't believe anything other then what they think.

Atleast by showing what it could have been other then a ghost, hopefully that'll force some people to calm themselves down and take a step back and look at thier "haunting" with a scientific mind first. Then if all else fails and your walls keep bleeding green ooze, then you can call TAPS.

I don't mind it so much--save in the case of Most Haunted. Psychics blowing their absurd BS. Drives me crazy--especially the host. She overacts at the slightest creek ... and that incessant "What was that? Did you hear that?" I won't even touch those asinine sayances. Ugh!

TAPS ... I enjoy that show. At least their trying to debunk and seriously investigate the paranormal. Yes, a little drama, but nothing like MH et al.

Most Farted (Most Haunted Spoof)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuX8gtYzcj0

Sean

I like TAPS ( a.k.a. ghost hunters ) don't get me wrong. I enjoy the show. But everyone forgets they are on t.v. and they aren't everything. A lot of groups seem to follow them to a tee. I met them in person back in March at the Houghton Mansion event in North Adams, MA. I met Steve, Jason and Grant. I got the chance to investigate with all 3 of them in the Houghton Mansion. I like Steve the most because he is open to listening to what others have to say. I got the opportunity to investigate with him and shoot theories back and forth. He is a very down to earth person. they've accomplished a couple of huge things like getting more people open minded and believing in the paranormal by having their investigations shown on t.v.

They've also gotten the media interested more on t.v. and other media such as radio etc; There's quite a few paranormal shows out there now, thanks to TAPS. However, as much good they have done for the field, there is also much negative they have produced. With the added drama and the creepy music... it has made it more difficult to present hard evidence for those who are not on t.v. Another negative is when they created their TAPS Family Circle. Because there is so many groups out there, a lot of them don't make the cut to apply to be a Family Member. Because of that it has stemmed off a lot of animosity, and jealousy in many groups. But I try and keep reminding people TAPS is on t.v. How do we know how much is real and what isn't? We are only shown bits and pieces of stuff. Ofcourse its edited to death. They cut out hours of set up time, what it takes to be a member, how to really investigate etc; There's a lot missing. There's a lot more involved in this field. It seems they stick to one kind of routine and never try experimentation of trying out different theories. With the exception of the K-2 Meter and Thermal Imaging Camera that nobody can afford, what are they contributing to the field? Its nice they help people and families, but that's it. Are they honestly contributing to the field? Sure, they perform lectures, and conferences, but that's more for fans to attend and a way of marketing their firm.

LIGHT takes risks and experiments with the hundreds of theories on the table in our investigations. We try out different methods in each investigation. We find out what works and what doesn't work. We are also trying to narrow down the theories and wha remains to be true with these theories.

I'm not saying we are the best group ever, but what Iam saying is that TAPS isn't everything. I'm not bad mouthing them at all because I have worked with them before and I like all of them very much, but regarding the field itself, it needs much more contribution.

I just watched TAPs for the first time here in the UK last week (the one at the Bird Cage Saloon). I loved it, they had some great auditory evidence and also some video of a cable moving. I was impressed, I thought they presented their evidence in a solid manner and I'm looking forward to the next episode. Being brand new to TAPs, I don't understand the family stuff you're talking about so I can't comment (I'm sure it will become clear at some point of viewing).

We've had Most Haunted on over here for years and get where you're coming from with the drama - I'm sick to the back teeth of that show now. It's dreadful and I don't trust them as far as I can throw them.

There are a number of new ghost shows starting this fall. Hopefully they will be interesting.

I loved that spoof! Who was the lead investigator? The guy that plays in house, I can never remember his name for some reason.

well considering these shows never find ghosts you would be left with nothing

who would watch a show about nothing?

o seinfeld right

Seinfeld isn't all that bad.

But back onto the subject at hand. I think that shows like TAPS are the way to go, where they are trying to disprove any evidence of a haunting. The reason for this is because if you go into an investigation under the premise that you're searching for something paranormal, your mind tends to misinterpret a lot of things and, in essence, you're jumping at things that aren't there.

But stuff like Most Haunted etcetera etcetera... are just getting to be boring.

His name is Hugh Laurie, AD. He's great isn't he?! Terrific actor!

Sean

I'll drink to that! Well,...to be honest, I'd probably drink anyway

Most Haunted is silly and I cannot take any of them seriously. I like the Ghost Hunters show but like my neighbour on here, haven't had the opportunity to follow from the infancy. I did read about a lot of it though. Drama: Some waffle named Brian had a girl that threw wobblers, called him every ten minutes and made him leave the show due to jealousy issues. When he finally left the bint and came back, he was demoted and lost everyone's trust. Fast forward to the next season: The lot of them are a big loving family once again and Brian just had a baby girl with someone new. Am I close? Or is there more?

And of course we all remember Brian's wonderful little catchphrase...

"Dude, Run!". Words of a true ghost hunter

How could I have left that out?? Ha! And that is probably his proudest moment on the show too! He is such a cabbage!

There's a couple of phrases you will hear over and over.....( did you hear that) (i swear that wasn't me) (EVP stands for) ( 1.2 1.6 2.6 3.0 dude)
I love the show and the drama, its like my own soap opera, i must say that they have caught some things that were a little weird but all in all its allot better then the other fake shows, i mean come on, how many times has Steve or Brian been possessed and starting speaking as someone who was deceased...

Yes! I have learned a lot about American speech from that show. If I swear, "I swear to God" and one must say "dude" at the beginning and or end of each sentence. But, those are also the things that make the show endearing and likable for me, as I am not used to hearing those phrases.

You know what's sad? I didn't realize that American speech (as oppossed to different slang words here and there) was so different to someone else. But then again, I probably wouldn't, same thing with how I don't view myself as having an accent, or having a flat accent.

Speech=Slang. Which is an example in itself!!

Don't forget you too can buy your "Dude Run" T-shirt on the TAPS Online Store! LOL... Now he has his own TAG LINE on t-Shirts! Hahaha

I just don't see the show lasting very long if they are going to stick to the same routine over and over. In order for it to stay fresh, they need to experiment with different theories and methods. Its funny watching Brian screw up, and watching Steve fall inlove with the next hot looking newest female group member LOL... But you can only investigate so many places, and eventually where are they going to investigate? I'm just afraid the same routine will hurt their ratings... It's good they keep signing on for new seasons. But only time will tell.

I have a great idea... why not have a network created just strictly for the Paranormal? Discovery has a channel for every subject, history, science, aninmals... why not have Paranormal T.V.? There's plenty of areas to cover!?

Start putting a proposal together. You've nothing to lose!

Most Haunted is a show full of dead beats...lol.

Jesus Christ, I know! On ghost hunters there is always the scary music and such. You can't hear anything over it!

derek accorah (sp?) kills me

he is an absolute farce.. someone who "claims" to be a phsychic should not be so easily overwhelmed as he is..

a lot of drivel and b grade overacting

I have seriously got to start watching ghost hunters now. Apparently it's the most hated show ever. o_0

Most hated? No that should go to Most Haunted. I like Ghost Hunters and the fact that they try to find "other" explanations for the weird freaky noises that scare the occupants. And 9 times out of 10 they do, good for them, in my mind it legitamizes them and what they are trying to do. Now the other "1" is the good stuff. I really felt for poor Frank the sound man when he was flattened. If you notice in the credits (yes I look at stuff like that. ) he was absent for like the rest of the season after that event (I have the first and second seasons on dvd), it really looks like it shook him up good.

Whoops I think I was thinking of Most Haunted. Whenever I think of Ghost Hunters I can only remember it as the 'Taps show', lol. I keep forgetting the actual name of the show.

Personally, I only watch Ghost Hunters. I can't stand reality tv otherwise. I think that if there wasn't any drama on these shows...then they wouldn't last long at all. They'd get pulled faster than they got on the air.

100% agree! I love it when they have "paranormal investigators" who walk through a building at night or whatever.. and at the slightest inkling of anything unusual (goaded by the fact that they are all egging eachother on) they jump to the paranormal explanation..

Investigator 1: Ok.. we're just going through a building here & entering a room.
Investigator 2: OMG it feels a bit cooler in here!
Investigator 3: I feel it too! OMG this is creepy
Investigator 1: I think it's a ghost!
Investigator 2: Me too!
Investigator 3: ME TOO!!!
[Cut scene to interview of investigator 1]
Investigator 1: Well it was obvious to all of us that the drop in temperature was due to a ghost.. probably a powerful one.. maybe female.. with 1 leg... that much was definetly obvious

*me sitting at home* WTF!!!!!!!!

I also like ghost hunters, but the thing I dislike about their investigations (not really their fault) is the lack of time to investigate. There is far greater chance to find something for more than 1 night, which would really help them in their decisions whether a place is really haunted or not.

As I said, I don't think it's their fault mainly because they do have their own lives to attend to, unlike other investigators which live off of investigating.
But by far, ghost hunters has been my favorite and the most reliable that have been shown on tv

That's true. Ten hours of tape to go through wouldn't necessarily provide what 48 hours might reveal.

GH is often on location for days. Or make several return visits.

When you have a 1 hour show you only get aout 40 minutes of show time. The rest is commercials (time it - you'll see!). Even less if they do two investigations in one show. Then you get only about 20 minutes each.

You can't show everything from a 15 hour investigation in 20 or 40 minutes. Something has to be cut.

I understand that. Trust- Commercials annoy me to no end! (I am an impatient little girl). What I was saying is that on the show, they have said things like "we have 10 hours of DVR", "15 hours of audio", etc.. I was only agreeing that if their investigation was for that amount of time (the 10 hours, etc. that is implied), then it seems more beneficial if they stayed longer. (I hope that makes sense... It is getting late here, long day! LOL).

Hehehehe....I think you misunderstand it when they say "15 hours of..." etc etc.

You can very easily have 20+ hours of video, audio etc. from just one night's investigation.

On a typical all night indoor investigation we'll run 4 DVR cameras, 2 or 3 Hi8/MiniDV/or HD cameras, at least 6 digital audio recorders and 2 cassette recorders.

So on a "mere" 6 hour investigation we have:

24 hours of DVR video
12-18 hours of Hi8/MiniDV/HD video
36+ hours of digital audio
4-6+ hours of audio cassette.

That's how it adds up.

Then real work starts - Someone has to watch all that video and listen to all that audio!

I guessed in the future they will develop a video camera that makes a TAB if the camera sense something on infra red.

Already here.

Take look at Cabelas and other hunting catalogs. They have automatic cameras (digital and film) that sense movement via IR and take pics or even video. My in-laws have on their land upstate where deer, bears and even bobcats venture. Very cool!

The only question is: Would a ghost set off an IR sensor?

Ehhh!!!...that's a big question !
If not...we can't use infra red for ghost hunting.

Sure we can.

IR as a light source is different than IR as a sensor.

IR sensors detect motion by other a) sending out a beam that reflects back when something moves through it (like doppler radar), or, it takes a heat "picture" of it's field of view and when a heat source comes through and changes that "picture" it interprets it as movement and goes off.

In case A the question is would an entity be able to reflect IR energy? That would require an entity to have a reflective surface which in turn means it has to have mass.

In case B is an entity hot enough to be sensed? There are more indications of entities being extremely cold than hot.

Oooooh. I did misunderstand. I thought it reflected the hours spent there. How awful! Poor thing. You must be utterly exhausted afterward. And then having all of that to review... Thank you (all investigators) for your efforts. Wow!

Does it trigger my alarm at home if ghost are present?

Can we use remote control of our TV to detect ghost in the dark?

I don't have an IR alarm so I can't say. An educated guess would be NO since if ghosts could set them off then there would be many many more reports of ghosts causing false alarms at museums, historical sites, funeral homes etc etc etc.




You need a much brighter IR light source and a camera that can see IR.

Agreed, the producers of these so called "Ghost Hunting" shows focus mostly on the people getting frightened to death rather than focusing on trying to find/photograph/videotape the actual entities residing within. Its like you basically watch the show to see people scream about tiny little squeeks in the floorboards in supposed "haunted rooms" which hardly proves anything in the first place.