Hello Everyone!!!

I am asking for your collective help. I have had the honor and privilege of receiving messages from the beyond from a psychic's standpoint, and now I would like to expand my knowledge and use a more tangible source of proving what I already know to be true.

I am familiar with the use of a recorder to pick up voices that are not normally heard by the human ear. My question is, the recorder I am using is voice activated. Do I initiate the recorder first and let the tape run or do I set it up to see if anyone activates it? It seems to me that if the voices can't be picked up by the human ear, then a recording device would have to be initiated first, and then be allowed to run, in order to capture evidence of this phenomenon.

So which do I do? Do I initiate or not?

Thanks ( in advance )

TB

I would suggest you just place the recorder in vox mode and if it does not activate, then initiate it yourself. There should be no need to hide the instrument. I once left an old panasonic desk type recorder going with a remote mic. Something was plainly heard approaching it, then tapping several times on the microphone. In other words, stealth is not an issue the the spiritual world.

I have seen both modes used (VOX or always on).

My personal opinion is that with the newer digital recorders able to record days worth of audio, I would lean towards leaving the recorder in the always on recording position in the off chance that it might capture something that would otherwise be too sensitive to be triggered by the VOX function.

I have also seen people prefer digital recorders and some people prefer magnetic tape type recorders...'

For quality it seems that digital would be far greater, but there is probably a lot more to it than I understand.

I would suggest you try every method you can think of and then tell US the best way. Good luck and DO let us know!

Thanks to all that have replied to me thus far. I am actually running two types of recorder, both with voice activation. An EP (Extended Play) cassette and a Digital Recorder. I don't see the need in hiding them either. Quite the contrary, I feel that if I leave them in a location with little or no barriers, that the sound clarity should be better. At least this is my theory. Luckily enough I have friend that work in the A/V field so he will be able to authenticate and perhaps "clear up" so-so recordings. I am very anxious and/or excited about this undertaking. The nearest Paranormal Institutes to me are more than an hour Car ride from me and it would not always be feasible for me to go out on these searches. So right now I am just a party of 1. I believe that will change in the future. But the way I see it, I have to start somewhere. Already having a Paranormal background, I believe gives me an advantage. I can keep an open mind, as well as, a healthy sense of skepticism. I know that these entities exist. I hear them and at times see them. It will be great to have hard evidence to back up what I know to be true.

Thanks again for your input thus far

TruBeliever

Yes, try any method possible. That is how an investigator usually uses their equipment. They will experiment with different methods and try what works, and what doesn't work. In the paranormal field, its all mainly trial and error and based upon hundreds of theories. I enjoy my line of work more by testing the field with theories and experiments with as many different techniques and methods possible. Its more fun and gives evidence more credibility.

As far as trying out different recorders, yes, that is a preference. I noticed the more experienced lean towards cassette tape, and the less experienced use digital. But not always... its just preference. Sometimes what we do is place several different types of recorders all around. Digital, and cassette but different types and brands. Me personally, I don't think it will matter what you use. A spirit will decide where it wants to make itself known and where it wants to communicate. Because in our investigations, one recorder will pick up an EVP and the other in the same room won't. I think it depends more on the location of the spirit and energy level it has to communicate.

Great points, thank you!!! I believe the cassette recorder will prove to be of great value because it runs off of a direct current. From my limited experience I have found that when battery operated machines are used that when an entity is present, there is a drain on the batteries. I just thought that using a device that didn't depend on batteries would help circumnavigate this happening.

TruBeliever

Digital recorders have significant advantages over cassette recorders.

For one thing no moving parts. That means you can't accidentally pickup the mechanical sounds and confuse it with an EVP or have it contaminate the recording.

For another, you get far more recording time on a digital than a cassette (hours vs. minutes).

With no tape there's no issues of a flaw in the tape media or a problem with the cassette.

Digital recorders are smaller, ligher, easier to carry.

Some digital recorders have on/off timers which is really good for leaving one in a spot over night.

And many digital recorders have USB ports making it very simple to download the audio to a PC for review and analysis.

While both cassette and digital are affective I'd go for the digital instead.

I would also suggest running the digital recorder at the highest quality settings. This may reduce the overall record time available but it's worth it.

Thanks for the information. I truly appreciate it

TruBeliever

Just a suggestion, don't use extended play because it stretches the tape so you may not get the best recording. Do evps in standard speed with an audio cassette recorder & use 90 min tapes.

Good Point!!! I never thought of that. I never gave thought to the distortion factor of Extended Play. It is better to have shorter, more clear tapings than longer distorted one's that may be misconstrued as true EVP.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

Absolutely, also keep in mind what MasterPo said that when reviewing the evidence on audio cassette you might hear the mechanism of the tape recorder on the tape itself so don't confuse that with something paranormal.

Correct. I used a Digital Voice Recorder during my haunting and I would hear the most horrid voice say my name etc, but, out of the blue it would delete the message itself, or batteries would die in minutes. I would say direct current is the way to go as well.JN

Correct. I used a Digital Voice Recorder during my haunting and I would hear the most horrid voice say my name etc, but, out of the blue it would delete the message itself, or batteries would die in minutes. I would say direct current is the way to go as well.JN

Oh no!!! That would have made my heart sink, I think. To have captured something I know I heard only to have it be zapped out of existence. Were you ever able to recreate the event and gain an EVP from the entity?

I am getting all prepared to do this and start my investigation during the Full Moon following the Autumnal Equinox. which is the 26th of this month. This may or may not make any difference, in my investigation, I just want to take advantage of any event that will aid me in reaching my desired goal.

Thank you for your insight!

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

OMG What was happening was a haunting and I knew it, due to lots of white noise on my digital clock radio, and woke us all up at night. I decided to simply record it, and see who it was. When it said my name, I threw it on the floor and ran out (like that helped)..I got upstairs and saved it for my son to hear, and next thing I heard BEEP, it read "delete" and it was on the coffee table. Of course being the curious one I was, I tried again next night and only recorded for 3 minutes cause I could hear the voice myself. It mentioned my brother, my son, and then started lots of profanity, and GET THE .F OUT..Fotunately before I "saved" I called some friends and played it for them and they heard it. I was thinking I was pretty cool hearing from a dead person and very proud of myself, till things turned dangerous, physical and a few years of Hell. Turned out to be a Demonic and took one team of Paranormal Investigators and two visits from a Religious Demonologist to banish it and bless everything in this place. I never ever want to go thru anything like that again. Curiosity and recording, gave it power and acknowledgement, and it fed off my fear, anxiety and ultimately sleep deprivation. Its gone now and I have not recorded another thing since. The Demonologist knew what it was during our first phone interview because IT talked to him, but I didnt hear it. Such horror should never be experienced to any human being. JN

I do not blame you for not wanting to repeat the experience. One of those in a lifetime is more than enough in my book

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

I think if one places a recorder strategically, that you might be surprized what you hear, whether your home is noticably haunted or not. There is activity all around us, 24/7. I've picked up good EVPs just interviewing a subject by candlelight. I have placed recorders in empty rooms for a few hours and have picked up strange and unexplainable noises. I had someting actually walk up and tap on the remote mic, once. That was freaky deaky man! ~Jackal

Well we shall know after tomorrow night. Like I said earlier on, it is the full moon after the Autumnal Equinox, and I am getting my equipment ready. New batteries, of the device that needs it, clean, unused tapes are in place, and locations have been decided on. So we shall see. I have already researched the history of my small, country cottage. It was built in 1922 by a sisters in order that they may live on adjoining property. I think it is fascinated, from a fate standpoint, that I live in this house, because my eldest sister lives at the property adjacent to mine. It is kind of like life repeating itself. The one sister lived here for 48 years, never married and took care of her sister when she fell ill. Now is where it gets sketchy. People remember the sisters living here, but they do not remember anything about their deaths. It is almost like they were here, and then they weren't.

Another person bought this house in 1972, as a business venture. It was rented several times, but the last time was to a person that the neighborhood seemed to be somewhat afraid of. Not that he was proven violent or anything, but that he just had a reclusive nature and how neighborhood animals seemed to disappear whenever they neared this property. He was eventually forced to move by a neighborhood petition (when told this story I envisioned villagers with torches and pitchforks...lol). When I did a public records search, it seemed that different rites, reported by the neighborhood, were performed here by him and there were several calls for public indecency. He was reported to be found dancing naked around a bonfire in the backyard. A year and half later I purchased the home, in attempts to get out of the big city and reside in a more peaceful community.

I had not had any activity that I would necessarily consider evil or problematic, until recently, just the usual bumps in the night, which I contributed to the fact that it was a 75 year old home, and old homes makes odd sounds. Then there were incidence of figurines being turned over or upside-down. But, I do have cats that often time like to walk on the bookshelves. Everything had a plausible explanation until about 1 1/2 weeks ago.

I was coming out of my bathroom, and the only way I can describe it was I felt like I was being pushed at my chest, and I fell backwards over the edge of my bathtub. I dismissed it at first, because my bathroom is rather small, and I thought I must have just hit a slick spot on the floor. It wasn't until I found a bruise in the center of my chest that I began to question. I remind you at this point, I fell backwards. Given the fact that I have been conduit/sensitive (with some limited psychic ability) every since I was a small child, I am not scared. But it has definately, at this point, gotten my attention.

Thanks to all for your help and insight. I just thought I would take the time to give you the reason behind the desire to conduct the experiment.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

TrueBeleiver Go to www.aaevp.com...it will show you how to use a voice active recorder. The light should come on even during an evp...aaevp members even shows you how in the whitenoise movie bonus.

Thanks Veliska,

I am going to do a lot more research before going into this haphazardly. But that is just me...details, details, details. I am the type that has to have all bases covered before making a step. A little ( or alot ) OCD, some would say. LOL

Blessed Be
TruBeliever

Its always good to do your research first. I would love to hear how it went! I hope all goes well..

Veliska,

If I do further my investigation, I will surely post the findings here. I have decided that this is something that I need not go into alone. The fact that I felt pushed when I fell into the bath tub, shows me that whatever it is, it has a tendency not to be too friendly. I am now working on getting a full team and support. I do not want to repeat the experience of years passed.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

Very good decision TB...JN-

Okay. I am glad that you didn't get hurt when you got pushed. That spirit definatley had alot of energy. Be careful since you are going to do it alone. Well you did say you were getting a team up...so you wouldn't be to alone. Unless I misunderstood. Good Luck

No, I decided alone wouldn't be the most ideal situation

TruBeliever

Okay that is a good idea. Until you do your investigation, if you have a tape recorder just sit it in a room where you have had most of your experiances. Heck you can even leave it there while you go out to run errons. If you would rather wait I understand. I am getting a little anxious (sorry)

V,

It is funny that you should mention running the recorders while I was running errands. At the beginning of each other I go to help my elderly mother, grocery shopping, bill paying etc. This month I am going to spend a couple of days with her. I have already made arrangements for my animals to be elsewhere. I thought I would run the camera and the recorders just to see if anything was picked up. I will be doing this the 3 and 4th of Oct. I was actually contemplating doing this, and I am taking your "vocalized" response as a sign that it would be a good idea.

Thanks,

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

Goodie! Because I am excited to know what happens.....

I promise, you will be among the first!!!


Tru

oh Gee Golly

The idea of using a recorder in VOR mode is based on the their that an entity somehow interacts directly with the recording circutry. Maybe it interacts with the electromagnet inside the mic.

But if that's not how EVPs are formed, or at least not all EVPs, then you might be missing some.

Some people think EVPs are infrasound - very very low frequency sound.

TB? NO recorders and NO cameras even if the house is empty, dont open that door again, please???

So are you suggesting that when I am indeed ready to have this place investigated that I use a play a low frequency recording?

Tru

JN,

Trust me when I say I am taking all measures of precaution. I am not going to attempt anything by myself. If there is, indeed, something negative here, then I believe the activity will only continue to increase.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

"I was coming out of my bathroom, and the only way I can describe it was I felt like I was being pushed at my chest, and I fell backwards over the edge of my bathtub. I dismissed it at first, because my bathroom is rather small, and I thought I must have just hit a slick spot on the floor. It wasn't until I found a bruise in the center of my chest that I began to question. I remind you at this point, I fell backwards. Given the fact that I have been conduit/sensitive (with some limited psychic ability) every since I was a small child, I am not scared. But it has definitely, at this point, gotten my attention."

Please forgive me TB but assuming your right and you didn't lose your footing, someone is most definitely trying to get your attention and regardless of how you feel, I'm with Just Normal here, the event in your bathroom looks like fighting talk to me. I must say I'm a little edgy about this.
Extreme caution my friend.

Encounter85

Hi again TB, it has already pushed you and now escalating so of course its negative, and dangerous. I suggest you have nothing to do with the investigation except be there, and let the proper people perform the investigation, and you already know, once they do and leave, this entity will be ticked and get more violent. If you need help beyond that, let me know ok? Bless..JN

Thanks Encounter, and I am edgy too. But people have to do what they choose in order to get to the source but considering what he has been thru (and me too) I wouldnt dare to bring people in, other than clergy or a Demonologist, which is what I used, and after 2 visits, thank God it is gone. Any further activity and I know what to do, who to call and what not to do, and involving myself in an investigation is something I would never consider. But TB knows what he has to do, and I pray he stays safe..JN

If I may just give some advice...

EVP work is similar to conjuring, or provoking spirits. Your opening a doorway for them to communicate. Nobody knows how to close the door after it has been opened. So when doing EVP work, we give spirits the utmost respect as possible. Treat them as if they are still alive. They were once a person just like you and I. You just don't know what will be entering through that doorway we open. We go into each investigation with a positive attitude. We motivate spirits in the most positive fashion. Whether it be playing music from their time period, or asking them if they'd like a cup of tea, or coffee. Sounds silly, but believe it or not you will get results. Spiritually protect yourself before, during and after any investigation you conduct. ( ward off those evil or unwelcomed spirits )

We also tell them to stay where they are when we are finished. We think its possible spirits can follow you. We have had some group members including myself have our own homes get active after visiting some locations. I've also had a weird experience after investigating a couple of places I have been to that I cannot explain. It took me a long time to get over it too. It was a battle. so its best to give spirits th erespect they deserve. Besides, I also think they are much more intelligent than people truly think.

To ALL who have voiced concern,

I have stated earlier that I do feel the activity in my home escalating. I know that it is something I can't face alone. I must agree with you guys that I should only be here as any other client would be in an investigation, and NOT take an active part. I am sure you can see though were the paranormalist in me wants to get right in there, with sleeves rolled up and take a more active role. I know that it isn't a good idea for me to do so. I have already contacted members of my clergy. They are supposed to be out here as soon as the rest of the team is collected. I look to have contact with them by early Sunday morning.

Rest asssured this is NOT my first time at the rodeo, both as an investigator and as a victim. I have been preparing myself spiritually every since I was pushed. Like you, I thought at first I had lost footing, I thought this because I am somewhat a klutz in the house in every room BUT the kitchen, ( thank God for that) but when I saw the bruising and redness to my chest and considering I fell backwards, I knew it was more than just simple case of stumbling over two left feet.

Thank you for your voices of concern and reason!!! All is truly appreciated.

JN, I will let you know if anything transpires after this all takes place. Thanks again

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

I agree Pluto, but we are talking malevolent or demonics in this situation, and I think anyone who lives in that house should not participate. If the investigators decided to do an EVP then they can, however with that said, I have never heard of one EVP where the disembodied voice told who they were, or what they wanted. So you are right, it is a form of provoking. If it should be a Demonic, they disguise themselves anyway, so why bother? I think EVP's are great in buildings, and anywhere outside but not in someone's home, as that opens up the gateway. From what I know, human spirits dont follow investigators home, yet its possible Demonics do, as they can perform hauntings in numerous locations, known as bilocation. Mediums have ended up with Demonics following them home as well, and trust me, it is no easier for them, than any of us to cast them out. As far as a residual haunting or human spirits grounded or stuck, they are harmless. Its up to the team to decipher what they are dealing with, once they interview and go to the location. If it is Demonic, the best of teams has a Demonologist on call, just in case..JN

Good luck to you TB..JN

OOPS!!!! WAY BIG TYPO HERE!!!!! I meant to say something I CAN'T face alone...not CAN...sorry for any misunderstanding


Tru

LOL Thats ok. But I am going to be totally honest for a minute and serious, if I may. I dont think you are taking the right approach here, and I truly believe you are opening the door to evil again, as it is there already. I know you investigate and I have too a couple of times, but once a victim of a Demonic, always a victim once they are acknowledged. I would leave the investigators at home and simply have clergy come in, but thats just me. You know what it is, you know what it is capable of, and I just pray you dont regret it. But I learned from the best, if it returns, to use St. Michael, and call my Demonologist to come back. Why investigate something that you already know is there, and what kind of powers and strength it has? As I once said to you, "being curious can get us in trouble, once we have been thru a demonic haunting because it can come back." But you are a big boy and able to make your own decisions, and I dont mean to lecture, but I am highly concerned about all this. OK I will stop lol..Again good luck..JN

JN,


Point well taken...thank you for being a voice of reason

Blessed Be

TruBeliever

[font="Comic Sans MS"][/font]Hello all. I am new to the EVP and have a question. Do you invite the other side when you want to record or just leave the recorder in a room for a certain amount of time and come back? Thank for your responses.

The best methodology to employ is to invoke an ancient incantantation used by the druids ....
before you press the record button, repeat this three times(only), and then exit the room backwards sort of sliding your feet ...almost like you were taking a moonwalk .....

here is the incantation:
"mama say mama sah mama cu sah" (REPEAT THREE TIMES ONLY!!!) or the consequences could be dire! .....b


halfhandshuffle:michael jackson-starting something
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO9xEupc21U

Barek,

Is this an actual incantation? Or a just a joke? If it is a valid incantation, what does it mean? Is there translation to what it means?


NiteNurse,

An EVP is, in theory, voices of entities that can not be heard by the human ear. It is said that the Entities imbed their voices one the tape. I have had several good responses to the correct way to collect these. You can re-read what everyone has to say. It is my understanding that you activate the recording device and ask questions, and see if anything has a direct response. OR, you can set the recorder into a record mode, activate if it is a voice activated type, and leave it to run, to see if anything is picked up.

I would suggest, in using either method, that you do nothing to PROVOKE, the entity. I believe that people that intentionally ask questions in a hateful way, or call the entity cowards ( or worse ) is not only being disrespectful, but is also creating a potentially dangerous situation to develop. I think you should respect those that you are attempting to contact as much as, if not more than, anyone living.

I hope this helps clarify things for you a bit. Like I said, you can ask any number of the people here. They are a wealth of collective information. I am sure they will be more than happy to help you increase your understanding.

Blessed Be,

TruBeliever

Saruman's posted a good EVP in News and Media - it's worth a listen.

Reg

I'm not sure if you made a decision about using VOX or not... but personally I wouldn't. The idea behind the design for VOX is specifically to attempt (and results may vary by hardware) to only activate when someone is deliberately talking to the mic.. So it's trying to avoid picking up ambient voices, or noises. Typically waiting for a threshold sound level (like.. I dunno -50 dBm0) for a certain period (100+ ms) to be reached before flipping on, to avoid faint or brief. Meaning if the spirit isn't trying to talk to your mic, you may get nothing. My experience with VOX though isn't very extensive - and usually unsatisfactory - so maybe I'm biased.