The former dwellers of the Earth

Intro

What you are about to read can be disturbing and can make you go insane, this is not a joke, so if you think that you're not ready to thread these waters then I suggest you don't read any further. For those that want to know more, you are certifying that you have good control over your emotions. For those that will read in disbelief, you are the best readers.

These informations are being made available because there's something very important that everyone should know. There is strong evidence to change everything that is currently accepted about the Earth and it's past inhabitants. I've been completely disturbed by this ever since it became clear to my eyes. Should I let others know? Am I meant to do this at all? Will I risk being thought of as a fool, nutcase, paranoid? Maybe, therefore I encourage you to verify every single sentence that was written here, and decide if it makes sense or not.

What I found has always been there for all to see, all I did was to connect the dots with lines to form the figure, so the credit goes to all the researchers that came before me and left their dots. My work is just another dot, and hopefully someone will use it to form the bigger picture.


Background

Extinguished ancient civilizations are known to have possessed incredible technological knowledge, undeniable astronomical, agricultural and mathematical skills, and perhaps the most impressive and tangible legacy of their long lost past are the astonishing, complex gigantic structures made of carved stones that can be found scattered all over the globe, usually dated to at least 4.000 years ago, the Megaliths.



(For more info: Ale's Stones; Burnt Hill, Cromeleque dos Almendres; Pedra Montada; Carnac Stones; Khakassia)


Megalithic monuments can have stones of weighs varying from 10 tons to more than 150 tons, and heights that can reach up to 14 feet each.



(For more info: Mnajdra; Hagar Qim; Stonehenge; Ggantija)

Enormous blocks of stone are so precisely fitted together that even today with our modern technology it would be impossible to replicate such an everlasting feat.



(For more info: Kheops Pyramid; Baalbek; Tiahuanaco; Sacsayhuamán)

It has been proposed in the book 'The World Without Us' by Alan Weisman, that if the whole humanity suddenly disappeared from the face of the planet, all the great cities in the world would soon start to crumble due to natural phenomena and lack of maintenance. Roads would give way to forests, and skyscrapers would fall in a period of decades.
(For more info: http://www.worldwithoutus.com/index2.html)

Who were the people that built these magnificent structures? They seemingly knew things that only now we're starting to grasp. If we look back to the scriptures of the very first civilization known, the Sumerians (5.000 BC), we find stories about a race called Anunnaki, who "descended" to Earth and established their cities on the alluvial plain of Mesopotamia. They supposedly created and instructed the human race, and in the scriptures, the Anunnaki are said to have been giants. Roman and Greek's texts speak about Titans, a race of godlike giants who ruled the Earth before the Olympians overthrew them.

If these ancient stories are true, that would explain the largeness of the constructions, but what does Archeology have to say? Has any Archeological proof for giants been found besides the monuments and legends?

The concise answer is yes, tombs, mummies and bones have appeared and disappeared here and there, however, no academic register of that nature has ever been made public.

It has been reported that there were larger animals, like mammoths, elephant birds that were over 3 meters (10 feet) tall and weighed almost half a tonne, great lizards and reptiles like the dinosaurs. Ocean creatures were larger and more numerous, like giant squids, and even a giant water scorpion that lived 330 million years ago.

Historians and Archeologists tell us that our ancestors were taller, stronger, but they won't tell us that they were giants, and for many obvious reasons. Among all those reasons, likely to be the most important of all, is that we simply don't know what happened to them.



The stones

Some of the stones used in the megalithic monuments were carried from distant places by methods not clearly understood yet, for instance, the nearest source of stones of the size represented by the large sarsens at Stonehenge is on the Marlborough Downs, about 30km (18mi) to the NE, and the 'blue-stones' were transported from over 100 miles away. Granite stones for Sacsayhuaman, of weighs between 361 tons - 440 tons, were transported 20 miles over mountains terrain. The source of other stones like the Carnac Stones, Cromeleque dos Almendres, and Pedra Montada, remains unkown. Could they have been carried from places much farther than what is believed? What would it mean if we discovered similar structures on other planets?

Speculations of a connection between the pyramids in Egypt and planet Mars have arisen when a humanoid face was photographed among pyramidal sructures in a region of Mars called Cydonia Mensae, in a picture taken by Viking 1 on July 25, 1976. Debates around the uncanny formation seemed to have settled after new higher-resolution images suggested that it was just an optical illusion. But still there is something significant to know: Is there any correlation whatsoever between the soil and rocks on Mars and the stones of the quarries and pyramids in Egypt?

Egypt:

Egypt is a country rich in stone and was sometimes even referred to as the "state of stone". There was an abundance in Egypt both in quantity and variety of stones, from soft limestone and alabaster through harder sandstone to granite and basalt. From the Third Dynasty (about 2700 BC), stone was used extensively in construction. Most of the material used was fairly rough, low grade limestone used to build the pyramid core, while fine white limestone was often employed for the outer casing as well as to cover interior walls, though pink granite was also often used on inner walls. Basalt or alabaster was not uncommon for floors, particularly in the mortuary temples and as was mudbricks to build walls within the temples (though often as not they had limestone walls).

The ancient basalt quarries of Widan Al-Faras (Ears of the Horse), so named after two hills which stand as a prominent geological feature at Gabal Qatrani, lie in the north of Fayoum about 80km southwest of Cairo. Not only do they form the best preserved ancient geological landscape from ancient Egypt, but this is also the oldest and most extensively-used basalt outcrop. There are no known archaeologically preserved equivalents anywhere else in the world.

(sources: http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/material.htm; http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2006/788/hr1.htm)


Pyramids:
Using ion beams, Demortier analyzed pieces of material from the pyramid, dated between 2551 and 2528 BC. His collaborators have determined alumino-silicate compounds. “In the 1970s, Josephs Davidovits studied chemical composition of polymers, with the aim of finding a fire-proof material. He discovered geo-polymer and some years later found out that the pyramid blocks have nearly the same composition. Upon his initiative I analyzed the matterial and found out that it is synthetic, not natural, especially because of the lixivial stone.” Said in a much-simplified way, Guy Demortier asserts that the Egyptians built pyramids on the left bank of Nile from a kind of concrete, composed of 85 percent of limestone and of 15 percent of binder, containing water and natron; the latter is an alkaline sodium compound occurring in this area.
(source: http://srs.dl.ac.uk/arch/what-the-papers-s...ranslation.htm)

The pyramid samples contained microconstituents (μc’s) with appreciable amounts of Si (silicon) in combination with elements, such as Ca (calcium) and Mg (magnesium), in ratios that do not exist in any of the potential limestone sources. The intimate proximity of the μc’s suggests that at some time these elements had been together in a solution. Furthermore, between the natural limestone aggregates, the μc’s with chemistries reminiscent of calcite and dolomite—not known to hydrate in nature—were hydrated. The ubiquity of Si and the presence of submicron silica-based spheres in some of the micrographs strongly suggest that the solution was basic. Transmission electron microscope confirmed that some of these Si-containing μc’s were either amorphous or nanocrystalline, which is consistent with a relatively rapid precipitation reaction. The sophistication and endurance of this ancient concrete technology is simply astounding.
(source: http://www.geopolymer.org/news/cutting-edg...pyramid-theory)

Samples from six different sites at the traditionally associated quarries of Turah and Mokattam have been studied using thin-section, chemical X-Ray analysis and X-Ray diffraction. The results were compared with pyramid casing stones of Cheops, Teti and Seneferu. The quarry samples are pure limestone consisting of 96-99% Calcite, 0.5-2.5% Quartz, and very small amount of dolomite, gypsum and iron-alumino-silicate. On the other hand the Cheops and Teti casing stones are limestone consisting of: calcite 85-90% and a high amount of special minerals such as Opal CT, hydroxy-apatite, a silico-aluminate, which are not found in the quarries. The pyramid casing stones are light in density and contain numerous trapped air bubbles, unlike the quarry samples which are uniformly dense. If the casing stones were natural limestone, quarries different from those traditionally associated with the pyramid sites must be found, but where? X-Ray diffraction of a red casing stone coating is the first proof to demonstrate the fact that a complicated man-made geopolymeric system was produced in Egypt 4,700 years ago.
(source: http://www.world-mysteries.com/pex_7.htm)

Mars:

Using atmospherically-corrected TES emissivity spectra, [1] and [2] identified two major surface types on Mars: basalt and andesite.
From low-resolution (1 ppd) global maps of the distributions of the two surface types, [1] concluded that the basalt is restricted to the cratered terrain, and andesite is concentrated primarily in the northern lowlands, but also has significant concentrations throughout the cratered highlands.
(source: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2002AGUSM.P31A..06R)

Close inspection reveals a host of rock types, from primitive volcanic material like olivine-rich basalts to highly processed silica-rich rocks such as granite, the study found. The diversity implies that the surface rocks have been reconstituted many times over an extended period of time, perhaps into the present era.

Christensen explained: "You melt the mantle and you get olivine basalts; you melt them again and you get basalt; you melt that and you make andesite; you melt that and you make dacite; you melt that and you make granite."

Mars is "a very complex world underneath that veneer of basalt," Christensen said.
(source: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/0507...s_diverse.html)

The analyzed rocks were partially covered by dust but otherwise compositionally similar to each other. They are unexpectedly high in silica and potassium, but low in magnesium compared to martian soils and martian meteorites.
(source: http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abst.../278/5344/1771)

Although the first APXS soil analysis (A-2) was reported to be almost identical to Viking soils, ssubsequent analyses demonstrate some variability and a few significant differences from Viking analyses. Specifically, soils at the Pathfinder site generally have higher aluminum and magnesium, and lower iron, chlorine, and sulfur. Scooby Doo, which appears to be a sedimentary rock composed primarily of compacted soil, also exhibits a few chemical differences form the surrounding soils.
(source: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/science/mineralogy.html)

NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit has found a patch of bright-toned soil so rich in silica that scientists propose water must have been involved in concentrating it.

The silica-rich patch, informally named "Gertrude Weise" after a player in the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League, was exposed when Spirit drove over it during the 1,150th Martian day, or sol, of Spirit's Mars surface mission (March 29, 2007). One of Spirit's six wheels no longer rotates, so it leaves a deep track as it drags through soil. Most patches of disturbed, bright soil that Spirit had investigated previously are rich in sulfur, but this one has very little sulfur and is about 90 percent silica.

Silica commonly occurs on Earth as the crystalline mineral quartz and is the main ingredient in window glass. The Martian silica at the Gertrude Weise patch is non-crystalline, with no detectable quartz.
(source: http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/s...20070521a.html)

Conclusion

Basalt and granite are a commom for both Mars and Egypt, but no limestone was ever found on Mars. Limestone is a sedimentary rock, it's presence would indicate that there were once oceans or large lakes there. Egypt is rich in limestone because it was covered by the sea during the Cretaceous Period.

Silica, aluminum, and magnesium are also found on both the Martian soil and on the composition of the pyramids. This would be of little significance, if not for the Opal CT, a rare substance on Earth, found in considerable amounts on the Egyptian pyramids.

Silica is silicon dioxide, non-crystalline silica like Gertrude Weise on Mars when hydrated is known as Opal-A, it's an amorphous silica and a necessary ingredient to produce Opal CT. Under atmospheric conditions of temperature and pressure, Opal-A would over time turn into Opal CT, and then microquartz. Silica will also combine with aluminum in the presence of magnesium or calcium, thus forming alumino-silicate compounds, and that's also what Demortier collaborators have found on the pyramids.

Joseph Davidovits, who analyzed the stones of the pyramids wrote "High amount of Silica exists in the casing stone of Cheops and Teti, yet, in the associated quarries there is only quartz and no presence of Opal CT. The presence of Opal CT in the casing stone of Cheops does not indicate that it is naturally occuring, since Opal CT is not found in the quarries."

My question is where did the Egyptians get the amorphous (non-crystalline) silica in high amounts to produce their pyramids, when that substance doesn't commonly occur on Earth?

. . .

Now, what if part of the raw material used to build the pyramids were brought from Mars?

I know, that's crazy, but here's the list:

*2.4 million blocks, weighing 2.5 tons each, cut, carried and and put together with millimetric precision by 'people using simple instruments';

*They were fitted together so perfectly that the tip of a knife cannot be inserted between the joints even to this day;

*Granite quarried nearly 800 km away in Aswan with blocks weighing as much as 60-80 tonnes, was used for the King's Chamber and relieving chambers;

*The casing stones of the Great Pyramid and Khafre's Pyramid (constructed directly beside it) were cut to such optical precision as to be off true plane over their entire surface area by only 0.5 mm;

And the list goes on and on...

John Anthony West writes in reference to Egypt in particular: "How does a complex civilization spring full blown into being? Look at a 1905 automobile and compare it to a modern one. There is no mistaking the process of 'development'. But in Egypt there are no parallels. Everything is right there from the start."

An interesting thing about Aswan is that it is one of the driest inhabited places in the world; as of early 2001, the last rain there was 6 years earlier. As of 18 May 2007, the last rainfall was a thunderstorm on May 13, 2006. In Nubian settlements, they generally do not bother to roof all of the rooms in their houses.

Is it possible that the whole city of Aswan stands on the soil brought from Mars?

Pictures of Aswan:


No blue light penetrates the martian atmosphere, as it is absorbed by dust, giving the sky it's red color.




The real quarry

What would have happened if the former dwellers of the Earth started using earthly resources to build their gigantic temples here? The Earth would most certainly be full of gigantic holes, sort of like these:



Those are accepted today as 'meteor impact holes'. Are most of them impact craters? I don't know. Are all of them meteor impact holes? Definitely not.

The first thing to ask is: If the soil was soft enough to absorb the impact and create holes, how could have the meteors exploded and disappeared?

Not that they can't explode, but if they did explode there's something crucial to be asked...

The second thing to ask is: Why the nearly perfect spherical holes? What does it take for an object to crash and make a spheral hole? The first indispensable requirement is a perfect spherical object, meteors and asteroids tend to have irregular shapes, but let's suppose that all of them are perfect round structures. For that round structure to make a perfect hole it has to move on a perfect vertical line towards a surface, otherwise the hole would be egg-shaped, wider than deeper. The next thing needed after we have a perfect round object falling on a perfect vertical line, is for the object to hit a surface that is softer than itself, so that it can imprint it's mark, and then mysteriously disappear. If the object exploded it would make a total mess and ruin all the previous perfect conditions.

Asteroid 253 Mathilde, discovered in 1880 by Johann Palisa, has an area of 52 km² (32mi), and 2 of it's largest 'impact craters' are respectively 29.3 km (18mi) and 33.4 km (20mi) wide. They are wider than the asteroid's average radius! Mathilde has at least 5 craters larger than 20km (12mi) in diameter on the roughly 60% of the body viewed by the Galileo spacecraft in 1993.

How could those immense, successive, devastating 'impacts' not have completely destroyed that asteroid made of chalk? Either some extremely strange force held it in place and steady, or that what we call impact craters may be a totally different thing.

The pattern on Mars:



Mercury - holes found: zillions, meteors found: 0?



This next picture is a very peculiar and strong proof that not only has intelligent life visited Mars before us, but that scientists are well informed of that. Here you can see two triangular shaped rocks that had their upper parts sliced off. They were carefully positioned in the center of the image taken by the probe, two of a kind side by side among thousands of other ordinary rocks:



The name of that previous picture is Twin Peaks


A message?

As strange as it may sound I'm not interested in conspiracies, ufos, and I don't believe in reptilians, what I know now is that something very important happened in the past, and that story is not being told in school books. So, what's the meaning of all this? The stones, the temples, the legends, the marks on other planets, us, what is it all about? One thing is clear, those that lived long before us were very careful with the places that they've chosen to settle their civilizations, and with the materials that they used to build their cities. They were so diligent with their work that they left their unmistakable traces in all parts of the world to be found thousands of years later, and these traces would lead to a serious implication, that we were invited to take part in this creation.

One could picture the human race as fishes in an aquarium, but I think that what time has shown is that we are co-authors of a masterpiece, and we are just beginning. The question is now upon us, what honourable everlasting legacy are we leaving behind for the generations in the future?

Curiosities

The megalith of Pedra Montada stands about 4km (2.4mi) from where I live, and when it's not too hot I sometimes get my bike and go there. It's kind of difficult because it's an ascent, so at some points I have to get off the bike and walk it past the slopes. The way back is great, running over 60km (37mi) an hour on a bike you get to feel the wind and the ground real good. Now my brakes are not so good so I avoid going that fast.

Last time I went there I brought my camera with me and found that there is a stone much larger than the Pedra Montada, it looks like a huge crocodile behind the trees.

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That thing is more than 10m (32 feet) long, and possibly weighs over 100 tons.

Another one that caught my attention is this half stone that is partially buried in the ground. Whoever sliced that stone used a very good instrument, it left no marks or slivers like one would expect from a sawing.

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While researching sources of amorphous silica I found out about this substance called diatomaceous earth. It is composed of fossilized remains of diatoms, a type of hard-shelled algae, and it's usually over 97% amorphous silica. 30 million years ago the diatoms built up into deep, chalky deposits of diatomite, sometimes thousands of feet under the ancient lake floor and seabed. The diatoms are mined and ground up to render a powder that looks and feels like talcum powder to us.

So, to consider the possibility that the builders of the pyramids were mining that product at such depths ands processing it to mix it with limestone at 10% could be just as wild of an idea as the possibility that the silica was brought from Mars, except for two details, neither the product nor pits that deep were ever found in Egypt, on the other hand if you take a look at Mars...

An analysis of the microscopic structure of the silica on diatomaceous earth and the silica found on the pyramids should be able to clarify this.


Final notes

One day while writing this I started having serious doubts whether I should continue or not, it all sounds too insane for my taste even though I was inspired to start writing after my recent findings from researches on megaliths. I was out in the backyard looking at the stars and thinking about stopping and deleting everything, I don't want to play the fool or mislead people, so I asked for a sign, a good and clear indication that I was either right and should continue, or that I was totally wrong and should quit and forget all this, whatever I was shown I would understand and follow. Well, I went to bed and had a non-lucid dream in which I was on the beach and a few meteors started falling from the sky crashing into the sand and the sea leaving a trail of dust and smoke in the air. Most of them were the size of a car, the first one hit the water, the second one hit the sand, the third fell to the far right of my view, and I was starting to worry that one of them could hit my head, you know, when you're not lucid dreams can make a perfect depiction of reality. Then there was silence, everything was quiet when a massive meteor about the size of a basketball court crashed into the sand 100 meters (320 feet) in front of me and sunk. When the dust settled I saw it had formed a heart-shaped hole. Woke up after that and thought it was some kind of joke, a heart-shaped hole, alright, anyways, none of the meteors exploded, so at least I had a small confirmation. It was only late that day when I decided to make a search on 'heart-shaped craters', guess what I found? A heart-shaped crater on Mars, and what is this inside of the crater? A meteor. Now I'm totally convinced, so I had to finish the article.

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Recommended websites:

http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/extremasonry.htm - Impossible objects
http://www.skybooksusa.com/time-travel/experime/paleozoi.htm - Impossible findings
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/top50stones.htm - The largest cut-stones of all time
http://www.s8int.com/greatpyramid.html - The Great Pyramid

Recommended videos:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...h&plindex=2 - Forbidden archeology (THIS IS AWESOME, A MUST SEE!) (Special guest appearance of Max Cavalera from Soulfly at 17:22)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6bVF9I-uI - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lX3IGxu86w - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEnj1p6coi0 - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogMnFJkUTnc - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prfirgGmzb8 - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-QtFMNkihw - Giants-Mystery And The Myth 6

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSoH7YANptM - Pyramid mysteries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzh_04peCI - Incredible Egyptian technology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzok29ugiS4 - Bases on the Moon and "out of place" artifacts

good write up.
but the essence is like i have blonde hair and you have blonde hair so we both should have some connection between each other!

I think that a better analogy would be: I am a blond haired living on a planet where all are blondes, and you are the only blond haired on Earth.

Everything in Ancient Egypt points to Mars, we even found the Martian sphinx and pyramids, the rare composition of the Egyptian pyramids and the silica found on Mars, that is unlike the silica that we have here but strangely, is the same kind of silica found on the pyramids, is the fireproof indication of that.

The Annunaki is a myth, not proved till now. Only Zecharia Sitchin and Ancient civilization fans inspired by him are holding on about Annunaki.
Titans are also mythological beings. No proof of them exists.



The ‘Giant-ness’ does not necessarily explain the largness of the constructions. No concrete proof has even been found till now. Not even one single giant skeleton has been ever found till now. All that is available for us are exaggerated reports in newspapers of old and websites hailing these reports! No one can claim of a world wide conspiracy to hide the giant skeletons or mummies or whatever and that too stretching over centuries.



There us something known as ‘Survival of The Fittest’ – all living beings will go extinct unless they adapt to the changing situations. Mammoths or another branch of the elephant family adapted to survive and we have the modern elephant. Take the case of the elephant itself..african elephants are different than asian elephants- why? The Situations that required adaptation was different in Africa and asia and the elephants have evolved differently. The elephant bird couldn’t survive against the changing situations/conditions and went extinct..just like the dodo.



Exactly…we cannot tell something about giants because they never existed? No proof is available except in legends and myths.



The Pyramids of Mars is not at all a proven fact. Why havent the Mars Rovers not given any photos as to this? They are just illusions to the eye or quirks of photography.




There is hydrogen, Oxygen, and even water on other planets and universes. Most of the periodic table is also available all over the universe. You are talking about one patch of silica rich soil on the entire planet of mars. Different conditions on different planets produce different effects on crystalline compounds.

i dont know much about the analysis and all but it would be foolish to link mars and egypt just because of the silicates!

Hi Andrew the Singer,

Well, not sure what to say at the moment. Avery well thought out and considered Topic. It kinda encompasses every ancient alternative theory, and throws in a couple of conspiracy theories as well.

Some assumptions you make are wide of the mark though, A meteor does not have to be harder than the ground into which it impacts because it is carrying with it an enormous amount of kinetic energy that negates the basic assumption. This huge store of energy also makes it very likely that the meteor will vaporise on hitting the planet. Also, asteroids cannot be composed of chalk as chalk is a sedimentary deposit most certainly of planetary origin.

Just a couple of thoughts, still a very enjoyable read though, hope you do not get too "ragged" however.

Actually I don't care too much about the Anunnaki and the legends, though facts seem to corroborate them more and more, and you would be aware of that if you researched on it as I did before I wrote the article. Just because you don't hear the news on the tv that they found graves in Syria of 20 feet tall men it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

No, it's really not just because of the silicate, the silicate is just a pearl inside the huge oyster.

By the way, I have never read Sitchin.

There is little to no evidence for this claim. Gigantopithecus (an ancestor of Homo Sapiens) was believed to have been much larger than todays Homo Sapien Sapiens, but Neandertalensis were certainly shorter, it is all a case of adaptation to environment.

Considering that the earthholds all that is needed (geologically speaking) to create massive structures then I can see no need to bring anything from Mars. In fact, if the Pyramids were constructed entirely of Granite then they would be even better preserved. Granite is in abundance on the earth and it would make more sense to use that as a building block.

The Great Pyramid is truly a wondrous example of craftmanship, but actually, given the money and the will, is reproducible today, and with even better alignment of the faces.There is however no sociological imperitive to construct one.

I honestly hope that one day we shall have first hand knowledge of Mars, because there is so much that seems anomalous, or just downright interesting about it. Based on nothing more than hope, I would like some solid eveidence to arise showing that Mars was indeed inhabited a long time ago.

Still enjoying your post though, must read some more of it

"I would like some solid eveidence to arise showing that Mars was indeed inhabited a long time ago."

He never said it was inhabitable d ..

Only that the re sources came from there ..

You can never prove a negative viewpoint, and it is behoven of the claimant to show proofs.

Andy - All this is believable ..

But if you want to convince the average people,
You might need some more compelling evidence .



[ All this must have taken a lot of time to put together - Thanks for posting it ! ]

Asteriod 253 Mathilde.

So the large impacts that formed these craters did not reduce Mathilde to rubble because of its composition.



Where, apart from quasi-historical sites rife with anecdote rather than hard fact, is the evidence that our ancestors were taller and stronger?

On the theory of x-ray analysis of the casing stones of the pyramids 'proving' they are synthetic.




Which only seems to show the casing stones of Khufu's and Teti's pyramids had quarries which have yet to be discovered. This is not, in itself, 'proof' the casing stones were synthetic. The illogical leap that this conclusion is 'the only reasonable explanation' is unfounded and speculative.



How do you conclude Opal CT is a 'rare substance on Earth'?



source

Also the last sentence confuses opal A (non-crystalline opal) with opal CT (micro-crystalline opal). It is opal CT the author is trying to suggest is 'rare', not opal A.

SO the whole 'Pyramid rock came from Mars' theory seems to hang on opal CT, which is formed progressively from opal A ...



source

...and so may be found wherever opal A is/was common. That you state the limestone gives away that modern Egypt was once a seabed tallies with opal CT being formed in marine sedimentary basins. There is no reason to believe opal CT does not exist in some of the limestone making up the Egyptian bedrock so, once again, it is simply a case of finding the correct quarry in Egypt, rather than look to Mars for an answer.

Besides the fact that most quarries used to build the Egyptian monuments have been identified.

It is not just polite, it is extremely important, that you credit people's research. You claim that you've done some research. I maintain you've merely conducted a few google searches.

Googling various portions of your OP text, I find that you've cut and pasted large sections without attributing them to their actual authors. I suggest that if you wish to be taken seriously at all, you should place directly quoted material within quotes and not act like it was something you gleaned from your "research."

Shame on you.

Your entire silly hypothesis falls apart if the GP stones are natural and not "cement."

Are you not aware that quarry marks have been found on the surfaces of several of these stones?

Do you not know that there are actual marks left by chisels on the (formerly) unexposed surfaces of many of the stones in the Great Pyramid?

Will you continue to maintain that geologists can't tell the difference between limestone and cement?



This one statement tells your entire tale.

Michael Cremo, author of that piece of trash "Forbidden Archaeology," is a Hindu creationist trying to "prove" that Hinduism has it right.

Might as well ask Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell to explain the origins of Man. Will you take them at their word as well? Are you aware that what they claim differs vastly from what your hero Cremo lies to us about?

Harte

Excellent article, and well documented. However, I have visited Sacsayhuaman, and the largest stone there is about 100 tons. By the way, you can estimate a stone's weight from its dimensions and type of rock. I had a few things to say about the Mars/Earth connection in my book, The Atlantis Conspiracy. William B Stoecker

NO its not. Maybe for you.

Yeah. I'm with Raven. While I appreciate the time and effort to compile this, I cannot appreciate the deliberate obfuscation or accidental ignorance it contains -- nor, indeed, as Harte points out, the arrant plagiarism.

--Jaylemurph

Thanks. I didn't get this part, so you're saying that with enough kinetic energy a ball of ice could make a hole on a block of steel? Or a Diamond could be cut by a blade of iron if it was sharp enough?

This a very interesting point. There are not many things that we can say with certainty about the Ancient Egypt, so it is my point of view that the special silica used in the construction is like the artist's signature on his work. They could have made the pyramids out of anything available here, but no, they chose this very fine substance, which only now we're discovering to be abundant on Mars. To me, The Great Pyramid is the symbol of Mars on Earth.

They are discovering huge cuneiform writtings on Mars, and they claim it might have been formed by water... should we laugh or cry? I can only start to imagine the fantastic things that they have found there and are keeping to themselves.

http://www.calacademy.org/science_now/arch...mars_062101.php

http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=3891

Thank you, really. I'm not sure that I can show more proof than what I have. It was fun and stressing realizing these things. Stressing because I let them get to me real bad, so I envy those that don't believe and those that can't see. Wish they could prove me wrong so that I could sleep better.

In the end we all believe what pleases us the most, don't we Leonardo?

That link you gave only tried to explain why the asteroid didn't crumble to shreds, it doesn't explain why it wasn't knocked out of the field. You might want to explain that to us. Good luck.

Besides, I could have used their same arguments and point that for those very reasons it should have crumbled to shreds, if those were real impact craters, of course.

I have made a research, gave the sources and draw my conclusions, if you want more then go buy a book.

Thanks for the insightful tips, if you have nothing more useful to add then I just might ignore your post.

For those that think that using common available information is plagiarism then I suggest you stop reading books, magazines, watching tv, because all of the information that you receive was brought by someone else, and processed by someone else, no man is an island huh?.

If that's the best you can do to try to demoralize me I pity you.

Not knowing the impactors which caused the craters means any speculation about why the asteroid was not knocked out of it's orbit remains speculation. It's quite probable the asteroid is not in its original orbit but a combination of gravity and other impacts has caused it to remain in the asteroid belt.

Perhaps you'd care to explain why it should have been knocked out of the field???

It is a good story, can't really put any of my weight behind it unless I could see more of it with my own eyes, but it was a good read. Perhaps you could try finding a more easily provable theory, and try it out on these guys. don't give this one up if you trully do believe it, but maybe if you got more of a good opinion behind you, perhaps you could find a way to gather more evidence yourself.

Yup, I can try. For this you will need a chocolate cake with strawberries, a string, and boxing gloves. First tie the string to the chocolate cake with strawberries and hang it on the ceiling or a bar, so that the cake will hang like a sandbag. Now put on the boxing gloves and punch it real hard so that it makes a hole on the chocolate cake with strawberries. If you can make a hole without shaking or destroying the chocolate cake with strawberries then I guess I'm wrong.

For all of you who debates, wether this is just fundamental thoughts, with i tiny "mayb" chance of truth or not.

Cant you, who dont believe that something "similar" in any way is the truth explain to me why is all seems so?

Ive watched the first youtube link that Singer wrote. Watched thru the whole 47min of it.

For me, is just seems to much to just throw away.

The evolution theory can and has been throwed away, there's just to many downsides to it.(Which im not gona write bout now but pretty much every1 knows that it cannot be true.)

I realy wanna know the explanations that you who dont believe in this has.

For example, how could we use some sort of melt metallic to incoporate two perfect cut stones? when we should have walked around thinking how fun it is that a monkey threw an apple at me.

Personally my thought is, that as they said in the video and all these topics around the subject "where we originaly came from" that we and such beings as we are atm, have lived on this earth so much longer that we originally thought.
The "most advanced species at that time" probly suffered from everything we suffers from today, as war, poorness, sicknesses. They probly submerged underground, went of to another planet, you be the judge of that, and left a totaly new specie on earth that they woudl let grow without all these knowledges and later come back to to found out what they have learndt, and how they have tackled the problems in life.

I think its something like that, it can be far more advanced in theory, but something like that. And i think we are moving to a new era where we probly will question all the knowledge that we have,physics, maths and such things and probly find out the truth about this, and it probly will be done by someone that has an open mind.

I think anything is possible, this world could easly be a fantasy world where monsters exists, and supreme beings protects us all the time from these, and we are just to "low" to see and understand it, or mayb this world is just as they say in the video. Anything is possible, because you cant prove that something Isnt possible.

One last thing that you can reflect on, u know the Mass of an proton? Its in our mathematical terms, 1.602*10^-27KG
Dont you just think that it would probly make more sense if it was two muffins?

Dont flame me for anything ive written, this is only based on filosofy, from my own mind.

I try to keep an open mind when it comes to alternate theories, but i do not see enough evidence. I feel that ancient peoples didn't have our modern comforts and to pass time they gazed at the stars, immersed themselves in what we consider the beginnings of math, science, astrology/astronomy, and medicines. Someone probably got bored just like any other human then or now, and had some ideas and developed them and worked on them until they could perfect whatever we think was "lost knowledge", "technology", or whatever.

After some time with proven technologies, the rulers and priests built monuments or other wonders that are still standing and make us "wonder" how they did it. I believe we should give them more credit with what they accomplished.

Ah, but here's the rub, and the thing that separates you as a plagiarist from from innocent citation --
You deny the author of the source their due credit as the orginator of the idea and explicitly or implicitly give yourself that credit.

In short, sir, you are liar.


--Jaylemurph

And how do you know it was a fist (in a boxing glove) hitting a strawberry and chocolate cake, Andrew? What if it was two polystyrene cups? Each one could dent the other yet not be destroyed.

Yet all this is speculation. You can speculate on what you believe, yet you can't prove it. The only thing we do know is that Asteroid 253 Mathilde suffered impacts yet was not completely destroyed. All else is guesswork.

read the INTRO

What I found has always been there for all to see, all I did was to connect the dots with lines to form the figure, so the credit goes to all the researchers that came before me and left their dots. My work is just another dot, and hopefully someone will use it to form the bigger picture.

Stop flaming, child.

Well, it doesn't matter what it is made of really, an impact of such proportions would have set it in motion, that's not speculation, that's physics.

It depends, if the impact were strong enough, it might have destroyed both asteroids. You can't just pin an unknown circumstance with one part of physics, there could be any number of factors. If you could figure those out, then you could decide just which part of physics you're dealing with. By part I mean law, I guess. Just saying, can't pin unknown things with a label or rule, until they're actually known, and expect to be completely correct.

Then all you have to do is give us some names and publications so we can see exactly where their work ends and yours begins.
We can't do that, though, can we?

It's not flaming to insist on strict academic integrity and adherence to the forum rules.

--Jaylemurph

I too would not mind some names of people who did this research first, and it's only flaming if they just out and out destroy everything you've done. Not if they make a request to see where you got what you did.

Ancient civilisations had different technologies but nothing "more advance". Humans are "idiot savants" who discard technologies and gain new ones as religions. politics and forms of civilisations in general change. My people, a Southern Coastal Algonquian tribe practiced "agro-forestry" and genetic manipulation in plants that can't be reproduced in labs. Continental European Celts did the same. It wasn't more advanced. It was just a different approach.
Another example of this is Byzantine "Fire Ships". I watched a group of 21st century engineers try to reproduce one. They couldn't because they did not have the proper approach. It wasn't more advanced. Just thought up by someone from a different angle who knew certain materials and engineering practices that were discarded and forgotten.

Sure you can, check out the recommendations list and info links. I'll give you hint to help you decipher where their work ends and where my begins: The Theoretical part is my work, the Archeological and Historical facts were researched mainly on Wikipedia. I haven't researched any author in special, mostly proven facts that can be found all over the web.

key words were: asteroids, megaliths, mars, meteor impacts, amorphous silica, egyptian quarries, aswan.

You can speak with more authority if you actually pick up a book or take some serious college course on these subjects. A "Internet education" won't get you far kid. There is a lot of garbage out there...........



Lapiche

There is a lot of garbage everywhere

+ quote the original posts but they are far too long to quote the wholes.

"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge."
-Daniel Boorstin

Lapiche

You "have made," at most four google searches.

I own a great many books already. Do you have a suggestion?


Still in character. My posts won't be the only thing you ignore.

Truth is, you ignore so many great men that I am honored and humbled to be a member of the group you ignore.

Harte

LOL! I wasted so many years and money in books and higher education and all I needed was 'google'...................


Lapiche

Thanks, I'll take note of that William. Wish I could have visited those places too.

All things are possible. That is the epitome of intelligence. Consider the possibility of all possibilities, if you don't then you're foolish, but that's not my problem.

Sure, i have a suggestion, The Little Prince, by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry. Good reading.

I've read everything, and I must say it's interesting, and although I never really payed so much attention to stones and materials, this is nothing shocking or life changing as you might say, I haven't hear anything surprising here.

But, you mention Annunaki here , and I have to ask, you believe in giants , but you don't believe in reptilians, which come
from same old legends, so how do you discern which parts of old texts are true and which are made up.
I mean giants are just as unbelievable as any other creatures from various religions.

You know, this is all bed-time stories for most people here, but you know, there is a LOT more to be found in that trail you
started going on, so if you are into this stuff, this is just the tip of the iceberg.

I heard about the anunaki, a guy on here a while ago did a whole huge thing just on them. Nothing scary about this whole thing, just gotta be a little more on the ball to really prove it, if it can be proven. Nope, insanity takes a holiday this time.