i heard that the basque people have an unusual characteristic in their blood group. something to do with the rhesus factor..am i correct?

Although they are genetically distinctive in some ways, the Basques are still very typically west European in terms of their Mt-DNA and Y-DNA sequences, and in terms of some other genetic loci. These same sequences are widespread throughout the western half of Europe, especially along the western fringe of the continent. The Saami people of northern Scandinavia show an especially high abundance of a Mt-DNA type found at 11% amongst Basques.Somewhat higher among neighbor Cantabrians,being the isolated Pasiegos with Mt-DNA V haplogroup of wider microsatellite variation than Saami.[2][20][21]

It is thought that the Basque Country and neighbouring regions served as a refuge for paleolithic humans during the last major glaciation when environments further north were too cold and dry for continuous habitation. When climate warmed into the present interglacial, populations would have rapidly spread north along the west European coast. Genetically, in terms of Y-chromosomes and Mt-DNA, inhabitants of Britain and Ireland are closely related to the Basques,[22][3] reflecting their common origin in this refugial area. Basques, along with Irish, show the highest frequency of the Y-chromosome DNA haplogroup R1b in Western Europe; some 95% of native Basque men have this haplogroup. The rest is mainly I and a minimal presense of E3b.[22] The Y-chromosome and MtDNA relationship between Basques and people of Ireland and Wales is of equal ratios than to neighboring areas of Spain, where similar ethnically "Spanish" people now live in close proximity to the Basques, although this genetic relationship is also very strong among Basques and other Spaniards. In fact, as Stephen Oppenheimer has stated in The Origins of the British (2006), although Basques have been more isolated than other Iberians, they are a population representative of south western Europe. As to the genetic relationship among Basques, Iberians and Britons, he also states (pages 375 and 378):

By far the majority of male gene types in the derive from Iberia (modern Spain and Portugal), ranging from a low of 59% in Fakenham, Norfolk to highs of 96% in Llangefni, north Wales and 93% Castlerea, Ireland. On average only 30% of gene types in England derive from north-west Europe. Even without dating the earlier waves of north-west European immigration, this invalidates the Anglo-Saxon wipeout theory... ...75-95% of British and Irelanders (genetic) matches derive from Iberia...Ireland, coastal Wales, and central and west-coast Scotland are almost entirely made up from Iberian founders, while the rest of the non-English parts of the Britain and Ireland have similarly high rates. England has rather lower rates of Iberian types with marked heterogeneity, but no English sample has less than 58% of Iberian samples...

Before the development of modern Genetics based on DNA sequencing, Basques were noted as having the highest global apportion of Rh- blood type (35% phenotypically, 60% genetically). Additionally Basques also have virtually no B blood type (nor the related AB group). These differences are thought to reflect their long history of isolation, along with times when the population size of the Basques was small, allowing gene frequencies to drift over time. The history of isolation reflected in gene frequencies has presumably been key to the Basque people retaining their distinctive language, while more recently arrived Indo-European languages swamped other indigenous languages that were previously spoken in western Europe. In fact, in accordance with other genetic studies, a recent genetic piece of research from 2007 claims: "The Spanish and Basque groups are the furthest away from other continental groups (with more diversity within the same genetic groups) which is consistent with the suggestions that the Iberian peninsula holds the most ancient West European genetic ancestry." [4] [23]

Then there's the Thracian... Cappadocia ...Georgian connections....
http://www.tribwatch.com/abkhazia.htm

Then there's the Thracian... Cappadocia ...Georgian connections....
http://www.tribwatch.com/abkhazia.htm

lots of interesting info here!!!!

http://books.google.com/books?id=zQL8POkFG...0#PRA1-PA380,M1

I was always under the impression that the Basque were the pre-Indo-Aryan (aboriginal) residents of Southern Europe but I don't know much about them. Interesting topic! I have nothing to add but would be happy to read more.
My people, the Nanticoke, a Coastal Algonquian tribe of North America have a high preponderance of O negative blood as with all Coastal Algonquians.

Lapiche

Then there's the Thracian... Cappadocia ...Georgian connections....
http://www.tribwatch.com/abkhazia.htm

lots of interesting info here!!!!

http://books.google.com/books?id=zQL8POkFG...0#PRA1-PA380,M1

I still feel obligated to point out that these connections are tenuous in the extreme and are probably attributable to later (5th and 6th Century) movements of people like the Huns, Iberians and Alans.

--Jaylemurph

It may come as a surprise that the Georgians of the former Soviet Union and the Basques of ancient Iberia, now Spain and Portugal, have a common ancestry, but early Greeks and Romans called those Georgians and Basques Iberians. Stalin was so offended by the idea that Basque blood might have mixed with Georgian that he forbade the use of the name during his rule.....
http://www.georgiaemb.org/DisplayMedia.asp?id=252
...He visually explores the still-debated theory that Georgians moved some 10,000 years ago from the Black Sea area to what is now the Basque area of northern Spain. For example, he effectively juxtaposes works such as Georgian Mamuka Mikeladze's painting ("Untitled") of a human-headed bull embracing a woman with Nicaraguan Alejandro Arostegui's fierce "Beast." That painting also is of a bull, but one with a ghost rider rising from a metallic-looking saddle.

The show also illustrates how certain archetypal Iberian forms, such as heroes on horseback, exotic-looking women and godlike bulls, may have been carried by Spanish Basque descendants to Latin America.

http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/...talin/meet1.htm

"What is the origin and language of your people?" he asked me, among other things, "Are your people akin to the Basques?" And he continued, "I do not believe that the Albanian people came from the interior of Asia, nor are they of Turkish origin, because the Albanians are of a more ancient stock than the Turks. Perhaps, your people have common roots with those Etruscans who remained in your mountains, because the rest went to Italy, some were assimilated by the Romans and some crossed over to the Iberian Peninsula."

I replied to Comrade Stalin that the origin of our people was very ancient, that their language was Indo-European. "There are many theories on this question," I continued, "but the truth is that our origin is Illyrian. We are a people of Illyrian descent. There is also a theory which defends the thesis that the Albanian people are the most ancient people of the Balkans and that the Pelasgians were the ancient pre-Homeric forefathers of the Albanians."

I went on to explain that the Pelasgian theory was upheld for a time by many scholars, especially German scholars. "There is also an Albanian scholar" I told him, "who is known as an expert on Homer, who has reached the same conclusion, basing himself on some words used in the Iliad and the Odyssey, and which are in use today among the Albanian people, as for example, the word 'gur' (stone) which means 'kamenj' in Russian. Homer uses this word as a prefix to the Greek word, saying 'guri-petra'. Thus, on the basis of a few such words, bearing in mind the Oracle of Dodona, and some documents or etymologies of

words, which have undergone changes, according to many philological interpretations, the scientists conclude that our ancient forefathers were the Pelasgians, who lived on the Balkan Peninsula before the Greeks.

"However, I have not heard that the Albanias are of the same origin as the Basques," I said to Comrade Stalin. "Such a theory may well exist, like the theory you mentioned, that some of the Estruscans remained in Albania, while the rest branched off to settle in Italy, with some of them crossing over to the Iberian Peninsula, to Spain. It is possible that this theory, too, may have its supporters, but I have no knowledge of it."

"In the Caucasus we have a place called Albania," Stalin told me on one occasion. "Could it have any connection with Albania?"

"I don't know," 1 said, but it is a fact that during the centuries, many Albanians, forced by the savage Ottoman occupation, the wars and ferocious persecution of the Ottoman Sultans and Padishahs, were obliged to leave the land of their birth and settle in foreign lands where they have formed whole villages. This is what happened with thousands of Albanians who settled in Southern Italy back in the 15th century, after the death of our National Hero, Scanderbeg, and now there are whole areas inhabited by the Arbereshi of Italy, who still retain their language and the old customs of the Homeland of their forefathers al

though they have been living in a foreign land for 4-5 centuries. Likewise," I told Comrade Stalin, "many Albanians settled in Greece, where entire regions are inhabited by the Arbereshi of Greece, others settled in Turkey, Rumania, Bulgaria, America and elsewhere... However, as to the place in your country called 'Albania'," I said, "I know nothing concrete....."

n these examples, which are typically Welsh, the verb comes first. The strange thing is it also comes first in the Egyptian language. An impressive list of such similarities between Egyptian and Welsh has been culled by Professor J. Morris Jones of University College, Bangor, whose researches revealed similar links with the languages and customs of the Berbers of North Africa, and possibly with the Basques of Spain. According to him, however, the syntax of the original Celtic language was not akin to that of the Egyptians nor of the Berbers, but had changed. How had this come about?
"When one language is supplanted by another," says Dr. Morris Jones "the speakers find it comparatively easy to adopt the new vocabulary, but not so easy to abandon the old modes of expression; . . ." He goes on to say that when the Celts came to Britain and intermarried with women of the older race, their children learned to speak at their mothers' knees in a way different from their fathers (Rhys and Brymnor-Jones, The Welsh People, Appendix B, pp. 617-41).

The great thing with Vasco is that the Verb, noun, object etc, does not have to be in any particular order. The intonation of the sentence is everything.

Larry Trask

Larry Trask was a highly regarded expert on the Basque language, especially its history and origins. He passed away on March 28, 2004, while working on an etymological dictionary of Basque. The articles in the collected postings cover everything from the origins of the Basque words for the colors to how Basque pronunciation has evolved.

http://www.mysteriousplaces.com/Easter_Isl...tml/contro.html

Most groups in this area speak the Na Dene language, including the Nuu-tka. The Na Dene Language is a very ancient language and can be found throughout North America, spoken by people such as the Athapaskans and Algonquins. In North Africa, Berbers and Tuaregs speak it too. The Gaelic language of the Celts and Basques is also derived from it. The Na Dene language is associated with the Native Americans who carry the Caucasian cluster of genes called Haplotype X.

http://books.google.com/books?id=fSfx-GTbS...cizhm-0#PPA2,M1

The true beginnings of Yeniseian studies came in the mid 1720s when Peter the Great, while lying on his deathbed, issued orders commissioning scholars to describe his mysterious eastern realm. Peter's interests encompassed not only Siberias flora, fauna, and other natural resources, but also the languages and customs of its native peoples. As a result, the German naturalist and historian Daniel G Messerschmidt visited Det territory inthe mid 1720s. Assisted by a prisoner of war captured after the battle of Poltava in 1709, the talented Swede Phillip Johann von Strahlenberg (Tabbert),her compiled the first scholarly account of the Yeniseian peoples 9Messerschmidt 1964),which included lists of numerals and other basic words. .........

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Kets might be related to ?West Siberian " Ostyaks" on the basis of their unique language and linguistically and antrhopologically to the American Indian.. ( Strahlenburg 1730) , citing Adriaan Reeland's book Dissertatio de linguis Americanis ( published in 1708) which proposed an Asian origin for the Native Americans.
Another.. Fischer was the first to hypethesize that the Yeniseian people were recent immigrants to the taiga, pushed northward in pre-Russian times by Turkic and Samoyedic speaking tribes( Fischer 1774)......

Then finally in presenting Castre'nn's findings , the editor Anton Sceifner was the first to propose that Yeniseian might be related to Sin-Tibetan, an idea championed by many other linguists over the ensuing century ( Byrne1892;Ramstedt1907: Trombetti 1902: Donner 1916-20" Lewy 1933: Bouda 1936:Findeisen 1937,1940:Joke1946:Homer1953)

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_archive.html


Similarly, 9 out of 10 Basques are descended from a man who has also fathered 9 out of 10 Kets from Siberia and 9 out of 10 Maya Indians from America. That man, founder of haplogroup P thus has descendants who belong to two of the major human races (or three, if Amerindians are considered as separate from Asian Mongoloids).

... http://www.eki.ee/books/redbook/kets.shtml
Anthropologically the Ket belong to the Mongoloid North-Asian race, although some features of the Uralic race are also observable. Compared to Mongoloid people, the colour of their skin and eyes is lighter, but in comparison with the Uralic people their skin is darker, their nose is more protrusive and their beard growth poorer. Their face is broad and flat, with high cheekbones. They are short and stout. In 1843 A. Th. von Middendorff gave the following description: "the Kets are plump with thin legs and a staggering walk, flitting eyes and a jerky talk. In spite of their Mongoloid features they look quite alike the Finns".

http://www.blavatsky.net/newsletters/basque_part2.htm

JAPANESE CONNECTION

As to the resemblance of the Japanese and Basque languages, I once saw a list of analogous words with the same significance in both tongues and I was stupefied by the quantity of such words. The word "iokohama", for instance, signifies in Basque "a seashore city," and everybody knows the great port of Yokohama in Japan. Both nations, the Basques and Japanese, are of low stature, both possess a square-built and strong constitution and both are black-haired. [Braghines last point is clearly wrong. The Basques are known for being tall. RC.] ... A very interesting Indian tribe called the Otomis lives in the neighbourhood of Tula in Mexico: these Indians speak the old Japanese idiom, and once when the Japanese ambassador to Mexico visited this tribe he talked with them in this old dialect. Taking into consideration all these facts and observations, I would like to offer the following conjecture. It is likely that the emigration from Atlantis developed in two directions, eastwards and westwards ... ( Shadow of Atlantis p. 187-188)


However, the ease with which Edo Nyland assembled the long list of related Basque-Ainu words, makes it likely that Ainu could even be closer to early Basque than Dravidian. A student of Lexico-Statistical Method should test this possibility.

Coming from the direction of Ainu (roughly: ancient Japanese) we find an interesting passage declaring Ainu as another language isolate:

The Ainu language is significantly different from Japanese in its syntax, phonology, morphology, and vocabulary. Although there have been attempts to show that they are related, the vast majority of modern scholars reject that the relationship goes beyond contact, i.e., mutual borrowing of words between Japanese and Ainu. In fact, no attempt to show a relationship with Ainu to any other language has gained wide acceptance, and Ainu is currently considered to be a language isolate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people)
Case closed. Unusual connections demonstrated. The next time you hear "language isolate" - maybe it isn't.

The whole question hangs upon the reality or unreality of the existence of this inner-man whom clairvoyance has discovered, and whose odyle or nerve-emanations Von Reichenbach proves. If one admits such a presence and realizes intuitionally that being closer related to the one invisible Reality, the inner type must be still more pronounced than the outer physical type, then it will be a matter of little, if any, difficulty to conceive our meaning. For, indeed, if even the respective physical idiosyncrasies and special characteristics of any given person make his nationality usually distinguishable by the physical eye of the ordinary observer--let alone the experienced ethnologist: the Englishman being commonly recognizable at a glance from the Frenchman, the German from the Italian, not to speak of the typical differences between human root-families* in their anthropological division--there seems little difficulty in conceiving that the same, though far more pronounced, difference of type and characteristics should exist between the inner races that inhabit these "fleshly tabernacles."
http://www.blavatsky.net/newsletters/basque_part2.htm

Distribution of Blood Types of Blood Donors

O Rh-positive
37 percent
A Rh-positive
36 percent
B Rh-positive
9 percent
AB Rh-positive
3 percent
O Rh-negative
7 percent
A Rh-negative
6 percent
B Rh-negative
1 percent
AB Rh-negative
1 percent

Your Rh status describes whether or not you have a protein on the surface of red blood cells. If you don't have the Rh factor, you're considered Rh-negative; if you have it, you're Rh-positive. About 85 percent of people are Rh-positive, though it varies by race. For African Americans, about 90-95 percent are Rh-positive, and for Asians, the figure is 98 to 99 percent.

Rh-Negatives are RARE.

But, strangely.... a person with type O negative blood is considered to be a "Universal Donor". It means his or her blood can be given to anyone, regardless of blood type, without causing a transfusion reaction.

The Rh-Negatives Factor is considered a "Mutation" of "Unknown Origin", which happened in Europe, about 25,000-35,000 years ago. Then this group spread heavily into the area of what is now Spain, England, Ireland, etc.

The Process of Alloimmunization

During the birthing process, blood cells from the unborn child can escape into the mother's bloodstream. These cells are recognized as foreign if they are a different blood type from the mother and a natural rejection process will ensue with the formation of antibodies. The process is known as red cell alloimmunization.
Modes of Inheritance

In more than 98% of cases, the red blood cell incompatibility involves the Rhesus or Rh D antigen[Rh-negative Factor] so the disease is known as Rhesus disease or Rh disease. Although the exact percentage varies with race, 15% of the United States population is Rh-negative and 85% is Rh-positive. If a Rh-negative woman conceives a child with a Rh-positive partner, the potential exists for the child to inherit its father's Rh-positive blood type.[ There are two types of Rh-positive men. In 55% of individuals, the man is heterozygous. In this situation, his genetics allow him to produce Rh-negative offspring 50% of the time and Rh-positive offspring the remaining 50% of the time. In the second type of a Rh-positive= individual, homozygous state.]

So... Rh-negative women with a Rh-positive partner are at RISK of spontaneous miscarriage and other fetus REJECTION events. Hmmmm And a Rh-negative woman with a Rh-negative partner has even a smaller chance of having a Baby born alive! Hmmmm... In animals this is seen as a problem, in HYBRID Animals.

Rh-negative women and men have several "Unusual Traits" that Rh-positives don't. Some call them "Reptilian Traits".


* An EXTRA-Vertebra (a "Tail Bone")....some are born with a tail(called a "Cauda").
* Lower than normal Body Temperature
* Lower than normal Blood Pressure
* Higher mental analytical abilities.
* Higher Negative-ion shielding (from positive "charged" virus/bacteria)around the body.
* High Sensitivity to EM and ELF Fields.
* Hyper Vision and other senses.

Odd, the REPTILIAN "Aliens" like Abducting the Rh-Negative Humans.

Basque people like making themselves of a mistic or misterious origin...but their origin, although still interesting, is not so supernatural.
Recent studies pointed that basque people came from the Libian mercenaries that quited from Hannibal army before it crossed the Pyrinees in their way to Italy. It has been reported by cronicles that they were 20,000-30,000 men that settled in the mountains of what today is the Basque country. They were not integrated with the existing Celtiberic people but ramsacked them and took their farms, cattle and women making themselves a new people in the region. All this explain the "misteries" of the Basques.
It explains why they were not described in Greek or Roman cronicles precedent to the second Punic war
It explains their odd lenguage, that possibly came from a dialect of the tribes of Libian mountains that was later lost in its origin.
It explains their genetic characteristics different to Indoeuropean people.
This studies, which are supported by many evidences, were not well received by the Basque autonomic government and has been banned by local Basque Universities provided they do not like the idea of coming from Africa...

japanese share the same word for bird....

http://japanese.about.com/library/weekly/aa012605b.htm

"Tori" means a "bird" in general.
http://dictionary.lunaescence.com/index.php?cat=11

CS...The word "iokohama", for instance, signifies in Basque "a seashore city," and everybody knows the great port of Yokohama in Japan.

No they dont CS. Tha Euskara word for bird is TXORI, they look similar when written down but the pronunciation is a world apart.
No it does not - not even close, try "Hiri Hondartza" - not even slightly similar!! The word "Iokohama" does not even exist in Euskara!!!

There is a high preponderance of O Rh Negative in the Pais Vasco as well, so David Icke needs to review his research.

http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/world/anceur/eu-john.htm

A very ancient site in Brittany (France) of a temple of cyclopean structure, sacred to the Sun and the Dragon; and of the same kind as Karnac, in ancient Egypt, and Stonehenge in England. . . . It was built by the prehistoric hierophant-priests of the Solar Dragon, or symbolized Wisdom (the Solar Kumaras who incarnated being the highest). Each of the stones was personally placed there by the successive priest-adepts in power, and commemorated in symbolic language the degree of power, status, and knowledge of each. -- The Theosophical Glossary, p. 74

In The Secret Doctrine we find repeated assertions of the existence of giants in the remote past, and the megaliths are cited as evidence: "had there been no giants to move about such colossal rocks, there could never have been a Stonehenge, a Carnac (Brittany) and other such Cyclopean structures"

Contemporary science estimates that the last land bridge connecting England to the continent at Dover was submerged 8,000 years ago. In interpreting those "archaic records," HPB cites Carnac as the prime example of a type of prehistoric architecture which is also to be found in "almost every latitude":

They are found in the Mediterranean basin; in Denmark (among the local tumuli from twenty-seven to thirty-five feet in height); in Shetland, and in Sweden, where they are called ganggriften (or tombs with corridors); in Germany, where they are known as the giant tombs (Hunengraben); in Spain (see the dolmen of Antiguera near Malaga), and Africa; in Palestine and Algeria; in Sardinia (see the Nuraghi and Sepolture del giganti, or tombs of giants); in Malabar, in India, where they are called the tombs of the Daityas (giants) and of the Rakshasas, the men-demons of Lanka; in Russia and Siberia, where they are known as the Koorgan; in Peru and Bolivia, where they are termed the chulpas or burial places, etc., etc., etc. -- II:752

http://www.native-languages.org/famath.htm

Why all this, do you ask??? that I bothered just quoting a fraction involved in the history of one unique llanguage... That mentions it has vast unpublised documents of all these various researches in archives.... that would be fun to explore....if you had the gift of tongues......

Who knows branches of what we see as Basques could have split from the general civilization or social structure...after a disagreement... ,, like Moses and his flock....at some time and isolated themselves to live their lifestyle culture....... like today's Amish... who set up their own little communities .. all over the world.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ket_people

I found very funny how some people try to link "mistic origins" to everything, only whith very doubious "proof". Reading them its a good way to pass the time when you are bored.

I'd be more inclined to believe a connection between the Ainu and the Basques as groups scattered by invading proto-Indo-European settlers unless you can come up with details to this study -- besides, there are hints that the Basque language in situ predates the Second Punic War.

--Jaylemurph

Conclusion

As I reviewed these different views on the origin of the Ainu language, all the different opinions are convincing as to what could have happened. While I was going through the Ainu-American Indian hypothesis, I remember that when I was a high school student, a member of the Latter-day Saints told me that the Ainu were the descendents of the Nephites, who were Native Americans. I thought this was a fascinating story, but I never imagined I would be reading about that later in my life.

The more I read, the more the origin of Ainu becomes mysterious to me. I came to the conclusion that Ainu may have inhabited all over the earth long ago in the ancient period. Gradually people got together and became small groups. These small groups developed their own languages and cultures, and eventually these groups of people had contact with other cultures. Slowly, these groups of people mixed blood with other races, so physical appearances had changed as well as culture and language. However, one of these groups did not mix or contact with other neighbors for long time until the modern world. They remained own their own for a long time. These are the people, the Ainu, who are the last survivors of Ice age period! Well, I do not know what actually happened. At this point, the origin of Ainu still remains mysterious; no one can come up with convincing evidence of where Ainu may belong, but I found many interesting materials through reading. I would definitely like to continue to study about the Ainu.

I found very funny how some people try to link "mistic origins" to everything, only whith very doubious "proof". Reading them its a good way to pass the time when you are bored.

You should check out some of the Mormon sites!!!!!
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/3/9518.html

I'd be more inclined to believe a connection between the Ainu and the Basques as groups scattered by invading proto-Indo-European settlers unless you can come up with details to this study

Kind of off topic, but I don't know how much of an 'invasion' it was. I heard Geneticists have discovered Western Europeans seem to have a large amount of their genes from a Pre-indo-European source.
by the way, is it true that like 20% of the German language is not indo-european? I heard it from somewheres but I don't know.

No one's mentioned this interesting tidbit from the Basque language.

"The modern words aitzur, meaning "hoe," aizkora, meaning "axe," aizto, meaning "knife," plus various words for digging and cutting, all come from the word haitz or the older aitz, which means "stone." Such etymology seems to indicate a very old language, indeed from the Stone Age."
http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display....ew=printexcerpt

No one's mentioned this interesting tidbit from the Basque language.

"The modern words aitzur, meaning "hoe," aizkora, meaning "axe," aizto, meaning "knife," plus various words for digging and cutting, all come from the word haitz or the older aitz, which means "stone." Such etymology seems to indicate a very old language, indeed from the Stone Age."
http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display....ew=printexcerpt

Need some help I think, my head hurts.

Why, Did you bang your head on an 'Aitz' or someone threw a 'harri' at your head??
Just Kidding...