there is a poll running around this place somwhere asking people if they would like to see religion banned. while more than half said no they don't want to see it banned i was still shocked seeing how much people would actually want to see it gone. i believe this number is growing everyday and will one day be the popular opinion. here's a few things to think about....

do people who want religion banned relized that they might be starting a war themselfs. think about it, trying to ban religion would most likely start a war between the religious and the non religious. and i admitt being a religious person myself, the religious would fight to the death for their rights and beliefs while the non religious would be relectant to fight because they would not want to die and waist there one life while the religious would believe they are fighting for something after life. this could result in a huge war resulting in many deaths THE OPPOSITE effect you might think banning religion would have. and even if you do succeed in banning it....there will still be underground groups (not violent) that you would be inprisoning all because they believe in god.....sounds like the book of revalation there.

anyway here's something else to think about. most non religious/ atheist people i've met and or proffesors and scientist i've seen on t.v........get ready........are well off people. meaning.....upper class, upper middle and some plain middle. why are these type of people athiest.....cuz they have good lifes. why do the lower class and lower middle class have the most faith? because they need it and don't say they don't. their faith, even if they are wrong, helps most of them get threw the day without killing and kicking somebodys a$$ that's why. don't say you still wouldn't need faith if you were poor and in a rough spot if you were never poor because you don't know what it's like. i've been on the verge of being homeless in my life and the only thing that kept me from killing somebody or beating the hell out of somebody was my belief in thou shall not kill and love thy nieghbor. banning religion would be death for the lower class and possible death for others when they snap and kill you.

lastly do yo relize banning religion goes against human rights and freedom of speech in being able to believe what ever you want. banning peoples beliefs is.....communist to say the least. everybody has to believe this one way because it's the law (and yes religion use to do that to people as well, but no need to repeat it, learn from the past). atheist would be doing the same thing they say the religious are doing to people. forceing a belief on people and this time it would be the law.....also sounds like the book of revalation.

i know i know there was no "facts" in what i wrote which is what people want to see. but i use something better than facts which alot of people are loosing now to gain supposive "facts". i'm talking about common sense.

meow

Personally, I have no desire to see any religion banned.
Each to their own delusion, I say.
However, that being said, I think too many people of a religious bent like to try to impose their will on the general populace.

where is this poll. is it online or what?

Banning religions is a silly concept: it just wouldn't work.
Ban in which country, under who's laws ?

Meow Purr.

I think banning religion will just make things worse. Then they already are right now.

I just don't think it's the right thing.

And now, the eight bits moronic question of the day:

Why isn't this thread part of northwest's "banning religion" poll thread?

which, 1.618, is at:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...howtopic=106661

thanks eight bits.

because more people get to see what i have to say this way holmes.

I don't practice any religion, however, I would never vote to ban it. If people wish to practice religion that is their choice and is certainly nobody else's business.

It's a stupid poll, if indeed it exists. What if the vast majority do vote to ban it, how will they enforce it?

I can't stand religion. It breeds fanatics and hinders countries.

Although, I do see some beauty in religion, it's just a shame most religious follow the harmful instead of only the beneficial. Although of course, that would go against there religion/god. If everyone became buddhist, then there'd be more beneficial factors to society. Although it ofcourse may hinder society some way.

But I'd never go as far to say it should be banned.

I knew there had to be a good reason .

interesting you should mention buddhist. many atheist say buddhism is the most evil and worste religion you can follow. just google "buddhism is evil" or type it in on youtube and you'll get massive atheist saying how bad buddhism is. they say buddhism is just like every other religion but it brain washes you more passivly or something like that. to me buddhism is far from evil.

All I got searching that in google, were to do with Karma.

All religion is evil, but from what I know of Buddhism, it's more pacifist than any other religion.

What I really don't like is war between religious and atheist people. I'd like it to end one way or another,
which includes banning religion. It would end things once and for all.
Since I know that religion will only keep dying every decade, I'd rather see it banned, and things settled once and for all,
than keep having this war.
There are many things banned in democratic, world, if benefits can be proven to society, it really isn't a problem integrating such idea into any constitution in the world.
For example, Nazism was once a political party, but it got banned in most of the world, because it was proclaimed a danger.
If you can prove that religion is just as bad as Nazism, then you can easily ban it.

Actually all prophets of God were pacifistic, Even Mohammed (he only defended himself and his followers from the savage tribes of the desert)
The thing is, the Clergy is the problem by promoting rewriting scripture, fanaticism and causing division on what was supposed to be a unity of Gods messengers.

What needs to be done is everyone to recognize that every "Faith" prays to the same God, unfortunately try to explain that to a Pastor, or Imam, or any clergy. We need these Clerical leaders to gather together and put this difference to rest.

Otherwise, like this poll, it will result in a big disaster.

that would be a step back.
they need to believe that there is no God, so that we may go on with history

Would it make any difference either way? It's hardly a happy bundle of joy as it is. Life couldn't get much worse without it, in my opinion.

Unhappiness is a personal thing, and there are people who can help you, you can never blame the world for you not feeling happy, there are therapies, there are visits to nature, and spending more time with family if life is bad for you

^ Huh?

You said things couldn't get worse

Maybe I misunderstood you but you don't seem content

Oh sorry, I obviously didn't explain myself very well. I meant life in general- not mine, LOL ...

If a world full of religion/faith/beliefs can revolve around war, poverty, etc., then I don't see how a lack of religion can make much difference. The world couldn't get much worse in that respect.

It can always get worse, imagine if the western world collapsed and fell to what Africa is now

Maybe so, but can you blame religion, only, for that? Try their government for a start (that's another thread).

All I'm saying is, the lives in which we stand for as a whole is BS - with or without religion. We can't turn the world into something that it isn't already. The problems already exist, whether you live by a specific faith or not.

I don't blame religion for anything

I do. It is to blame for a lot of wrongs, as it is for the rights.

I blame followers of religion and their churches, but not religion (as in "path", faith, teachings)

If there were no followers, there would be no religion. To me, it's one and the same thing.

Religion is a path, but paths still exist if nobody walks on them, they are just forgotten.

Same way, you can separately think of communism as an ideal, and communism as in historical political movement.
You can blame one regardless of other

Understood.

I saw the poll on banning religion, and i think it,s rediculous! Yes many horrors and crimes are commited in the name of religion! But banning all religion would be come the religion of no religion and there would be horrors and crimes commited in the name of no religion, as then that would be the religion! And you would simply be trading religious extremists for non religous extremists doing exactly what the religous extremists are doing! Talk about chasing a tale you can never catch up to!

^ Agreed.

I couldn't care less if religion was banned outright but doing so would probably only cause its popularity to increase, nothing good would come of an outright ban what so ever. Just so long as politics and religion dont even look at each other we will be fine. Still.. at the moment i think the 2 things are uncomfortably cozy with each other, i dont like it.

On a side note i saw in new zealand there are a bunch of christians trying to get their christian party involved in things, eww and scarey. lets hope not.

Faith, in an individual, is a wonderful thing.

However, problems arise as soon as one person says "follow my way!" and another does.
A person who says that they have the answers, with a following of students is where the problem lies. One persons vision of what "god wants", what god means, as it applies to themself is a spiritual journey.
For another to take >>Your<< vision and apply it to themselves is spiritual folly

I'm sorry, but wanting to get your response more noticed is not a valid reason to start an entirely new thread when the original thread is still active and going strong. Feel free to add your comments to that thread - LINK HERE

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