throughout the years, i've always had moments where i'll experience certain things, whether it's seeing/sensing spirits, having premonitions (they usually happen about two days before the event, sometimes less) &/or visions (which hurt like hell), & a large range of other psychic phenom. as the years go by, the occurances happen more & more.

unfortunately, ever since i moved away from my old neighborhood last year, they happen less than i'd like them to. anyone know why this would be, & how i can develop my abilities so they're stronger (for lack of a better term)?

faith is the key that will open doors. Whatever path you choose ( be a psychic, a doctor, a medium, or a nuclear-physicist), faith will be one of your strongest key to be successful. Both believers and skeptics alike have strong faiths on to the things they hold sacred. A clean heart, a clear mind, and a strong body will improve your abilities exponentially, trust me. More power!

I think these are the kinds of questions you should be asking yourself. I would think that over this last year something has changed with you and it would not be the location where you live. I am all for having confidence in yourself, or faith, however for it to really work it needs to be based on a reality your logical mind will accept. Start asking yourself questions and listen for the answers.

John

there HAVE been changes... & frustrations. because of them, i can't keep a clear, open mind long enough to even meditate. plus, i've always had a short attention span, so my concentration level is pretty low as well.

which SUCKS when you live in a house where everyone screams at each other & calls it "conversation".

May I suggest something.

Ask your subconscious to wake you up at some tome like 4:00 am when everyone else is asleep. Sit in a comfortable chair and close your eyes. Clear you mind by staring at a blank dark wall in front of you. Ignore any sounds you hear and let your mind rest as if you were going to sleep. Move one of your hands in front of your closed eyes and feel its presence. Move your hand around in front of your closed eyes and see if you do not sense the movement with your awareness.

This is actually not meditation but a first step for mental sensory perception. It can lead to remore sensing as well as a good pratice for screening out unwanted distractions.

I also have a short attention span and a very active mind. These are not the distractions you think they are.

John

Do something more constructive like taking martial arts.

If something exists you should not have to believe that something works it just should. Faith simply mean to believe in something blindly, in other words faith is BS. Also why should he trust your advice you have never shown that this works seeing as how you have never shown an ability of any kind.



I agree martial arts are amazing at training the mind and body alike.

To the OP there has never been so much as a shred of evidence ever to support that such powers exist.

I am a _______________. (fill in the blank)
I have faith in _______________. (fill in the blank)
I believe in it because it convinced me. (no blank to fill)
It convinced me through _______________. (fill in the blank)
I will hold this sacred. (last line not really needed)

There is no one that I know of that can prove any of this exists out side of fantasy and totally blind faith ... All the faith in the world is not going to make that pin, pen, paper move w/out the direct help of my hand or someone elses hand moving it ... or the laws of recognized physics...

But he didn't even mention psychokinesis.

Any kind of of power whether it's seeing the future or communication via th mind etc do defy physics and it is clear that people here who do believe this stuff have no understanding of how energy laws work.

It is impossible to see into the future because it has not happened yet you simply can't see something that doesn't exist yet.

May i know what is this energy that i can produce using my hand and i can show proof of it if you have 200 thousand dollars?

No offence PE ... I actually had developed some respect for you .... but this just lowered that to a few degrees.... What a lame excuse to avoid proving ... price it out of reason, so it's assured you won't have to 'step up' .... sigh ............... Seriously lame and it seriously caused my respect of you to go down some ... sigh ......

You cant produce any energy from your hand.


If you wish for me to prove you wrong that will be 400 million pounds please.

Actually there is very natural and normal energy the hands do produce... from normal body heat to normal static electricity. But neither of these have anything to do with "Psi" -- this is something anyone and everyone can do by simply rubbing their hands together .....

Shhh you fool I just wanted the 400 million then make a run for it. Now you have gone and ruined it. Also I was on about psi energy or laser beams and stuff like that lol. Apparently our hands generate light from what I read on a thread on here.

Well in that case ... I'll help anyway I can - you just have to split the 400 Mil w/me ... say 150 Mil for me ....

I can produce enough "energy/force," with my hand to crush fingers and, knuckle's!
Does that count? lol

what are they exactly?

by the way, guys, i'm a female. thought i'd throw that into the fold.

Hey Streak And Welcome to U-M.

Yea, I've sort of given up on all that.

I know I have something but it comes and goes and is not predictable. I am only referring to seeing (and speaking very broadly here), sensing (Empath- type stuff), premonitions and or gut feelings. Your visions, you say they "hurt like hell" -- does that mean you get physically sick like headaches, stomach aches, cramping, nausea and stuff like that? Just curious.

(((None of this has to do with the "other" stuff tele-this and fire whatever)))

Take care, Jody

Edit: an add and speeeeeling

Well JJ, i'm not saying it is PSI but i could really produce it, done it a lot of times.
If you ask about psi wheel, i can't do it honestly, but there is something i've discovered and i
believed it was only me who knew it.
Do you think a person the same with your age will talk bull especially when my 16 year old
daughter could read this post? What is she gonna think of her dad? A liar?
Think about it, i'm not saying it's psychic ability.

Seeing the future through dreams is a usual human thing, well in most Asian and Native American culture...i don't know if this is considered a everybody thing in other cultures. But in the 2 cultures, anyone and everybody has dreams that pre-see accidents, or deaths that usually happen within the next few days, some even happen right when you wake up. So you not having this abilitiy no more is probably just because nothing bad or unusual is gonna happen.

Well, I'm not of asian of Native American culture but my mother and her mother had many precognitive dreams. One of them my mother had just a few months ago a night before her mother got to feel very bad because of health issues. In the dream she saw her mother with a blue-colored belly. And the problem was related to the functioning of internal organs, so it was kinda exact. They had more.

I think having premonitions or dreams that came true has nothing to do with psychic ability.
It is more of being spiritual by nature.

Meditation or any related mental skill is more a reault of your logical thought process working with your conscious choices than its particular natural manner of expression. So in effect the more you appreciate how your mind works and like its way of being, the more co-operative it will be in how you choose to use it.

So that is the overview that can apply to any one. In my case short attention span reflects a desire for deep reflection that superfical interests do not deliver. This is a good thing for me. The very active mind is a reflection of my desire to learn and experience the many things around me. Many authorities who want to get a person better focused will want to medicate away this gift. As I see it, any activity that can not hold your focus does not have enough content to interest the real inner you. Once you consciousally become aware of this and find interests or objects of beauty that touch your heart, then you will not have a focusing issue for them.

If you could keep in mind, your mind, both the logical side and the intuitive side, know you better than you consciousally know yourself, you will become consciousally educated about who you are and what you desire for yourself. It may take a little humility but in truth your body knows more about you than you realize. When you consciousally harmonize with yourself, the noise around you is not as much of a distraction. Compassion for others is a great way to stimulate inner balance and increased comfort levels.

John

I started to get bored and probably one of these days i will open up a topic about this energy.
I always back off everytime i read some lame excuses responses.

People always do that always shouting in the family and cannot seem to speak softly and the television is always switched on. and there are always music from the speakers.

thanks for the welcome. i don't do the whole moving objects & setting fire to things stuff... i DO have a little bit of telepathy w/ the people i'm close to. as for the hurting like hell part, i get headaches that feel like my head is about to bust open, & the other symptoms sound familiar, as well. especially if i'm near an area where i sense that something's occured, w/out knowing if it did or not.

asian: i'm usually awake during the premonitions. the last time i had a dream like that, it was about my sister being pregnant (she told us the next day that she was).



i usually ask them to please keep it quiet, however, they usually wipe their asses w/ what i say, & carry right the hell on. which doesn't bode well for me, because i HATE loud noises.

He wasn't making an excuse. He just said he wanted to know what kind of energy it was. He probably just confused your offer with someone elses.

PE: PsiPog has some information that could be of use to you. If you can prove that psi energy exists (which it doesn't) you can prove it to James Randi for a million dollars in bonds. Though, I don't trust him. He reminds me of the people who offer 6 figure sums to prove that global warming or evolution exists, which they both do, but no amount of proof will be enough for those people. Forget it, take jjbreen's offer instead. You could get $1,000 and the respect of people on UM, if you can prove beyond a doubt that any kind of psychic power exists.

My problem is, if that is psychic power.
How if that is unknown energy?
Let me give you a hint.
If i unleashed it to an animal, this animal will cried out loud as if you hit it hard.
What kind of energy is that?

oh god you live there too?lol

I think you back off when people ask for something more than cheap talk.

In the UM Chatroom a few times now over the past couple of months, some kids come in with their "Claim to Fame X-Men powers" ... I give them enough rope to hang themselves ... and they always do....

Then I ask them, "Hey if you can really do this, how about a demo right here and now....?"

Which was/is always greeted w/shock and then excuses ..... usually ending in,"do you really expect me to do this now??" .... for which my answer has been, "No not really, I expected you to do exactly what you did. Give us excuses as why you cannot..." They leave the chat quickly, having been called on it.

Here the thing .... those that can honestly do what they claim - do NOT offer excuses of varying sundry sizes and lameness ... they step up and say, "Here ..." AND DO IT! Those that are just talkers ... do just that talk and talk and talk ... and avoid like the plague to step up and say, "Here...." They show exactly how real they are by their excuses and avoidance. It really is just that simple ..... Those that can do not fear ... those that canNOT do fear .....

i usually can't do it under pressure. it always just... happens.

for example, one day i was using the computer, when my head just started to hurt, literally out of nowhere. i closed my eyes, & saw a white car driving into a canal. this wasn't a dream, cause i was awake, & it was VIVID as hell. after a few minutes, i managed to get up & went to my parent's bed where i passed out for about an hour.

the next day, i was watching the news, & sure enough, a news report came on about a lady who had driven her car into a canal while backing into a parking space. her WHITE CAR. she drowned before they could save her.

in fact, here's the story about the incident:

http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/DBM580/

Thats always the answer from people claiming powers. Very conveinent.

That was not an every day experience. There is a theory, I think Jj presented it in another thread, where young teens have a better connection to unseen awareness and then lose that skill as they get older. It could be that you fall into that category.

In any case I realize you are curious about why these experiences have stopped. May I ask if you are taking medication for something like ADD. You were curious about my short attention span earlier. Jody made some good points about her experiences as well. It could also be that deep down you do not want to be different, so you may have shut off this awareness.

At this point in my life I am kind of comfortable not fitting in with conventional views on these matters.

John

I have to agree w/Eric on this ... This is an all to common excuse.

Gee what would happen if our Baseball players offered this excuse. "Gee, I couldn't pitch, I was under too much preasure!" Coach, "then either get it under control or get out of the game!"

The "preasure" excuse is just that ... an excuse... nothing more and nothing less. I'm sorry if you don't like that, but facts are facts.....

But if this is really the case than the answer is really simple - don't make any claims that you cannot back up! If indeed you 'choke under preasure' - then you do not have the 'ability' mastered and thus should NOT be making any claims!!

As to your story - at this point we have nothing to validate that you 'saw' this during it's event, only your word - which in this focal point doesn't mean a whole lot. I am sorry, I don't mean that to sound overly personal - but it is the facts.

We have kids that come in here saying they can move a piece of paper on a pin with their thoughts. They even provide a video, which clearly shows the various laws of thermodynamics at play - not Telekinetic powers. It is even clearly pointed out to them and a video is supplied showing a person doing the same thing using the knowledge of thermodynamics and NO telekinetic powers. OOOOPS ......

We have kids that tell us all sorts of "Psi Abilities" --- that only seem to work in the privacy of their own bedroom when NO ONE IS AROUND.... Funny how that works .... only when NO ONE IS LOOKING OR AROUND.... RIGHT!!

thanks. when i want your invalid opinion, i'll ask for it. why the hell do i have to offer proof of something that i know is true? if you're a skeptic, fine. however, that doesn't give you the right to sh** all over someone just because they believe in something that you don't.

I always back off everytime i see you post.
One day you won't be here no more.

Okay... had to butt in here. Anyone remember the law of conservation of energy? Energy cannot be created or destroyed. It can only change forms. *bows and exits*

Here's and interesting read....

<a href="http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/5278" target="_blank">http://www.shiftinaction.com/node/5278</a>

Are the skeptics coming to prove they are right or to have a debate? Because it seems the skeptics do not usually put new posts on this part of the fourms

But what I really don't understand is why do skeptics like to shoot down other's claims of psi abilities when its clear that they won't thank you for it? It won't hurt you to ignore it right?

Wow, talk about your handle being wrong for you ......

If you had done a little 'hard work there boy' - you would have found I have numerous threads that I have started and a good number of them are over the 100 posts and even more .... you REALLY SHOULD HAVE DONE SOME HOMEWORK before you stated this. This just shows, you do not take the extra steps needed to back up your silly claims! <-- Sorry but you did just show this....

On the most recent posts --

Here is the sad truth --> Skeptics were created by believers that come on here. They (Believers) make FANTASTIC X-Men, Anime, Jedi, Psionic power claims. Then when asked to validate their claim, >> A REASONABLE REQUEST ... we get excuses!

WANT TO KILL THE SKEPTIC? PROVIDE CLEAR VALID AND CREDIBLE PROOF .... then we will shut the hell up!! <<--- It's just that simple! Funny how the simple things are never done!! Hmmm... Wonder why ... Answer: They know they have no proof to offer! Other wise they would step up and shut us up!! << Again, it IS just that simple!

We are told - go try and see for yourself. We do and find and see the actual SCIENCE at play and NOT Psi (Psychic) powers at play. Then they get pissed off because we reveal the actual science at play. So we ask them to show us 'their stuff' ... Nope does not nor does it ever happen. Only excuses and we get called emo names. Such maturity!!

Also through out all of recorded history - anyone and everyone that has ever made extraordinary claims of any kind understood --> PROOF WILL NEED TO BE PROVIDED. From astronomy, cars, planes, to you name it. So answer me this please ..>> Why do people feel this field is some how strangely exempt from it? Answer: Because they know they cannot provide any proof. They know they have none to offer!

Sorry there "Hardworkingboy" --- but obviously you did not do the "hard work" of just a little research and investigation .... But do not feel bad, you are not the first to make this ooooops, nor, sad as it is .....>> will you be the last.

Nice post Jj.



It's a message board .... what do you think you're going to get? Not everyone has the same opinion ... thats what makes them opinions. You are right though ... no one has the right to sh** all over some else because of different beliefs ... but with most of us here, including myself, I dont sugar coat things. Eric is a prime example. He's here for the truth ... and the more time you spend walking on egg shells so no1's feelings get hurt, the more time is wasted getting to the point. If you can't handle adult confrontation I suggest you find a childrens board and post away there .... maybe more people are naive there and will believe anything they read.

Sorry for not being more gullible.



Good skeptics don't want to prove their right ... they want to rationalize what someone is claiming, or in other words prove science is right. Most skeptics want to be proven otherwise and want to believe in all this wacky stuff ... but how do you believe in something when there's no proof? I have my beliefs and my doubts ... but my beliefs are based on proof.

So skeptics aren't here to really debate ... more like just trying to spread common sense before people jump off something thinking theyre an X man.

Make sense to you?

Jj I think he was trying to upset you.

We all know the kind of care and thought you put into being authentic.

First off as Gene stated - this is a PUBLIC FORUM. Dialog and even debates are a part of this forum. Sorry but you do not get to change the rules to 'fit you' and what you like and don't like. It doesn't work that way..... I mean let's turn it around - we the skeptic would like it if 'believers' were not allowed to make fantastic claims. Wait, there is something in the rules about this!! (Suggest that you go read them.)

and I quote:


So umm, shall we say, "ooops" .......

See the bottom line is there is no viable, credible or other wise evidence of any of these Psi powers to exist except for a rare few:
*** Telepathy between twins.
*** Empath (not the New Age touchy feely, warm fuzzy bs - but people that can actually sense and feel the true emotions of another person(s) w/out any audio or visual clues.)
*** Remote Viewing .....

All the other's have NO evidence of any kind to support their being real on any kind of level. (Except in the mind of the individual) Funny that is the ONLY place it seems to work too .....

As I have stated and is becoming more and more true: Believers in Psi Powers create the Skeptic. It's the Believers fault, yes --> FAULT that we exist!

So it would kill you to ignore them? Always trying to shoot down other's claim? Why don't you let them dream for a while more? One they we will all die and they won't be here to stop you preaching about skeptism.

It takes two hands to clap if you did not care about the believers talk you would not become skeptic yourself.

Better question:
Why come on here and make unfounded claims of silliness?

There is a difference between shooting down and trying to educate them to the realities of their claims.

Dreams are fine - but define them as dreams, do not define them as physically real, when no such evidence exists to support this.

Again Skeptics challenge the claims. It is healthy to be challenged - without, one does not grow and learn. If they are not challenged, then like some recent news in our local area, will happen else where.

A. Parents of a kid under 14 was fed that he was "Indigo Child" and thus could do anything he wished. Because of his Indigo 'status' - he had Pyschic Powers and was "special". Well he kept having dreams that he could fly like Superman. His parents encouraged him to explore this dream since he was Indigo.... So he jumped out of 3 story window to fly. His reasoning was, it wold take a little bit of time for his 'flying powers to kick in".

He suffered serious injuries and broken bones in most of his body.....

B. Some jr. highers were "psionic believers". They could create this "psi balls" and other 'psi energy constructs'. They were fed up w/the bullies in their school and felt they were "ready to take these bullies on" with their Psi powers.

The 4 boys were also hospitialized w/serious injuries. Since they started the fight, the bullies were left w/plenty of evidence they were defending themselves. Which they were. The "Psi Boys" started it .....

This is the problem w/these fantasy claims - eventually someone or more will get hurt, injured or worse, because they were not challenged to the difference between fantasy claims and what is real.

So why the skeptic: To challenge the difference between the fantasy of belief and the realities of life.