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Leto0022
This happened about 5 years ago.

When I was 16-17, I was not the "best" kid. We drank alot of smoked alot of weed. I was living on my own at the time, and partying everyday. (This is important because I think that my lifestyle at the time has something to do with my experience).

One night, my friend and I pulled up to the local gas station in our home town to pick up some mix. Tracy jumped out of the car and went into the store to get what we needed for our night, and quickly returned bearing a bag of goodies. She gets into the car, shuts the door, and flips down the visor to check her make-up or something. I start to driving out of the parking lot, and all of a sudden Tracy starts screaming. I slam on the breaks, thinking I hit someone or something like that and Tracy starts yelling "there's someone in the back of your car!!!!!" I turned around and saw nothing, but I was still totally freaked out. Tracy is a big, tough girl and doesn't get scared about anything. I throw the vehicle in drive and high-tailed it to her house. We jumped out of the vehicle, ran into her house, and straight into her bedroom. As we calmed down, Tracy explained what she had saw. She said there was a man in the backseat with white hair (buzzed like in the army), pale, wearing what she would assume was a trench coat, but she could only see from about mid-bicep up. She said the worse thing about it was his eyes. She said they were large, round, black and hollow. She said that the way he was looking at her made her feel like he was completely evil. Anyways, we're totally freaked out and the worst part for me was I had to get back in the car, by MYSELF.

After awhile I mustered up the courage to drive home (which was only 4 blocks away from Tracy's, but felt like miles).

Later that night, after I had calmed down alittle, I decided to go sleep it off. I picked up my puppy, Duke, and went to my bedroom. I turned off all the lights and climbed into bed, plopping Duke on the foot of the bed. (Duke always slept by my head.) I'm laying in bed , and all of a sudden I felt something sit right by my feet. Assuming it was the dog, I said "Duke, come up here boy". Nothing, he didn't move. Getting frustrated because I couldn't move my feet (you know when someone sits on the covers and you cant move, I hate that), I raised my voice and yelled again "Duke, get up here!!!" and went to hit the pillow beside me, but hit the dog instead. If Duke was there, what the hell was at the bottom of my bed. I jumped out of bed and drove to my parents. Needless to say that was the last time I slept in that house.

After that incident I really calmed down and stopped partying and stuff so much, and I haven't had any crazy encounters with the army looking dude again, although I do feel him around every once and awhile. The weird thing about it is, although I was creeped out, I didn't feel like this guy wanted to hurt me like Tracy felt. I felt more like he was just watching, observing.

So here's my theory.

Tracy was a bad influence. Maybe this guy was trying to warn me or scare her off because after all this scary stuff happened, Tracy started doing some pretty bad stuff and we stopped hanging out.

Anyone have any theories about that night? Anyone know what I would still feel him watching me every once and awhile? Its not that kind of paranoid "somethings lurking in the shadows" feeling, its more the hairs stand up on the back of my neck and I automatically think of that guy.

Any comments would be great!!!
eqgumby
Sounds like a Ghost Story. But interesting. What kind of car was it?
Leto0022
QUOTE(eqgumby @ Sep 26 2007, 05:25 PM) *
Sounds like a Ghost Story. But interesting. What kind of car was it?


Nothing fantastic, a Chevy Cavalier. It wasn't old enough to have any history.
~Onyx~
Any paranormal incidents since then? Automobile-related or otherwise?
Leto0022
QUOTE(~Onyx~ @ Sep 26 2007, 05:48 PM) *
Any paranormal incidents since then? Automobile-related or otherwise?


A few. Nothing thats as extreme as that. I have pictures with orbs around my son, glasses slamming down on the coffee table, things like that.
snuffypuffer
Have you ever seen the trench coat guy yourself? Maybe your friend Tracy was having a bad reaction to something, and she got you caught up in the hysteria. Just a suggestion.

Veliska
after an experiance like that i would be a little parnoid as well...my hair on the back of my kneck is standing up from this story....lol
Leto0022
QUOTE(snuffypuffer @ Sep 26 2007, 06:04 PM) *
Have you ever seen the trench coat guy yourself? Maybe your friend Tracy was having a bad reaction to something, and she got you caught up in the hysteria. Just a suggestion.


Lol. first of all, we hadn't done anything to have a 'reaction' to yet, but I did think about that (getting freaked out just because she was). That doesn't explain the thing at the end of my bed though.
Veliska
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 26 2007, 06:59 PM) *
Lol. first of all, we hadn't done anything to have a 'reaction' to yet, but I did think about that (getting freaked out just because she was). That doesn't explain the thing at the end of my bed though.

lol...reaction to yet??? Hmmmm wink2.gif
Leto0022
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 26 2007, 07:01 PM) *
lol...reaction to yet??? Hmmmm wink2.gif


I assume that if the night would have went as planned, there would have been a few things that could have been the cause of a halucination (sp?), but it was the beginning of the night and we were substance free. Oh, adolescence!!!!
Veliska
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 26 2007, 07:11 PM) *
I assume that if the night would have went as planned, there would have been a few things that could have been the cause of a halucination (sp?), but it was the beginning of the night and we were substance free. Oh, adolescence!!!!

lol...I see. Well I guess that experiance did teach you a lesson, because that story was freaky *shivers*
JustNormal
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 26 2007, 07:11 PM) *
I assume that if the night would have went as planned, there would have been a few things that could have been the cause of a halucination (sp?), but it was the beginning of the night and we were substance free. Oh, adolescence!!!!



I truly believe that spirits are amongst us all the time. Also it is not uncommon for teens or pre-teens to connect with the spiritual world. In your case it was obviously a spirit that visited you, and your friend, to give you a message of some kind. Maybe if he never showed himself, the alcohol or drugs would have become a problem with her or you, at the time. So perhaps it was just a warning to knock it off..JN
Never Here
Dont think your car is what the problem is.Your story was kinda iffy till you got to the part about "something at the foot of the bed".Unfortunately,i do have some experience in this dept.You said this entity dosent scare you,but you think it is looking out for you.Very possible.Alot of people assume that "gaurdian angels"(whatever) are some light engulfed being who is from heaven to look out for you.bull.There are,as many dead people roaming the earth as there are living.For some reason,this "person" felt compelled to get in your car.Maybe since they have farther seeing abilities,he did sense your "friend" was just bad news,and he did his part to scare her off.He might be here to look out for you,or he might just be bored.Lol.Some stuff just cant be explained,and to truly know what his motives are,they are only known to him.As long as he dosent try to make things worse,just go along with it.
Veliska
leto have you ever experinced anything afterwards? do you still hang out with tracy? maybe you should go party with her again...but don't drink.....not untill after you see the ghost. lol
Leto0022
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 26 2007, 07:55 PM) *
leto have you ever experinced anything afterwards? do you still hang out with tracy? maybe you should go party with her again...but don't drink.....not untill after you see the ghost. lol


I've ran into her a few times, but she's totally not the same person anymore, so I dont think we'll be partying together anytime soon. Bad vibes dude, bad vibes!!!
Veliska
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 26 2007, 08:00 PM) *
I've ran into her a few times, but she's totally not the same person anymore, so I dont think we'll be partying together anytime soon. Bad vibes dude, bad vibes!!!

Hahahaha!! Well it couldn't get any worse than that!
JustNormal
QUOTE(Leto0022 @ Sep 26 2007, 08:00 PM) *
I've ran into her a few times, but she's totally not the same person anymore, so I dont think we'll be partying together anytime soon. Bad vibes dude, bad vibes!!!




Then you did get the message the spirit was sending? Good outcome..JN
Watchful
Well, Leto, I think it does sound like you have someone watching and guiding you, most likely trying to protect you. Was there anyone you know of, that was in the military?
Your story, mostly the part of feelings someone on your bed, reminds me of talking to one gentleman customer at the place where I work, and him telling me his story. He did felt someone sit on his bed, and not seeing anyone. His father had just recently passed away, and when the gentleman said outloud to the unseen presence, that he wasn't ready for this, the presence disappeared. This was also during a time, the gentleman was telling me, that was of great distress. It sounds like for him, and you Leto[, this presence is looking after you, and scared off your friend.
I have heard of this experience before, and I think you should feel honored of this. I think this is a great story. original.gif
She-ra
QUOTE(Watchful @ Sep 26 2007, 11:59 PM) *
Well, Leto, I think it does sound like you have someone watching and guiding you, most likely trying to protect you. Was there anyone you know of, that was in the military?
Your story, mostly the part of feelings someone on your bed, reminds me of talking to one gentleman customer at the place where I work, and him telling me his story. He did felt someone sit on his bed, and not seeing anyone. His father had just recently passed away, and when the gentleman said outloud to the unseen presence, that he wasn't ready for this, the presence disappeared. This was also during a time, the gentleman was telling me, that was of great distress. It sounds like for him, and you Leto[, this presence is looking after you, and scared off your friend.
I have heard of this experience before, and I think you should feel honored of this. I think this is a great story. original.gif


Excellent post Watchful.

And Leto - Welcome to U-M!

I was going to ask about any males in the military like grandfather, uncles or cousins (any male family member).

Also, the other question is your male friends/buddies... does one that you're really close to have a dead parent or grandparent who was military? Not sure why that crossed my mind.

Just curious and totally agree with Watchful original.gif Jody
JackalnChainz
I saw nowhere in the original post that gave me any reason to believe this visitor was there to protect you. You did advise you "did not feel" like it meant you any harm. It is good to trust your feelings and instincts. However, it does not always mean they are accurate. You also stated that "maybe" it was there to warn you. This again, is an assumption. Further, I can tell you it is NOT an angel. An angel does not sit on your bed, knowing you are fully aware and frightened. If there is any danger of scaring someone, an angel will always say "fear not". At least they do in 100% of their biblical appearances (when they surprize someone). Unless they are there to "smite" you, as it were.

I do believe, beyond a doubt, that you were visited. I also have no reason to doubt the description given by Tracy. Fear creates a heightened state of awareness, and being surprized herself, she had no reason or time to manufacture the description. One can discount any idea of her manufacturing her entire incident, because you also witnessed the visitor in your bedroom. Now, let's discuss the nuts and bolts of this account....

The part I am most interested in is the visit in your bedroom. I would normally be most intrigued with the physically visual manifestation, but it is second hand information, as you did not witness (see the visitor) the appearance in the car yourself. What I find odd is the lack of reaction by the dog. Animals are highly sensitive to this sort of phenomena. I suppose we can write the dogs lack of reaction off to it being a "puppy", and maybe a very sound sleeper. The entity sat on your bed. The entity did not move when you stated that you were aware something was there, even though you at first assumed it was Duke. You also advised it did not sit directly on your legs, but on the sheets, effectively pinning in your feet. At the time, you were 16 or 17 (you advised), and at almost full physical maturity. Meaning, you must be of someone of shorter stature for a person, spirit or not, to sit comfortably on the edge of the standard length bed pinning the sheets and your feet, WITHOUT actually contacting your feet in any way. Sitting on one side or the other would not effectively pin your feet, as you could simply move them in the opposite direction. So, we either have a very long bed, a very short teenager, or a spirit with a very narrow butt. lol. In any case, the most disturbing thing I see here is that this entity does not move. And if I could see that it was in fact, actually straddling your ankles pinning them in the sheets, instead of sitting at the foot of the bed, I would place this in a very typical and threatening category. It may have only been seconds before your entire body would have been pinned to the bed, and a weight on your chest. But....this did not happen, and I have no way of knowing further without more information.

I am not sure what significance Tracy has in all this, except that she was the first to see this entity. And her description of it and they way it made her feel staring at her, did not seem synonymous with a gift bearing spirit. The fact that you "think" of this entity when you are uncomfortable or feel like someone is watching you is a normal, assumptive reaction. You have suffered a trauma, however slight, and your mind will refer to it for quite sometime, anytime there is an impending or perceived threat of that nature. It is common. But, in conclusion, I am reminded of the bumpersticker that says, "just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean someone isn't actually following me".

I am sure you realize that all the opinions you have received in this forum are conjecture and speculation by good meaning people with your best interests at heart. It is speculation by people that are highly qualified in this particular field, keep in mind. It was smart of you to present your case here for open examination. I hope that you do not experience a reoccurring visit from this entity. It may even be, that you left him in the house you moved from. But I feel pretty confident that you were, indeed, visited. But without further data, the question of...by what? and why? will be a matter of mere hypothesis. But you won't find a better group of people for it.

Thanks for the great account. Very intriguing. ~Jackal
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spiridion
Yeah, why would something trying to protect you also try and scare the crap out of you. It seems to me that what Snuffypuffer said makes sense. Yuo never saw this thing yourself - and if you were all freaked out from the incident earlier that night, it i spossible your mind could be playing tricks on you. (Ex. - I am looking at freaky ghost stuff on the web and that night in bed my mind plays tons of cruel tricks on me - it happens all the time!) wink2.gif
Leto0022
QUOTE(She-ra @ Sep 27 2007, 04:15 AM) *
Excellent post Watchful.

And Leto - Welcome to U-M!

I was going to ask about any males in the military like grandfather, uncles or cousins (any male family member).

Also, the other question is your male friends/buddies... does one that you're really close to have a dead parent or grandparent who was military? Not sure why that crossed my mind.

Just curious and totally agree with Watchful original.gif Jody


The only one I can think of is my Great-Grandfather, but I dont think he was the kinda guy that would come back to protect someone if you know what I mean. Other than that, I dont know anyone who was in the military. Its nice to know though that there's someone watching out for me if thats indeed whats going on.
Leto0022
QUOTE(JackalnChainz @ Sep 27 2007, 05:51 AM) *
I saw nowhere in the original post that gave me any reason to believe this visitor was there to protect you. You did advise you "did not feel" like it meant you any harm. It is good to trust your feelings and instincts. However, it does not always mean they are accurate. You also stated that "maybe" it was there to warn you. This again, is an assumption. Further, I can tell you it is NOT an angel. An angel does not sit on your bed, knowing you are fully aware and frightened. If there is any danger of scaring someone, an angel will always say "fear not". At least they do in 100% of their biblical appearances (when they surprize someone). Unless they are there to "smite" you, as it were.

I do believe, beyond a doubt, that you were visited. I also have no reason to doubt the description given by Tracy. Fear creates a heightened state of awareness, and being surprized herself, she had no reason or time to manufacture the description. One can discount any idea of her manufacturing her entire incident, because you also witnessed the visitor in your bedroom. Now, let's discuss the nuts and bolts of this account....

The part I am most interested in is the visit in your bedroom. I would normally be most intrigued with the physically visual manifestation, but it is second hand information, as you did not witness (see the visitor) the appearance in the car yourself. What I find odd is the lack of reaction by the dog. Animals are highly sensitive to this sort of phenomena. I suppose we can write the dogs lack of reaction off to it being a "puppy", and maybe a very sound sleeper. The entity sat on your bed. The entity did not move when you stated that you were aware something was there, even though you at first assumed it was Duke. You also advised it did not sit directly on your legs, but on the sheets, effectively pinning in your feet. At the time, you were 16 or 17 (you advised), and at almost full physical maturity. Meaning, you must be of someone of shorter stature for a person, spirit or not, to sit comfortably on the edge of the standard length bed pinning the sheets and your feet, WITHOUT actually contacting your feet in any way. Sitting on one side or the other would not effectively pin your feet, as you could simply move them in the opposite direction. So, we either have a very long bed, a very short teenager, or a spirit with a very narrow butt. lol. In any case, the most disturbing thing I see here is that this entity does not move. And if I could see that it was in fact, actually straddling your ankles pinning them in the sheets, instead of sitting at the foot of the bed, I would place this in a very typical and threatening category. It may have only been seconds before your entire body would have been pinned to the bed, and a weight on your chest. But....this did not happen, and I have no way of knowing further without more information.

I am not sure what significance Tracy has in all this, except that she was the first to see this entity. And her description of it and they way it made her feel staring at her, did not seem synonymous with a gift bearing spirit. The fact that you "think" of this entity when you are uncomfortable or feel like someone is watching you is a normal, assumptive reaction. You have suffered a trauma, however slight, and your mind will refer to it for quite sometime, anytime there is an impending or perceived threat of that nature. It is common. But, in conclusion, I am reminded of the bumpersticker that says, "just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean someone isn't actually following me".

I am sure you realize that all the opinions you have received in this forum are conjecture and speculation by good meaning people with your best interests at heart. It is speculation by people that are highly qualified in this particular field, keep in mind. It was smart of you to present your case here for open examination. I hope that you do not experience a reoccurring visit from this entity. It may even be, that you left him in the house you moved from. But I feel pretty confident that you were, indeed, visited. But without further data, the question of...by what? and why? will be a matter of mere hypothesis. But you won't find a better group of people for it.

Thanks for the great account. Very intriguing. ~Jackal
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You made some great points!

Lets address the part about not being an angel. I know that at the time, a scare from a freaky dude in my car would have got alot farther with me than some still small voice giving me a message. Maybe this entity knew that scaring me would be the only way to get through to me (if thats what he was doing). Who knows?
As far as his position on the bed, i'm 5 feet 5 inches (approx.) so I assume he would be able to sit on the end of my bed without sitting on my feet. Anyways, its really all speculation! I'll never know who he was or why he visited me. I know that I owe him my thanks, who knows what I would be doing if he wouldn't have made me step back and look at the life I was living.

Thanks EVERYONE for your posts. I appreciate everyone's opinion.
TruBeliever
At any rate, whether it was a guardian of some type, or a spirit/victim of a similar circumstance, giving a warning. The fact that you took the message to heart and altered your behavior is the important thing. The fact that the entity looked somewhat like a drill instructor, further alludes to the "straighten up and fly right" scenario. As far as your friend goes, some people never learn no matter the amount of warnings and evidence they are shown. It is those people that I believe have the greatest problems in "crossing over" when their times come.

Blessed Be

TruBeliever
JackalnChainz
Well, whether the incident is related to your turn around or not, I am glad everything worked out for you. It is a shame about your friend. Thanks for the good story. ~Jackal
randomhit10
it sounds like it was there for one or both of you...she took the bait and ran with it...you didn't...good for you, not so good for her...maybe you can help her later if she wakes up and opens her eyes...you are the only one who knows what happened...try to help if you can...

randomhit10
soldier4death
QUOTE(spiridion @ Sep 27 2007, 07:06 AM) *
Yeah, why would something trying to protect you also try and scare the crap out of you. It seems to me that what Snuffypuffer said makes sense. Yuo never saw this thing yourself - and if you were all freaked out from the incident earlier that night, it i spossible your mind could be playing tricks on you. (Ex. - I am looking at freaky ghost stuff on the web and that night in bed my mind plays tons of cruel tricks on me - it happens all the time!) wink2.gif


I think it's time to start looking around old photo album and observing some old pictures.
Veliska
QUOTE(JackalnChainz @ Sep 27 2007, 05:51 AM) *
I saw nowhere in the original post that gave me any reason to believe this visitor was there to protect you. You did advise you "did not feel" like it meant you any harm. It is good to trust your feelings and instincts. However, it does not always mean they are accurate. You also stated that "maybe" it was there to warn you. This again, is an assumption. Further, I can tell you it is NOT an angel. An angel does not sit on your bed, knowing you are fully aware and frightened. If there is any danger of scaring someone, an angel will always say "fear not". At least they do in 100% of their biblical appearances (when they surprize someone). Unless they are there to "smite" you, as it were.

I do believe, beyond a doubt, that you were visited. I also have no reason to doubt the description given by Tracy. Fear creates a heightened state of awareness, and being surprized herself, she had no reason or time to manufacture the description. One can discount any idea of her manufacturing her entire incident, because you also witnessed the visitor in your bedroom. Now, let's discuss the nuts and bolts of this account....

The part I am most interested in is the visit in your bedroom. I would normally be most intrigued with the physically visual manifestation, but it is second hand information, as you did not witness (see the visitor) the appearance in the car yourself. What I find odd is the lack of reaction by the dog. Animals are highly sensitive to this sort of phenomena. I suppose we can write the dogs lack of reaction off to it being a "puppy", and maybe a very sound sleeper. The entity sat on your bed. The entity did not move when you stated that you were aware something was there, even though you at first assumed it was Duke. You also advised it did not sit directly on your legs, but on the sheets, effectively pinning in your feet. At the time, you were 16 or 17 (you advised), and at almost full physical maturity. Meaning, you must be of someone of shorter stature for a person, spirit or not, to sit comfortably on the edge of the standard length bed pinning the sheets and your feet, WITHOUT actually contacting your feet in any way. Sitting on one side or the other would not effectively pin your feet, as you could simply move them in the opposite direction. So, we either have a very long bed, a very short teenager, or a spirit with a very narrow butt. lol. In any case, the most disturbing thing I see here is that this entity does not move. And if I could see that it was in fact, actually straddling your ankles pinning them in the sheets, instead of sitting at the foot of the bed, I would place this in a very typical and threatening category. It may have only been seconds before your entire body would have been pinned to the bed, and a weight on your chest. But....this did not happen, and I have no way of knowing further without more information.

I am not sure what significance Tracy has in all this, except that she was the first to see this entity. And her description of it and they way it made her feel staring at her, did not seem synonymous with a gift bearing spirit. The fact that you "think" of this entity when you are uncomfortable or feel like someone is watching you is a normal, assumptive reaction. You have suffered a trauma, however slight, and your mind will refer to it for quite sometime, anytime there is an impending or perceived threat of that nature. It is common. But, in conclusion, I am reminded of the bumpersticker that says, "just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean someone isn't actually following me".

I am sure you realize that all the opinions you have received in this forum are conjecture and speculation by good meaning people with your best interests at heart. It is speculation by people that are highly qualified in this particular field, keep in mind. It was smart of you to present your case here for open examination. I hope that you do not experience a reoccurring visit from this entity. It may even be, that you left him in the house you moved from. But I feel pretty confident that you were, indeed, visited. But without further data, the question of...by what? and why? will be a matter of mere hypothesis. But you won't find a better group of people for it.

Thanks for the great account. Very intriguing. ~Jackal
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wow great comment and i love your photo original.gif
JackalnChainz
QUOTE(veliska27 @ Sep 28 2007, 03:39 PM) *
wow great comment and i love your photo original.gif

Thanks Doll... ~Jackal
JackalnChainz
I wonder what the new residents in your old house might say?
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