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truethat


Quoted from Martin Buber ( I don't have a source since I'm copying it off a paper and its a snippet)

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I say and mean: religiosity. I do not say and do not mean: religion. Religiosity is man's sense of wonder and adoration, an ever anew becoming, an ever anew articulation and formulation of his feeling that, transcending his conditioned being yet bursting from its very core, there is something that is unconditioned. Religiosity is his longing to establish a living communion with the unconditioned, his will to realize the unconditioned through his action, transposing it into the world of man.

Religion is the sum total of the customs and teachings articulated and formulated by the religiosity of a certain epoch in a people's life; its prescriptions and dogmas are rigidly determined and handed down as unalterably binding to all future generations, without regard for their newly developed religiosity, which seeks new forms.

Religion is true so long as it is creative; but it is creative only so long as religiosity, accepting the yoke of the laws and doctrines, is able (often without even noticing it) to imbue them with new and incandescent meaning, so that they will seem to have been revealed to every generation anew, revealed today , thus answering men's very own needs, needs alien to their fathers.

But once religious rites and dogmas have become so rigid that religiosity cannot move them or no longer wants to comply with them, religion becomes uncreative and therefor untrue. Thus religiosity is the creative, religion the organizing, principle. Religiosity starts anew with every young person, shaken to his very core by the mystery; religion wants to force him into a system stabilized for all time.

Religiosity means activity--the elemental entering-into-relation with the absolute; religion means passivity--an acceptance of the handed-down command. Religiosity has only one goal; religion several. Religiosity induces sons. who want to find their own God, to rebel against their fathers; religion induces fathers to reject their sons, who will not let their fathers' God be forced upon them. Religion means preservation; religiosity, renewal.




What say you?


Buddharat
Thanks TrueThat. That's a really interesting article and I personally feel that it's really relevant to society and organized religion today. Organized religion really seem suffocating to me and doesn't allow people to feel, interpret and come to know god for themselves (probably why I don't like religion). While I don't believe in god, I would never want to take that away from people...which is why I never even talk about the subject with my mom. But this article really shows some of the problems it seems like organized religion has today and I'd agree with it. :-)

Thanks!!!
truethat
Interesting post. I tend to agree with most of it. thumbsup.gif
Tangerine Sheri
I agree True, what I call liberal and extreme..,.....
bee

Quote from quote...."Religiosity means activity..........religion means passivity."

I think this is why organised religion does nothing for me....it seems so static.
There's the book, the basic ideas and the rules. In saying that...women being
able to be vicars and lead traditional church rituals is quite a change in the
Church of England. And caused a huge rumpus...but is generally accepted now.
But they (the women) still have to operate within the basic rules/ideas.


I think it was 'religiosity' that gave millions of people such a buzz in Dan Browns
'The Da Vinci Code' which, in the form of a novel, he put forward the idea that Jesus
married, had a child/children and his bloodline could be tracked to modern times.

Other researchers had put forward the idea through non-fictional work...ie 'The Holy
Blood and the Holy Grail." but Brown's book 'took it to the people'.

Suddenly, at last, there was some movement of ideas...a development...and this excited
the general public in a way that organised religion hadn't done for a long, long time.
truethat
great example bee!!! Another way to look at it is that Religiosity keeps the mystery!
Magnatude
Interesting and I agree with it, it seems to sum up the reasons I rejected the church, but kept my faith.
~HaParash~
Hmm...I think religion (when used right) is wonderful.
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