The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 01:20 PM
But since I did make mention of Admiral Byrd I'll also point out many other instances here explorers have found unusual conditions in the North Pole area. Taken from an article, I'm not sure ho valid the information on the site is, I'm sorry I didn't get to check it right out but I did find it interesting information.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowland...3/under012.htmlObservations by north polar explorers indicate that there is indeed a land in the far north with a subtropical climate heated by a sister sun inside Our Hollow Earth. For example, Explorer's reports of abundant animal and bird life in the summer time in the far north indicates a homeland in the north from which they extend in the summer further south and to which they are seen to migrate in the fall.
Explorer Hays observed abundant insect life in the far north. When he was in latitude 78 degrees, 17 minutes in early July he said, "I secured a yellow-winged butterfly, and--who would believe it--a mosquito...ten moths, three spiders, two bees and two flies." (The Open Polar Sea, p. 413)
Notice the element of surprise that many explorers expressed resulting from the discovery of conditions which they weren't expecting.
Explorer Greely, in his book, THREE YEARS OF ARCTIC SERVICE, in Grinnell Land in June of 1881, reports birds of an unknown species, butterflies, bumblebees, so many flies they couldn't sleep at night, and temperatures of 47 and 50 degrees at latitude 81 degrees 49 minutes north. He also found plenty willow to make fire, and much driftwood, (Chapter 26, Vol. I)
A swedish expedition under Otto Torell, found near Trurenberg Bay in the Arctic Sea, trees floating with green buds on them and among them was found the seed of the tropical Entada Bean which measured 2.25 inches across. (Gardner, p. 253)
Explorer Sverdrup at 81 degrees north found so many hares that they named one inlet, Hare Fiord. Also nearly all expedition parties found enough game to keep their exploring parties well fed with meat. These included herds of musk-oxen and reindeer. (Gardner p. 254)
Captain Beechey saw so many birds on the west coast of Spitzbergen that sometimes a single shot killed thirty of them. (Gardner p. 254)
All explorers observed that not all animals migrate south to escape the cold Arctic winds in winter, but many instead go north. Where do they go? Greely, surprised at the tremendous amount of wildlife in a supposed frozen north wrote, "Surely this presence of birds and flowers and beasts was a greeting on nature's part to our new home."
Explorer Kane reported seeing several groups of Brent Geese, which is an American migratory bird, flying NORTHEAST in their wedge-shaped line of flight at 80 degrees 50' north at Cape Jackson, near Grinnelland in late June 1854.
Explorer Greely makes this statement of the northward migration of bears, "Lieutenant Lockwood, in May, 1882, noticed bear tracks (going NORTHEAST) on the north coast of Greenland, near Cape Benet in 83 degrees 3' N.," and commented, "...I cannot understand why the bear ever leaves the rich hunting-field of the 'North Water' for the desolate shores of the northward." (THREE YEARS, p. 366)
Greely also wrote about the Ross Gull, "...the observations of Murdoch at Point Barrow show that this bird, in thousands, passes over that point to the NORTHEAST in October, none of which were seen to return." (THREE YEARS, p. 383)
Explorer Adolf Erick Nordenskiold, leader of a Swedish expedition, recorded in THE ARCTIC VOYAGE OF 1858-1878, that on May 23, they saw north of Amsterdam Island (by Spitzbergen), "great numbers of barnacle geese...flying towards the NORTHWEST, perhaps to some land more northerly than Spitzbergen. (There is no such land on our present-day maps) The existence of such a land," wrote Nordenskiold, "is considered quite certain by the walrus-hunters, who state that at the most northerly point hitherto reached, such flocks of birds are seen steering their course in rapid flight yet farther toward the north." (Gardner, p. 160)
Daines Barrington, in his book, ON THE POSSIBILITY OF APPROACHING THE NORTH POLE, wrote that observers in Spitzbergen have always noticed in spring, just before the hatching season, the wild ducks, geese, and other birds, fly in a northerly direction. There is also a heavy fall migration to the north.
In HEARNES JOURNAL, is told of observations around Hudson's Bay by Hearne of ten species of geese, particularly the snow goose, blue goose, brent goose, horned wavy goose, lay their eggs and raise their young in some country which to Hearne was unknown. Explorers, Indians and Eskimos could never tell where these fowl bred and it was well known that they never migrated to the south.
AmazingAtheist
Sep 29 2007, 01:23 PM
QUOTE(weareallsuckers @ Sep 29 2007, 12:29 PM)

Since being on the other Hollow Earth link I have learned so much about this whole theory that I never even knew existed. I can present some info for both sides here. I think the stories and legends that surround the Hollow Earth theory and how it all ties in to the mythologies and legends of tribes and native cultures is curious and with UFO's, alien cultures, reptoid stories, giants and long lost lands it is certainly an interesting topic for me!
There is an expedition planned btw, but it has been cancelled at the moment due to the death of one of the leading explorers but is scheduled to go ahead in the near future. They have hired a Russian Ice Breaker and have the position and everything all located and expect to find it, there is plenty of other info about it but this is the official site:
http://www.voyagehollowearth.com/I wanted to add it may be worthwhile checking out the story of Admiral Byrd more closely, it appears he was actually in the South Pole at the time the diary was written, Feb 47. Here is a piece from hollow earth insider:
http://www.thehollowearthinsider.com/news/wmview.php?ArtID=6 "However, the biggest negative ruling out a February 1947 Arctic expedition by Admiral Byrd was the indisputable fact that he was smack dab in the middle of the command of his life – “Operation Highjump,” the most extensive Antarctic expedition in the world. The operation made front-page headlines around the world with reports about the Admirals personal movements broadcast around the world daily from January 2nd until his return to America on April 14th 1947. This would have made a North Polar flight during this time damn near impossible. So, the question we need to answer is: Where did the story of a February 1947 Arctic expedition actually come from?
The first mention of a 1947 North Polar flight by the Admiral can be found in the book Worlds beyond the Poles: Physical Continuity of the Universe (1959) by a controversial self-proclaimed scientist, F. Amadeo Giannini." This is a link to a site by the foremost Hollow Earth expert in the world Jan Lamprecht, it has similar links and pictures to ones already shown here.
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/janhol.htmlAre you sure that picture is of Earth? Sorry if I am mistaken .. I just think it doesn't look like Earth ..
The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 01:29 PM
QUOTE(Complex @ Sep 29 2007, 11:23 PM)

Are you sure that picture is of Earth? Sorry if I am mistaken .. I just think it doesn't look like Earth ..
Hi, I am not positive but it is suppose to be a close up of the hole over the pole. A close up of the hole in the 2 pictures in my next post.
The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 01:36 PM
Here's a couple more that ARE Earth.
The other one that doesnt look like Earth is a close up of same hole.
Abecrombie
Sep 29 2007, 01:41 PM
That pic is pretty immpressive , but it looks as though there is a slight ray of light coming out of that hole and that would be global news as we speak and i dont think its global,.. im sorry but it doesnt seem authentic the picture that is not the possibility, . even though i personaly dont think so,. sorry friend but interesting
AmazingAtheist
Sep 29 2007, 01:45 PM
I think the whole "Supermen and Superwomen living inside our Earth" is ridicules .. :l
Some even claim we have a sun tucked away in there as well? :l
Sorry - Too far fetched to me ..
The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 02:07 PM
QUOTE(Complex @ Sep 29 2007, 11:45 PM)

I think the whole "Supermen and Superwomen living inside our Earth" is ridicules .. :l
Some even claim we have a sun tucked away in there as well? :l
Sorry - Too far fetched to me ..
It is very far fetched and scoffed at in general in the scientific community but I believe that's because all the stories and myths and theories all get bound into one so that the original thought becomes incomprehendible. The Polar openings are only one line of thought, many others put the openings in Tibet, there they correspond to many legends that place the opening of an inner earth leading to Shambhala there. The idea of a huge cavernous area inside the Earth that other civilisations live is not as crazy as one thinks, it's hen you combine it ith polar openings, inner suns and giant aliens it becomes a bit hard to take.
Here's a list of possible openings:
The Entrances. There are allegedly several entrances to the Kingdom of Agharta throughout the world:
Kentucky Mommoth Cave, in south-central Kentucky, US.
Mount Shasta, California, US - the Agharthean city of Telos allegedly exists within and beneath this mountain.
Manaus, Brazil.
Mato Grosso, Brazil - the city of Posid supposedly lies beneath this plain.
Iguaçú Falls, border or Brazil and Argentina.
Mount Epomeo, Italy.
Himalayan Mountains, Tibet - the entrance to the underground city of Shonshe is allegedly guarded by Hindu monks.
Mongolia - the underground city of Shingwa allegedly exists beneath the border of Mongolia and China.
Rama, India - beneath this surface city is a long lost subterranean city, they say, also named Rama.
Pyramid of Giza, Egypt.
King Solomon's Mines.
Dero Caves,
North and South Poles.
http://www.livinginthelightms.com/shambhala3.html
The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 02:10 PM
QUOTE(bee @ Sep 29 2007, 09:41 PM)

Now I'm not for one tiny moment suggesting that I'm super human.....

...but what you've said
reminds me of a dream I had recently...
It was the most dramatic flying dream I've ever had. To cut it short.....
I was flying over a field and there were 2 men in the field who were going to shoot some
cows. They saw me and turned their guns up to aim at me. I thought "oh dear...how far have I
got to quickly fly to get out of the range of the bullets???"
In that instant I shot straight up into the air like a rocket...very very fast and straight up....and
up... I went very very high and came to another world. I can't remember what this other world was like
because I was so surprised that I woke up!
Well they say our dreams mean something Bee, I love the part about coming to another orld, I ish my dreams ere that interesting. (geez my letter double u has gone on my keyboard!) (WWW oh it Works With a capital...OK)
There is another link near same as this, sorry if I'm posting double info in my links, I'm getting a bit mixed up, maybe they could/should be merged? HolloW Earth & Subterranean civilizations.
SparkOfOm
Sep 29 2007, 03:15 PM
Of course it's true.. I've been there many times myself.. ha ha.
Never Here
Sep 29 2007, 03:30 PM
LOL...C'mon,people!Your talking nonsense!Hollow earth,military bases,super huge people....A SUN INSIDE THE EARTH?!Hello?REALITY?There is *no way* possible for the earth to have a sun inside....What about the center of the earth being billions of degrees of molten metal?The volcanos that populate the planet that have viens of lava running through the earth go all the way down,so how does the possibility even exist?IT CANT.If the earth were hollow,gravity itself wouldnt even work right.None of this makes sense unless you have been bonging out waaaay too much.(and even then,i mean,c'mon...)
The Puzzler
Sep 29 2007, 03:49 PM
See this site for an exellent summary detailing gravity and inner Earth suns.
http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/janhol.html#Def
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 29 2007, 04:10 PM
QUOTE(soldierspy @ Sep 29 2007, 10:30 AM)

LOL...C'mon,people!Your talking nonsense!Hollow earth,military bases,super huge people....A SUN INSIDE THE EARTH?!Hello?REALITY?There is *no way* possible for the earth to have a sun inside....What about the center of the earth being billions of degrees of molten metal?The volcanos that populate the planet that have viens of lava running through the earth go all the way down,so how does the possibility even exist?IT CANT.If the earth were hollow,gravity itself wouldnt even work right.None of this makes sense unless you have been bonging out waaaay too much.(and even then,i mean,c'mon...)
Bongs explain much on this thread.
jaylemurph
Sep 29 2007, 04:18 PM
QUOTE(weareallsuckers @ Sep 29 2007, 10:07 AM)

It is very far fetched and scoffed at in general in the scientific community but I believe that's because all the stories and myths and theories all get bound into one so that the original thought becomes incomprehendible. The Polar openings are only one line of thought, many others put the openings in Tibet, there they correspond to many legends that place the opening of an inner earth leading to Shambhala there. The idea of a huge cavernous area inside the Earth that other civilisations live is not as crazy as one thinks, it's hen you combine it ith polar openings, inner suns and giant aliens it becomes a bit hard to take.
Here's a list of possible openings:
The Entrances. There are allegedly several entrances to the Kingdom of Agharta throughout the world:
Kentucky Mommoth Cave, in south-central Kentucky, US.
Mount Shasta, California, US - the Agharthean city of Telos allegedly exists within and beneath this mountain.
Manaus, Brazil.
Mato Grosso, Brazil - the city of Posid supposedly lies beneath this plain.
Iguaçú Falls, border or Brazil and Argentina.
Mount Epomeo, Italy.
Himalayan Mountains, Tibet - the entrance to the underground city of Shonshe is allegedly guarded by Hindu monks.
Mongolia - the underground city of Shingwa allegedly exists beneath the border of Mongolia and China.
Rama, India - beneath this surface city is a long lost subterranean city, they say, also named Rama.
Pyramid of Giza, Egypt.
King Solomon's Mines.
Dero Caves, North and South Poles.
http://www.livinginthelightms.com/shambhala3.htmlWAAS -- your inability to tell fictional places from real ones sort of undermines your entire argument.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 29 2007, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Sep 29 2007, 11:18 AM)

WAAS -- your inability to tell fictional places from real ones sort of undermines your entire argument.
The voice of reason. Sweet music to the ears.
SoulFire
Sep 29 2007, 04:24 PM
QUOTE(weareallsuckers @ Sep 29 2007, 01:20 PM)

But since I did make mention of Admiral Byrd I'll also point out many other instances here explorers have found unusual conditions in the North Pole area. Taken from an article, I'm not sure ho valid the information on the site is, I'm sorry I didn't get to check it right out but I did find it interesting information.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowland...3/under012.htmlObservations by north polar explorers indicate that there is indeed a land in the far north with a subtropical climate heated by a sister sun inside Our Hollow Earth. For example, Explorer's reports of abundant animal and bird life in the summer time in the far north indicates a homeland in the north from which they extend in the summer further south and to which they are seen to migrate in the fall.
Explorer Hays observed abundant insect life in the far north. When he was in latitude 78 degrees, 17 minutes in early July he said, "I secured a yellow-winged butterfly, and--who would believe it--a mosquito...ten moths, three spiders, two bees and two flies." (The Open Polar Sea, p. 413)
Notice the element of surprise that many explorers expressed resulting from the discovery of conditions which they weren't expecting.
Explorer Greely, in his book, THREE YEARS OF ARCTIC SERVICE, in Grinnell Land in June of 1881, reports birds of an unknown species, butterflies, bumblebees, so many flies they couldn't sleep at night, and temperatures of 47 and 50 degrees at latitude 81 degrees 49 minutes north. He also found plenty willow to make fire, and much driftwood, (Chapter 26, Vol. I)
A swedish expedition under Otto Torell, found near Trurenberg Bay in the Arctic Sea, trees floating with green buds on them and among them was found the seed of the tropical Entada Bean which measured 2.25 inches across. (Gardner, p. 253)
Explorer Sverdrup at 81 degrees north found so many hares that they named one inlet, Hare Fiord. Also nearly all expedition parties found enough game to keep their exploring parties well fed with meat. These included herds of musk-oxen and reindeer. (Gardner p. 254)
Captain Beechey saw so many birds on the west coast of Spitzbergen that sometimes a single shot killed thirty of them. (Gardner p. 254)
All explorers observed that not all animals migrate south to escape the cold Arctic winds in winter, but many instead go north. Where do they go? Greely, surprised at the tremendous amount of wildlife in a supposed frozen north wrote, "Surely this presence of birds and flowers and beasts was a greeting on nature's part to our new home."
Explorer Kane reported seeing several groups of Brent Geese, which is an American migratory bird, flying NORTHEAST in their wedge-shaped line of flight at 80 degrees 50' north at Cape Jackson, near Grinnelland in late June 1854.
Explorer Greely makes this statement of the northward migration of bears, "Lieutenant Lockwood, in May, 1882, noticed bear tracks (going NORTHEAST) on the north coast of Greenland, near Cape Benet in 83 degrees 3' N.," and commented, "...I cannot understand why the bear ever leaves the rich hunting-field of the 'North Water' for the desolate shores of the northward." (THREE YEARS, p. 366)
Greely also wrote about the Ross Gull, "...the observations of Murdoch at Point Barrow show that this bird, in thousands, passes over that point to the NORTHEAST in October, none of which were seen to return." (THREE YEARS, p. 383)
Explorer Adolf Erick Nordenskiold, leader of a Swedish expedition, recorded in THE ARCTIC VOYAGE OF 1858-1878, that on May 23, they saw north of Amsterdam Island (by Spitzbergen), "great numbers of barnacle geese...flying towards the NORTHWEST, perhaps to some land more northerly than Spitzbergen. (There is no such land on our present-day maps) The existence of such a land," wrote Nordenskiold, "is considered quite certain by the walrus-hunters, who state that at the most northerly point hitherto reached, such flocks of birds are seen steering their course in rapid flight yet farther toward the north." (Gardner, p. 160)
Daines Barrington, in his book, ON THE POSSIBILITY OF APPROACHING THE NORTH POLE, wrote that observers in Spitzbergen have always noticed in spring, just before the hatching season, the wild ducks, geese, and other birds, fly in a northerly direction. There is also a heavy fall migration to the north.
In HEARNES JOURNAL, is told of observations around Hudson's Bay by Hearne of ten species of geese, particularly the snow goose, blue goose, brent goose, horned wavy goose, lay their eggs and raise their young in some country which to Hearne was unknown. Explorers, Indians and Eskimos could never tell where these fowl bred and it was well known that they never migrated to the south. i posted this in the other thread too. i don't see why someone doesn't just capture some of these geese &/or ducks that hang around greenland & iceland, put some GPS tracking devices on them & then see where to the north they are migrating to. seems simple enough to me. am i missing something?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 29 2007, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(klc9100 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:24 AM)

i posted this in the other thread too. i don't see why someone doesn't just capture some of these geese &/or ducks that hang around greenland & iceland, put some GPS tracking devices on them & then see where to the north they are migrating to. seems simple enough to me. am i missing something?
You are using too much logic. Some people don't like that.lol
SoulFire
Sep 29 2007, 04:33 PM
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 29 2007, 04:30 PM)

You are using too much logic. Some people don't like that.lol
i think you misunderstood. i
believe the opening is there. i just can't figure out why someone can't find it
jaylemurph
Sep 29 2007, 04:45 PM
But that doesn't make much sense -- if there's a whacking great hole as appears in pictures, people would see it, right? From planes, or satellites or STS missions.
But they don't.
So either the whacking great hole is in fact not whacking big, therefore the pictures are fakes, or despite these pictures (if they are real) human society in general can't be bothered to investigate the whacking great holes, or there's a huge cover-up that, despite lasting hundreds or thousands of years, spanning the entire globe and being virtually completely successful, isn't good enough to prevent a few people from looking on the Internet and finding out about the cover-up?
I'm just trying to get a handle on this theory.
--Jaylemurph
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 29 2007, 05:24 PM
QUOTE(klc9100 @ Sep 29 2007, 11:33 AM)

i think you misunderstood. i
believe the opening is there. i just can't figure out why someone can't find it


I am sad now.lol
SoulFire
Sep 29 2007, 05:42 PM
QUOTE(Eric Raven The Skeptic @ Sep 29 2007, 05:24 PM)


I am sad now.lol

you didn't think i had turned totally skeptical overnight, did you?
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Sep 29 2007, 05:45 PM
QUOTE(klc9100 @ Sep 29 2007, 12:42 PM)


you didn't think i had turned totally skeptical overnight, did you?
One can always hope.
crystal sage
Sep 29 2007, 08:54 PM
QUOTE(klc9100 @ Sep , 02:24 AM)
i posted this in the other thread too. i don't see why someone doesn't just capture some of these geese &/or ducks that hang around greenland & iceland, put some GPS tracking devices on them & then see where to the north they are migrating to. seems simple enough to me. am i missing something?

Remember the military bases.... I don't think they'll allow any birds with tracking devices anywhere near them.... fearing espionage...They'll probably be target practice.... and dinner...
then, isn't there's this thing called protected airspace?... Are normal planes allowed to fly over and film military bases????
jaylemurph
Sep 29 2007, 09:01 PM
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Sep 29 2007, 04:54 PM)


Remember the military bases.... I don't think they'll allow any birds with tracking devices anywhere near them.... fearing espionage...They'll probably be target practice....
Ha!
Very true.
--Jaylemurph
Essan
Sep 29 2007, 10:30 PM
So that's why you don't see any pigeons at either the north or south poles!!!!!
jamesdomus
Sep 30 2007, 03:42 AM
QUOTE(crystal sage @ Sep 28 2007, 05:18 PM)


... The real 'Cold Wars'
I wonder why they need all those military bases in the North and South Poles if there is nothing to hide???
What are they guarding?????
Could this be the trump card????
Proof that there is indeed a hollow earth????
Um... they need all their bases to fight over the black gold, Texas tea, all those other metaphors for OIL! Everybody's running for the poles because that's where the largest yet untapped oil reserves are (other than Khazakstan where NOBODY wants to go

).
How exactly, can Google Earth and all these other new fangled thingies that show you live satellite pics of the earth, cover up the images? Why is that the most Photoshopped looking pictures are the ones that show a hole in the top of the planet, where the literally tens of thousands of pics that show no hole look the most natural? I've seen dozens of Agartha hole pics that look like Picasso made them and I've seen hundreds more showing no hole that look much cleaner and clearer and just better. What about those explorers who went north and didn't fall into the hole? And don't mention What's his name, the Admiral, (I forget if it's Byrd or Perry) because his "journal" has been proven fake. He wasn't in the Arctic in 1946 like the site I read claims, he was in the ANTARCTIC - he was in the Arctic a decade earlier. There are too many errors and falsehoods and flim-flam artists involved in the hollow earth thing for me to believe it.
jamesdomus
Sep 30 2007, 04:10 AM
QUOTE(weareallsuckers @ Sep 29 2007, 09:20 PM)

But since I did make mention of Admiral Byrd I'll also point out many other instances here explorers have found unusual conditions in the North Pole area. Taken from an article, I'm not sure ho valid the information on the site is, I'm sorry I didn't get to check it right out but I did find it interesting information.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowland...3/under012.htmlObservations by north polar explorers indicate that there is indeed a land in the far north with a subtropical climate heated by a sister sun inside Our Hollow Earth. For example, Explorer's reports of abundant animal and bird life in the summer time in the far north indicates a homeland in the north from which they extend in the summer further south and to which they are seen to migrate in the fall.
Explorer Hays observed abundant insect life in the far north. When he was in latitude 78 degrees, 17 minutes in early July he said, "I secured a yellow-winged butterfly, and--who would believe it--a mosquito...ten moths, three spiders, two bees and two flies." (The Open Polar Sea, p. 413)
Notice the element of surprise that many explorers expressed resulting from the discovery of conditions which they weren't expecting.
Explorer Greely, in his book, THREE YEARS OF ARCTIC SERVICE, in Grinnell Land in June of 1881, reports birds of an unknown species, butterflies, bumblebees, so many flies they couldn't sleep at night, and temperatures of 47 and 50 degrees at latitude 81 degrees 49 minutes north. He also found plenty willow to make fire, and much driftwood, (Chapter 26, Vol. I)
A swedish expedition under Otto Torell, found near Trurenberg Bay in the Arctic Sea, trees floating with green buds on them and among them was found the seed of the tropical Entada Bean which measured 2.25 inches across. (Gardner, p. 253)
Explorer Sverdrup at 81 degrees north found so many hares that they named one inlet, Hare Fiord. Also nearly all expedition parties found enough game to keep their exploring parties well fed with meat. These included herds of musk-oxen and reindeer. (Gardner p. 254)
Captain Beechey saw so many birds on the west coast of Spitzbergen that sometimes a single shot killed thirty of them. (Gardner p. 254)
All explorers observed that not all animals migrate south to escape the cold Arctic winds in winter, but many instead go north. Where do they go? Greely, surprised at the tremendous amount of wildlife in a supposed frozen north wrote, "Surely this presence of birds and flowers and beasts was a greeting on nature's part to our new home."
Explorer Kane reported seeing several groups of Brent Geese, which is an American migratory bird, flying NORTHEAST in their wedge-shaped line of flight at 80 degrees 50' north at Cape Jackson, near Grinnelland in late June 1854.
Explorer Greely makes this statement of the northward migration of bears, "Lieutenant Lockwood, in May, 1882, noticed bear tracks (going NORTHEAST) on the north coast of Greenland, near Cape Benet in 83 degrees 3' N.," and commented, "...I cannot understand why the bear ever leaves the rich hunting-field of the 'North Water' for the desolate shores of the northward." (THREE YEARS, p. 366)
Greely also wrote about the Ross Gull, "...the observations of Murdoch at Point Barrow show that this bird, in thousands, passes over that point to the NORTHEAST in October, none of which were seen to return." (THREE YEARS, p. 383)
Explorer Adolf Erick Nordenskiold, leader of a Swedish expedition, recorded in THE ARCTIC VOYAGE OF 1858-1878, that on May 23, they saw north of Amsterdam Island (by Spitzbergen), "great numbers of barnacle geese...flying towards the NORTHWEST, perhaps to some land more northerly than Spitzbergen. (There is no such land on our present-day maps) The existence of such a land," wrote Nordenskiold, "is considered quite certain by the walrus-hunters, who state that at the most northerly point hitherto reached, such flocks of birds are seen steering their course in rapid flight yet farther toward the north." (Gardner, p. 160)
Daines Barrington, in his book, ON THE POSSIBILITY OF APPROACHING THE NORTH POLE, wrote that observers in Spitzbergen have always noticed in spring, just before the hatching season, the wild ducks, geese, and other birds, fly in a northerly direction. There is also a heavy fall migration to the north.
In HEARNES JOURNAL, is told of observations around Hudson's Bay by Hearne of ten species of geese, particularly the snow goose, blue goose, brent goose, horned wavy goose, lay their eggs and raise their young in some country which to Hearne was unknown. Explorers, Indians and Eskimos could never tell where these fowl bred and it was well known that they never migrated to the south. Alot of those 'descriptions' sound like they were adapted from Edgar Allen Poe's 'Narrative of A. Gordon Pym' which was written before 1851 which is the earliest year in what you've posted.
I think it's quite possible, that a few people who had a little too much to drink and fancied Poe's work a little too much probably made up those 'expeditions'.
camlax
Sep 30 2007, 04:59 AM
QUOTE(Essan @ Sep 29 2007, 06:30 PM)

So that's why you don't see any pigeons at either the north or south poles!!!!!
And here all these years I was under the impression it was because the penguins had a conspiracy to denigrate the pigeons and turn them into slaves for their masters, none other than the elephant seals. Decedents of an extragalactic race of reptilian-seals, hell bent on imprisoning humans souls to be devoured by their pet Rhesus monkeys. Damn, thwarted again! Hopefully Case and OSU will refund my tuition bills!
jaylemurph
Sep 30 2007, 03:49 PM
I am awed by your grasp of The Truth and your courage to say these things to the public, camlax.
--Jaylemurph
camlax
Oct 1 2007, 04:06 AM
QUOTE(jaylemurph @ Sep 30 2007, 11:49 AM)

I am awed by your grasp of The Truth and your courage to say these things to the public, camlax.
--Jaylemurph
Frozenthought
Oct 1 2007, 09:18 AM
Just came across this today, seemed fitting...
Greetings from the foundation of your inner earth societies, I am Adama of Telos.
I have come to speak on behalf of the civilizations of inner earth and in service to humanity. There is a message of hope contained within this transmission and I wish to offer solace for those who are enduring challenging times.
Presently you are engaged in releasing the final outworkings of many miscreated and collective thought forms coupled with grieving over many departed souls choosing to leave the earth at this tumultuous time. It is in this way that you are holding extraordinary amounts of light as you ground the potential for new earth through your cellular forms. We understand the amount of physical, mental and emotional challenge endured during this time of realignment and would like to offer you insight and hope for this especially difficult time.
With the equinotical energy approaching you are rapidly completing the final rebalancing phase of your cosmic journey into oneness, which officially beings on the first of your new year. The equinox and unto the entrance of your Harvest moon you will be realigning with your omnipresent nature. This restructuring period can be intense especially on the physical body due to the high voltages of electromagnetic frequencies pervading your biological systems and the earth.
We wish to reassure you that though this period is particularly challenging, that this realignment phase is near completion.
As a result this rewiring, we anticipate that many of you will be reaching states of clarity and comprehension never previously experienced in your lifetimes upon earth. The capability of your genetic wiring is encoded with encrypted triggers akin to a trip switch that detonates upon arrival at varying levels of conscious connectivity. Those who have genetically altered their DNA due to the thorough release and detachment from karmic/miscreated thought forms and experiences will be in a position to leave behind the struggle of duality to enter more solidly into the state of Oneness.
There are many of you reading this who are preparing to embark upon very new journeys in your physical form. Some of you will be experiencing true health for the first time in your human forms. Some of you will be extending your network of association to include new sectors of society to enhance community and production of technology upon earth. Some will be entertaining ideas of self-employment and new ventures to include deeply embedded ideas for new earth societies and networking platforms.
The results of your life changes will vary, but these changes will begin to institute and implement your life missions based on service to humanity and the general longing for community and oneness felt by so many at this time. The scales have tipped in your favor, and now the collective consciousness must bargain with fate. The new holistic approach to living and loving will introduce new ideas and radical life assessment by many who are willing and prepared to journey into a more rewarding life, one of shared moral value and global upliftment.
The energy of the equinox brings balance and renewed vigor for a better way. The balance felt within will undoubtedly be the balance that is projected onto the earth and environment and as such you who recognize this as truth will be offering humanity the gift of shared passion for a new way.
The ramifications of this are far reaching, for those with the courage to embark upon new journeys of the soul will feel rewarded for this decision. The rewards come from freedom and expansion outside of the limited parameters of 3d existence and into a new realm of development and evolution. Technology is one venture that will rapidly alter life on the surface of earth and we Telosians have much to offer in this regard.
At present, many of you are witnessing sudden revelations and awakenings to your ancient heritages and embedded within this knowledge of your true self is the blueprint of your contribution to the planet. The blueprint was specifically designed among a network of of advocates prepared to take earth to the next level of sociological and technological advancement.
The inner earth network is one that is comprised of many advanced technologies and those of you who have incarnated upon this plane with ancient genetics will undoubtedly feel the pull of this aspect of civilian progression. Already, there are new devices in particle technology (???) being studied that will greatly enhance your living conditions. Your ability to connect to your ancient heritages will benefit you greatly here as new ideas are ascertained and implemented based on your multidimensional capabilities.
This is partly how the new earth will come to realize itself, through the access and implementation of your multidimensional awareness. Each of you have within a specialized area of expertise to contribute to a developing civilization. Each of your contributions then are necessary for the whole of humanity and evolutionary climb into higher states of awareness and ultimately, connectivity.
Though this will happen over time, the beginning of this revolution for advancement is now, and begins with those of you who consciously chose to awaken to your divine gifts and abilities. The results of such a paramount effort will be momentous and in the creative endeavors of the soul, each of you will come to find the resting place within, the center point for being and the essence of ascended living.
Ascended living is a step by step culmination of those with the awareness of a greater reality and the wisdom of micro/macro cosmic interplay. As you begin to disconnect from the outworn paradigm and step more fully into ascended living you will come to realize balance in a complete way. To be the example for those who need guidance is merely the ability to focus on the internal desires within you, ground and institute those desires into a workable platform for participation in the upward spiral of evolution.
The results of your individual and soulular projects will be the magnet for attraction of like-minds and shared passion. The creations of your soul are those that incorporate a zest (passion) for life, inter-dimensional awareness and aptitude, and consideration for the whole. These signature traits set your soulular intentions apart from the old paradigm relations. As well, the creations of soulular intent often lead to great abundance and ease due to the high level and magnitude of frequency. Though your intentions have macrocosmic ramifications and benefit, they also benefit you, the microcosmic, with grace, synchronicity and attraction of soul mates for the continued development of your cause...as above, so below.
Brothers and sisters of upper earth, we are delighted at your achievements. Your motivation and continual drive to create heaven on earth has had far-reaching effects and the results of so much effort will astound you as they begin to take form in the physical dimensions of earth. A new cycle in history approaches and the silent revolution is in full force to create the most beneficial co-creative endeavors of the collective, for the people and by the people.
As the equinox brings you the gift of balance, notice how rapidly your intentions manifest in this space of detachment. Your creations of inspiration will lay the groundwork for future generations to come, generations with much to offer and great wisdom to share.
I AM Adama of Telos and together we will lift the great mother to her proper destination. On behalf of the entire civilization of Telosians, we bid you farewell and great tidings on your cosmic journeys into oneness.
Emma_Acid
Oct 1 2007, 11:07 AM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 10:18 AM)

Just came across this today, seemed fitting...
Greetings from the foundation of your inner earth societies, I am Adama of Telos.
I have come to speak on behalf of the civilizations of inner earth and in service to humanity. There is a message of hope contained within this transmission and I wish to offer solace for those who are enduring challenging times.
Presently you are engaged in releasing the final outworkings of many miscreated and collective thought forms coupled with grieving over many departed souls choosing to leave the earth at this tumultuous time. It is in this way that you are holding extraordinary amounts of light as you ground the potential for new earth through your cellular forms. We understand the amount of physical, mental and emotional challenge endured during this time of realignment and would like to offer you insight and hope for this especially difficult time.
With the equinotical energy approaching you are rapidly completing the final rebalancing phase of your cosmic journey into oneness, which officially beings on the first of your new year. The equinox and unto the entrance of your Harvest moon you will be realigning with your omnipresent nature. This restructuring period can be intense especially on the physical body due to the high voltages of electromagnetic frequencies pervading your biological systems and the earth.
We wish to reassure you that though this period is particularly challenging, that this realignment phase is near completion.
As a result this rewiring, we anticipate that many of you will be reaching states of clarity and comprehension never previously experienced in your lifetimes upon earth. The capability of your genetic wiring is encoded with encrypted triggers akin to a trip switch that detonates upon arrival at varying levels of conscious connectivity. Those who have genetically altered their DNA due to the thorough release and detachment from karmic/miscreated thought forms and experiences will be in a position to leave behind the struggle of duality to enter more solidly into the state of Oneness.
There are many of you reading this who are preparing to embark upon very new journeys in your physical form. Some of you will be experiencing true health for the first time in your human forms. Some of you will be extending your network of association to include new sectors of society to enhance community and production of technology upon earth. Some will be entertaining ideas of self-employment and new ventures to include deeply embedded ideas for new earth societies and networking platforms.
The results of your life changes will vary, but these changes will begin to institute and implement your life missions based on service to humanity and the general longing for community and oneness felt by so many at this time. The scales have tipped in your favor, and now the collective consciousness must bargain with fate. The new holistic approach to living and loving will introduce new ideas and radical life assessment by many who are willing and prepared to journey into a more rewarding life, one of shared moral value and global upliftment.
The energy of the equinox brings balance and renewed vigor for a better way. The balance felt within will undoubtedly be the balance that is projected onto the earth and environment and as such you who recognize this as truth will be offering humanity the gift of shared passion for a new way.
The ramifications of this are far reaching, for those with the courage to embark upon new journeys of the soul will feel rewarded for this decision. The rewards come from freedom and expansion outside of the limited parameters of 3d existence and into a new realm of development and evolution. Technology is one venture that will rapidly alter life on the surface of earth and we Telosians have much to offer in this regard.
At present, many of you are witnessing sudden revelations and awakenings to your ancient heritages and embedded within this knowledge of your true self is the blueprint of your contribution to the planet. The blueprint was specifically designed among a network of of advocates prepared to take earth to the next level of sociological and technological advancement.
The inner earth network is one that is comprised of many advanced technologies and those of you who have incarnated upon this plane with ancient genetics will undoubtedly feel the pull of this aspect of civilian progression. Already, there are new devices in particle technology (???) being studied that will greatly enhance your living conditions. Your ability to connect to your ancient heritages will benefit you greatly here as new ideas are ascertained and implemented based on your multidimensional capabilities.
This is partly how the new earth will come to realize itself, through the access and implementation of your multidimensional awareness. Each of you have within a specialized area of expertise to contribute to a developing civilization. Each of your contributions then are necessary for the whole of humanity and evolutionary climb into higher states of awareness and ultimately, connectivity.
Though this will happen over time, the beginning of this revolution for advancement is now, and begins with those of you who consciously chose to awaken to your divine gifts and abilities. The results of such a paramount effort will be momentous and in the creative endeavors of the soul, each of you will come to find the resting place within, the center point for being and the essence of ascended living.
Ascended living is a step by step culmination of those with the awareness of a greater reality and the wisdom of micro/macro cosmic interplay. As you begin to disconnect from the outworn paradigm and step more fully into ascended living you will come to realize balance in a complete way. To be the example for those who need guidance is merely the ability to focus on the internal desires within you, ground and institute those desires into a workable platform for participation in the upward spiral of evolution.
The results of your individual and soulular projects will be the magnet for attraction of like-minds and shared passion. The creations of your soul are those that incorporate a zest (passion) for life, inter-dimensional awareness and aptitude, and consideration for the whole. These signature traits set your soulular intentions apart from the old paradigm relations. As well, the creations of soulular intent often lead to great abundance and ease due to the high level and magnitude of frequency. Though your intentions have macrocosmic ramifications and benefit, they also benefit you, the microcosmic, with grace, synchronicity and attraction of soul mates for the continued development of your cause...as above, so below.
Brothers and sisters of upper earth, we are delighted at your achievements. Your motivation and continual drive to create heaven on earth has had far-reaching effects and the results of so much effort will astound you as they begin to take form in the physical dimensions of earth. A new cycle in history approaches and the silent revolution is in full force to create the most beneficial co-creative endeavors of the collective, for the people and by the people.
As the equinox brings you the gift of balance, notice how rapidly your intentions manifest in this space of detachment. Your creations of inspiration will lay the groundwork for future generations to come, generations with much to offer and great wisdom to share.
I AM Adama of Telos and together we will lift the great mother to her proper destination. On behalf of the entire civilization of Telosians, we bid you farewell and great tidings on your cosmic journeys into oneness.
You "just came across it"? Anything to add to that or are we just supposed to take your word for it and accept this as proof of a hollow earth?
Frozenthought
Oct 1 2007, 11:15 AM
QUOTE(Emma_Acid_88 @ Oct 1 2007, 11:07 AM)

You "just came across it"? Anything to add to that or are we just supposed to take your word for it and accept this as proof of a hollow earth?
I never said I believed it, I think it is very thought provoking, You don't have to take my word on it and I never said it was proof of Hollow Earth.
And yes, I just came across it?
AmazingAtheist
Oct 1 2007, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 09:18 AM)

Just came across this today, seemed fitting...
Greetings from the foundation of your inner earth societies, I am Adama of Telos.
I have come to speak on behalf of the civilizations of inner earth and in service to humanity. There is a message of hope contained within this transmission and I wish to offer solace for those who are enduring challenging times.
Presently you are engaged in releasing the final outworkings of many miscreated and collective thought forms coupled with grieving over many departed souls choosing to leave the earth at this tumultuous time. It is in this way that you are holding extraordinary amounts of light as you ground the potential for new earth through your cellular forms. We understand the amount of physical, mental and emotional challenge endured during this time of realignment and would like to offer you insight and hope for this especially difficult time.
With the equinotical energy approaching you are rapidly completing the final rebalancing phase of your cosmic journey into oneness, which officially beings on the first of your new year. The equinox and unto the entrance of your Harvest moon you will be realigning with your omnipresent nature. This restructuring period can be intense especially on the physical body due to the high voltages of electromagnetic frequencies pervading your biological systems and the earth.
We wish to reassure you that though this period is particularly challenging, that this realignment phase is near completion.
As a result this rewiring, we anticipate that many of you will be reaching states of clarity and comprehension never previously experienced in your lifetimes upon earth. The capability of your genetic wiring is encoded with encrypted triggers akin to a trip switch that detonates upon arrival at varying levels of conscious connectivity. Those who have genetically altered their DNA due to the thorough release and detachment from karmic/miscreated thought forms and experiences will be in a position to leave behind the struggle of duality to enter more solidly into the state of Oneness.
There are many of you reading this who are preparing to embark upon very new journeys in your physical form. Some of you will be experiencing true health for the first time in your human forms. Some of you will be extending your network of association to include new sectors of society to enhance community and production of technology upon earth. Some will be entertaining ideas of self-employment and new ventures to include deeply embedded ideas for new earth societies and networking platforms.
The results of your life changes will vary, but these changes will begin to institute and implement your life missions based on service to humanity and the general longing for community and oneness felt by so many at this time. The scales have tipped in your favor, and now the collective consciousness must bargain with fate. The new holistic approach to living and loving will introduce new ideas and radical life assessment by many who are willing and prepared to journey into a more rewarding life, one of shared moral value and global upliftment.
The energy of the equinox brings balance and renewed vigor for a better way. The balance felt within will undoubtedly be the balance that is projected onto the earth and environment and as such you who recognize this as truth will be offering humanity the gift of shared passion for a new way.
The ramifications of this are far reaching, for those with the courage to embark upon new journeys of the soul will feel rewarded for this decision. The rewards come from freedom and expansion outside of the limited parameters of 3d existence and into a new realm of development and evolution. Technology is one venture that will rapidly alter life on the surface of earth and we Telosians have much to offer in this regard.
At present, many of you are witnessing sudden revelations and awakenings to your ancient heritages and embedded within this knowledge of your true self is the blueprint of your contribution to the planet. The blueprint was specifically designed among a network of of advocates prepared to take earth to the next level of sociological and technological advancement.
The inner earth network is one that is comprised of many advanced technologies and those of you who have incarnated upon this plane with ancient genetics will undoubtedly feel the pull of this aspect of civilian progression. Already, there are new devices in particle technology (???) being studied that will greatly enhance your living conditions. Your ability to connect to your ancient heritages will benefit you greatly here as new ideas are ascertained and implemented based on your multidimensional capabilities.
This is partly how the new earth will come to realize itself, through the access and implementation of your multidimensional awareness. Each of you have within a specialized area of expertise to contribute to a developing civilization. Each of your contributions then are necessary for the whole of humanity and evolutionary climb into higher states of awareness and ultimately, connectivity.
Though this will happen over time, the beginning of this revolution for advancement is now, and begins with those of you who consciously chose to awaken to your divine gifts and abilities. The results of such a paramount effort will be momentous and in the creative endeavors of the soul, each of you will come to find the resting place within, the center point for being and the essence of ascended living.
Ascended living is a step by step culmination of those with the awareness of a greater reality and the wisdom of micro/macro cosmic interplay. As you begin to disconnect from the outworn paradigm and step more fully into ascended living you will come to realize balance in a complete way. To be the example for those who need guidance is merely the ability to focus on the internal desires within you, ground and institute those desires into a workable platform for participation in the upward spiral of evolution.
The results of your individual and soulular projects will be the magnet for attraction of like-minds and shared passion. The creations of your soul are those that incorporate a zest (passion) for life, inter-dimensional awareness and aptitude, and consideration for the whole. These signature traits set your soulular intentions apart from the old paradigm relations. As well, the creations of soulular intent often lead to great abundance and ease due to the high level and magnitude of frequency. Though your intentions have macrocosmic ramifications and benefit, they also benefit you, the microcosmic, with grace, synchronicity and attraction of soul mates for the continued development of your cause...as above, so below.
Brothers and sisters of upper earth, we are delighted at your achievements. Your motivation and continual drive to create heaven on earth has had far-reaching effects and the results of so much effort will astound you as they begin to take form in the physical dimensions of earth. A new cycle in history approaches and the silent revolution is in full force to create the most beneficial co-creative endeavors of the collective, for the people and by the people.
As the equinox brings you the gift of balance, notice how rapidly your intentions manifest in this space of detachment. Your creations of inspiration will lay the groundwork for future generations to come, generations with much to offer and great wisdom to share.
I AM Adama of Telos and together we will lift the great mother to her proper destination. On behalf of the entire civilization of Telosians, we bid you farewell and great tidings on your cosmic journeys into oneness.
No one can seriously believe that - Right? :l
Emma_Acid
Oct 1 2007, 12:03 PM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 12:15 PM)

I never said I believed it, I think it is very thought provoking, You don't have to take my word on it and I never said it was proof of Hollow Earth.
And yes, I just came across it?
But if its not based on any sort of reality, what is the point? You can't just post something (that for all anyone knows you wrote yourself) and say its a valid contribution to the argument. If its not based in any sort of reality, all it is is a waste of bandwidth.
The Puzzler
Oct 1 2007, 01:21 PM
Frozen thought: Don't you know you are not allowed to post anything without that much needed PROOF! How dare you post such trash with no backup evidence that it is factual!!!! Those evidence junkies will not have it!! (Don't let it happen again)
Frozenthought
Oct 1 2007, 01:25 PM
My inner voice tells me it's true, the Earth is hollow, really I started to believe when researching Tibet and their views on inner-dimentional cities inside the Hollow Earth where Enlightened Humans live. then I found out about Admiral Bird and his secret diary, All I know now is It turns out I know nothing, we have all been told exactly what the powers that be wanted us to believe, I know know ET's are really here, I have filmed them myself, I know we shot down the craft in Roswell and have been reverse Eng. the Technology ever since, I know the pyramids are 10,500 years old, I know the US government attacked it's own people (911) I know the US government has working Anti- Gravity, All of those things I do now hold as truth, well 5 years ago I would have thought somebody holding these beliefs was crazy, Now I know I have no clue to what the real picture is because we have all been lied to, so all things are then possible.
Is the Earth Hollow, Possibly?
The Puzzler
Oct 1 2007, 01:30 PM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 11:25 PM)

My inner voice tells me it's true, the Earth is hollow, really I started to believe when researching Tibet and their views on inner-dimentional cities inside the Hollow Earth where Enlightened Humans live. then I found out about Admiral Bird and his secret diary, All I know now is It turns out I know nothing, we have all been told exactly what the powers that be wanted us to believe, I know know ET's are really here, I have filmed them myself, I know we shot down the craft in Roswell and have been reverse Eng. the Technology ever since, I know the pyramids are 10,500 years old, I know the US government attacked it's own people (911) I know the US government has working Anti- Gravity, All of those things I do now hold as truth, well 5 years ago I would have thought somebody holding these beliefs was crazy, Now I know I have no clue to what the real picture is because we have all been lied to, so all things are then possible.
That's how I felt at finding out many conspiricies were not conspiracies at all but real facts hence my name
we are all suckers
AmazingAtheist
Oct 1 2007, 01:36 PM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 01:25 PM)

My inner voice tells me it's true, the Earth is hollow, really I started to believe when researching Tibet and their views on inner-dimentional cities inside the Hollow Earth where Enlightened Humans live. then I found out about Admiral Bird and his secret diary, All I know now is It turns out I know nothing, we have all been told exactly what the powers that be wanted us to believe, I know know ET's are really here, I have filmed them myself, I know we shot down the craft in Roswell and have been reverse Eng. the Technology ever since, I know the pyramids are 10,500 years old, I know the US government attacked it's own people (911) I know the US government has working Anti- Gravity, All of those things I do now hold as truth, well 5 years ago I would have thought somebody holding these beliefs was crazy, Now I know I have no clue to what the real picture is because we have all been lied to, so all things are then possible.
Is the Earth Hollow, Possibly?
You filmed them have you?

I'd like to see some at least a little more than your word on that one ..
You use the term "I know nothing"
Then later you use "I know" four times in full confidence ..
Frozenthought
Oct 1 2007, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(Complex @ Oct 1 2007, 01:36 PM)

You filmed them have you?

I'd like to see some at least a little more than your word on that one ..
You use the term "I know nothing"
Then later you use "I know" four times in full confidence ..
Yes when I found out these things were true, I realized I knew nothing but I am getting smarter, And yes I say all of those things in full confidence.
And Yes, I have filmed them, And if you need more than my word (Trust issues? :-) Just joking, My name is Michael Lee Hill, My UFO footage has been featured on Fox News Twice, here are links to those Fox News segments...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2S9f97bkSkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB8T94nCYY4 Also CBS news, Coast to Coast, Rense.com, hbccufo.org and in the feature films UFO's Unplugged with Dan Aykroyd, and David Sereda's latest film From Here to Andromeda. <--- I co-produced & did the "Andromeda" soundtrack as well.
My Footage was just talked about in this recent story...
http://www.freetimes.com/stories/15/21/thats-no-moon I have set up a Youtube channel to share the video's of UFO's I have taken over Lake erie, Check out my latest footage captured on 09-18-2007!!! The best Yet.
http://www.youtube.com/frozenhillI can't talk about it yet but I will also be on a upcoming Major Cable Channel UFO show in the near future, What I can tell you is the producers of this show know whatever I am filming over Lake Erie, they are showing up worldwide right now, The recent Orbs/UFO's over London story is another case, The Pheonix lights are the same phenomenon as well.
Perhaps these UFO's are coming from inside our own planet? :-)
Time will tell and it won't be long I believe.
AmazingAtheist
Oct 1 2007, 02:20 PM
Ok thanks for the links .
jaylemurph
Oct 1 2007, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 05:18 AM)

Just came across this today, seemed fitting...
Greetings from the foundation of your inner earth societies, I am Adama of Telos.
I have come to speak on behalf of the civilizations of inner earth and in service to humanity. There is a message of hope contained within this transmission and I wish to offer solace for those who are enduring challenging times...
Sorry, but I don't have it in me to quote this whole thing again. I'd feel guilty by increasing its chances to be found by another extremely credible person through Google.
Frozenthought -- if you didn't write this, could you maybe give us a link back to who did? If you wrote it, we should know, if you didn't, the real author (even Adama of Telos*) deserves credit. And I'd like to see it in its original site.
QUOTE
My inner voice tells me it's true, the Earth is hollow, really I started to believe when researching Tibet and their views on inner-dimentional cities inside the Hollow Earth where Enlightened humans live. then I found out about Admiral Bird and his secret diary, All I know now is It turns out I know nothing, we have all been told exactly what the powers that be wanted us to believe, I know know ET's are really here, I have filmed them myself, I know we shot down the craft in Roswell and have been reverse Eng. the Technology ever since, I know the pyramids are 10,500 years old, I know the US government attacked it's own people (911) I know the US government has working Anti- Gravity, All of those things I do now hold as truth, well 5 years ago I would have thought somebody holding these beliefs was crazy, Now I know I have no clue to what the real picture is because we have all been lied to, so all things are then possible.
You may want to review your use of the word "know." I think the word you're looking for is "believe". For you to know something, you'd have to have been vouchsafed undisputed information on very controversial topics that is unavailable to, well, virtually everyone else on Earth. Can you see why it looks... suspicious to someone not so given to fancy?
You keep saying "I know nothing". It sort of seems like the only thing your skepticism of orthodoxy doesn't reach is your own knowledge. If you know nothing, how can you know those things?
--Jaylemurph
*There seems to be a fascinating backstory here of Adama from Battlestar Galactica meeting the Cybermen from Doctor Who, being taken to their ice tombs on Telos and then having a spiritual awakening and going to live in the Hollow Earth...
The Skeptic Eric Raven
Oct 1 2007, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(weareallsuckers @ Oct 1 2007, 08:21 AM)

Frozen thought: Don't you know you are not allowed to post anything without that much needed PROOF!
How dare you post such trash with no backup evidence that it is factual!!!! Those evidence junkies will not have it!! (Don't let it happen again)

Exactly. Thanks for doing our lightwork.
louie
Oct 1 2007, 04:36 PM
The idea of people living in the inner earth is highly unlilkey but ok ill play along. but those pictures you have to be kidding,
Harte
Oct 1 2007, 04:44 PM
QUOTE(Frozenthought @ Oct 1 2007, 08:25 AM)

My inner voice tells me it's true, the Earth is hollow, really I started to believe when researching Tibet and their views on inner-dimentional cities inside the Hollow Earth where Enlightened Humans live. then I found out about Admiral Bird and his secret diary...
FT,
Sorry, but
my inner voice tells me to tell
your inner voice the following:
"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."
Could you please relay that message to your inner voice?
Harte
camlax
Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM
QUOTE(Harte @ Oct 1 2007, 12:44 PM)

FT,
Sorry, but my inner voice tells me to tell your inner voice the following:
"It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."
Could you please relay that message to your inner voice?
Harte
Thats sig worthy if you do not mind harte!
SoulFire
Oct 2 2007, 01:43 AM
QUOTE(camlax @ Oct 1 2007, 09:17 PM)

Thats sig worthy if you do not mind harte!
man - you guys are hilarious

(NOT)
Jackssa
Oct 2 2007, 05:58 AM
i think its crap too =D
. Alexandros .
Oct 2 2007, 06:29 AM
THESE PHOTOES SHOWN HERE BY THE THREAD POSTER ARE FAKE AND HOAXES, THIS IS NOT WHAT I BELIEVE IN. HE HAS NOT READ MUCH ABOUT THIS THESE PHOTOES ARE FAKE. IF U WANT REAL PHOTOS THOUGH ABOUT THIS, PM ME.
AmazingAtheist
Oct 2 2007, 06:34 AM
Who cares ..
Just about everyone here thinks it's all crap .
The Sandman
Oct 2 2007, 06:51 AM
QUOTE(. Alexandros . @ Oct 2 2007, 10:29 AM)

THESE PHOTOES SHOWN HERE BY THE THREAD POSTER ARE FAKE AND HOAXES, THIS IS NOT WHAT I BELIEVE IN. HE HAS NOT READ MUCH ABOUT THIS THESE PHOTOES ARE FAKE. IF U WANT REAL PHOTOS THOUGH ABOUT THIS, PM ME.
Oh yeah?? We have been asking you Alexandros/Adama to submit some links, of proof to share with us his 'vast knowledge' on hollow earth, but till now he has given zilch...nothing!
A serious doubt...was the whole stuff quoted by Frozen thought ..starting...greetings..i am Adama of Telos....be actually Alexandros/Adama???
See Alexandros and Adama hare the same birth day and are from the same country and the quote under adamas avatar is connected to alexander the great...
and now my doubt....the stuff said by Adama of Telos....can it be written by Alexandros/Adama?? why not, any one can post anything on the net and pass it for true!!!
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